Harry Miller phoned me for a chat after his experience with the police last night. He very kindly took me through the whole story. It’s quite the tale!
The funniest thing on the video for me was Lawrence Fox cutting in saying something to Harry like “let them speak” ( the lead policeman). Harry stopped talking mid flow and the male officer replied with something along lines of “ I’m not telling you now”
Not mature professional behaviour which is what I would expect
It will be a very genuinely useful training aid. I don't want to think that either the police act randomly, or that this was sanctioned by their senior officers or policy. I still do have enormous respect for some individual officers and teams who must be banging their heads at this.
But check his demeanor in the video. Calm, assertive and knowledgeable. He didn't resist because he knew he was on the right side of truth. I would love to be more educated in this but I guess the procedure would be different in Scotland.
I don't care what his politics is. This - a police force wearing a badge for a lobby group with the police name on it - is tantamount to being a secondary "secret police", intimidating persons into handing over money without due course of justice......
None of this is party politics. This is state sanctioned abuse of citizens by bypassing the proper due process of law. Where was the PACE act here?
Its been replaced by a lobby groups demands.
Someone like Harry Miller is what is needed. Bravo to him.
Neither do I. Perhaps I should have been clearer... I went for pithy instead!
I fully agree with you. State-sanctioned, lobby-empowered for sure - But also I saw individuals feeling their own power in uniform and trying stuff on with someone they shouldn't have crossed.
Sadly, it will work on others with no real grasp of the law and those who do not have the nouse or courage to answer back and stand their ground in such an impressive way.
I said last night in the pub that Harry Miller is the right wing hero the left don't have.
I have a fear of uniforms ever since I forgot my science overall and was kindly allowed to wear a spare white one the teacher had. I was called Miss accidentally by others in the class. And was asked questions as if I would know. Really weird deference and all lesson. I spun round to the growing patient queue behind me and said 'erm, it's me, why are you acting funny?'. They thought I was the teacher as if my face was suddenly a blank to them. The times I have worn other uniforms or hi vis it's very weird how people stop, walk around you, go quiet, or immediately capitulate. It's a great disguise. Holding a clip board was similar and people volunteer all sorts of information. At work I learned (or was told) to take off anything that obviously marked me out as working where I did. It happens when you wear a smart suit or coat too.
A senior (former?) police officer was talking about the child Q case and how other adults (as in their teachers) should still be advocating for the rights of any child in their care, despite police officers giving the impression they can do what they like without interruption. You still must continue to advocate.
Wow. There's just something about Harry. See what I mean -- he's born for this. The right person at the right moment with the right stuff. Bless Harry and all his policing knowledge. What would we do without him?
Cathy Larkman, ex DS in Gwent, also on the case. She's been described as having a cervix of steel. We need these ex coppers to call out this 'nonce sense.'
Yours is the first comment I've liked, having just slapped my 30 nicker on Glinner's coffee table. I loathe his support of feminism and 'gay rights', but he's one of the most outspoken on the paedophile agenda at the heart of LGBTQ, and he's willing to lay it all on the line to protect children.
I think the police force he belonged to and the police force of today are like chalk and cheese. CCs like Olivia Pinkney have a correctnick recruitment priority. Crime is going to spike, the police as a repressive political force is going to grow. This Conservative government needs to get a grip. A rolling coup is taking place.
The police wrongly accused me of "common assault" when it was my trans then H who attacked ME. This is not a "free speech" case but it is a case of the police siding with him, although (1) he could not show any evidence of harm to him (there was NONE - the actual bodily harm was inflicted by HIM on ME, but the police didn't ask me about that!) And (2) there had never been any previous allegations against me from him or anyone else. So despite my unblemished good reputation the police decided to press a charge of"common assault" on the basis that (1) I would easily be intimidated by the circumstances (I was distraught as he had walked out 15 months before after 14 years of a bewildering "marriage") (2) I would accept a "Caution" if sufficient pressure was applied to me - yes, I buckled! and (3) The "caution" be would be "spent" immediately. All very convenient for the police, but I was left with a criminal record because my then H's manipulation of the police. My story is similar to others "wrong-footed" by the malice of "trans" liars.
