Something more like an exorcism seems more appropriate. It's more reinforcement and encouragement from every direction compounding this man's delusions. There needs to be a register of anyone offering any type of professional training and they have sprung up like a fungus. I am really scratching my head as we used to have to abide by fairly strict rules about what constitutes continuing professional development.
Watch out for those bridges and other critical infrastructure falling down while they wait for some equality and inclusion gender identity emancipation bolloxology training. Maybe bridges need to be wearing their sister's knickers.
I read Sarah's Twitter thread about this. It made me feel sick. Imagine being compelled at work to sit and listen to that man flaunt his fetish? Completely gross. The people engaging his services must be exceedingly dim.
I mean, can you imagine any other male in a workplace being given a platform to tell an organisation how he liked to wear his sister's underwear when he was a boy?
It was hard to watch wasn't it. How he portrayed destroying women's boundaries as some 'human' response to change and advised the viewer to embrace your fear and go for it. How can an employer be so coercive? It's not usual to expect employees to be forced to do this. This wasn't 'training' it was forcing employees to listen to a man's perversions.
I'm not sure what he was waffling about - every example was strange and pointless. His point on 'white van men' letting him cross the road if he dressed up in a particular way means he seems to have swallowed every societal and male stereotype about women and is now being paid to vomit them back out at us and be applauded for that.
“Cool2BTrans” is such a comically awkward name, I can hardly believe it’s really called that. Is there by any chance a logo using a faux-graffiti effect?
I think some people are astonishingly naive. They would rather not think about what gets some men's rocks off. And of course any mention of AGP, even in places that have given women some latitude to talk about the 'trans issue', like Mumsnet, have censored discussion of it
I don't think taking wrong-sex hormones will help with the male-pattern baldness. If it did help, a lot of women who are now experiencing baldness due to poor nutrition would be taking it. Time for a toupee!
"Neeves is also heard stating that biological sex is not an observable reality... Neeves explains that he was first able to “admit” to himself that he is actually a woman after consulting a “clairvoyant” who consulted with a “spirit.""
How did we reach a point where a guy who "realised" he was a woman after consulting a clairvoyant, has his views on biology taken seriously? And where people in workplaces are forced to listen to his dismal little personal thoughts while he gets paid and everyone's too scared to say what they're all thinking?
This is (like Havel's famous 'Greengrocer's Sign" essay) a demonstration of power. ie; 'You will sit and listen to my bleak little stories of wearing my sister's knickers and you will pretend my opinion on biology is valid and you won't dare to challenge me...'
Yes. The more I hear the propaganda from Putin and his war being some humanitarian exercise to save vulnerable Russians, the more I am reminded of the absolutely megalomaniacal shite spouted by trans rights activists echoing around us. It is extreme abuse of power. We've dressed up fruitcake ideology as some form of official fact and learning exercise. Who the hell asks this man into their organisations?
And I have no idea what sex I am as no clairvoyant told me. Poor me, waiting for the day one tells me. Although, I've just realised I can self-identify as a clairvoyant, declare what I want and all is well with the world. Phew.
I made the same comparison between TRAs and Putin. Deny reality and then gaslight everyone into another version of it by controlling the language/media.
You all had better remember that trans is big in western Ukraine and outlawed to be taught to children in Russia. I am growing ever more disgusted in people's demonization of Putin when they don't know the first thing about what has been happening in Ukraine for the past eight years. People in the Donbass have been begging the Russians for military assistance while they have been bombed and shelled by western Ukrainians in swastikas. Just like you western Europeans, western Ukrainians -- fascists in WWII and still fascists -- think they are superior to eastern peoples.
I, too, am a European, only a European-American. When people talk about Putin as though he is the personification of evil when the U.S. overthrew the democratically elected leader of Ukraine and -- you can actually listen to the phone discussions -- then decided whom to install. The western Ukrainian fascists outlawed the Russian language though 1 in 3 people in Ukraine speak Russian, burned the trades union building in Odessa with people in it, have been bombing eastern Ukraine and breaking every ceasefire agreement including the Minsk accords, I begin to think western Europeans are as stupid as Americans. If you need to fear someone, I would fear Biden and the MEN who OWN him.
