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Susan Doherty's avatar

Words fail me in describing the absolute disgust I feel at the attitude and " beliefs" of these transactivists and their facilitators !! This whole " ideology " is a Utopia for paedophiles ,predators ,misogynistic and entitled HETEROSEXUAL Men !! I am 74 ,a mother ,grandmother ,and great grand mother and this is the absolute WORST MISOGYNY I have ever seen in my life !! Women comprise 50% of the global population ,and are THE most essential component for human reproduction ,without whom none of us would exist ,including all of these violent and even sociopathic individuals who attack women so blatantly and get protected and even applauded by the world's WOKE Media while the Government turns a blind eye !! What would their MOTHERS say ?

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Chris Baumgarten's avatar

I don't remember any time when it was OK among progressive people to tell a woman who had just been grossly harassed that it's all her fault and she better shut up. Until trans ideology kicked in.

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Felicity's avatar

Exactly and one could use a knee forcefully if required. This modern version is nasty.

Derek Trotter's avatar

That's nothing! It has turned a one-time hardened cynic* of feminism into a full-blown ally.

May or may not be referring to myself 😜

Regan Music's avatar

It's weird. I regret how I grew up thinking feminism was unnecessary and possibly misandric. Really, I took no interest until 2017-2018 when suddenly feminism was saying #AllMen (are rapists). I spent my whole life not really too phased, but that got my attention. That was my first time ever learning of the term "Social Justice Warrior" which intrigued me enough to explore that rabbit hole, and what I found was not feminism at all.

Now, only a few years later, I am only more convinced that it wasn't. It calls itself that. If I didn't think feminism was important before, I definitely do now. This is kicking women closer to the edge of a cliff. Fauxfeminism has made a feminist of me.

Mórrígan's avatar

Real feminism- which fought the deep discrimination against and sexual objectification of and violence against women- go coopted by corporate branding and consumerism beginning in the 80's and 90's. So-called "liberal? or "3rd wave" feminism is actually an anti-feminist movement that claims rape is enjoyable if women find it "empowering" (a word that in the context in which they use it means its opposite), and which has groomed generations of young women into accepting and celebrating their own oppression. This is also, of course, why it's popular with men.

Considering the misogyny and male-centering of the liberal feminist movement, it's no surprise the same women have jumped enthusiastically on board the trans train.

Feminism, however, is neither unnecessary nor misandric. Our society is deeply, deeply misogynistic, and the vast majority of all people- men and women- harbor quite a lot of sexism, both overt and covert, conscious and unconscious. The world is a really dangerous place for women, and any women who haven't had those experiences are usually women who lucked out in finding a nice guy when they were young, and didn't have to spend much time single or independent, having to deal with men in positions of power over them, or having to deal with the majority of men in social life and the dating scene, as a single woman.

Apart from that highly specific scenario, in which a woman partners with a man, thereby receiving his social protection- one which entirely suits patriarchy, and in fact is what its misogyny is designed to encourage (the patriarchal "protection racket")- I cannot imagine how any woman would not realize how misogynistic this society is. It's incredibly dangerous, demoralizing and demeaning just to exist as a woman in this world.

Felicity's avatar

Yes this attitude is what put me off feminism. Though I will say I kept looking further back at the Suffragists and Suffragettes and thinking...why aren't the modern feminists sensible like those?

Felicity's avatar

Same here....or at least, am wanting to take back the true meaning of feminism not the one that advocates for centering the small but very vocal group of narcissistic toxic males.

Shacklit's avatar

Me neither. I feel so sad for young women and girls having to cope with this toxic environment. At least I remember better times (the 80s).

Good Reason's avatar

Devastating writeup you've put together here. Honestly, historians will be using your posts to recreate the insanity of this time period . . .

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Shacklit's avatar

It's a brilliant take-down, JL. Thank you for being in the trenches - it's so horrible I almost can't stand to read it.

Toni's avatar

It just makes me despair sometimes. How has this damaging and dangerous ideology become so ingrained so quickly?

Bin Chicken's avatar

It tapped into a deep well of simmering misogyny and gave it a socially acceptable outlet.

Shacklit's avatar

I think you're right. Women have been struggling for two hundred years for the most basic rights and haven't progressed as far as trans people in a fraction of the time. People say it's the money, but I'm not sure it's just about well-placed individuals backed by generous funding. It is normally very very difficult and agonizingly slow to get laws changed, yet this is happening at lightning speed. It's like our entire society has got the green light to indulge all its pent-up misogyny.

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Chris Baumgarten's avatar

#Metoo was about not looking the other way. It has made it socially unacceptable to tell the victim of a sexual assault to never mind. Trans ideology is a very socially acceptably way to again blame the victim. Had only Harvey Weinstein possessed the sense to say that he identified as a woman.

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the methodology these men and their allies use to further their claims and careers has been to piggy back onto a vulnerable 'host' and squeeze out their lifeblood like some parasitic worm. i'm thinking in particular of the rise (2002/3 ish ) and v quick fall of the intersex movement in the usa, that after some interest in academia argued for the intersex individuals who had been adjusted surgically as infants to fit in with medical perceptions of the correct size/shape for female or male children (it might be useful to read about the notorious work of john money if you want to know more). hijacked and trodden on by trans arguments the questions this intersex movement raised about the rights and wrongs of medical intervention have virtually been squashed. i worry about the black feminists who the trans movement is now piggybacking on, using the 'intersectional' feminists differences of opinion in feminist thought, to demonise the groundbreaking findings of seventies feminists such as mary daly. daly (a mentor to janice raymond) is ignored by the *academic* transdocument- 'terf wars' -(2020) that sets out their attempt at an argument

TERF wars: An introduction

Ruth Pearce, Sonja Erikainen, Ben VincentFirst Published August 10, 2020 Research Article

https://doi.org/10.1177/0038026120934713

text at

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/0038026120934713

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Susan Siens's avatar

And that judgment is peanuts compared to the money they made.

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Chris Baumgarten's avatar

I sure hope you're right. At any rate, I'll do what I can to do my bit. Neutrality in this cause is treason.

Derek Trotter's avatar

In a nutshell: Trans right activists (read sociopaths) are defending the 'right' for grown men to flash their dicks at minors.

Rainy's avatar

Brilliant as ever. Thank you for everything you do. As you say this has got nothing to do with trans rights and everything to do with female subjugation. Just a shame so many women are brainwashed into going along with their own oppression.

Lizzie's avatar

I feel politics are almost irrelevant at this point. As Glinner pointed out before, more than anything else this is about safeguarding. Legal and moral Safeguards against medical malpractice, domestic violence, sexual predators, child abuse and body dissociation are being dismantled one by one… nothing is standing in the way of those who wish to do harm.

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How can Penny and Paisley be so naive about male violence? (note, I don't think they're *really* naive - they're just doubling down on the crazy) but those comments deny that statistically, male bodies are a threat. In UK law, only a man can rape. Nearly all domestic violence is male on female. Most paedophiles are male.

Men looking after ill mothers or mothers bathing with children is not the same as an invasion of a same-sex facility and shouldn't be in the argument at all. If it was naked fathers bathing alone with daughters, that would be creepy, but he'd probably support that in the name of trans too.

Safeguarding is not to do with superiority but to do with statistics. Penny is either insane or intellectually subnormal.

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To be honest, the first thing that came to mind when I read Paisley's comment was: OK, I was beaten around as a child, so why should anything be wrong with slapping you around? It is utterly disgusting how anyone can tell a victim of - in that case - sexual harassment to shut the f..k up, and it's made even worse by his what he thinks of as an appeal to common sense.

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Avam's avatar

That last bit made me proper guffaw!

Susan Siens's avatar

I like "as thick as two planks, and that's insulting the planks."

Derek Trotter's avatar

The Wi Spa tweet has had its account suspended. Quelle fucking surprise!

Lizzy's avatar

I am in my 60’s. Growing up it was common knowledge among children & adults that men exposing genitals to children was a crime, the police we’re called, & the perpetrator caught & punished. It’s the sexual abuse of children. This is basic & has always been this way. Now because of trans ideology we are all supposed to accept this & act like it is normal? How can a society, including media, institutions, & political legislators fall so far away from basic common sense & understanding when it comes to the safeguarding of children? It is sickening. A sickness, & quite frightening.

I just don’t understand. I am struggling just to trust in anything anymore.

William A. Ferguson's avatar

I think we of the Gender Critical Left who are utterly repulsed by Right Wing ideology should have a Tea Party movement of our own.

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Susan Siens's avatar

Especially a tea party! Are those in the U.K. aware of the hilariousness around the right-wing Tea Party? People called them teabaggers, which at first they accepted until they found out it referred to one gay man sucking on the testicles of another gay man.

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I am in my 60’s. Growing up it was common knowledge among children & adults that men exposing genitals to children was a crime, the police we’re called, & the perpetrator caught & punished. It’s the sexual abuse of children. This is basic & has always been this way. Now because of trans ideology we are all supposed to accept this & act like it is normal? How can a society, including media, institutions, & political legislators fall so far away from basic common sense & understanding when it comes to the safeguarding of children? It is sickening. A sickness, & quite frightening.

I just don’t understand. I am struggling just to trust in anything anymore.

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Lizzy's avatar

Thank you JL. I have to believe you are right. But it will be a fight won’t it, & how many girls & women will be traumatized & hurt in the process? Your words of encouragement made me smile for the 1st time today & I felt hope. 💖

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Shacklit's avatar

I really hope so. I think it might also need a few successful class action lawsuits brought by detransitioners who've been mutilated and sterilized by this horrible ideology.

Dave M's avatar

The link to the first Twitter video shows that the account has been suspended, funnily enough. They can't have people telling the truth, can they?

Louise M. Allcock's avatar

The police officer who has admitted raping and murdering the young lady, Sarah Everard, on Clapham Common was a flasher before he was a murderer. They build up from flashing, they get off on flashing. Who are these morons saying 'it is just genitals'? They are being purposely blind to the threat. Maybe you could forgive children who have lived nothing, read nothing, watched nothing...no even an 18 year old must be being purposely blind.

CatalepticOnion's avatar

Anti fascists behaving exactly like fascists

IWantToBeCalledLoretta's avatar

It's a running theme.

Feminism that includes males.

Men with penises can be lesbians.

Sex is a social construct.

Lies are truth.

Be "kind" while I say I hope you get raped/killed etc.

Susan Siens's avatar

I've been reading about their misogynistic crap for quite a while, but during the Black Lives Matter protests I came to think of them as agents provocateurs. It is not in "the left" 's interest to harass Trump supporters or throw projectiles, but it is certainly in the interest of both government and the elite to smear anyone attempting social change and how better to do it than seeing supposed antifascists behaving as fascists? I don't think these dudes (and a few dudettes) have any political analysis or philosophy, they just want to beat other people up and preferably get paid for doing so.

IWantToBeCalledLoretta's avatar

They should just call it for-men-ism and be done with it.

Susan Siens's avatar

I call it masculinism.