My then H was 6ft 2in tall. I am 5ft 7in. What are the most likely circumstances for a middle class, well educated wife? Am I really going to attack a man who has for a dozen years gas-lit me (and now the police if they would only recognise it as such)? This is like the Rochdale Pakistani men who groomed and raped white girls: Rochdale police refused to prosecute for fear of being accused of "racism" ignoring ALL the evidence. Now AGPs (mature men pretending to be women - delusional, assertive and narcissistic) are the next "untouchables" - a sacred caste.
I just don’t believe the story about fear of an accusation of racism. I’ve heard these rape gangs were operating in the seventies. They wouldn’t have cared about being accused of racism in the seventies.
It's alos the new vichy feminism that men are the real victims and suffer domestic abuse just as much as women but it's worse because it's stigmatised. I have a friend who was abused and gaslit by her husband for many years and no-one would believe her because he was charming to everyone. He took her kids away from her and turned them against her. The police would not believe her either as he claimed victimhood.
>> Telling the person that they have committed a crime and then saying "60 quid, we'll put you on a course, I will downgrade the crime to a non crime"? I've never seen anything like it. That is a shakedown. It is straightforward extortion. << They learned it from watching Stonewall, repent and pay money and do better
I saw the video. It’s one of the most disturbing watches I’ve seen.
It’s an ideological Police Force for individuals delighting in abusing their powers & persecuting protestors. Is it Russia? China? No - it’s the Uk. Our Police are obsessed with pursuing gender sceptics with extreme prejudice. It’s as clear as day. If you don’t agree with the transgender agenda they’re coming for you. Forget about Police investigating burglaries etc - they’re a Politics Force. They will force you to comply. It’s sinister, disturbing, bizarre & grotesque that gender politics & queer theory has come to this.... and they’re the ones who go on about ‘fighting fascism’!
We clearly have a Police FORCE. I’m not going to use the word Service, because because ‘Service’ is for all the people. These Police are clearly singling-out those who do not agree with dominant transgender ideology. It’s institutionalised in the Force & obviously totally signed up to by individual cops. Their attitude / body language & posturing was intimidating and threatening. They are abusing the uniform & their position; taking the law into their own hands. They’re out of control. (What’s new? Many Cops like bullying people - that’s why they become Cops. Why wouldn’t they be any different on this?)
I don’t feel safe walking the streets because of Cops. I do not feel I live in a free country because of Cops. I don’t feel safe going about my daily life because of Cops. I can see why some of the black community in America are calling for Cops to be de-funded. When you’ve been worked-over & abused by them, it’s going to leave you feeling that way. I wonder if the little social justice warriors and anarchists will see the irony of what they’ve brought about?
I don’t trust the Police. It’s a pity the actions of some taint the reputation of all; but there’s so much abuse of power in so many different ways by them I can’t.
The ‘Top Brass’ have to get a grip. The Police are publicly funded & supposed to be neutral; not displaying the flag of a radical oppressive movement on their vehicles & uniforms & arresting those who dissent.
The top brass set the agenda. This is coming from the top brass. They want to be seem to be inclusive. They think it will make them look good but they haven't bothered to inspect what it is they are supporting.
Funnily enough the data for successful arrests for actual crime is at an all time low. They're too busy harassing people for free speech, protecting peados and being the strong arm for Stonewall. I do not trust them.
I think if you look at union and strike history in the U.K., you will find that your police have always been, first and foremost, working to protect the "property" of the upper classes.
How are these officers not fired immediately? If they cannot be for some BS half-cocked reason, surely someone will have the good sense to demote them to a desk job or such humiliating meniality that they show themselves out the door.