Now you're calling me stupid? Oh full house there. Stop telling me what to think or who to fear. You are being coercive and incredibly insensitive at a time when hundreds of thousands of people are fleeing for their lives and are terrified. If you are getting all this from your conspiracy theory mag again, it's not helping.
Even I haven't heard hundreds of thousands, only thousands, and the photo from the MSM at the border showed about a hundred people. What I would like to know is what people in western Ukraine are actually thinking and not just shills for the western media. I am certainly not "getting all this from [your] conspiracy theory mag," but from many independent journalists. And they all have sources. I'm not calling you stupid, but when you make stupid comments, I'm not going to believe them.
Say his name. If Martin’s open letter to JK Rowling had been signed Martin Neeves instead of “Katie” Neeves, would it have had any credibility with anyone at all? No wonder they don’t want to be “dead-named”. There is a near magical power in naming. Say his name. The use of the original male name works like a sharp needle poked into the puffed up souffle of nonsense. (I'm enjoying this souffle metaphor.) Using the original "assigned at birth" male name is akin to slamming the oven door on a carefully constructed airy codswallop. Say his name. All will become clear.
Thank you Genevieve. His website states 'he spent nearly 50 years pretending to be male.'
He wasn't pretending, he was male, he is male, will always be male, and he is now pretending to be female. And he is 'in transition' apparently. I am becoming less and less empathetic to men (or women) choosing to twist every potential societal advantage to prop up their delusions and eke this out for as much attention as they can get for extra 'human' rights.
Sarah not only had to endure the AGP-fest at work, but she is also pursuing a case against her local rape crisis centre, because it does not have women-only support groups. Even though it has a specialist trans service, it allows transidentifying men to use a group for traumatised women. How much should a woman who's experienced male violence and exertion of power have to endure? She is an amazing woman.https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10249633/Rape-victim-forced-quit-therapy-sessions-feels-threatened-6ft-trans-woman.html
Oh God, yes I forgot that. What a POS this man is. Her workplace is complicit in harassing her. The TRA world is so small, and so powerful, and so much of it seems to be centred in one part of the country
This person got booked for international women’s day where I used to work. Talking about their/his journey to “womanhood”. Not sure Maya Forstator’s case had been finalised at the time so no one felt they could say anything. They would probably be appalled to read this article- at the time they were being trained by Stonewall and half heartedly practicing “trans women are women” mantra. I would say they were pretending to go along with it to look good 😂 and to appease younger workers. Part of me hopes they read this and feel embarrassed. The other half is a bit sad they were so easily convinced this was a good idea.
Bloody hell. Just wow. This case has riled me more than I expected. It's the complete capture of so many UK employers and choosing that day of all days is such a two fingers up to all women. No women about was there? Can't remember the last training session I completed where a woman talked about dressing up in her sibling's knickers but I'm sure we can work it in somewhere, seeing as it's such vital life-saving information to impart. How do I apply that 'learning' in any potential job role? Ask my male employees about their fetishes and hold a suitable head tilt while I coo, nod and gently hold their elbow in a supportive manner?
Employers like that remind me of that scientific experiment where people were supposedly electrocuting others because someone in a white coat ( stonewall) told them to do it.
You’re right though - it felt a bit like not being invited to your own party while someone pretending to be you unwrapped all your birthday presents
Where I work, International Womens Day is being celebrated with a series of talks among the talks is one on gender and being inclusive and one being given by the Pride network on being part of the LGBTQ+ community. Women can't even have one day about them without it including men in one form or another.
He's not very smart, is he? He thinks taking oestrogen will revert his baldness? Once it's gone, it's gone forever, mate. Those follicles have gone and won't come back. That's like expecting a severed hand to regrow.
All of us women who also suffer from inherited, progressive baldness would be delighted if we could pop a few hormone pills to "bring it back".
Ar*e hole.
I can't believe fetishists like this are given a platform!
