I keep thinking about those antifa thugs in Los Ángeles terrorizing the women protesting Wi Spa. They ripped up all of the women’s signs. They just used their male strength and their numbers and they trashed the women’s protest and silenced and terrified them. It’s just so awful.
I keep thinking about those antifa thugs in Los Ángeles terrorizing the women protesting Wi Spa. They ripped up all of the women’s signs. They just used their male strength and their numbers and they trashed the women’s protest and silenced and terrified them. It’s just so awful.
In discussions of Feminist Current it was agreed that antifa is a fascist organization. They wear black, often hiding their faces, and they incite violence and terror. I have read some stuff about their being for hire by men such as George Soros who supports 1) prostitution, 2) transgenderism, and 3) the fascist regime in Ukraine. Kind of ironic for a Jewish man to support Ukrainians who wear swastikas, but then.
Yes, I’m surprised not to see that mentioned here. Are they waiting to get hard facts about who was hurt, and by whom, and who the man is who was in the spa (I believe it’s a notoriously twisted autogynephile who also called for Antifa to be there, and was among the counter protestors himself).
I read that a woman got stabbed and was wearing a bullet-proof vest...I don’t know if that’s true, only that it was widely reported in real time (I didn’t watch the footage myself; I couldn’t stomach it). An Asian man was hit with a skateboard, a priest preaching against the insanity in the name of Jesus was smashed over the head and bleeding, a woman was surrounded, taunted and jeered at, threatened with a skateboard, and had her sunglasses stolen in a sick game of keep away (I did see photos/video footage of the latter two).
The woman surrounded by the gang of thugs and robbed said that she believes in trans rights but not that a person with a penis should be naked around women and girls in public nude, sex-segregated spaces. They yelled “go home transphobe” at her as they hassled her.
I’m assuming maybe they’re planning a longer article on this, or perhaps one on all the recent violence, in Spain, France, the USA, and other parts of the world?
There is a video posted yesterday by a woman who tried to protest. She was at the Wi spa a few years ago with her six year old daughter when a naked man came flanked by two naked women. She and her little daughter quickly left. She was so upset she couldn’t tell her husband for a day or two. https://youtu.be/pAkUwLqzp-M
The sensible and proper thing for these places that want to be "inclusive" is to be upfront about it, let people decide for themselves if they want to patronise those establishments, and also work to provide fully enclosed cubicles for those who don't want any nude males when undressing. It's extremely unfair and cowardly to allow it without any warning to women.
They also have signs, not removed, before the entrances to the sex-segregated spaces saying that *males* going inside to spy on women and girls undressing, and/or to undress themselves, will be prosecuted to the full extent of the law.
The problem is that this- allowing them in if they say at the front desk that they’re female- is prosecuting them to the full extent of the law now. It is the law to let any men in if he says he is a woman.
And the Wi Spa, likely to avoid losing business, has not put up any flyers to announce the change, or (like some other spas) started requiring clothing worn on bottom in the supposedly “sex-segregated” spaces.
So yes, Wi Spa is responsible for this, too, for lying by omission.
A room full of penised TW undressing in front of each other... I'm guessing that wouldn't feel very "validating" to them. And that's how we know that even TW don't think other TW are women.
There was a story from I think, last year where a TiM bullied his work into letting him use the Ladies and then complained to HR when the women went to another floor to use the loo because they didn't want to share with him.
A lot of these men end up with each other. One of the murders the liberals shed tears over was one "transwoman" murdering his "transwoman" friend when they argued over who was prettier. And gendertrender had on a couple who did something called Transradio (?); she was a transman and he was a transwoman, they were in a relationship, and they eventually came to accept that she was a woman and he was a man.
In the photo I saw, the signs seemed to be left there by activists, not the spa. Hand made signs. I kind of hate that the spa is probably in an impossible position, but I don’t see any way out of this without calling attention to the places where this is all happening.
