"A group of young women are being forced to share a changing room with a man who exposes his penis to them and they’re barred from protesting". This used to be a crime. I still do not understand how people can tolerate it because it comes with the magic trans label: Not trans then you're a man and it's a crime. Trans - you're a woman and it's ok? It's a penis in a girls locker room. How cna some people not see this? How is this ok? The coach, and all those teachers grooming impressionable kids need putting away.
As for the police checking thinking. This is not an isolated case as we know. They took a book from Jenni's house too (in Newport) which appears to be checking her thinking. Orwell fortold this kind of thing but even he never could have imagined this level of craziness.
I am so fucking angry about this. It cannot go on. The people promoting and enabling this need a dose of what they are forcing women to go through. Utterly disgusting.
I agree, Nick. It makes me seethe hearing all the talk of "safe spaces" for "trans wimmin" but not a single thought is given for women and children by these enablers.
Exposing yourself to females is a crime. That's a crime. So unbelievably angry that a male is being allowed to do that anywhere. No matter what they think.
Crime!!
Those coaches should have dealt with that like adults and got that male disciplined. If I were the parents I'd get a law suit going about that pronto. So angry!
I have no idea why Brits are so obliging when it comes to police harassment. Jenni didn't stand a chance to do anything and there ought to be major protests on her behalf. Anyone else who has police officers showing up at their door trying to talk to them about perfectly legal behavior - tell them to f..k off in no uncertain terms.
Hi Chris. There is a protest on her behalf today and what is more Gwent police have been inundated with emails and messages on their Facebook page. The culture is different in the UK and we are mostly bought up to respect the police and believe that they are there to stop crime and bring criminals to justice as one of the emergency services. Sadly, as adults we are find that this isn't always true. With Stonewall having indoctrinated them, it's less true than ever and we see this manifest in turning up to people's houses to "check theitr thinking" because some TRA has complained that their feelings have been hurt. Our Home Secretary has said they should not be doing this and has called on them to stop and wipe clean the records they hold on people where they have recorded a non-crime hate incident. Still they pesist.
Have Irish people thought the U.K. police were fair and just? Have colonial immigrants thought the police were fair and just? Have Muslims thought the police were fair and just?
It disturbs me that people can only see the truth when it begins to happen to them. We all need to think about how other people see and experience what is not happening to us. Yet.
Hi Susan. I'm not sure what your point is but you seem angry at me? I'm not saying the police are "fair and just" and I never used those words. I was saying how we are bought up to think of them for the most part. Clearly some forces have a rotten core, but I also do not think all police are rotten apples either. I'm not getting into Irish or Muslim politics on here, but I'd say women were treated just as unfairly given the conviction rates for rapists and how theya re often not believed.
I did not mean to imply that you thought the police were fair and just, but many, many people do. I'm not at all angry with you and think you make excellent comments. But all too often people don't think about how others perceive institutions unless it hits home for them. You are absolutely right about how women are treated; police in the U.S. have tens of thousands of unexamined rape kits.
I watched a film titled After Innocence about men who were imprisoned wrongfully, and you know what they wanted? A national DNA registration system, which I do not believe we have today, and which we would have if women's issues were taken seriously.
Thanks Susan. I think sometimes I'm too used to being attacked on social media (latest one was because I dared to point out that Jim Steinman composed Bat of Hell and not Meat Loaf who was the performer and 8 different men piled on to tell me that of course they knew and then condescended to educate me about Meat Loaf) so sorry for misunderstanding. In the UK, we saw this attitude towards women with the Yorkshire Ripper cases. The assumed that all the women must have been prostitutes or asking for trouble if they were out on their own at night and discounted evidence that did not corroborate their theory. Their advice was for women to stay away from public spaces after dark which lead to the "Reclaim the Night" protests by women.
Personally I have had two bad expereinces with the police - once when myself and a friend were set upon and beaten up by two other men as teens . I was upset and tried to tell the police which way one of them ran off and was told to "shut up bitch". I was so shocked I've never forgotten it. The second was when I got separated from friends in town after a night out adn had no way to get home except to walk (about mifdnight). I was 18 and I saw two policemen and asked them for help becuase I was worried about getting home safely (it weas quite a walk) and was told to come back if I was attacked.
