Fantastic work again JL. Depressing reading - this seems relentless and futile but this is the hill I will die on. I refuse to give in to bullies and an ideology that is so damaging and vile to my sex. I stand with all women and girls - even those throwing away themselves in this god awful fight. Never in my lifetime did I think I would see such regressive attitudes and witness such abhorrent treatment of women and our male allies. This has to stop. It has to. For sanity.
These MRA/TRA/PEADOS/kinks/AGP/rapists and pervs have a common theme regardless of how they identify. They are not hiding anymore. Not only that - they have an audience cheering them on and waving flags and fawning over them showering them with approval and enabling the most horrific elements of society.
The rot from within destroyed many empires and in 2021 history has taught us little. I only hope we are in time to save as many vulnerable kids as possible.
I’m so bereft that this insidious and sinister movement has been given so much power.
Thank you for your kind words, Victoria. I share your feelings but please do take heart & keep fighting because it is working; we are winning (There is a Good News Supplement on the way!) Best wishes xx
Not linked to the article above, but I'm subscribed to Waterstones email list and last week received Best Politics Books of 2021. 9 books were featured and one of them was Shon Faye's book. Neither Helen Joyce's, Julie Bindel's or Kathleen Stock's books were one of the 9 books blurbed in the email. When clicking on the full list there are 19 books discussed in the Race, Gender & Sexuality section, again none of these three books are mentioned.
That's me off Waterstones ,then. I bought most of those books ( not Shon Faye's ,lol) from Amazon ,which ,surprisingly ,still sells them.and they're all brilliantly written and backed up by science .👍👍Just bought Kara Dansky's recently published book. " The abolition of sex " and it arrived only a few days ago. I would highly recommend it. Great book !👍👍 Waterstones' sucking up to the tras is really disappointing. Hard to believe so many people have completely disengaged their brains on this issue !!👎👎
The old man in the retirement home is probably entirely in the right legally speaking, given the situation in the US. If you pass incoherent badly thought through legislation, you’re going to end up with a society that no longer functions in a rational way.
And, frankly, I wouldn't want to share a room with an old man even if I was an old man. There is a reason all our hospitals have gone to private rooms.
"They claim their client was discriminated against on the basis of gender identity, transgender status and sex, all of which are protected under the Maine Human Rights Act."
Yeah, I'd be willing to bet they have something similar to the Equality Act which has exemptions to those protected categories. Unless the home in question regularly has mixed sex sleeping arrangements (which I doubt), then the female resident can legally object. If they don't have those exemptions then she'll be forced to share that space with a male. Can't imagine many people would want their nana to be in that situation.
That's what gets me too - sex, once more is being conflated with gender. I really don't see how they are discriminated against based on sex. They are not female, they are male. If they were female to start with then they wouldn't be trans and there would be no issue, if they are male then they shouldn't be sharing a room with a female. What about her sex based rights and right to dignity? There is no-one these people won't throw under the bus it seems.
The people responsible for this ideogy and the ones imposing it have limitless contempt for women. They're even prepared to challenge the boundaries of women who are at the end of their lives.
I have a horrible feeling that the law may be on the side of the male and his legal team. (This being the states where they appear to have taken leave of their senses. And reality.)
The youth wing of Jolyon Maugham's Barmy Army are a cautionary example of ill conceived careers. There's a lot of it about - I've a nifty BBC news insider who's been relating examples of new recruits "ignorant youngsters who don't comprehend the basics such as difference between opinion and fact" for a few years.
Thanks once again ,JL.Seems like this horror is never ending. So now women are going to be fearful of needing nursing home care in case they have to share a room with a man. 😭😭 So disgusting and depressing that those in authority ,including all the institutions ,don't care anything at all for women's rights ,privacy and dignity ,even at the end of our lives !! They don't even care about children's safety ,even to the extent of irreversibly damaging their young bodies ,so how insane do these Stonewall Laws have to become before those in charge wake up and see this for what it is !!
That's the trouble isn't it? The ideology came as a wolf in sheep's clothing. Stonewall was an institution that people trusted and so they listened and now this awful ideology has taken hold because people in authority were either scared of being cancelled or called out and seen as a bigot, virtue signalling to show how much they aren't bigots or there was something in it for them. Women, children, homosexuals, intersex, other trans people who do not believe in the ideology, poorly and vulnerable people in hospital, and now the elderly are all thrown under the bus in the name of the ideology.