The thing is if they are experienced officers and good at doing their actual job I wouldn't want all their skills and experience wasted. Just get Stonewall out and resume normal operation.
Wow. I saw people posting that they were concerned with Harry's involvement because they don't share his views on some stuff but that misses the point. He has done us all, (is doing ) a great service in exposing the police and the extent of the capture. Its not about what is said or posted its about the fact we are a democracy and you don't get arrested for a thought or an expression alone. What happened to "I may not agree with what you say but I defend to the death your right to say it.". Well done Harry and thanks as ever to Graham.
People who think that someone shouldn't be involved in something becuase they don't share all the same views etc. are just being gatekeepers. It's ridiculous. I don't agree with Matt Walsh on many things but his film "what is a woman" still clearly helps spread the gender critical message. Some people cannot separate the person from their views.
This is the issue though. "I don't agree with X on Y issue so won't listen to X when they are pointing out the insanity on Issue B that I do support, even if that will help me".
Its tribalism and its led to the polarisation of politics. Harry's actions here are nothing to do with politics. They are all to do with the common protection of democracy and the right to being treated fairly in society. Unfortunately there is a tiny element with a massively over inflated sense of entitlement and influence saying that only they and their like minded cult members can be protected.
Its going to backfire badly and then we WILL get the rent-a-mob turning up and causing hell when they see which "side" to be on (clue - they won't be on any "side" just their own anarchical side).
2011 London Riots because Mark Duggan was killed by police....the rent a mob went on a riot spree causing huge damage to businesses and residential areas. They didn't care about Mark. They cared about having an opportunity to cause mayhem.
I fear if the police do not pull back from this ideological capture (why on EARTH do they have ANY badge supporting a lobby/single interest group???) then there WILL be riots again.
Exactly this. I strongly suspect that amny of the men that turn up to harass women when they gather to speak are not part of the trans mob but just using it as an occassion to do what they like to do best - harass people, get away with vandalism and harassment and fulfill their own agenda. Thinking the police will do nothing as long as they hide behind the stripey flag will just embolden them further.
There'll be rioting as the intake are less real policemen and more ideologues in fancy dress incapable of maintaining order. They've joined to put on fancy dress to oppress political opposition. It's a gift to the far right.
We urgently need to get someone on this "Re-Education Course" in order to see what it's like.
The indications given by the police suggest it is pathetic. You have to check with your neighbour before you tweet. Which neighbour? Your next-door neighbour? Why? That the police threw around accusations of homophobia when gender ideology is itself deeply homophobic suggests they haven't got a clue.
It's an interesting scenario, this checking your SM posts are OK with your neighbour before posting. Will they vet the neighbours first? Because if my neighbours had to check with me I'd just be egging them on to post offensive (but legal) stuff, and then claim the Stonewall defence - 'They didn't have to take my advice, they chose to do it.'
Do we know or suspect who reported you over the image of the "four quadrant" version of the "Trans flag", the one which had already been published, the one wihich vaguely ressembles a Nazi swastika? Obviously it is important to know your enemy.
There's one who boasted that it was him on Twitter. Though that may have been the previous time. It seems to be the same time wasters time and again. They suck in disproportionate attention and I cannot quite believe there are likely under ten of these same constantly complaining people and they set the attack dogs on the same small group of people time and again. It looks like it may take many months and more action until the 'guidance' is followed, let alone laws. Some individual force areas seem to have more of a problem with this than others - not sure if those plastering their uniforms with trans or 'progressive' rainbow (trans) flags is related. The ones banging on about 'homophobia' might want to read what many gay men are saying about this.
They're like children seeing how much they can get away with and no one is being adult and telling them no. We're beyond bored and unwilling to keep indulging it. Not heard so much about those who repeatedly call the police up to order pizza - maybe this is the latest version of that.
"And they said, well, one of the things for instance will be this, that you will learn to go and ask your neighbor, if it's okay before you post something on social media."
OH MY GOD!
