The whole of gender ideology has become a magnet for dangerous, misogynistic and homophobic men. The evidence is overwhelming, so what will it take to make people realise that this is not a small, inconvenient difficulty about single sex spaces. Reality, truth and a functioning society are all at stake along with the safety of women and children.
A pedantic point but an important one. There is no such thing as the UK Green Party. There is the Green Party of England and Wales, and there is the Scottish Green Party (and Northern Ireland has its own party also). Although they are loosely affiliated, they are completely separate parties and organisations.
Both parties appear to have gone wrong when it comes to gender identity politics, but accuracy is important here.
I am not sure what 'affiliated' even means in this context, and it does not look like it makes much difference. It is just the usual thing of the trans-lobby throwing a tantrum when they do not get their own way.
OMG, not again. Wasn't the scandal of Aimee Challenor enough? With father David acting as "her" political agent -- despite charges for abducting, imprisoning (in the loft) and torturing an 11 year-old girl: for which he is now serving a long prison sentence.
I cannot remember whether Aimee was expelled from the Green party or left voluntarily, next found touting for the LibDems. (And most lately recorded from Twitter exchanges as being in an unsavoury threesome of "diaper lovers".) But the Greens appear to have learnt nothing from the Challenor mistake.
And being a GC Green party member (since 1985) is getting too damned expensive: with, on top of national & local party subscriptions, CrowdJustice donations to Shahrar Ali (as former deputy Leader) and Emma (not "Helen") Bateman (former chair of Green party Women) -- both suspended and silenced for expressing GC views, & now both sueing GPEW for discrimination against protected characteristics in terms of the Equality Act.
It feels like I'm paying lawyers on both sides...
But they both implored GC members to stay and fight -- instead of leaving, as we felt inclined to. They begged us NOT to let the Greens be taken over by the gender cult.
Same here. Local party asked me to help campaign; told them I couldn't, with the party in its present state. What am I supposed to say if I knock on a door wearing a green rosette and get asked why Emma Bateman was pushed out, or what a woman is?
Think I'll stay home and ask those questions instead.
It's very difficult, isn't it. Staying at home is the only uncomplicated option in this situation. However, the chances are probably quite slim that the average householder has a clue who Emma Bateman is. And anyone who asked you "why was she pushed out?" might appreciate an honest answer: though it might not incite them to vote Green or, even less, join the party in its current state of gender cult capture.
I am being bombarded by emails from Green candidates (some already Brighton & Hove City Councillors) to donate or help canvass or deliver leaflets for the May local election. I replied to the first few saying sorry, I'm 81 with mobility problems -- which saved me from needing to explain how I felt about the gender issue. That would likely be particularly contentious here, as the gay capital of the UK with an aggressively LGBTQIA+ Labour MP Lloyd Russell-Moyle for Brighton Kemptown where I live: as a marginal which the Brighton Pavilion Greens appear to have finally woken up to as an electoral prospect.
But the Green candidate's leaflet for my ward in the last local election was so complacent, generalised and could-be-anywhere, that I voted for an Independent: concerned with traffic jams on the coastal road, persistently missed waste & recycling collections, and buying some open space for community use as orchards and allotments. As a much better bet.
And this time one of the Independent candidates is an energy specialist and active member of Saltdean Climate Action Network (with a Facebook page). So no question who I'll be voting for.
But it's still very sad what's happened to Green politics.
Its annoying because I used to support the Greens locally until all this slithery stuff. There are some women who have worked for years with the Greens and they are being dumped for the fat lads with blue hair brigade.
They really do think they are the special ones, they have no desire to talk to anyone outside their own special group. It makes me want to play dress up at times, to see who they think I am as they are too stupid to realise much. And we've been giving them power. To be 'normal' or 'average' is now almost akin to being evil as they are anti anything they class as 'heteronormative'. Anything is now 'heteronormative' according to their whims. Gay people? Yup, heteronormative, despite that logically making zero sense.
I am really worried at their ability to pick on people's beliefs (on the environment on what used to be understood as sustainability/fairness/rights/equality) and twist them inside out and back to front. They are the most illiberal and toxic bunch and their zealotry bears little relation to what they're sold as.