You are right, women's issues are not taken seriously at all. I was discussing this recently with an older male family member who remarked that it was easier for women to get over a rape than it was for a man to get over being wrongly imprisoned for being falsely accused (we were discussing the woeful rate of cases for rape being bought to trial). I was quite shocked and said why do you think that and he replied, that it was just a moment for the woman but it was years for the man and the loss of his reputation. It just goes to show how some men do not get how different sex is for women and how serious sexual assault is for us. The violation and mental trauma can be colossal and felt for the rest of their life and here it was being characterised as "just a moment". Women must be listened to when laws and policy affect women.
Attention, students of Harry Potter and the Philosopher’s Stone. Beware. Brace yourselves. This book, written by the “brightest witch of our age” might trigger empathy, joy, compassion. Careful now, you just might learn some ethical lessons along the way.
Ironically on the same day as that report in The Times, the Equality Network and Scottish Trans put out a statement condemning the EHRC for its lack on independence. Maybe quango means something else in Scotland.
The Times have published this in their corrections section:
"Our article “Police interview charity chief after tweet ending referrals to rape centre” (Jan 29) and subsequent articles reported that Police Scotland interviewed Nicola Murray, the head of the Brodie’s Trust domestic abuse support group, about a reported hate crime. The police have now confirmed she was not the subject of a complaint or investigation."
So what's going on here? Did someone impersonate the police? Did the police interview Murray despite her not being the subject of a complaint or investigation? Who is the man with ID in the middle photo from the Times original article above if he's not a police officer? Where did the photo come from?
Just posting this here too - KPSS have a crowdfunder not sure if you could include it in a round up JL? I had issues with mobile so used my laptop, have let KPPS know there might be an issue.
"A group of young women are being forced to share a changing room with a man who exposes his penis to them and they’re barred from protesting". This used to be a crime. I still do not understand how people can tolerate it because it comes with the magic trans label: Not trans then you're a man and it's a crime. Trans - you're a woman and it's ok? It's a penis in a girls locker room. How cna some people not see this? How is this ok? The coach, and all those teachers grooming impressionable kids need putting away.
As for the police checking thinking. This is not an isolated case as we know. They took a book from Jenni's house too (in Newport) which appears to be checking her thinking. Orwell fortold this kind of thing but even he never could have imagined this level of craziness.
I am so fucking angry about this. It cannot go on. The people promoting and enabling this need a dose of what they are forcing women to go through. Utterly disgusting.
I agree, Nick. It makes me seethe hearing all the talk of "safe spaces" for "trans wimmin" but not a single thought is given for women and children by these enablers.
Exposing yourself to females is a crime. That's a crime. So unbelievably angry that a male is being allowed to do that anywhere. No matter what they think.
Crime!!
Those coaches should have dealt with that like adults and got that male disciplined. If I were the parents I'd get a law suit going about that pronto. So angry!
I have no idea why Brits are so obliging when it comes to police harassment. Jenni didn't stand a chance to do anything and there ought to be major protests on her behalf. Anyone else who has police officers showing up at their door trying to talk to them about perfectly legal behavior - tell them to f..k off in no uncertain terms.
Hi Chris. There is a protest on her behalf today and what is more Gwent police have been inundated with emails and messages on their Facebook page. The culture is different in the UK and we are mostly bought up to respect the police and believe that they are there to stop crime and bring criminals to justice as one of the emergency services. Sadly, as adults we are find that this isn't always true. With Stonewall having indoctrinated them, it's less true than ever and we see this manifest in turning up to people's houses to "check theitr thinking" because some TRA has complained that their feelings have been hurt. Our Home Secretary has said they should not be doing this and has called on them to stop and wipe clean the records they hold on people where they have recorded a non-crime hate incident. Still they pesist.
Have Irish people thought the U.K. police were fair and just? Have colonial immigrants thought the police were fair and just? Have Muslims thought the police were fair and just?
It disturbs me that people can only see the truth when it begins to happen to them. We all need to think about how other people see and experience what is not happening to us. Yet.
Hi Susan. I'm not sure what your point is but you seem angry at me? I'm not saying the police are "fair and just" and I never used those words. I was saying how we are bought up to think of them for the most part. Clearly some forces have a rotten core, but I also do not think all police are rotten apples either. I'm not getting into Irish or Muslim politics on here, but I'd say women were treated just as unfairly given the conviction rates for rapists and how theya re often not believed.