I'm sorry, but the UK is entirely too silly and too stupid to actually exist. This is over the line.
I don't know! Go to California, I'll think you'll find it's entirely too silly and too stupid to exist. The governor Noisome yakking on and on about climate change when California permits fracking and unchecked development. (Read a piece years ago about how people should not have been permitted to build homes in mountainous terrain which is difficult to reach in case of fire.)
Thank the gods for Harry Miller! And Bad Law. Had it not been for him the stinking mess that's Hampshire Police would still be under the radar. I live in Hampshire and as a member of the LGB community am sick to death of seeing that bloody homophobic misogynistic 'Pride' flag on police uniforms and elsewhere. At least we have a decent PCC in Donna Jones and can hope this is the beginning of change.
Creepy Biscuits! Does anyone have access to the video uploaded by Lawrence Fox? I tried to watch it but it cuts out after a couple of seconds. Others have claimed a similar experience. Would really like to see it .
The more I think about it the more it feels like the police were being paid off by the grooming gangs to keep schtum. It stretched over four counties, it just makes more sense they were being paid in teenage girls, than they didn’t investigate ‘because racism’.
I love Harry’s last line. It needs to be a meme.
“You are the military wing of Stonewall and I will not recognize your authority and I will not obey anything that you say.”
I agree they cover for anti social men and grooming gangs in NZ as well. Virtually no consequences for illegal activities by men on any front. Constantly harrassing women and children too. Easy targets for bullies. Pretty sick. And if one can’t bring you down another one just steps up to increase the pressure to wear women out and continue their oppression and abuse and we are simply not allowed to speak out because…you guessed it…. women are just crazy not their targets. A man who steps out of line to support women and children would be even more irritating to them stepping out of line. It’s just the witch hunts all over again. It’s always been there covertly and institutionally. Arrogant and thick.
I watched Tommy Robinsons investigation of Telford on GETTR. and there was an individual policeman who was being handed a fat envelope of cash for evidence.
The girl he spoke to saw it happen.
So it is at least in part about money. But then Maggie Oliver has also said it’s that the police at the top see the girls as garbage and of no value. I just think it’s general corruption.
It took them decades to admit they lied about the Hillsborough disaster. That happened in the eighties. My Dad knew the local police were corrupt when he was a teen in the sixties. I think they’ve been like this for some time.
Good to see this, Emma, and I hope some of the naive commenters on here read this. I can't believe people have really believed the police are there to serve them unless the people in question are of the upper classes.
I've tried to watch the video but Twitter is doing that thing where they pretend ther'e a problem with it and it cuts to an error message after a second or two.
Many people dislike Harry Miller for his politics, his aggressive attitude and his stubbornness.
But let me say, I am so pleased that we are 'on the same side' in this, because I would never want to face him down in any way whatsoever!
He is a force of nature.
"aggressive attitude and his stubbornness" . Another word for it might be"integrity". That's what makes them uneasy and him a force of nature.
Agreed!
The funniest thing on the video for me was Lawrence Fox cutting in saying something to Harry like “let them speak” ( the lead policeman). Harry stopped talking mid flow and the male officer replied with something along lines of “ I’m not telling you now”
Not mature professional behaviour which is what I would expect
I am so glad that this recording exists.
It will be a very genuinely useful training aid. I don't want to think that either the police act randomly, or that this was sanctioned by their senior officers or policy. I still do have enormous respect for some individual officers and teams who must be banging their heads at this.
Yes reminds me of those funny work training videos John Cleese did
But check his demeanor in the video. Calm, assertive and knowledgeable. He didn't resist because he knew he was on the right side of truth. I would love to be more educated in this but I guess the procedure would be different in Scotland.
Yes agree when he was asked about any weapons I recall he replied “only my razor wit”.
haha yeah! [like not working ....]
This.
I don't care what his politics is. This - a police force wearing a badge for a lobby group with the police name on it - is tantamount to being a secondary "secret police", intimidating persons into handing over money without due course of justice......