I suppose human sexuality is an exuberant sort of thing that has long had its excesses and oddities. What's new is expressing them publicly and elevating them to the status of an identity. What's baffling is why anyone would confuse this particular oddity with actual women actually being women. And why anyone would pay £63.22 for the privilege of undergoing such a confusion process.
Neeves says: “When you’re talking about a trans person, please don’t say they were ‘born a boy’, or ‘born a girl.' Please acknowledge that we weren’t born with that label, we were given it. It’s much better to say they were ‘assigned male’ or ‘assigned female’ at birth.”
My answer:
“No. I WILL continue to say you were born a boy. I will NOT acknowledge that you were ‘labeled’ male at birth. You were NOT ‘assigned’ male at birth. You were male at conception, you are male now, and you will die a male.
Predator is the only word to describe him. No wonder his marriage broke up. I've seen some heartbreaking stories on YouTube from the ex wives of cross dressing men , otherwise known as " trans " widows and some of them are really shocking
It is a sickness which they delight in...and it makes me feel sick hearing about it!
They all need therapy.
Big Psych is driving this agenda, along with Big Pharma. “Therapy” is the last thing they need.
Something more like an exorcism seems more appropriate. It's more reinforcement and encouragement from every direction compounding this man's delusions. There needs to be a register of anyone offering any type of professional training and they have sprung up like a fungus. I am really scratching my head as we used to have to abide by fairly strict rules about what constitutes continuing professional development.
Watch out for those bridges and other critical infrastructure falling down while they wait for some equality and inclusion gender identity emancipation bolloxology training. Maybe bridges need to be wearing their sister's knickers.
I read Sarah's Twitter thread about this. It made me feel sick. Imagine being compelled at work to sit and listen to that man flaunt his fetish? Completely gross. The people engaging his services must be exceedingly dim.
I mean, can you imagine any other male in a workplace being given a platform to tell an organisation how he liked to wear his sister's underwear when he was a boy?
It was hard to watch wasn't it. How he portrayed destroying women's boundaries as some 'human' response to change and advised the viewer to embrace your fear and go for it. How can an employer be so coercive? It's not usual to expect employees to be forced to do this. This wasn't 'training' it was forcing employees to listen to a man's perversions.
I'm not sure what he was waffling about - every example was strange and pointless. His point on 'white van men' letting him cross the road if he dressed up in a particular way means he seems to have swallowed every societal and male stereotype about women and is now being paid to vomit them back out at us and be applauded for that.
Fricken tawdry pervert.
“Cool2BTrans” is such a comically awkward name, I can hardly believe it’s really called that. Is there by any chance a logo using a faux-graffiti effect?
Smacks of "Toyz R Us"
Or Legz Akimbo
Hahaha! Are you remembering the Legs Akimbo acting troup from League of Grntlemen?
Sexuality is a very broad church. It's like anything else... that's like that.
- Tolerance is very important.
Yeah.
- This is what people forget. Gays are just ordinary, healthy guys.
But dykes are evil.
- Olly!
Picture a scene. You arrive home early to find your wife in bed with another man.
- Olly, let's...
But it's not a man. It's a big, fat lezzer wearing my slippers, smoking my pipe!
Don't touch me, you poof!
- D'you wanna take a break?
I'm fine!
Where was I?
It’s like something off Nathan Barley
The man has no self-awareness. Only 'me me me'.
If I met a man with self-awareness, I would fall down dead.
My husband might be the death of you then, Susan.
Oi! I have at least some self-awareness - enough to know I need more, if nothing else 😂😂
Such a big issue for them is compelling us to go along with them.
It's such utter bullshit, and quite why so many play along is baffling.
I think some people are astonishingly naive. They would rather not think about what gets some men's rocks off. And of course any mention of AGP, even in places that have given women some latitude to talk about the 'trans issue', like Mumsnet, have censored discussion of it
Another one who’s trying to wear us like a coat. I’m sure he “represents the trans community really well.”
