Superb! 😂 And don't forget all those actors in Shakespeare's day - they were trans. That's why William wrote all the plays in the first place, they're FOR trans people, look at all the cross dressing that went on. And it's why William got an earring. William was too. He was brave and beautiful.
All the men were back then, look at all the velvet and fancy clothes. It's only recently anything cis happened at all. Trans is the true cis. Ummm...
How come none of these celebrities who were Egyptian queens in past lives ever said they were transqueens? Was past-life Shirley McLaine transphobic? Hmm?
Oh, there we go. I am now transreincarnated. I identify as someone who was transgender in a past life, even though I am cisgender today, therefore I know the sufferings of dysphoria and need no reeducation, thanks very much.
It seems there's absolutely no historically oppressed group or individual whose sufferings the tras won't hijack for their own ends !! They plumb new depths every single day. Sheer propaganda which will fool no one who still believes in Truth .
The nonsense Wegener (Lilli Elbe) claims he was told suggests either he totally misunderstood, fantasised it, or was accurately reporting that they told him a load of nonsense - eg that they could implant a uterus that would allow him to get pregnant & birth a child.
Hischfield seems to have been a brave man but severely wrong about the science & human bodies, and also both homophobic & unthinkingly misogynistic.
Was there not also a surgeon there who was a literal Nazi & went on to do experiments in concentration camps?
Yeah and some of those Nazi doctors went on to work for the drug company which made THALIDOMIDE and continued to produce and sell it for years after the damage to embryos was exposed !!
A whole lot of Nazi doctors ended up in Chile and Argentina where they were willing to do as many "trans" ops as were asked for, charging a lot of US$ for the privelege. American men were the target audience and the way in was by word of mouth...Scary!
Unfortunately this revisionism will take off and become factual history for a lot of people because there's no mainstream challenge to it. The BBC (between its .co.uk & .com sites) is the most-read online news outlet in the world, and the most-trusted UK news outlet, and it's too scared to talk about gender identity ideology. There was one excellent podcast by Stephen Nolan and even then he was warned not to do it.
I hope Stephen and David are still watching this all unfold (I imagine they are). There’s so much yet to investigate. And a lot of the work’s already been done for them…
The BBC lost all credibilty for me after the Jimmy Saville scandal and it's reporting nowadays is highly censored by the 'Trusted News Initiative'. The BBC is the last place to go for impatial information on anything. I'm just glad Stephen Nolan had the courage and integrity to do the right thing.
How dispicable. To co-opt the holocoust for their ends now too? There really is no depth too low to sink to is there? And is that article with the space age picture satire or real? It can be hard to tell... But I do not foresee a beautiful future with flying cars just becuase TRAs get their way. I see one where women become mere handmaidens, have few rights and the human race suffers from losing the active contribution of 50% of it's population where men taken female places. Given that increased diversity usually improves innovation, replacing actual women with men in dresses involved in ideological group-think would ensure the flying car never made it off the ground.
It was, I think just meant to be like: Without trans oppression the beautiful future we were all promised would already be here, so where's my jetpack?
Indeed if only men were allowed to wear dresses and claim womens spaces sooner! If any comparison is to be made to that period of history, I think the amount of propoganda the movement generates based on lies, misinformation and utter fantasy to try and hoodwink people, is more akin to the Nazi propaganda machine. Same tactics.
I laughed out loud at that. No doubt, that's what Tra & Co. would have us believe.
Sillyness aside, It would be interesting to see what the 6 million Jewish people who were systematically murdered might have done for the world, had they not been robbed of the opportunity.
Their piggybacking on the Holocaust is so shameless and despicable...the lows they go to are always astonishing if not surprising. You're absolutely right when you said they are revising history in a desperate attempt to rope people back onto their side who may otherwise be getting disillusioned with an unraveling, dying narrative.
Hatpinwoman on twitter has a rather wonderful counter to the romanticisation of Hirschfeld's lost world of wisdom - she's been reviewing his documenting of the erotic urge to crossdress among men at the height of Edwardian patriarchy. Much queer. So rad.
Right, it's true Nazis targeted homosexuals but they were not Holocaust victims. Many were, victims of Nazi policy being imprisoned or placed in othe institutions in order to undergo conversion therapy. Holocaust studies recognise as Holocaust victims, the Aktion T4 victims, murdered in so called mercy killings in keeping with their Eugenics; Roma and if course, Jews. Russian prisoners of war were, after the Eastern Front fiasco, targeted to be murdered rather than interned. Of course, millions died as a result of Fascism but Homosexuals, Jehovah Witnesses, clergy..were not Holocaust victims but victims of war. That many Trans and LGBTQI+ now consider themselves as Holocaust victims is inaccurate.
Agree that's edging the line, too, to broaden definition of the Holocaust in that way. Homosexuals (and political prisoners and Jehovah's Witnesses, etc.) were targets and victims of Nazi atrocities. Would not say these groups were victims of war -- victims of ideology and state repression moreso, the worst of the targeting of these groups took place before the war began in Europe.
