I want Laurie Penny to explain under oath why she thinks she has the right to speak to people like this. I’ve blurred the defamatory remarks she chose to repeat and re-emphasise in her ‘apology.’ While I would like to thank Laurie for having the grace to delete the tweet, I await her apology for her defamatory remarks.
I've just broken my Twitter moratorium to reply to LP. Absolutely outrageous. I've subscribed to the New Statesman for years, and I've got pretty wide parameters on what constitutes free speech and fair comment, but this really pushed me to intervene.
Isn’t it remarkable how people like Laurie Penny place themselves on some moral high ground. Didn’t she recently accuse the women at Wi Spa of lying, in favour of supporting a sex offender?
Stand your ground Graham. EVERY SINGLE PERSON I have spoken to about this transgender bollocks agrees with the GC stance. Every single one, and I've spoken to a lot of people about it over the past year or so. You have given me the strength to do this as I would normally not engage in anything controversial for fear of saying the wrong thing.
Make them all accountable. Stand your ground. Everybody is behind you. You are amazing x
Don't think she's got it in her to apologise meaningfully Graham, she's too invested in maintaining her TRA credentials. She's also getting supportive twitter responses from the usual fuckwit suspects, so that will be feeding her to face this out, though it looks like a front to me, she's nervous. Her derogatory comments about you are being called out very effectively- she's getting ratio'd up the wazoo by allies coming to your defence.
A couple of months ago, Penny came *very* close to admitting to Helen that she didn't really believe the gender nonsense but was too frightened to admit it. Frightened, that is, of the violence that gender identity extremists would do to her career not (presumably) to her person.
Rather than do the decent thing and work up some courage for her convictions or walk away from the debate altogether (too late to do that without consequences, it would be seen as punishable apostasy by GIEs) she chose to double down. We know why: she likes popularity and is willing to sell anyone else's career and the safety of women and children to get it.
This sort of attack is inevitable, now. She has no arguments because there are none. People like Helen have been running rings around her on Twitter, outclassing her in logic, knowledge, understanding and compassion. To keep the likes flooding in and the wolf (and the mob) from the door, this is what she thinks she needs to do.
If she'd removed the original tweet with a proper apology, then I might have had a little sympathy.
Of course, that was before I saw her substack.
The only difference between Penny and dozens of other liars with a platform out there is that we have excellent reason to believe that Penny is lying rather than deluded, as her tweets to Helen show.
I'm sorry this is happening to you, Graham. Know that you have a lot of support, that Penny's motives and lack of ability have been laid bare and that attacks like this are the result of flailing desperation, not any kind of coup de grâce.
I posted our conversation about living with an abusive AGP under her latest. It felt a bit "look at me look at me!" but people really do need to consider women suffering at the hands of the men she panders to so feck it. she's a disgrace.
These TRA's are no different from Scientologists in the tactics they use to ruin people's livelihoods. I hope Graham fighting back with legal action will make people like Laurie Penny and Wendy Lyon et al think twice about defaming him.
I did a deep dive into Grace Lavery last night (not a sentence I thought I’d ever say), and boy oh boy (pun intended), “she” has got to be one of the most misogynistic trans women yet…it’s such a joke Lavery is teaching at Berkeley. I feel so sorry for his poor students, there to get a top-of-the-line education, and they end up with this smug, narcissistic schmuck.
I feel quite sorry for Daniel/Mallory. It seems like an abusive relationship to me, to be honest. Joe/Grace completely took over her life and subsumed her. He reeled her in as Joe- this was only a few years ago- then transitioned, and she followed suit shortly thereafter (they quite literally said this was to avoid being boring straights, although they phrased it in far more twee verbiage). This is quite typical of a narc preying on a vulnerable victim, usually a person with low self-esteem.
I have to say that my own brush with a narcissist is what has made me more aware of the current of narcissism that runs through so many prominent AGPs and TRAs. I don’t mean a narcissist like the buzz word it’s become popular for people to use, I mean a self-obsessed liar with a fake persona who uses and manipulates others, and gets criminally (often sexually abusively) nasty when crossed, or just for fun and to satisfy the ego…I unfortunately went down the rabbit hole, and found some Tweets and messages from Lavery (the two of them are totally open about their sex lives online, so it’s no secret) which indicate that he’s essentially roped Daniel into a dom (though he no doubt would say domme)/sub relationship in which he pimps her out for shits and giggles…he has several posts about how he set out to “Yoko” her (meaning isolate her and destroy her previous career as Mallory, which he makes clear in the posts), as well as posts about their sadomasochistic activities, and letting his friends “take a ride.”
I know she’s on board with all this as part of her fun kinky lifestyle, but it’s also desperately sad. Her own vapidness, or perhaps loss of her sense of self, is clear in her dissolving relationship with her best friend and benefactor, Nicole; she forgets she has a newborn baby (who forgets that about a best friend who has been in frequent communication, not to mention bankrolling you, for years?) She jokes about knowing nothing of her bff’s life, especially since taking up with Grace.