My local ones keep inviting me to bike ride meets and I'm currently housebound. Where do I even start with that? Totally clueless barely covers it.
I'm so exhausted and angry by it all. Can only imagine what people in the fray must feel like, Graham, Posie, Helen Joyce, Maya, et al. This nightmare has to end, for god's sake. We are losing our sanity and our grip on reality.
No. We are keeping our grip on reality and we are seeing meltdowns among TRAs due to "good news" stories for us. There is no way we can ever let go of this issue until "normal sanity has been resumed". Yes, it is expensive: I totted up my legal contributions this month: £400. That is a LOT! I can't keep paying out that much for more than one month.
I agree, WE are keeping our grip on reality. So many aren't, so many 'normal' people who find themselves using the wrong pronouns and getting confused and showing their cognitive dissonance. It's so angering and painful to behold. I truly dread the day speech is compelled by law. I cannot live in a world where I would be punished for using correct pronouns. I'm feeling miserable today, so this Borg stuff is particularly agonising. I'll cheer up soon.
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Thank you RIPX4NUTMEG. Ah, lovely 'men in tech'. Or who claim they are 'in tech'. What a surprise. Tech needs to sort itself out sharpish. Still. Again. I used to look around rooms and be one of very few women, then in virtual meetings, and for a few years now I've see the men, then strangely a lot of men in dresses. Who think they are women but aren't. Literally nothing changes, yet there are all these 'women in tech'. WTAF?
My blood runs cold - these foul men - they are somehow all self-declared if not actual 'developers' and in 'technology-security' companies. They slip and slide in worlds they create and do what they like. They are the very same ones grooming online, hiding online, cheating, defrauding, bending boundaries as they make the boundaries now, then erasing uncomfortable truths, hiding identities, escaping all justice, banning us and all behind the scenes. Then the useful idiots hold them up as some kind of human rights god. If he is doing anything online and being paid to do so, is there no duty of care to check who you are employing? The volume of this is overwhelming. They're all 'mods' they're in all real life and offline departments, forums and services, they're all 'digital engagement officers', they're all 'entrepreneurs', they're in all our charities and political parties.
Men in 'tech' are also very good at stalking. I happened to nearly bump into one the other day by chance in person who is an analyst online and in how we use tech. Many of them apply their 'day job' behaviours in their personal lives. I was chatting to someone else who admitted he does this and ‘applies’ his skills. We all tend to now check people out online and it used to amuse me how I could tell how I’d been researched by someone as they thought they knew things about me that would come up in search results but were inaccurate, or disturbingly accurate and that I hadn’t mentioned to them directly. Now it chills me.
This is why these men are not supposed to have access to devices and tend to hide what they are doing. If this really is Lennon, it shows just how determined and impervious to any sanction he is. How typical. Look at all his networks, and I mean all of them. The Greens and any political party in any part of the UK can’t plead naivety or ignorance any longer, despite them trying every time this comes to light.
This is such a strong account, you have a perspective that so few are able to have, let alone describe tellingly. I'm hoping you get chances to be a canary in the coal mine? To maybe write about it anonymously for any media or for bodies that are meant to oversee 'technology-security' companies?
We are all so utterly f'd over by these men. Can anyone, somehow, pull back the curtains on them?
How many scandals? Surely that ship has sailed, at least in Scotland, where Scottish Green Party has surpassed itself in supporting one (is) too many unsavoury characters.
The Greens are proof that if you give amongst the worst examples of males, an inch - they'll infiltrate, & exploit it for all they can get - for their own ends.
To be fair to the 'Green' Party they are not the only party to be captured - Labour and Lib Dems. I am sure that you could find followers of various dubious trans characters amongst their candidates. One of the reasons that we know about the problems in the 'Green' Party is that there are people on the inside fighting for the rights of women.
There are many people fighting against this ideology within these parties. They need support, and it is a good idea just to run away, or else it leaves no place for sex based issues in the party political system. It is rather like women just deciding not to take part in sport due to male trans athletes being able to take part in women's sports.
Thinking you are special and the world owes you one is a sort of normal stage when you are growing up.You are special in one way - to yourself and family,best mates etc but you are living under a delusion if you think anyone else agrees.