It does seem their MO to broaden the definition of something to add themselves in. I was very supportive of men who wanted to live as women tbh. I felt very protective of them in my job. It's hard being a woman. And they explained it, as I remember it, I want to live as a woman because I feel like I am one, though I'm a man.
Not that I actually am one and want all your rights. I oddly feel like I've been stabbed in the back and my good nature has been betrayed.
The transing of historical characters is one of my pet peeves. They apply their cult thinking to situations where women had to pretend to be male in order to achieve their goals and in a hilarious twist tell everyone else not to apply modern ways of thinking to the past. The fact they are once again forcing themselves into narratives where they do not belong is wholly offensive. They won't rest till everyone is trans and everyday is trans visibility day. I hate it here.
"Nazi homophobia" was actually just Weimar homophobia in jackboots. Hitler had no problem with Röhm's homosexuality until Röhm became a problem. Homosexuals were one class of criminal convict when the Nazis first started sending "undesirables" to Dachau. This is not to minimize the acute suffering of homosexuals in the camp system, of course. One problem in historiography is that we don't have many primary sources to read. Unfortunately, the governments of Europe went right back to criminalizing homosexuality right after the war, which meant that a depressing number of them were released from camps only to be arrested and imprisoned again. History is always worse than we think.
The silencing and threats hurled by transactivists at people who question gender identity ideology, how do they not see that their own actions would have fit in well with Nazi tyranny. Comparing gender critical beliefs to anti-Semitism (as Nancy Kelley has done) is obvious desperation. Not to mention disgusting to label women as something historically abhorrent for fighting for their rights.
LGBTQIA+ history lessons this month starting with section 28 🎉
I’m fed up and not staying quiet on my understanding that this is an LGB achievement? Going to be a month of this in work. Can we report it to EHRC or something?
If it hadn't been for Julius Caesar's destruction of the Library of Alexandria, trans people wouldn't have been written out of history.
All those advances in medicine and surgery, gone forever. It was a tragedy.
Actual lol
Superb! 😂 And don't forget all those actors in Shakespeare's day - they were trans. That's why William wrote all the plays in the first place, they're FOR trans people, look at all the cross dressing that went on. And it's why William got an earring. William was too. He was brave and beautiful.
All the men were back then, look at all the velvet and fancy clothes. It's only recently anything cis happened at all. Trans is the true cis. Ummm...
?!? It's so confusing but brave and beautiful
How come none of these celebrities who were Egyptian queens in past lives ever said they were transqueens? Was past-life Shirley McLaine transphobic? Hmm?
Educate yourself! A female pharaoh is a transman. Obviously.
There's a great line in a Michael Franti song about how we were all royalty, no serfs.
😂
Oh, there we go. I am now transreincarnated. I identify as someone who was transgender in a past life, even though I am cisgender today, therefore I know the sufferings of dysphoria and need no reeducation, thanks very much.
😂
Another day, another seam to be mined in the cause of queer theory. Is nothing safe from their harm? No depths they won't plumb? Just shameful.
They're shameless, truly.
I even stumbled across a tweet a while back celebrating Alan Turing as a trans pioneer for being on cross sex hormones.
Oh lordie. Out of the same playbook as “Iran is so progressive because it gives out sex change operations” [or you can be executed: you have agency!]
The past was alterable.
The past never had been altered. Oceania was at war with Eastasia. Oceania had always been at war with Eastasia.
It seems there's absolutely no historically oppressed group or individual whose sufferings the tras won't hijack for their own ends !! They plumb new depths every single day. Sheer propaganda which will fool no one who still believes in Truth .
The nonsense Wegener (Lilli Elbe) claims he was told suggests either he totally misunderstood, fantasised it, or was accurately reporting that they told him a load of nonsense - eg that they could implant a uterus that would allow him to get pregnant & birth a child.
Hischfield seems to have been a brave man but severely wrong about the science & human bodies, and also both homophobic & unthinkingly misogynistic.
Was there not also a surgeon there who was a literal Nazi & went on to do experiments in concentration camps?
Yeah, there was. Malcolm Clark did a thread: https://twitter.com/TwisterFilm/status/1460054825656205313
Ah, thank you! I’d read it but couldn’t remember where. Must use the bookmark function!
Yeah and some of those Nazi doctors went on to work for the drug company which made THALIDOMIDE and continued to produce and sell it for years after the damage to embryos was exposed !!
A whole lot of Nazi doctors ended up in Chile and Argentina where they were willing to do as many "trans" ops as were asked for, charging a lot of US$ for the privelege. American men were the target audience and the way in was by word of mouth...Scary!
Unfortunately this revisionism will take off and become factual history for a lot of people because there's no mainstream challenge to it. The BBC (between its .co.uk & .com sites) is the most-read online news outlet in the world, and the most-trusted UK news outlet, and it's too scared to talk about gender identity ideology. There was one excellent podcast by Stephen Nolan and even then he was warned not to do it.
I hope Stephen and David are still watching this all unfold (I imagine they are). There’s so much yet to investigate. And a lot of the work’s already been done for them…
The BBC lost all credibilty for me after the Jimmy Saville scandal and it's reporting nowadays is highly censored by the 'Trusted News Initiative'. The BBC is the last place to go for impatial information on anything. I'm just glad Stephen Nolan had the courage and integrity to do the right thing.