I'm not very knowledgeable about US or California laws, would they have something similar to the equality act where there are exemptions to including TW in female spaces? The Spa might be legally bound to allow it or they might just be acquiescing to demands from TRAs. Be interesting to see the actual law surrounding this over there.
California law requires it in all businesses, yes. Federal law requires it in (honoring self-ID) in schools, prisons, federally-funded shelters whether homeless, rape crisis, or DV, etc., since Biden signed an executive order to this effect on January 1st, completely bypassing the judiciary to sign self-ID into law, his very first day in office.
Republican trans woman Jennifer Pritzker paid for his campaign, just like Obama’s, so he’s beholden.
Ever seen Jennifer? He's got hands like baseball mitts and shoes you could use for kayaks. I guess the plastic surgeons haven't figured out a way to "feminize" giant hands and feet.
Is he? He's from an extremely wealthy family and they don't usually join the military. But you're right that a lot of these creepy older men who think they're beautiful young women are ex-military, along with being homophobic, racist Republicans.
yes it is very bruising. it's funny because I sense some 'oh crap' coming from the usual sexist MRA freaks, who of course were not there. They've spent the last decade trying to kneecap feminism and now that it appears they have, they seem to be gulping. Because the gamergaters have gotten older and some have kids...they are seeing, some of them, the consequences of what they put out into the world.
They’ve all decided that since women “expose their genitals” to other women in that type of spa, then it’s bigoted to complain when men do it. These people are evil. They are saying a girl or a woman isn’t allowed to decide when she sees a naked man, or when a man sees her naked.
I keep thinking about those antifa thugs in Los Ángeles terrorizing the women protesting Wi Spa. They ripped up all of the women’s signs. They just used their male strength and their numbers and they trashed the women’s protest and silenced and terrified them. It’s just so awful.
It's all a tad ironic for a group calling itself anti-fascist.
The imposition of a dogma using violence and intimidation is the absolute epitome of fascism.
In discussions of Feminist Current it was agreed that antifa is a fascist organization. They wear black, often hiding their faces, and they incite violence and terror. I have read some stuff about their being for hire by men such as George Soros who supports 1) prostitution, 2) transgenderism, and 3) the fascist regime in Ukraine. Kind of ironic for a Jewish man to support Ukrainians who wear swastikas, but then.
Yes, I’m surprised not to see that mentioned here. Are they waiting to get hard facts about who was hurt, and by whom, and who the man is who was in the spa (I believe it’s a notoriously twisted autogynephile who also called for Antifa to be there, and was among the counter protestors himself).
I read that a woman got stabbed and was wearing a bullet-proof vest...I don’t know if that’s true, only that it was widely reported in real time (I didn’t watch the footage myself; I couldn’t stomach it). An Asian man was hit with a skateboard, a priest preaching against the insanity in the name of Jesus was smashed over the head and bleeding, a woman was surrounded, taunted and jeered at, threatened with a skateboard, and had her sunglasses stolen in a sick game of keep away (I did see photos/video footage of the latter two).
The woman surrounded by the gang of thugs and robbed said that she believes in trans rights but not that a person with a penis should be naked around women and girls in public nude, sex-segregated spaces. They yelled “go home transphobe” at her as they hassled her.
I’m assuming maybe they’re planning a longer article on this, or perhaps one on all the recent violence, in Spain, France, the USA, and other parts of the world?
You're absolutely right, Morrigan - there's a special on the way. It was just too long a subject to cover here.
I’m looking forward to it, JL!
I hope you’ll include some of the shameful media coverage of this event.
For example this absurdly one-sided, and frankly idiotic Washington Post article riddled with factual errors and poor data and sources:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2021/07/05/transgender-woman-los-angeles-spa/%3FoutputType%3Damp
Thanks for all the work you do. You always have uniformly excellent writing and reporting.