I know it seems bleak, Susan, but I truly believe that we are winning and that we WILL win. Sense will prevail. So please keep fighting and take heart. xx
I don't think they are going to wake up, they're protecting themselves, seemingly at any cost. It won't end until large numbers of people, not just those actively engaged in confronting this, stop being passive. Passivity is being treated as acceptance through fear. We need to be more afraid of outcome of the the abuses occurring now than the people responsible for the abuse.
Ultimately, they can only be as audacious and authoritarian as we allow them to be. Realistically, gender ideology based extremism has a limited lifespan in terms of what it can impose. Many people are still unaware of what's happening, they're adopting a live and let live approach, either because they're seeing vulnerability or something that has nothing to do with them. They aren't aware that they're talking about a group who want far more than that. They want to restrict and remove the freedoms and rights of others, particularly women and LGB people; they're in the process of doing it.
But what they're doing is going to increasingly felt by people who realise, regardless that they believed gender ideology didn't affect them, here they are being affected by it in ways they don't want. Misogynistic gender tyranny will eventually come to an end, but a lot of irreversible damage will have been done by then, so the process needs to be accelerated. It's not going to happen while the victims feel they have no choice but to collude with the abusers.
One more reason to avoid -- AT ALL COSTS -- going into a nursing facility. They feed you crap, they treat you like an idiot, you may be abused, and all I've ever done is visit a friend in one and what a horror show it was.
JL: There is a lot going on in the 'No Country For Old Women' segment that your readers are not likely to be aware of. I live in northern New England about two hours from Maine. Demographically, there are many similarities. Right off the bat, Mainers, like Vermonters, resent when southern New Englanders stick their noses in our business, no matter the position that they're representing - and from Boston, no less. It's a regional misstep of huge proportion. It's also a major political misstep.
I'll try to be brief here. Maine has a gubernatorial election in 2022. The current governor is running for re-election. She's a moderate like most Maine pols. Like Vermont, Maine has an Independent Senator. Both are rare ducks in Congress. Running against the incumbent guv is former governor Paul LePage. LePage and Mills, factoring in the margin for error, are virtually neck and neck at this stage, according to the September poll cited by 538polls.
LePage became guv in 2010, as the Maine was reeling from the 2008 Recession. He wasn't expected win. He had Tea Party support and a foul mouth. As he likes to say, he was Trump before Trump came along. When the NAACP expressed dismay at his unwillingness to meet with them, he publicly told the NAACP to "kiss (his) ass." He detests immigrants and holds a special hatred for refugees.
This is a made for the moment issue for a demagogue like LePage - people from an activist, nosey Parker Boston group trying to force elderly Maine women to be housed alone in a room with an adult human male, against their will. There's no question whether he'll try to ride this issue to the governor's mansion; the only real question is how many people will be peaked in northern New England.
In Maine, we call them Massholes and they are often deeply resented, particularly now that they are buying houses (in the event of another pandemic) and squeezing the local population out of the housing market. I have every intent of CALLING -- which gets more attention -- my senators' offices and complaining about this obscene lawsuit.
Regarding Mills and LePage, I have to seriously question whether I will vote for her again. He is absolutely disgusting and horrible, but she is only slightly better, a nice liberal veneer masking a corporate Democrat who vetoed a lot of good legislation (she vetoed a law against aerial spraying of Roundup!). And with her sticking up for trans, it does not bode well for her reelection. What many of us would like to see is a better candidate running against LePusque (for those not familiar with Quebecois pronunciation, that would be LePuke).
I refrained from using the term 'Massholes.' Mainers should decide what name fits these nosey Parkers. Talk about handing LePage a gift for the holidays and beyond. They've had the same impact on the housing market. They just simply outbid what the average Vermonter can afford and another housing unit is removed from the local market, leaving one more local family struggling to find a roof over their heads.
It's particularly bad here along the coast. They buy the properties then leave them sitting empty or charge absurd rents (and rents are already absurd enough). A Republican tried to pass legislation that would have charged higher property taxes for people who do not live in their houses at least 180 days a year; I assume the Democrats were opposed to that because I never heard an update.
From the wonderful JL: "For those unable to hear an opposing argument, I’d posit that the law is not an ideal profession."