That's almost the tagline for most of social media and the genderology cult isn't it - better than any bud light strapline. Come my pretties, you are the special ones and this is our secret. Throw in some sparkly snake oil to bewitch and amaze. Across time and space nothing much changes. Ah! But you gave us your consent, so you can't catch us and it's your fault anyway you are to blame!
Look at how Dylan M prances about in some weird confection of what he thinks light fluffy wimminy fantasy beings are. LOOK AT ME being all wimminy!!! And it is women educating themselves, attending prestigious institutions, then getting into senior enough positions in advertising and marketing and working that hard to push that form of what they call 'inclusivity'.
Haha. I just dipped a tiny toe further in this latest online-gamergal-turns-out-to-be-a-male-paedophile-surprise and as I scroll through it's so obvious how all this has unfolded as it has. It's a whole other language for a start - anyone who doesn't spend time online, then add in another layer of other languages of gaming, wouldn't have a clue. Smush up generations and people pretending and creating these online personas with very detailed avatars. And lots of shock as the gals are unmasked as very unpleasant men. It's all fableworthy. But but I was friends with her on Facebook! 'Friends', really? 'Her'? Then lots of 'prove it' (who you are) and how people (usually women or those who portray themselves as women) are stalked. Whoever thought of that 'follow' online concept huh.
I would like to know why political parties are so keen to fall for this in their desperate bid for power and to be seen as relevant. Then promote these 'activists' so rapidly, then they are unmasked, then just 'disappear' back into the ether...
It's a start isn't it? Maybe the BBC useful idiot could have asked Elon specifically about that rather than waffle on about hate, then was unable to give examples. There are plenty. Elon neatly sidestepped that as of course he would and did by asking a direct question. The sheer volume of hatred and blatant lurid threat directed at women online on Twitter might have been an easy place to start, but no, apparently the BBC interviewer didn't know of any of that on his 'feed'.
Yeah that incompetent ‘journalist’ comes from the smug woke brigade .. that daft notion if you can claim to be part of a marginalised group your morals can’t be called into question.
I heard from the BBC radio/multiplatform universe on some trail they are fond of doing now that the BBC had the scoop so I found it and tried to listen. I couldn't listen for long. Elon played with that interviewer like a cat with a tiny ball of wool. So it was a waste of time. You could hear Elon's frustration at dealing with a dimwit. We know there's hate online, he knows there's hate online, the daft one telling him there's hate online knows, yet he couldn't actually describe anything. More hate? Not as much hate? Different flavours of hate? Nice hate, nasty hate, which is it? Moralistic glittery hate? Armando Iannucci and his insights into how this stuff is commissioned sprang to mind. Alongside a big dollop of The Potential forthcoming but when if ever Father Ted Musical the Reds-under-Bedsers don't want us to see.
There are still capable people within the BBC so I'm unsure why this plank was chosen.
Dispute over "gender identity" within the Green party of England and Wales (GPEW) is currently very bitter, but by no means lost: with two ongoing CrowdJustice funded court cases brought by former party Officers (Shahrar Ali and Emma Bateman) for unfair suspension over expression of GC views.
And there is organised resistance. As a Green party member for 38 years who is appalled by the gender cult, I am signed up to Green Feminists UK (not an official GPEW group) as a sub-group of Green Party Women (an official GPEW group) -- with regular emails suggesting how we can fight back.
This includes guidance on how to vote in elections for party officers: identifying gender critical candidates to put first, and "trans allies" to rank last -- or when to call for nominations to be reopened.
The whole of gender ideology has become a magnet for dangerous, misogynistic and homophobic men. The evidence is overwhelming, so what will it take to make people realise that this is not a small, inconvenient difficulty about single sex spaces. Reality, truth and a functioning society are all at stake along with the safety of women and children.
A pedantic point but an important one. There is no such thing as the UK Green Party. There is the Green Party of England and Wales, and there is the Scottish Green Party (and Northern Ireland has its own party also). Although they are loosely affiliated, they are completely separate parties and organisations.
Both parties appear to have gone wrong when it comes to gender identity politics, but accuracy is important here.