None of this is party politics. This is state sanctioned abuse of citizens by bypassing the proper due process of law. Where was the PACE act here?
Its been replaced by a lobby groups demands.
Someone like Harry Miller is what is needed. Bravo to him.
Neither do I. Perhaps I should have been clearer... I went for pithy instead!
I fully agree with you. State-sanctioned, lobby-empowered for sure - But also I saw individuals feeling their own power in uniform and trying stuff on with someone they shouldn't have crossed.
Sadly, it will work on others with no real grasp of the law and those who do not have the nouse or courage to answer back and stand their ground in such an impressive way.
I said last night in the pub that Harry Miller is the right wing hero the left don't have.
I have a fear of uniforms ever since I forgot my science overall and was kindly allowed to wear a spare white one the teacher had. I was called Miss accidentally by others in the class. And was asked questions as if I would know. Really weird deference and all lesson. I spun round to the growing patient queue behind me and said 'erm, it's me, why are you acting funny?'. They thought I was the teacher as if my face was suddenly a blank to them. The times I have worn other uniforms or hi vis it's very weird how people stop, walk around you, go quiet, or immediately capitulate. It's a great disguise. Holding a clip board was similar and people volunteer all sorts of information. At work I learned (or was told) to take off anything that obviously marked me out as working where I did. It happens when you wear a smart suit or coat too.
A senior (former?) police officer was talking about the child Q case and how other adults (as in their teachers) should still be advocating for the rights of any child in their care, despite police officers giving the impression they can do what they like without interruption. You still must continue to advocate.
Wow. There's just something about Harry. See what I mean -- he's born for this. The right person at the right moment with the right stuff. Bless Harry and all his policing knowledge. What would we do without him?
And as he WAS in the police, he knows he process, the law and correct behaviour *as a police* officer.
He is the right person for this.
Cathy Larkman, ex DS in Gwent, also on the case. She's been described as having a cervix of steel. We need these ex coppers to call out this 'nonce sense.'
Yours is the first comment I've liked, having just slapped my 30 nicker on Glinner's coffee table. I loathe his support of feminism and 'gay rights', but he's one of the most outspoken on the paedophile agenda at the heart of LGBTQ, and he's willing to lay it all on the line to protect children.
I think the police force he belonged to and the police force of today are like chalk and cheese. CCs like Olivia Pinkney have a correctnick recruitment priority. Crime is going to spike, the police as a repressive political force is going to grow. This Conservative government needs to get a grip. A rolling coup is taking place.
Scary! Pulling such shenanigans on a former PO is wild. Dread to think what swindles they're perpetrating on general public.
Quite a few, speaking from personal experience. This will be revealed in due course.
They got you too??!! 😱
blimey!
Please do reveal. And educate is so we can avoid and overthrow this regime.
The police wrongly accused me of "common assault" when it was my trans then H who attacked ME. This is not a "free speech" case but it is a case of the police siding with him, although (1) he could not show any evidence of harm to him (there was NONE - the actual bodily harm was inflicted by HIM on ME, but the police didn't ask me about that!) And (2) there had never been any previous allegations against me from him or anyone else. So despite my unblemished good reputation the police decided to press a charge of"common assault" on the basis that (1) I would easily be intimidated by the circumstances (I was distraught as he had walked out 15 months before after 14 years of a bewildering "marriage") (2) I would accept a "Caution" if sufficient pressure was applied to me - yes, I buckled! and (3) The "caution" be would be "spent" immediately. All very convenient for the police, but I was left with a criminal record because my then H's manipulation of the police. My story is similar to others "wrong-footed" by the malice of "trans" liars.
My ex used to twist events like that. He was always the victim, rather than the perpetrator.
