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We shouldn't be too surprised, their ideology changes with the wind, and their grasp on truth and reality is questionable on the best of days.

I will reiterate my position on this. If a TW wants to posit that a penis doesn't necessarily belong to a man, that's it's a lady-dick or whatever, or that genitals are irrelevant and inconsequential, then all the people with penises can get changed together and share the same no-clothing spaces.

A person with gender dysphoria would not get their dick out for all to see, highly highly sceptical that they would go to a nude spa AT ALL. And people keep saying the person in question in this incident doesn't have GD nor does one need to to be trans. But that begs the question, why is a man in the women's section if he doesn't have dysphoria? There is a certain kind of man who gets a thrill out of showing women and girls his cock. That's what kind of man this is. That the activists are defending him is disgusting, and I believe it hurts people with genuine dysphoria.

Maybe that's why they're going heavy with the "it never happened" angle, because they've realized it's indefensible unless they really really want to come across as condoning creepy perverted flashers.

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I bet there will be more women coming along soon. The spa says it has to meet the needs of all its customers, but I have a need not to see male genitals - how will they square that circle?

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The Guardian's coverage was sickening

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The “hoax” thing apparently traces to an anonymous story that LA Police hadn’t had a report filed - therefore hoax, therefore a Proud Boy must have done it & ran away.

Very good basis for the Graun to simply repeat that as if it all checked out.

I wonder what the tactic is going to be now? Pretend the reports filed don’t exist & hope that it will all go away?

Down the memory hole into oblivion.

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Very interesting. How can one tell the difference of the male penis and the girldick? So it’s interesting that all the commentary jumped to it being a trans issue instead of just a cock among the hens. When will the madness end?!

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Flasher's rights are human rights

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Skoll foundation, Guardian US Sponsors, have this twitter request https://mobile.twitter.com/skollfoundation/status/1363141467330531329 .

They're trying to recruit ethnic minorities in support of trans ideology as, at the moment, groups who thought women who objected to flashers in their protected space were all right-wing white supremacists, find themselves facing black women. Because, hell, why not use trans activism to pit black people against each other.

I hope they struggle to find willing supporters.

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Excellent.

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Oh, hey...it's that thing that never happened that's happened.

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The horror just keeps piling up here . Hard to believe so many governments , public bodies ,businesses ,charities etc have actually embraced this insanity . It's as if they've been somehow bewitched . If it continues ,it'll be the end of civilisation as we know it ,and the human race can stop pretending that we have progressed since the middle aged !! Cancelled 2 direct debits this month alone ,both to children's charities ,when I discovered they were signed up to this !! Children's charities approving the medical experimentation of children ?? Beggars belief !!

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The people who want everyone to just "be kind" have perhaps a friend or family member who is transgender and don't want to seem like they're betraying them by advocating to maintain single sex spaces. But this isn't about being in intimate spaces with your mate. What happens when you're alone and a person of the opposite sex who you don't know enters that space? Do you smile? Hoping to affirm his "feminine identity"? Maybe he smiles back. What happens to your kindness when he gets his dick out? Do you look away? Are you uncomfortable yet? Single sex communal changing spaces have worked for a long time, I really don't see why women need to budge up, move over, shush, not complain, and suck it up.

It's unfortunate that some people feel like they were born in the wrong body (even though we know this doesn't actually happen), but it is not reasonable to ask to world to validate your feelings. Strong, resilient people are not created by having others coddle them and pander to their delusions. It is absolutely fine to hear the word no occasionally. It's healthy. And normal.

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Kath, if you're reading this, hire Jesse Singal, let the toys-out-of-pram brigade flounce off, and lead the charge to reclaim high journalistic standards and rationality for liberalism, rather than slamming anchors onto that effort. Bold strategy is what builds legacy.

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