The Scottish Green Party has disaffiliated from GPEW due to the 'transphobia' of people like Emma Bateman and Shahrar Ali.
I'd forgotten that - a good example of the narcissism of small differences!! So not even loosely affiliated at this point.
I am not sure what 'affiliated' even means in this context, and it does not look like it makes much difference. It is just the usual thing of the trans-lobby throwing a tantrum when they do not get their own way.
OMG, not again. Wasn't the scandal of Aimee Challenor enough? With father David acting as "her" political agent -- despite charges for abducting, imprisoning (in the loft) and torturing an 11 year-old girl: for which he is now serving a long prison sentence.
I cannot remember whether Aimee was expelled from the Green party or left voluntarily, next found touting for the LibDems. (And most lately recorded from Twitter exchanges as being in an unsavoury threesome of "diaper lovers".) But the Greens appear to have learnt nothing from the Challenor mistake.
And being a GC Green party member (since 1985) is getting too damned expensive: with, on top of national & local party subscriptions, CrowdJustice donations to Shahrar Ali (as former deputy Leader) and Emma (not "Helen") Bateman (former chair of Green party Women) -- both suspended and silenced for expressing GC views, & now both sueing GPEW for discrimination against protected characteristics in terms of the Equality Act.
It feels like I'm paying lawyers on both sides...
But they both implored GC members to stay and fight -- instead of leaving, as we felt inclined to. They begged us NOT to let the Greens be taken over by the gender cult.
Same here. Local party asked me to help campaign; told them I couldn't, with the party in its present state. What am I supposed to say if I knock on a door wearing a green rosette and get asked why Emma Bateman was pushed out, or what a woman is?
Think I'll stay home and ask those questions instead.
It's very difficult, isn't it. Staying at home is the only uncomplicated option in this situation. However, the chances are probably quite slim that the average householder has a clue who Emma Bateman is. And anyone who asked you "why was she pushed out?" might appreciate an honest answer: though it might not incite them to vote Green or, even less, join the party in its current state of gender cult capture.
I am being bombarded by emails from Green candidates (some already Brighton & Hove City Councillors) to donate or help canvass or deliver leaflets for the May local election. I replied to the first few saying sorry, I'm 81 with mobility problems -- which saved me from needing to explain how I felt about the gender issue. That would likely be particularly contentious here, as the gay capital of the UK with an aggressively LGBTQIA+ Labour MP Lloyd Russell-Moyle for Brighton Kemptown where I live: as a marginal which the Brighton Pavilion Greens appear to have finally woken up to as an electoral prospect.
But the Green candidate's leaflet for my ward in the last local election was so complacent, generalised and could-be-anywhere, that I voted for an Independent: concerned with traffic jams on the coastal road, persistently missed waste & recycling collections, and buying some open space for community use as orchards and allotments. As a much better bet.
And this time one of the Independent candidates is an energy specialist and active member of Saltdean Climate Action Network (with a Facebook page). So no question who I'll be voting for.
But it's still very sad what's happened to Green politics.
Its annoying because I used to support the Greens locally until all this slithery stuff. There are some women who have worked for years with the Greens and they are being dumped for the fat lads with blue hair brigade.
Fat lad with pink hair standing for Greens where I am😄
Has he knocked on your door yet? I hope you have a nice speech prepared!
I come over all Birkenhead North sometimes with that lot.
" Just act a bit more Normal for god's sake" .Then people will talk to you.
They really do think they are the special ones, they have no desire to talk to anyone outside their own special group. It makes me want to play dress up at times, to see who they think I am as they are too stupid to realise much. And we've been giving them power. To be 'normal' or 'average' is now almost akin to being evil as they are anti anything they class as 'heteronormative'. Anything is now 'heteronormative' according to their whims. Gay people? Yup, heteronormative, despite that logically making zero sense.
I am really worried at their ability to pick on people's beliefs (on the environment on what used to be understood as sustainability/fairness/rights/equality) and twist them inside out and back to front. They are the most illiberal and toxic bunch and their zealotry bears little relation to what they're sold as.
My local ones keep inviting me to bike ride meets and I'm currently housebound. Where do I even start with that? Totally clueless barely covers it.
