I went with my solicitor and Sarah Vine KC to Westminster Magistrates Court on 21st Feb. I was astonished as the 2 barristers outlined a process of a 3 hours "Case Management Hearing" on 5th June at City of London MC in front of a Stipendiary magistrate ("District Judge"), to be followed by a 3 days, 3 days! substantive hearing on October 24-26th. The interplay of criminal and civil procedure was a "lawyers' playground"!! Two days later I had a Zoom call with the solicitor and Sarah Vine, who dropped news: "Oh, and by the way I will not be doing this Pro Bono anymore, as it is so complicated". Well, thanks a bunch. I thought about this. A few days later I dismissed both of them and I chased very very hard after Grant Deg, the Assistant Director for Legal Services for Hammersmith Council for a phone conversation. After 10 days I finally got through to him. Would he agree that I can display anything that has previously been published, EXCEPT nudity and scars? He mentioned a poster saying "Gender Identity is Insane". OK, I won't display that either. I said that latest ET cases all support the fact that it is legal to express GC views, I genuinely do not understand the term "transphobic" and I need guidance so that we can agree terminology. He agreed to write me a letter. That was on 13th March. It is now 23rd March, and I have received no letter. BUT I don't mind really. This is a "wack-a-mole" situation: I can change my display and wait for them to catch up. In the meantime I am getting stickers from Sex Matters and Adult Human Female added to my door from supporters - I did mention this to Mr Deg. He was interested. The Council has better things to do than chase pensioners for ASBOs (or equivalent!) and they don't want to waste money on legal fees. Pensioner: 1 Council 0
I do need a letter from the Council sometime soon. I have a balance of £900 still left with the solicitor and need to reallocate this to similar GC cases IF, but only IF the Council and I can agree a workable set of criteria. Watch this space. Thank you for your interest.
The latest ET case is Kevin Lister (@KevsTribulations on Twitter): https://www.gofundme.com/f/fight-transgender-madness-in-the-education-system. Please give him some money. He is fighting THREE cases: (1) with Bad Law Project he is seeking a JR against the Dept for Education about their useless "advisory" guidance on Trans in schools (2) his own unfair dismissal claim (3) challenging the vindictive removal of his DBS clearance which he needs to work as a teacher in any school. He is a very good man, like our Glinner.
Keep at it Una-Jane. I am so sorry; so you have decided to stop fighting it as the pro bono was dropped? I am not second-guessing your decision, I fully support you, and your response is very sensible, but am very sad that you can't access that process as yes, it is complicated by the nature of this field, so expertise to fight it and advocate for you is expensive. So as a result you are prevented as it's no longer pro bono. Meanwhile anonymous men remotely direct and pay children to self-abuse under their direction and influence and pay handsomely for it. And that gets a free pass.
I have not given in. Not at all: I have kept all my posters on my door! The Council seem to have no way to remove them. The legal process has ground to a halt for the time being, and it seems to be a stalemate because I started the required process, I discontinued it in order to talk directly to the Council and - I believe - they don't seem to know what they want to achieve. This happens in politics!
Of course, I'm not saying you have given in - very good to hear. I find legal processes totally bizarre as they seem to involve luck a lot of the time. Then you can pay for luck if you are...lucky I guess and it's fingers crossed the truth and justice happens. I've seen good outcomes happen from dropped cases as they've been taken up by others, or after other events but it can take a while. Glad you are calling their bluff.
Many of this is Councils or others acting outside their powers or being very heavy-handed in their often confused approach. I always hope there is a bigger authority to remind them of that :-)
Can't the Spanish police arrest her? Hasn't she committed an offence - prescribing puberty blockers which are banned in the UK?
Una , apologies if I’m wrong , but are you the lady who had posters in your window /door ?
Can you update us . I don’t do any sm so I’m not up to scratch
Again apologies if I’m wrong
Yes, Petal, I am the "(68 year old) pensioner" with posters on my door in one of the most visited tourist pathways in west London. My Crowdfunder is still up: https://democracythree.org/council-prosecuting-gender-critical-views.