Meanwhile, Grace proudly proclaims it was his idea to cut off Daniel’s whole family for essentially no reason, except that maybe they had a few questions about why their formerly soft butch lesbian (of which they were accepting) daughter with no known dysphoria suddenly after meeting this charismatic individual who transitioned himself a year after their whirlwind romance decided she was trans, got a double mastectomy and began taking testosterone…having some worries about their young daughter marrying an older man thrice divorced is understandable. Telling her to cut them out of her life is clear abuser behavior, isolating her from her loved ones and moving her across country, where they couldn’t see her.
The whole thing just gives me the willies. Lavery’s photos are unbearably precious and simpering, just the height of narcissistic preening, and Daniel looks sad and desperate for cool points, attention or love, like a sad, down on her luck, eager to please little puppy. I know that sounds mean, but that’s how I see it when I see photos of the two them, on their own or together (on their own especially; she appears happier when they’re together, he appears as snide and smirking as ever, as if she should worship the ground the the walks on). My guess is he was jealous of her minor celebrity in the feminist and writing world before, but he pretended to be an admirer, in order to reel her in and crush her. Now she’s just another prop, a plaything, to him.
She also Tweeted adoringly about how he was “drifting” during sex (on their wedding night!) because he couldn’t stop thinking about “trans misogyny.”
She’s just attacked Helen from behind a block. She accused her of not respecting her “boundaries” but refers to anyone who objects to the removal of single sex spaces as bigots and transphobes. You could not make this shit up.
She also called you a "transphobic hatemonger" in her first substack article (which was, unsurprisingly, a waffling, poorly-written and logically offensive call for you to be banned).
Hi there, I work in TV myself, including on programmes that deal with this issue so the last thing I want is a public profile, but do make my opinions known on a more personal level… Having recently had a baby I’m terrified of what this sloblock might do to her, so finally putting in my two penneth here! Literally! You are a hero Graham. Baby’s aren’t cheap, but I’ll gladly throw a few Bob at this fight!!!
You have nothing to say sorry for, she does. So, let me try to understand this, LP set up a Substack with a focus on you, and the purpose of smearing you, where she continues to call you hateful things in her introductory post to it. That seems an odd thing to do and to think she'd be allowed to get away with it. It's a deliberate and targeted action by her. She is using more than one platform, so it's a campaign almost. This is strange. She is not free to attack you, or call for others to remove your platform and I wonder why she is deluded in thinking she is.
Keep your head up Graham, please don't let her or others grind you down.
I've just broken my Twitter moratorium to reply to LP. Absolutely outrageous. I've subscribed to the New Statesman for years, and I've got pretty wide parameters on what constitutes free speech and fair comment, but this really pushed me to intervene.
So, y'know, gimme a few ❤️s yeah...?
Isn’t it remarkable how people like Laurie Penny place themselves on some moral high ground. Didn’t she recently accuse the women at Wi Spa of lying, in favour of supporting a sex offender?
Stand your ground Graham. EVERY SINGLE PERSON I have spoken to about this transgender bollocks agrees with the GC stance. Every single one, and I've spoken to a lot of people about it over the past year or so. You have given me the strength to do this as I would normally not engage in anything controversial for fear of saying the wrong thing.
Make them all accountable. Stand your ground. Everybody is behind you. You are amazing x
Her “apology” was like a smug petulant teenager’s apology. This woman is 34. 🙄
Don't think she's got it in her to apologise meaningfully Graham, she's too invested in maintaining her TRA credentials. She's also getting supportive twitter responses from the usual fuckwit suspects, so that will be feeding her to face this out, though it looks like a front to me, she's nervous. Her derogatory comments about you are being called out very effectively- she's getting ratio'd up the wazoo by allies coming to your defence.
A couple of months ago, Penny came *very* close to admitting to Helen that she didn't really believe the gender nonsense but was too frightened to admit it. Frightened, that is, of the violence that gender identity extremists would do to her career not (presumably) to her person.
Rather than do the decent thing and work up some courage for her convictions or walk away from the debate altogether (too late to do that without consequences, it would be seen as punishable apostasy by GIEs) she chose to double down. We know why: she likes popularity and is willing to sell anyone else's career and the safety of women and children to get it.
This sort of attack is inevitable, now. She has no arguments because there are none. People like Helen have been running rings around her on Twitter, outclassing her in logic, knowledge, understanding and compassion. To keep the likes flooding in and the wolf (and the mob) from the door, this is what she thinks she needs to do.
If she'd removed the original tweet with a proper apology, then I might have had a little sympathy.
Of course, that was before I saw her substack.
The only difference between Penny and dozens of other liars with a platform out there is that we have excellent reason to believe that Penny is lying rather than deluded, as her tweets to Helen show.
I'm sorry this is happening to you, Graham. Know that you have a lot of support, that Penny's motives and lack of ability have been laid bare and that attacks like this are the result of flailing desperation, not any kind of coup de grâce.
I posted our conversation about living with an abusive AGP under her latest. It felt a bit "look at me look at me!" but people really do need to consider women suffering at the hands of the men she panders to so feck it. she's a disgrace.