I'm so exhausted and angry by it all. Can only imagine what people in the fray must feel like, Graham, Posie, Helen Joyce, Maya, et al. This nightmare has to end, for god's sake. We are losing our sanity and our grip on reality.
No. We are keeping our grip on reality and we are seeing meltdowns among TRAs due to "good news" stories for us. There is no way we can ever let go of this issue until "normal sanity has been resumed". Yes, it is expensive: I totted up my legal contributions this month: £400. That is a LOT! I can't keep paying out that much for more than one month.
I agree, WE are keeping our grip on reality. So many aren't, so many 'normal' people who find themselves using the wrong pronouns and getting confused and showing their cognitive dissonance. It's so angering and painful to behold. I truly dread the day speech is compelled by law. I cannot live in a world where I would be punished for using correct pronouns. I'm feeling miserable today, so this Borg stuff is particularly agonising. I'll cheer up soon.
I just want to know what's up with that picture. Was he in an accident, or is he trying out for a role in Frankenstein?
Are you suggesting that he doesn’t ‘pass’? Bigot!
Honestly, he looks demonic in that photo.
Thank you RIPX4NUTMEG. Ah, lovely 'men in tech'. Or who claim they are 'in tech'. What a surprise. Tech needs to sort itself out sharpish. Still. Again. I used to look around rooms and be one of very few women, then in virtual meetings, and for a few years now I've see the men, then strangely a lot of men in dresses. Who think they are women but aren't. Literally nothing changes, yet there are all these 'women in tech'. WTAF?
My blood runs cold - these foul men - they are somehow all self-declared if not actual 'developers' and in 'technology-security' companies. They slip and slide in worlds they create and do what they like. They are the very same ones grooming online, hiding online, cheating, defrauding, bending boundaries as they make the boundaries now, then erasing uncomfortable truths, hiding identities, escaping all justice, banning us and all behind the scenes. Then the useful idiots hold them up as some kind of human rights god. If he is doing anything online and being paid to do so, is there no duty of care to check who you are employing? The volume of this is overwhelming. They're all 'mods' they're in all real life and offline departments, forums and services, they're all 'digital engagement officers', they're all 'entrepreneurs', they're in all our charities and political parties.
Men in 'tech' are also very good at stalking. I happened to nearly bump into one the other day by chance in person who is an analyst online and in how we use tech. Many of them apply their 'day job' behaviours in their personal lives. I was chatting to someone else who admitted he does this and ‘applies’ his skills. We all tend to now check people out online and it used to amuse me how I could tell how I’d been researched by someone as they thought they knew things about me that would come up in search results but were inaccurate, or disturbingly accurate and that I hadn’t mentioned to them directly. Now it chills me.
This is why these men are not supposed to have access to devices and tend to hide what they are doing. If this really is Lennon, it shows just how determined and impervious to any sanction he is. How typical. Look at all his networks, and I mean all of them. The Greens and any political party in any part of the UK can’t plead naivety or ignorance any longer, despite them trying every time this comes to light.
This is such a strong account, you have a perspective that so few are able to have, let alone describe tellingly. I'm hoping you get chances to be a canary in the coal mine? To maybe write about it anonymously for any media or for bodies that are meant to oversee 'technology-security' companies?
We are all so utterly f'd over by these men. Can anyone, somehow, pull back the curtains on them?
How many scandals? Surely that ship has sailed, at least in Scotland, where Scottish Green Party has surpassed itself in supporting one (is) too many unsavoury characters.
The Greens are proof that if you give amongst the worst examples of males, an inch - they'll infiltrate, & exploit it for all they can get - for their own ends.
"for their own ends"... Nice!
Thanks for linking to 'The Green Party must respect our sex!' by Emma Bateman. NB Emma, not Helen.
Thanks for this. Amazing!!
They often choose really nice names don’t they….and then you see the photo!!
Dusty
Lego …yes Lego…have gone woo woo BTW
Just done post on it
Dusty
To be fair to the 'Green' Party they are not the only party to be captured - Labour and Lib Dems. I am sure that you could find followers of various dubious trans characters amongst their candidates. One of the reasons that we know about the problems in the 'Green' Party is that there are people on the inside fighting for the rights of women.