My then H was 6ft 2in tall. I am 5ft 7in. What are the most likely circumstances for a middle class, well educated wife? Am I really going to attack a man who has for a dozen years gas-lit me (and now the police if they would only recognise it as such)? This is like the Rochdale Pakistani men who groomed and raped white girls: Rochdale police refused to prosecute for fear of being accused of "racism" ignoring ALL the evidence. Now AGPs (mature men pretending to be women - delusional, assertive and narcissistic) are the next "untouchables" - a sacred caste.
I just don’t believe the story about fear of an accusation of racism. I’ve heard these rape gangs were operating in the seventies. They wouldn’t have cared about being accused of racism in the seventies.
It's alos the new vichy feminism that men are the real victims and suffer domestic abuse just as much as women but it's worse because it's stigmatised. I have a friend who was abused and gaslit by her husband for many years and no-one would believe her because he was charming to everyone. He took her kids away from her and turned them against her. The police would not believe her either as he claimed victimhood.
>> Telling the person that they have committed a crime and then saying "60 quid, we'll put you on a course, I will downgrade the crime to a non crime"? I've never seen anything like it. That is a shakedown. It is straightforward extortion. << They learned it from watching Stonewall, repent and pay money and do better
Wait. Graham, with you and all these funny terfs around, surely I am not the first to claim
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I saw the video. It’s one of the most disturbing watches I’ve seen.
It’s an ideological Police Force for individuals delighting in abusing their powers & persecuting protestors. Is it Russia? China? No - it’s the Uk. Our Police are obsessed with pursuing gender sceptics with extreme prejudice. It’s as clear as day. If you don’t agree with the transgender agenda they’re coming for you. Forget about Police investigating burglaries etc - they’re a Politics Force. They will force you to comply. It’s sinister, disturbing, bizarre & grotesque that gender politics & queer theory has come to this.... and they’re the ones who go on about ‘fighting fascism’!
We clearly have a Police FORCE. I’m not going to use the word Service, because because ‘Service’ is for all the people. These Police are clearly singling-out those who do not agree with dominant transgender ideology. It’s institutionalised in the Force & obviously totally signed up to by individual cops. Their attitude / body language & posturing was intimidating and threatening. They are abusing the uniform & their position; taking the law into their own hands. They’re out of control. (What’s new? Many Cops like bullying people - that’s why they become Cops. Why wouldn’t they be any different on this?)
I don’t feel safe walking the streets because of Cops. I do not feel I live in a free country because of Cops. I don’t feel safe going about my daily life because of Cops. I can see why some of the black community in America are calling for Cops to be de-funded. When you’ve been worked-over & abused by them, it’s going to leave you feeling that way. I wonder if the little social justice warriors and anarchists will see the irony of what they’ve brought about?
I don’t trust the Police. It’s a pity the actions of some taint the reputation of all; but there’s so much abuse of power in so many different ways by them I can’t.
The ‘Top Brass’ have to get a grip. The Police are publicly funded & supposed to be neutral; not displaying the flag of a radical oppressive movement on their vehicles & uniforms & arresting those who dissent.
The top brass set the agenda. This is coming from the top brass. They want to be seem to be inclusive. They think it will make them look good but they haven't bothered to inspect what it is they are supporting.
The top bras? 🤔😁
chief constables
Funnily enough the data for successful arrests for actual crime is at an all time low. They're too busy harassing people for free speech, protecting peados and being the strong arm for Stonewall. I do not trust them.
Public trust in the police is also at an all time low.
The polis hiv aywis been a force. They're anither airm o' the State tae protect property furst an foremaist onythin else is jist windae dressin
You’re right.
You are describing the US. But you are right that the ethos of the police is indeed changing to protecting property first.
I think if you look at union and strike history in the U.K., you will find that your police have always been, first and foremost, working to protect the "property" of the upper classes.
Not even protecting property as burglaries seem to be ignored.
Sorry. I mean the ethos of UK police obviously.
How are these officers not fired immediately? If they cannot be for some BS half-cocked reason, surely someone will have the good sense to demote them to a desk job or such humiliating meniality that they show themselves out the door.