I did not mean to imply that you thought the police were fair and just, but many, many people do. I'm not at all angry with you and think you make excellent comments. But all too often people don't think about how others perceive institutions unless it hits home for them. You are absolutely right about how women are treated; police in the U.S. have tens of thousands of unexamined rape kits.
I watched a film titled After Innocence about men who were imprisoned wrongfully, and you know what they wanted? A national DNA registration system, which I do not believe we have today, and which we would have if women's issues were taken seriously.
Thanks Susan. I think sometimes I'm too used to being attacked on social media (latest one was because I dared to point out that Jim Steinman composed Bat of Hell and not Meat Loaf who was the performer and 8 different men piled on to tell me that of course they knew and then condescended to educate me about Meat Loaf) so sorry for misunderstanding. In the UK, we saw this attitude towards women with the Yorkshire Ripper cases. The assumed that all the women must have been prostitutes or asking for trouble if they were out on their own at night and discounted evidence that did not corroborate their theory. Their advice was for women to stay away from public spaces after dark which lead to the "Reclaim the Night" protests by women.
Personally I have had two bad expereinces with the police - once when myself and a friend were set upon and beaten up by two other men as teens . I was upset and tried to tell the police which way one of them ran off and was told to "shut up bitch". I was so shocked I've never forgotten it. The second was when I got separated from friends in town after a night out adn had no way to get home except to walk (about mifdnight). I was 18 and I saw two policemen and asked them for help becuase I was worried about getting home safely (it weas quite a walk) and was told to come back if I was attacked.
You are right, women's issues are not taken seriously at all. I was discussing this recently with an older male family member who remarked that it was easier for women to get over a rape than it was for a man to get over being wrongly imprisoned for being falsely accused (we were discussing the woeful rate of cases for rape being bought to trial). I was quite shocked and said why do you think that and he replied, that it was just a moment for the woman but it was years for the man and the loss of his reputation. It just goes to show how some men do not get how different sex is for women and how serious sexual assault is for us. The violation and mental trauma can be colossal and felt for the rest of their life and here it was being characterised as "just a moment". Women must be listened to when laws and policy affect women.
Attention, students of Harry Potter and the Philosopher’s Stone. Beware. Brace yourselves. This book, written by the “brightest witch of our age” might trigger empathy, joy, compassion. Careful now, you just might learn some ethical lessons along the way.
And it is a children's book - not "young adults"! It is aimed at 8-year-olds.
Dirty stinking men with perversions … all those who agree with it are enablers. Like Epstein and Maxwell!
Woke people though will not call these perverts out … collaborators!
Ironically on the same day as that report in The Times, the Equality Network and Scottish Trans put out a statement condemning the EHRC for its lack on independence. Maybe quango means something else in Scotland.
It's a confused fruit, we feed them to haggis.
https://youtu.be/59kf86v_Cpc
Ah, how wonderful! Fabulous cartoon!
How can we continue to deny the harm, as a society? This is simply shameful.
Their plan is to sicken normal people so much that they walk away and leave decision making to the psychos.
The Times have published this in their corrections section:
"Our article “Police interview charity chief after tweet ending referrals to rape centre” (Jan 29) and subsequent articles reported that Police Scotland interviewed Nicola Murray, the head of the Brodie’s Trust domestic abuse support group, about a reported hate crime. The police have now confirmed she was not the subject of a complaint or investigation."
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/corrections-and-clarifications-5phnn0xh2
So what's going on here? Did someone impersonate the police? Did the police interview Murray despite her not being the subject of a complaint or investigation? Who is the man with ID in the middle photo from the Times original article above if he's not a police officer? Where did the photo come from?
Totally of subject but has anyone seen this?
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-10451689/Apple-adopts-latest-emoji-including-pregnant-MAN.html
Just posting this here too - KPSS have a crowdfunder not sure if you could include it in a round up JL? I had issues with mobile so used my laptop, have let KPPS know there might be an issue.
https://www.crowdfunder.co.uk/p/fighting-for-sex-based-rights-of-women-in-prison-1
*off not of