I don't think taking wrong-sex hormones will help with the male-pattern baldness. If it did help, a lot of women who are now experiencing baldness due to poor nutrition would be taking it. Time for a toupee!
"Neeves is also heard stating that biological sex is not an observable reality... Neeves explains that he was first able to “admit” to himself that he is actually a woman after consulting a “clairvoyant” who consulted with a “spirit.""
How did we reach a point where a guy who "realised" he was a woman after consulting a clairvoyant, has his views on biology taken seriously? And where people in workplaces are forced to listen to his dismal little personal thoughts while he gets paid and everyone's too scared to say what they're all thinking?
This is (like Havel's famous 'Greengrocer's Sign" essay) a demonstration of power. ie; 'You will sit and listen to my bleak little stories of wearing my sister's knickers and you will pretend my opinion on biology is valid and you won't dare to challenge me...'
Yes. The more I hear the propaganda from Putin and his war being some humanitarian exercise to save vulnerable Russians, the more I am reminded of the absolutely megalomaniacal shite spouted by trans rights activists echoing around us. It is extreme abuse of power. We've dressed up fruitcake ideology as some form of official fact and learning exercise. Who the hell asks this man into their organisations?
And I have no idea what sex I am as no clairvoyant told me. Poor me, waiting for the day one tells me. Although, I've just realised I can self-identify as a clairvoyant, declare what I want and all is well with the world. Phew.
I made the same comparison between TRAs and Putin. Deny reality and then gaslight everyone into another version of it by controlling the language/media.
A clairvoyant told him! Wait, let me guess … he was wearing a pencil skirt, heels, and a magenta lip during the consult.
Poor us, waiting for our clairvoyants! How will we manage? What shall we wear?!
You all had better remember that trans is big in western Ukraine and outlawed to be taught to children in Russia. I am growing ever more disgusted in people's demonization of Putin when they don't know the first thing about what has been happening in Ukraine for the past eight years. People in the Donbass have been begging the Russians for military assistance while they have been bombed and shelled by western Ukrainians in swastikas. Just like you western Europeans, western Ukrainians -- fascists in WWII and still fascists -- think they are superior to eastern peoples.
What do you know about my background? 'You western Europeans'? And I'm a fascist too? I think I'm superior to eastern peoples? Wow.
I, too, am a European, only a European-American. When people talk about Putin as though he is the personification of evil when the U.S. overthrew the democratically elected leader of Ukraine and -- you can actually listen to the phone discussions -- then decided whom to install. The western Ukrainian fascists outlawed the Russian language though 1 in 3 people in Ukraine speak Russian, burned the trades union building in Odessa with people in it, have been bombing eastern Ukraine and breaking every ceasefire agreement including the Minsk accords, I begin to think western Europeans are as stupid as Americans. If you need to fear someone, I would fear Biden and the MEN who OWN him.
Now you're calling me stupid? Oh full house there. Stop telling me what to think or who to fear. You are being coercive and incredibly insensitive at a time when hundreds of thousands of people are fleeing for their lives and are terrified. If you are getting all this from your conspiracy theory mag again, it's not helping.
Even I haven't heard hundreds of thousands, only thousands, and the photo from the MSM at the border showed about a hundred people. What I would like to know is what people in western Ukraine are actually thinking and not just shills for the western media. I am certainly not "getting all this from [your] conspiracy theory mag," but from many independent journalists. And they all have sources. I'm not calling you stupid, but when you make stupid comments, I'm not going to believe them.
Say his name. If Martin’s open letter to JK Rowling had been signed Martin Neeves instead of “Katie” Neeves, would it have had any credibility with anyone at all? No wonder they don’t want to be “dead-named”. There is a near magical power in naming. Say his name. The use of the original male name works like a sharp needle poked into the puffed up souffle of nonsense. (I'm enjoying this souffle metaphor.) Using the original "assigned at birth" male name is akin to slamming the oven door on a carefully constructed airy codswallop. Say his name. All will become clear.
Thank you Genevieve. His website states 'he spent nearly 50 years pretending to be male.'