I went with my solicitor and Sarah Vine KC to Westminster Magistrates Court on 21st Feb. I was astonished as the 2 barristers outlined a process of a 3 hours "Case Management Hearing" on 5th June at City of London MC in front of a Stipendiary magistrate ("District Judge"), to be followed by a 3 days, 3 days! substantive hearing on October 24-26th. The interplay of criminal and civil procedure was a "lawyers' playground"!! Two days later I had a Zoom call with the solicitor and Sarah Vine, who dropped news: "Oh, and by the way I will not be doing this Pro Bono anymore, as it is so complicated". Well, thanks a bunch. I thought about this. A few days later I dismissed both of them and I chased very very hard after Grant Deg, the Assistant Director for Legal Services for Hammersmith Council for a phone conversation. After 10 days I finally got through to him. Would he agree that I can display anything that has previously been published, EXCEPT nudity and scars? He mentioned a poster saying "Gender Identity is Insane". OK, I won't display that either. I said that latest ET cases all support the fact that it is legal to express GC views, I genuinely do not understand the term "transphobic" and I need guidance so that we can agree terminology. He agreed to write me a letter. That was on 13th March. It is now 23rd March, and I have received no letter. BUT I don't mind really. This is a "wack-a-mole" situation: I can change my display and wait for them to catch up. In the meantime I am getting stickers from Sex Matters and Adult Human Female added to my door from supporters - I did mention this to Mr Deg. He was interested. The Council has better things to do than chase pensioners for ASBOs (or equivalent!) and they don't want to waste money on legal fees. Pensioner: 1 Council 0
I do need a letter from the Council sometime soon. I have a balance of £900 still left with the solicitor and need to reallocate this to similar GC cases IF, but only IF the Council and I can agree a workable set of criteria. Watch this space. Thank you for your interest.
Hi Una , I do hope you continue to fight , I’m sure most of us here will help , thank you for the update , much of this crap is very much hidden x
The latest ET case is Kevin Lister (@KevsTribulations on Twitter): https://www.gofundme.com/f/fight-transgender-madness-in-the-education-system. Please give him some money. He is fighting THREE cases: (1) with Bad Law Project he is seeking a JR against the Dept for Education about their useless "advisory" guidance on Trans in schools (2) his own unfair dismissal claim (3) challenging the vindictive removal of his DBS clearance which he needs to work as a teacher in any school. He is a very good man, like our Glinner.
Thanks for the update Una. I know about this case too. Will donate.
Keep at it Una-Jane. I am so sorry; so you have decided to stop fighting it as the pro bono was dropped? I am not second-guessing your decision, I fully support you, and your response is very sensible, but am very sad that you can't access that process as yes, it is complicated by the nature of this field, so expertise to fight it and advocate for you is expensive. So as a result you are prevented as it's no longer pro bono. Meanwhile anonymous men remotely direct and pay children to self-abuse under their direction and influence and pay handsomely for it. And that gets a free pass.
I have not given in. Not at all: I have kept all my posters on my door! The Council seem to have no way to remove them. The legal process has ground to a halt for the time being, and it seems to be a stalemate because I started the required process, I discontinued it in order to talk directly to the Council and - I believe - they don't seem to know what they want to achieve. This happens in politics!
Of course, I'm not saying you have given in - very good to hear. I find legal processes totally bizarre as they seem to involve luck a lot of the time. Then you can pay for luck if you are...lucky I guess and it's fingers crossed the truth and justice happens. I've seen good outcomes happen from dropped cases as they've been taken up by others, or after other events but it can take a while. Glad you are calling their bluff.
Many of this is Councils or others acting outside their powers or being very heavy-handed in their often confused approach. I always hope there is a bigger authority to remind them of that :-)
I did donate and will do so again if necessary