The thing is if they are experienced officers and good at doing their actual job I wouldn't want all their skills and experience wasted. Just get Stonewall out and resume normal operation.
That's absolutely insane! I hope this gets picked up by the papers! And Truss and Sunak!
It is in the Times today with comments turned off
Incredible. The Stasi is here, no mistake.
Harry happy to crowdfund any case brought to bear. Certain Police forces are out of control.
Graham, you know what would be handy. If Harry could do a 'what if' article (or something)?
He knows the law and the protocols etc but the rest of us don't.
What should we do if a similar scenario played out at our front door, over a similar hurty feelz tweet?
Yes, exactly this!
YES! I want this please. Happy to pay towards cost. Need it for Scotland regulations though.
Wow. I saw people posting that they were concerned with Harry's involvement because they don't share his views on some stuff but that misses the point. He has done us all, (is doing ) a great service in exposing the police and the extent of the capture. Its not about what is said or posted its about the fact we are a democracy and you don't get arrested for a thought or an expression alone. What happened to "I may not agree with what you say but I defend to the death your right to say it.". Well done Harry and thanks as ever to Graham.
People who think that someone shouldn't be involved in something becuase they don't share all the same views etc. are just being gatekeepers. It's ridiculous. I don't agree with Matt Walsh on many things but his film "what is a woman" still clearly helps spread the gender critical message. Some people cannot separate the person from their views.
It's called an ego problem. 'Let the world burn if the firemen don't reflect my self image'.
This is the issue though. "I don't agree with X on Y issue so won't listen to X when they are pointing out the insanity on Issue B that I do support, even if that will help me".
Its tribalism and its led to the polarisation of politics. Harry's actions here are nothing to do with politics. They are all to do with the common protection of democracy and the right to being treated fairly in society. Unfortunately there is a tiny element with a massively over inflated sense of entitlement and influence saying that only they and their like minded cult members can be protected.
Its going to backfire badly and then we WILL get the rent-a-mob turning up and causing hell when they see which "side" to be on (clue - they won't be on any "side" just their own anarchical side).
2011 London Riots because Mark Duggan was killed by police....the rent a mob went on a riot spree causing huge damage to businesses and residential areas. They didn't care about Mark. They cared about having an opportunity to cause mayhem.
I fear if the police do not pull back from this ideological capture (why on EARTH do they have ANY badge supporting a lobby/single interest group???) then there WILL be riots again.
Exactly this. I strongly suspect that amny of the men that turn up to harass women when they gather to speak are not part of the trans mob but just using it as an occassion to do what they like to do best - harass people, get away with vandalism and harassment and fulfill their own agenda. Thinking the police will do nothing as long as they hide behind the stripey flag will just embolden them further.
There'll be rioting as the intake are less real policemen and more ideologues in fancy dress incapable of maintaining order. They've joined to put on fancy dress to oppress political opposition. It's a gift to the far right.
We urgently need to get someone on this "Re-Education Course" in order to see what it's like.
The indications given by the police suggest it is pathetic. You have to check with your neighbour before you tweet. Which neighbour? Your next-door neighbour? Why? That the police threw around accusations of homophobia when gender ideology is itself deeply homophobic suggests they haven't got a clue.
It's an interesting scenario, this checking your SM posts are OK with your neighbour before posting. Will they vet the neighbours first? Because if my neighbours had to check with me I'd just be egging them on to post offensive (but legal) stuff, and then claim the Stonewall defence - 'They didn't have to take my advice, they chose to do it.'
Chinese cultural revolution springs to mind .....
So, so courageous! Thank you, Harry.
Do we know or suspect who reported you over the image of the "four quadrant" version of the "Trans flag", the one which had already been published, the one wihich vaguely ressembles a Nazi swastika? Obviously it is important to know your enemy.