He wasn't pretending, he was male, he is male, will always be male, and he is now pretending to be female. And he is 'in transition' apparently. I am becoming less and less empathetic to men (or women) choosing to twist every potential societal advantage to prop up their delusions and eke this out for as much attention as they can get for extra 'human' rights.
Sarah not only had to endure the AGP-fest at work, but she is also pursuing a case against her local rape crisis centre, because it does not have women-only support groups. Even though it has a specialist trans service, it allows transidentifying men to use a group for traumatised women. How much should a woman who's experienced male violence and exertion of power have to endure? She is an amazing woman.https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10249633/Rape-victim-forced-quit-therapy-sessions-feels-threatened-6ft-trans-woman.html
Beyond that, this guy has actually previously commented in a threatening way about Sarah herself as a result of that case.
"If the conversation happens, I would love to be a fly on the wall. Better still, I would join you in educating her!"
https://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/4465791-tra-running-trans-awareness-training-at-work
Oh God, yes I forgot that. What a POS this man is. Her workplace is complicit in harassing her. The TRA world is so small, and so powerful, and so much of it seems to be centred in one part of the country
This person got booked for international women’s day where I used to work. Talking about their/his journey to “womanhood”. Not sure Maya Forstator’s case had been finalised at the time so no one felt they could say anything. They would probably be appalled to read this article- at the time they were being trained by Stonewall and half heartedly practicing “trans women are women” mantra. I would say they were pretending to go along with it to look good 😂 and to appease younger workers. Part of me hopes they read this and feel embarrassed. The other half is a bit sad they were so easily convinced this was a good idea.
Bloody hell. Just wow. This case has riled me more than I expected. It's the complete capture of so many UK employers and choosing that day of all days is such a two fingers up to all women. No women about was there? Can't remember the last training session I completed where a woman talked about dressing up in her sibling's knickers but I'm sure we can work it in somewhere, seeing as it's such vital life-saving information to impart. How do I apply that 'learning' in any potential job role? Ask my male employees about their fetishes and hold a suitable head tilt while I coo, nod and gently hold their elbow in a supportive manner?
Employers like that remind me of that scientific experiment where people were supposedly electrocuting others because someone in a white coat ( stonewall) told them to do it.
You’re right though - it felt a bit like not being invited to your own party while someone pretending to be you unwrapped all your birthday presents
It's the Milgram experiments on obedience. They've since been replicated and the results were the same.
Where I work, International Womens Day is being celebrated with a series of talks among the talks is one on gender and being inclusive and one being given by the Pride network on being part of the LGBTQ+ community. Women can't even have one day about them without it including men in one form or another.
That is awful and so bloody rude!
He's not very smart, is he? He thinks taking oestrogen will revert his baldness? Once it's gone, it's gone forever, mate. Those follicles have gone and won't come back. That's like expecting a severed hand to regrow.
All of us women who also suffer from inherited, progressive baldness would be delighted if we could pop a few hormone pills to "bring it back".
Ar*e hole.
I can't believe fetishists like this are given a platform!
I suppose human sexuality is an exuberant sort of thing that has long had its excesses and oddities. What's new is expressing them publicly and elevating them to the status of an identity. What's baffling is why anyone would confuse this particular oddity with actual women actually being women. And why anyone would pay £63.22 for the privilege of undergoing such a confusion process.
Neeves says: “When you’re talking about a trans person, please don’t say they were ‘born a boy’, or ‘born a girl.' Please acknowledge that we weren’t born with that label, we were given it. It’s much better to say they were ‘assigned male’ or ‘assigned female’ at birth.”
My answer:
“No. I WILL continue to say you were born a boy. I will NOT acknowledge that you were ‘labeled’ male at birth. You were NOT ‘assigned’ male at birth. You were male at conception, you are male now, and you will die a male.
“In short, no thank you.”
If he had really been a woman why did he need a woman to become a parent? 😂
Predator is the only word to describe him. No wonder his marriage broke up. I've seen some heartbreaking stories on YouTube from the ex wives of cross dressing men , otherwise known as " trans " widows and some of them are really shocking