There are many people fighting against this ideology within these parties. They need support, and it is a good idea just to run away, or else it leaves no place for sex based issues in the party political system. It is rather like women just deciding not to take part in sport due to male trans athletes being able to take part in women's sports.
Thinking you are special and the world owes you one is a sort of normal stage when you are growing up.You are special in one way - to yourself and family,best mates etc but you are living under a delusion if you think anyone else agrees.
Most people manage to accept this.
That's almost the tagline for most of social media and the genderology cult isn't it - better than any bud light strapline. Come my pretties, you are the special ones and this is our secret. Throw in some sparkly snake oil to bewitch and amaze. Across time and space nothing much changes. Ah! But you gave us your consent, so you can't catch us and it's your fault anyway you are to blame!
Look at how Dylan M prances about in some weird confection of what he thinks light fluffy wimminy fantasy beings are. LOOK AT ME being all wimminy!!! And it is women educating themselves, attending prestigious institutions, then getting into senior enough positions in advertising and marketing and working that hard to push that form of what they call 'inclusivity'.
Haha. I just dipped a tiny toe further in this latest online-gamergal-turns-out-to-be-a-male-paedophile-surprise and as I scroll through it's so obvious how all this has unfolded as it has. It's a whole other language for a start - anyone who doesn't spend time online, then add in another layer of other languages of gaming, wouldn't have a clue. Smush up generations and people pretending and creating these online personas with very detailed avatars. And lots of shock as the gals are unmasked as very unpleasant men. It's all fableworthy. But but I was friends with her on Facebook! 'Friends', really? 'Her'? Then lots of 'prove it' (who you are) and how people (usually women or those who portray themselves as women) are stalked. Whoever thought of that 'follow' online concept huh.
I would like to know why political parties are so keen to fall for this in their desperate bid for power and to be seen as relevant. Then promote these 'activists' so rapidly, then they are unmasked, then just 'disappear' back into the ether...
I was delighted to see The Times ran an article on this paedophile today. These examples really help reveal the sinister motivations behind this movement. https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/trans-paedophile-nicola-sturgeon-great-first-minister-scotland-2sg7v50tp
It's a start isn't it? Maybe the BBC useful idiot could have asked Elon specifically about that rather than waffle on about hate, then was unable to give examples. There are plenty. Elon neatly sidestepped that as of course he would and did by asking a direct question. The sheer volume of hatred and blatant lurid threat directed at women online on Twitter might have been an easy place to start, but no, apparently the BBC interviewer didn't know of any of that on his 'feed'.
Yeah that incompetent ‘journalist’ comes from the smug woke brigade .. that daft notion if you can claim to be part of a marginalised group your morals can’t be called into question.
I heard from the BBC radio/multiplatform universe on some trail they are fond of doing now that the BBC had the scoop so I found it and tried to listen. I couldn't listen for long. Elon played with that interviewer like a cat with a tiny ball of wool. So it was a waste of time. You could hear Elon's frustration at dealing with a dimwit. We know there's hate online, he knows there's hate online, the daft one telling him there's hate online knows, yet he couldn't actually describe anything. More hate? Not as much hate? Different flavours of hate? Nice hate, nasty hate, which is it? Moralistic glittery hate? Armando Iannucci and his insights into how this stuff is commissioned sprang to mind. Alongside a big dollop of The Potential forthcoming but when if ever Father Ted Musical the Reds-under-Bedsers don't want us to see.
There are still capable people within the BBC so I'm unsure why this plank was chosen.
Dispute over "gender identity" within the Green party of England and Wales (GPEW) is currently very bitter, but by no means lost: with two ongoing CrowdJustice funded court cases brought by former party Officers (Shahrar Ali and Emma Bateman) for unfair suspension over expression of GC views.
And there is organised resistance. As a Green party member for 38 years who is appalled by the gender cult, I am signed up to Green Feminists UK (not an official GPEW group) as a sub-group of Green Party Women (an official GPEW group) -- with regular emails suggesting how we can fight back.
This includes guidance on how to vote in elections for party officers: identifying gender critical candidates to put first, and "trans allies" to rank last -- or when to call for nominations to be reopened.
Ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh