my MP who is SNP Chris Stephens today. I let him have this whole shitshow with both barrels. His summary of the problem “there has been name calling on both sides”. Dear God as if this is all about a mild difference of opinion. I think by the time he left he was under no illusions it was a bit more than that. Has the SNP no brains at all apart from Joanna Cherry?
In Men's World, yes. The entire system under which we live -- patriarchal religion in particular -- is designed to allow males unfettered sexual access to women and children. And just because people reject religion doesn't mean its ethos hasn't permeated their very being.
Men entering certain professions, deliberately, in order to target, groom and abuse children - Care Homes / Scouts / Charities / Coaching / Teaching / - the list is endless, isn't it. Horrific, in fact. I wonder how this oblivious, privileged woman has managed to miss these glaring and all too frequent abuses by men for the past 50-odd years? It's just going to have to remain a mystery, I suppose.
Stupid Shona did say there's no evidence that men had ever 'had to pretend they're something they're not' in order to abuse. These men probably didn't actually HAVE to pretend, but they certainly chose to do that. Most could probably have just overpowered their victims. I'm told they get off on this whole pretence thing, it heightens the 'fun' of their game, they get real pleasure from it. If they train for the priesthood or as a teacher or whatever they get other things too - respect, money, a place in society ... They're worse than the opportunist who kidnaps off the street, bad though they are.
I despair of Scotland but let's not forget their education standards have been dropping disastrously for some time now. We can see the results in Nicola & Shona. Don't get me started on Humza Yussef.
Yes. Easier when all young people are being encouraged to believe anything anyone tells them and to 'be nice' as anything else, any doubt, asking any questions, is 'hate'.
Easy when we are told to override our instincts, not learn what they are, squash them down and that our instincts are 'wrong' and not 'inclusive'. Easy when we are taught not to challenge, and ignore what our eyes and ears tell us. For many of us we cannot relax - or can only trust to be able to relax and stop being hypervigilant in a few places. They are becoming fewer and fewer.
Very important comment. Very important that parents not do this to their children. Allow them to see what they see, hear what they hear, and experience what they experience; so much evil occurs when children are taught to ignore what they sense.
Thank you for listing these. It's not a one off trip on the pavement it's the SNP and wider refusal to look at the pavement despite others pointing out there's a trip hazard and them refusing to see, saying there is no hazard and blaming and accusing those talking about it of hate.
How will Shona deny this evidence? Has she made a public apology or will it take Judge Kelly to point it out to her. Wonder what proportion of the true scale it is. I/we have always known of these behaviours but seeing them laid out like this is still shocking. How many are so similar, and I thought I'd heard about, but oh no, it's just almost word for word like so many before. Even more. There is always discussion about how much detail should be revealed in the press as there may be copycats. Looking at the dates it chills me to think any man knew of Sarah Everard's murder and thought, oh that's how I could try it out myself (if they weren't already trying). Whereas (most I hope and had assumed?) others felt shock and revulsion, enough other men though it was a guide for them to give it a go. Not reading the room and I wonder what or who would ever stop them. When some have their 'rights' constrained they react even worse.
Perhaps increasing the numbers of plain clothes officers to catch their colleagues or men in the general population at it. Admitting it happens, how many reports are overlooked for how many years. All the insistence that it's 'a few bad apples' means we're ignoring how many men are at it. In or out of any uniform it's the same behaviour. Wayne Couzens was clearly an outlier, but reflecting such common attitudes and motivations. He got the opportunity to capitalise on those motivations. Let's not give more men the opportunity to. And address how they think the way they do in the first place.
What is the difference between 'posing as' and 'self-identifying' as Shona? Can she answer Judge Kelly, "Why do men think this is okay?"
Really well put - I want answers as well. It's odd I talked to my sister - nurse - and she completely agree about single sex spaces in hospitals etc, "it's just common sense" but my doctor friend had weird ideas "I don't believe in overly protecting women and girls, encourage men to be better"
I don't understand why some women are thinking like this. It baffles me.
As if the problem really is just that women don’t have a high enough collective opinion of men. Sounds to me like the same old blame the targets of the predators instead of the predators themselves. Shameful. 🤮🤬
You're so right -- Shona Robison should resign. A complete list of “evidence that predatory and abusive men have ever had to pretend to be anything else to carry out abusive and predatory behaviour” would take a long, long time to compile.
Don't forget the fragrant Jacinta https://metro.co.uk/2018/10/01/trans-woman-41-pretended-to-be-a-boy-to-groom-a-girl-7994533/
I had an electioneering visit from
my MP who is SNP Chris Stephens today. I let him have this whole shitshow with both barrels. His summary of the problem “there has been name calling on both sides”. Dear God as if this is all about a mild difference of opinion. I think by the time he left he was under no illusions it was a bit more than that. Has the SNP no brains at all apart from Joanna Cherry?
What planet are they from? Name calling? Attempted sexual assault and actual rape and murder is 'name calling' now?
In Men's World, yes. The entire system under which we live -- patriarchal religion in particular -- is designed to allow males unfettered sexual access to women and children. And just because people reject religion doesn't mean its ethos hasn't permeated their very being.
My MP too - glad you gave him a mighty piece of your mind. So proud of you 😊💖
Glad to hear he went away with a flea in his ear.It will give him pause and make it harder to keep it all beyond cognition for convenience.Well done!
The whole grooming process is predicated upon pretence
Pretending to be a woman is becoming the easiest - thinking someone should send her Mr Menno’s “In the Ladies”
Men entering certain professions, deliberately, in order to target, groom and abuse children - Care Homes / Scouts / Charities / Coaching / Teaching / - the list is endless, isn't it. Horrific, in fact. I wonder how this oblivious, privileged woman has managed to miss these glaring and all too frequent abuses by men for the past 50-odd years? It's just going to have to remain a mystery, I suppose.
I've shared with 'her', nae bother. I expect a block 🚫 👍🏾
Brilliant! :)
Well done getting that together so quickly. I’ve shared it with shona 👍
I think she's getting multiple copies. She can paper her walls with them 📃📃📃👍
It’s gotta be tough to chose amongst an ocean of evidence.
Me too
And many more instances of grooming by men, all "wolves in sheep's clothing".
A lot like my trans ex-husband......
Terrifying isn’t it.
Brilliant! This definitely has to be shared far and wide!
Stupid Shona did say there's no evidence that men had ever 'had to pretend they're something they're not' in order to abuse. These men probably didn't actually HAVE to pretend, but they certainly chose to do that. Most could probably have just overpowered their victims. I'm told they get off on this whole pretence thing, it heightens the 'fun' of their game, they get real pleasure from it. If they train for the priesthood or as a teacher or whatever they get other things too - respect, money, a place in society ... They're worse than the opportunist who kidnaps off the street, bad though they are.
I despair of Scotland but let's not forget their education standards have been dropping disastrously for some time now. We can see the results in Nicola & Shona. Don't get me started on Humza Yussef.
It’s easier to strike in women’s spaces if people aren’t immediately sounding the alarm every time you enter or exit.
Easier to escape if cops won’t give the public an accurate description.
Easier sentences when you are caught and punished.
Easier access to more female victims who can’t get away.
Yes. Easier when all young people are being encouraged to believe anything anyone tells them and to 'be nice' as anything else, any doubt, asking any questions, is 'hate'.
Easy when we are told to override our instincts, not learn what they are, squash them down and that our instincts are 'wrong' and not 'inclusive'. Easy when we are taught not to challenge, and ignore what our eyes and ears tell us. For many of us we cannot relax - or can only trust to be able to relax and stop being hypervigilant in a few places. They are becoming fewer and fewer.
Very important comment. Very important that parents not do this to their children. Allow them to see what they see, hear what they hear, and experience what they experience; so much evil occurs when children are taught to ignore what they sense.
Particularly when told to keep things a secret. Don’t tell your parents is the biggest 🚩
But whty can't these appalling women who support these men see it?
Yeah ,rape culture is what it is 😭👎
Thank you for listing these. It's not a one off trip on the pavement it's the SNP and wider refusal to look at the pavement despite others pointing out there's a trip hazard and them refusing to see, saying there is no hazard and blaming and accusing those talking about it of hate.
How will Shona deny this evidence? Has she made a public apology or will it take Judge Kelly to point it out to her. Wonder what proportion of the true scale it is. I/we have always known of these behaviours but seeing them laid out like this is still shocking. How many are so similar, and I thought I'd heard about, but oh no, it's just almost word for word like so many before. Even more. There is always discussion about how much detail should be revealed in the press as there may be copycats. Looking at the dates it chills me to think any man knew of Sarah Everard's murder and thought, oh that's how I could try it out myself (if they weren't already trying). Whereas (most I hope and had assumed?) others felt shock and revulsion, enough other men though it was a guide for them to give it a go. Not reading the room and I wonder what or who would ever stop them. When some have their 'rights' constrained they react even worse.
Perhaps increasing the numbers of plain clothes officers to catch their colleagues or men in the general population at it. Admitting it happens, how many reports are overlooked for how many years. All the insistence that it's 'a few bad apples' means we're ignoring how many men are at it. In or out of any uniform it's the same behaviour. Wayne Couzens was clearly an outlier, but reflecting such common attitudes and motivations. He got the opportunity to capitalise on those motivations. Let's not give more men the opportunity to. And address how they think the way they do in the first place.
What is the difference between 'posing as' and 'self-identifying' as Shona? Can she answer Judge Kelly, "Why do men think this is okay?"
Really well put - I want answers as well. It's odd I talked to my sister - nurse - and she completely agree about single sex spaces in hospitals etc, "it's just common sense" but my doctor friend had weird ideas "I don't believe in overly protecting women and girls, encourage men to be better"
I don't understand why some women are thinking like this. It baffles me.
Yeah, encourage men to be better but don't throw women's safety under a bus in the meantime
As if the problem really is just that women don’t have a high enough collective opinion of men. Sounds to me like the same old blame the targets of the predators instead of the predators themselves. Shameful. 🤮🤬
Exactly - wasn't impressed :(
Not all Shona's are like this!
This is another one, he used a high vis vest to make it look like he was official and helping her:
https://www.mylondon.news/news/north-london-news/predatory-man-pretended-help-woman-22538858
You're so right -- Shona Robison should resign. A complete list of “evidence that predatory and abusive men have ever had to pretend to be anything else to carry out abusive and predatory behaviour” would take a long, long time to compile.
On 10 change attention to intention.