How dispicable. To co-opt the holocoust for their ends now too? There really is no depth too low to sink to is there? And is that article with the space age picture satire or real? It can be hard to tell... But I do not foresee a beautiful future with flying cars just becuase TRAs get their way. I see one where women become mere handmaidens, have few rights and the human race suffers from losing the active contribution of 50% of it's population where men taken female places. Given that increased diversity usually improves innovation, replacing actual women with men in dresses involved in ideological group-think would ensure the flying car never made it off the ground.
The image is from a humorous but sincere post on a trans reddit.
Thanks for clarifying. The way many of them talk, they do seem to have sincerely bought into the "trans people are beautiful and talented" schtick.
It was, I think just meant to be like: Without trans oppression the beautiful future we were all promised would already be here, so where's my jetpack?
Indeed if only men were allowed to wear dresses and claim womens spaces sooner! If any comparison is to be made to that period of history, I think the amount of propoganda the movement generates based on lies, misinformation and utter fantasy to try and hoodwink people, is more akin to the Nazi propaganda machine. Same tactics.
I laughed out loud at that. No doubt, that's what Tra & Co. would have us believe.
Sillyness aside, It would be interesting to see what the 6 million Jewish people who were systematically murdered might have done for the world, had they not been robbed of the opportunity.
Their piggybacking on the Holocaust is so shameless and despicable...the lows they go to are always astonishing if not surprising. You're absolutely right when you said they are revising history in a desperate attempt to rope people back onto their side who may otherwise be getting disillusioned with an unraveling, dying narrative.
Loved this piece. ❤
Hatpinwoman on twitter has a rather wonderful counter to the romanticisation of Hirschfeld's lost world of wisdom - she's been reviewing his documenting of the erotic urge to crossdress among men at the height of Edwardian patriarchy. Much queer. So rad.
Yes, totally brilliant what she's been up to (and admire her fortitude in plowing through the source material...)
Who else finds it odd that they lament the loss of research while simultaneously trying to prevent any and all research from happening today?
Odd? No. Revolutionary.
God alone knows what the results of ‘gender affirming surgery’ was like in the 1930’s. They can barely get it right today.
Right, it's true Nazis targeted homosexuals but they were not Holocaust victims. Many were, victims of Nazi policy being imprisoned or placed in othe institutions in order to undergo conversion therapy. Holocaust studies recognise as Holocaust victims, the Aktion T4 victims, murdered in so called mercy killings in keeping with their Eugenics; Roma and if course, Jews. Russian prisoners of war were, after the Eastern Front fiasco, targeted to be murdered rather than interned. Of course, millions died as a result of Fascism but Homosexuals, Jehovah Witnesses, clergy..were not Holocaust victims but victims of war. That many Trans and LGBTQI+ now consider themselves as Holocaust victims is inaccurate.
Agree that's edging the line, too, to broaden definition of the Holocaust in that way. Homosexuals (and political prisoners and Jehovah's Witnesses, etc.) were targets and victims of Nazi atrocities. Would not say these groups were victims of war -- victims of ideology and state repression moreso, the worst of the targeting of these groups took place before the war began in Europe.
It does seem their MO to broaden the definition of something to add themselves in. I was very supportive of men who wanted to live as women tbh. I felt very protective of them in my job. It's hard being a woman. And they explained it, as I remember it, I want to live as a woman because I feel like I am one, though I'm a man.
Not that I actually am one and want all your rights. I oddly feel like I've been stabbed in the back and my good nature has been betrayed.
Yes, I agree. I didn't word it very well.
Great column. Nail on the head.
The transing of historical characters is one of my pet peeves. They apply their cult thinking to situations where women had to pretend to be male in order to achieve their goals and in a hilarious twist tell everyone else not to apply modern ways of thinking to the past. The fact they are once again forcing themselves into narratives where they do not belong is wholly offensive. They won't rest till everyone is trans and everyday is trans visibility day. I hate it here.
"Nazi homophobia" was actually just Weimar homophobia in jackboots. Hitler had no problem with Röhm's homosexuality until Röhm became a problem. Homosexuals were one class of criminal convict when the Nazis first started sending "undesirables" to Dachau. This is not to minimize the acute suffering of homosexuals in the camp system, of course. One problem in historiography is that we don't have many primary sources to read. Unfortunately, the governments of Europe went right back to criminalizing homosexuality right after the war, which meant that a depressing number of them were released from camps only to be arrested and imprisoned again. History is always worse than we think.
The silencing and threats hurled by transactivists at people who question gender identity ideology, how do they not see that their own actions would have fit in well with Nazi tyranny. Comparing gender critical beliefs to anti-Semitism (as Nancy Kelley has done) is obvious desperation. Not to mention disgusting to label women as something historically abhorrent for fighting for their rights.
LGBTQIA+ history lessons this month starting with section 28 🎉
I’m fed up and not staying quiet on my understanding that this is an LGB achievement? Going to be a month of this in work. Can we report it to EHRC or something?