There's one who boasted that it was him on Twitter. Though that may have been the previous time. It seems to be the same time wasters time and again. They suck in disproportionate attention and I cannot quite believe there are likely under ten of these same constantly complaining people and they set the attack dogs on the same small group of people time and again. It looks like it may take many months and more action until the 'guidance' is followed, let alone laws. Some individual force areas seem to have more of a problem with this than others - not sure if those plastering their uniforms with trans or 'progressive' rainbow (trans) flags is related. The ones banging on about 'homophobia' might want to read what many gay men are saying about this.
They're like children seeing how much they can get away with and no one is being adult and telling them no. We're beyond bored and unwilling to keep indulging it. Not heard so much about those who repeatedly call the police up to order pizza - maybe this is the latest version of that.
Vaguely? I saw a swastika, not something vague at all. And it was very clever.
"And they said, well, one of the things for instance will be this, that you will learn to go and ask your neighbor, if it's okay before you post something on social media."
OH MY GOD!
I'm sorry, but the UK is entirely too silly and too stupid to actually exist. This is over the line.
For those of us in London, the most outrageous part is asking us to talk to our neighbours. We know our rights.
I don't know! Go to California, I'll think you'll find it's entirely too silly and too stupid to exist. The governor Noisome yakking on and on about climate change when California permits fracking and unchecked development. (Read a piece years ago about how people should not have been permitted to build homes in mountainous terrain which is difficult to reach in case of fire.)
Thank the gods for Harry Miller! And Bad Law. Had it not been for him the stinking mess that's Hampshire Police would still be under the radar. I live in Hampshire and as a member of the LGB community am sick to death of seeing that bloody homophobic misogynistic 'Pride' flag on police uniforms and elsewhere. At least we have a decent PCC in Donna Jones and can hope this is the beginning of change.
I didn't like the picture that this is about..
But whoa, go Harry! He's handing them their arses on plates
Creepy Biscuits! Does anyone have access to the video uploaded by Lawrence Fox? I tried to watch it but it cuts out after a couple of seconds. Others have claimed a similar experience. Would really like to see it .
Yes I had trouble viewing it from a retweet, this is the one I found that worked.
https://twitter.com/lozzafox/status/1552709817680150528?s=21&t=x8D9lb_Nw6BaPwVVdLiKqw
The more I think about it the more it feels like the police were being paid off by the grooming gangs to keep schtum. It stretched over four counties, it just makes more sense they were being paid in teenage girls, than they didn’t investigate ‘because racism’.
I love Harry’s last line. It needs to be a meme.
“You are the military wing of Stonewall and I will not recognize your authority and I will not obey anything that you say.”
I agree they cover for anti social men and grooming gangs in NZ as well. Virtually no consequences for illegal activities by men on any front. Constantly harrassing women and children too. Easy targets for bullies. Pretty sick. And if one can’t bring you down another one just steps up to increase the pressure to wear women out and continue their oppression and abuse and we are simply not allowed to speak out because…you guessed it…. women are just crazy not their targets. A man who steps out of line to support women and children would be even more irritating to them stepping out of line. It’s just the witch hunts all over again. It’s always been there covertly and institutionally. Arrogant and thick.
And lazy…😃
I watched Tommy Robinsons investigation of Telford on GETTR. and there was an individual policeman who was being handed a fat envelope of cash for evidence.
The girl he spoke to saw it happen.
So it is at least in part about money. But then Maggie Oliver has also said it’s that the police at the top see the girls as garbage and of no value. I just think it’s general corruption.
It took them decades to admit they lied about the Hillsborough disaster. That happened in the eighties. My Dad knew the local police were corrupt when he was a teen in the sixties. I think they’ve been like this for some time.
Good to see this, Emma, and I hope some of the naive commenters on here read this. I can't believe people have really believed the police are there to serve them unless the people in question are of the upper classes.
I've tried to watch the video but Twitter is doing that thing where they pretend ther'e a problem with it and it cuts to an error message after a second or two.