These TRA's are no different from Scientologists in the tactics they use to ruin people's livelihoods. I hope Graham fighting back with legal action will make people like Laurie Penny and Wendy Lyon et al think twice about defaming him.
I did a deep dive into Grace Lavery last night (not a sentence I thought I’d ever say), and boy oh boy (pun intended), “she” has got to be one of the most misogynistic trans women yet…it’s such a joke Lavery is teaching at Berkeley. I feel so sorry for his poor students, there to get a top-of-the-line education, and they end up with this smug, narcissistic schmuck.
I feel quite sorry for Daniel/Mallory. It seems like an abusive relationship to me, to be honest. Joe/Grace completely took over her life and subsumed her. He reeled her in as Joe- this was only a few years ago- then transitioned, and she followed suit shortly thereafter (they quite literally said this was to avoid being boring straights, although they phrased it in far more twee verbiage). This is quite typical of a narc preying on a vulnerable victim, usually a person with low self-esteem.
I have to say that my own brush with a narcissist is what has made me more aware of the current of narcissism that runs through so many prominent AGPs and TRAs. I don’t mean a narcissist like the buzz word it’s become popular for people to use, I mean a self-obsessed liar with a fake persona who uses and manipulates others, and gets criminally (often sexually abusively) nasty when crossed, or just for fun and to satisfy the ego…I unfortunately went down the rabbit hole, and found some Tweets and messages from Lavery (the two of them are totally open about their sex lives online, so it’s no secret) which indicate that he’s essentially roped Daniel into a dom (though he no doubt would say domme)/sub relationship in which he pimps her out for shits and giggles…he has several posts about how he set out to “Yoko” her (meaning isolate her and destroy her previous career as Mallory, which he makes clear in the posts), as well as posts about their sadomasochistic activities, and letting his friends “take a ride.”
I know she’s on board with all this as part of her fun kinky lifestyle, but it’s also desperately sad. Her own vapidness, or perhaps loss of her sense of self, is clear in her dissolving relationship with her best friend and benefactor, Nicole; she forgets she has a newborn baby (who forgets that about a best friend who has been in frequent communication, not to mention bankrolling you, for years?) She jokes about knowing nothing of her bff’s life, especially since taking up with Grace.
Meanwhile, Grace proudly proclaims it was his idea to cut off Daniel’s whole family for essentially no reason, except that maybe they had a few questions about why their formerly soft butch lesbian (of which they were accepting) daughter with no known dysphoria suddenly after meeting this charismatic individual who transitioned himself a year after their whirlwind romance decided she was trans, got a double mastectomy and began taking testosterone…having some worries about their young daughter marrying an older man thrice divorced is understandable. Telling her to cut them out of her life is clear abuser behavior, isolating her from her loved ones and moving her across country, where they couldn’t see her.
The whole thing just gives me the willies. Lavery’s photos are unbearably precious and simpering, just the height of narcissistic preening, and Daniel looks sad and desperate for cool points, attention or love, like a sad, down on her luck, eager to please little puppy. I know that sounds mean, but that’s how I see it when I see photos of the two them, on their own or together (on their own especially; she appears happier when they’re together, he appears as snide and smirking as ever, as if she should worship the ground the the walks on). My guess is he was jealous of her minor celebrity in the feminist and writing world before, but he pretended to be an admirer, in order to reel her in and crush her. Now she’s just another prop, a plaything, to him.
She also Tweeted adoringly about how he was “drifting” during sex (on their wedding night!) because he couldn’t stop thinking about “trans misogyny.”
You just could not make this stuff up.
Oh, and he’s a shit scholar, to boot.
She’s just attacked Helen from behind a block. She accused her of not respecting her “boundaries” but refers to anyone who objects to the removal of single sex spaces as bigots and transphobes. You could not make this shit up.
Happy to contribute to a Crowdfund if you need it!
She also called you a "transphobic hatemonger" in her first substack article (which was, unsurprisingly, a waffling, poorly-written and logically offensive call for you to be banned).
Hi there, I work in TV myself, including on programmes that deal with this issue so the last thing I want is a public profile, but do make my opinions known on a more personal level… Having recently had a baby I’m terrified of what this sloblock might do to her, so finally putting in my two penneth here! Literally! You are a hero Graham. Baby’s aren’t cheap, but I’ll gladly throw a few Bob at this fight!!!
It was a childish apology. She is sacred of losing face...but is going to get burnt if she doesn't act like an adult.
Turns out The Glinner Update has many, many readers :-)
You have nothing to say sorry for, she does. So, let me try to understand this, LP set up a Substack with a focus on you, and the purpose of smearing you, where she continues to call you hateful things in her introductory post to it. That seems an odd thing to do and to think she'd be allowed to get away with it. It's a deliberate and targeted action by her. She is using more than one platform, so it's a campaign almost. This is strange. She is not free to attack you, or call for others to remove your platform and I wonder why she is deluded in thinking she is.
Keep your head up Graham, please don't let her or others grind you down.