There is a video posted yesterday by a woman who tried to protest. She was at the Wi spa a few years ago with her six year old daughter when a naked man came flanked by two naked women. She and her little daughter quickly left. She was so upset she couldn’t tell her husband for a day or two. https://youtu.be/pAkUwLqzp-M
The sensible and proper thing for these places that want to be "inclusive" is to be upfront about it, let people decide for themselves if they want to patronise those establishments, and also work to provide fully enclosed cubicles for those who don't want any nude males when undressing. It's extremely unfair and cowardly to allow it without any warning to women.
I understand the Wi Spa now has signs all over the entrance saying “we support transwoman”. No one has ripped down those signs.
They also have signs, not removed, before the entrances to the sex-segregated spaces saying that *males* going inside to spy on women and girls undressing, and/or to undress themselves, will be prosecuted to the full extent of the law.
The problem is that this- allowing them in if they say at the front desk that they’re female- is prosecuting them to the full extent of the law now. It is the law to let any men in if he says he is a woman.
And the Wi Spa, likely to avoid losing business, has not put up any flyers to announce the change, or (like some other spas) started requiring clothing worn on bottom in the supposedly “sex-segregated” spaces.
So yes, Wi Spa is responsible for this, too, for lying by omission.
they better cause no decent women or women with children will come there anymore. They better court the tw that's all they have left.
I suspect that when women and girls stop using the female changing rooms there'll be a sudden drop in men identifying as women attending.
Where would be the fun for them?
A room full of penised TW undressing in front of each other... I'm guessing that wouldn't feel very "validating" to them. And that's how we know that even TW don't think other TW are women.
There was a story from I think, last year where a TiM bullied his work into letting him use the Ladies and then complained to HR when the women went to another floor to use the loo because they didn't want to share with him.
Reminds me of a story I read on Reddit about a transwoman who brought home what he thought was a woman turned out to be a transwoman.
Lo and behold, there *was* a genital preference after all.
A lot of these men end up with each other. One of the murders the liberals shed tears over was one "transwoman" murdering his "transwoman" friend when they argued over who was prettier. And gendertrender had on a couple who did something called Transradio (?); she was a transman and he was a transwoman, they were in a relationship, and they eventually came to accept that she was a woman and he was a man.
In the photo I saw, the signs seemed to be left there by activists, not the spa. Hand made signs. I kind of hate that the spa is probably in an impossible position, but I don’t see any way out of this without calling attention to the places where this is all happening.
I'm not very knowledgeable about US or California laws, would they have something similar to the equality act where there are exemptions to including TW in female spaces? The Spa might be legally bound to allow it or they might just be acquiescing to demands from TRAs. Be interesting to see the actual law surrounding this over there.
California law requires it in all businesses, yes. Federal law requires it in (honoring self-ID) in schools, prisons, federally-funded shelters whether homeless, rape crisis, or DV, etc., since Biden signed an executive order to this effect on January 1st, completely bypassing the judiciary to sign self-ID into law, his very first day in office.
Republican trans woman Jennifer Pritzker paid for his campaign, just like Obama’s, so he’s beholden.
Ever seen Jennifer? He's got hands like baseball mitts and shoes you could use for kayaks. I guess the plastic surgeons haven't figured out a way to "feminize" giant hands and feet.
He's ex-military too, isn't he? There's a lot of them about.
Is he? He's from an extremely wealthy family and they don't usually join the military. But you're right that a lot of these creepy older men who think they're beautiful young women are ex-military, along with being homophobic, racist Republicans.
yes it is very bruising. it's funny because I sense some 'oh crap' coming from the usual sexist MRA freaks, who of course were not there. They've spent the last decade trying to kneecap feminism and now that it appears they have, they seem to be gulping. Because the gamergaters have gotten older and some have kids...they are seeing, some of them, the consequences of what they put out into the world.
They’ve all decided that since women “expose their genitals” to other women in that type of spa, then it’s bigoted to complain when men do it. These people are evil. They are saying a girl or a woman isn’t allowed to decide when she sees a naked man, or when a man sees her naked.