I am simply amazed that there are people who have never heard facts, ideas and opinions they don't like! I don't know how they manage to get through a day let alone a week.
Have they learnt nothing? So sick of these cowardly, pathetic excuses for men in charge of institutions. Stop enabling this behaviour and stand up to your fellow men who wish harm on women!
"For those unable to hear an opposing argument, I’d posit that the law is not an ideal profession."
Dead on, JL. The legal profession should be a bulwark against this fanatic ideology, but they've turned out to be some of its most enthusiastic adopters.
Thank you, Shacklit. Yes, I'm afraid the law appears to have been ideologically captured thanks to the usual suspects. (Though a good mate of mine is a barrister and is of the opinion that the vast majority of lawyers think 'it's all bollocks' so that cheered me up!)
Apparently, Hugh Sheridan has been calling himself non-binary since the summer, so the TRAs have (once again) gone after one of their 'own', because everything is transphobic. Oh well!
I'm sorry, but when Neil Patrick Harris was tapped to play Hedwig did the trans community get up in arms about his role? I certainly don't remember them saying shit about it!
I do wish the theatre producers would grow a spine and stand up to these lunatics. If they must respond to them at all, one simple sentence is all that's required. "It's called ACTING you bellends".
Because it doesn't include 'men', i.e. women who identify as men, people like pregnant Freddie, a person so committed to living as a man, he has become pregnant twice.
It is indeed. I've come to the same conclusion as you Lycaerix. They don't like it because it undermines their whole ideology of you are who you feel to be. As for the whole ideas that only people who are trans can play trans parts etc. is bizarre. It's called acting for a reason.
I agree entirely. Hedwig is the perfect representation of trans ideology; a young, feminine boy is forced to transition by a totalitarian regime. (Though I doubt the vicious bullies who wailed about the casting have ever actually seen it.)
Fantastic work again JL. Depressing reading - this seems relentless and futile but this is the hill I will die on. I refuse to give in to bullies and an ideology that is so damaging and vile to my sex. I stand with all women and girls - even those throwing away themselves in this god awful fight. Never in my lifetime did I think I would see such regressive attitudes and witness such abhorrent treatment of women and our male allies. This has to stop. It has to. For sanity.
These MRA/TRA/PEADOS/kinks/AGP/rapists and pervs have a common theme regardless of how they identify. They are not hiding anymore. Not only that - they have an audience cheering them on and waving flags and fawning over them showering them with approval and enabling the most horrific elements of society.
The rot from within destroyed many empires and in 2021 history has taught us little. I only hope we are in time to save as many vulnerable kids as possible.
I’m so bereft that this insidious and sinister movement has been given so much power.
Thank you for your kind words, Victoria. I share your feelings but please do take heart & keep fighting because it is working; we are winning (There is a Good News Supplement on the way!) Best wishes xx
Not linked to the article above, but I'm subscribed to Waterstones email list and last week received Best Politics Books of 2021. 9 books were featured and one of them was Shon Faye's book. Neither Helen Joyce's, Julie Bindel's or Kathleen Stock's books were one of the 9 books blurbed in the email. When clicking on the full list there are 19 books discussed in the Race, Gender & Sexuality section, again none of these three books are mentioned.
That's me off Waterstones ,then. I bought most of those books ( not Shon Faye's ,lol) from Amazon ,which ,surprisingly ,still sells them.and they're all brilliantly written and backed up by science .👍👍Just bought Kara Dansky's recently published book. " The abolition of sex " and it arrived only a few days ago. I would highly recommend it. Great book !👍👍 Waterstones' sucking up to the tras is really disappointing. Hard to believe so many people have completely disengaged their brains on this issue !!👎👎
The old man in the retirement home is probably entirely in the right legally speaking, given the situation in the US. If you pass incoherent badly thought through legislation, you’re going to end up with a society that no longer functions in a rational way.
And, frankly, I wouldn't want to share a room with an old man even if I was an old man. There is a reason all our hospitals have gone to private rooms.
From the care home part:
"They claim their client was discriminated against on the basis of gender identity, transgender status and sex, all of which are protected under the Maine Human Rights Act."
Yeah, I'd be willing to bet they have something similar to the Equality Act which has exemptions to those protected categories. Unless the home in question regularly has mixed sex sleeping arrangements (which I doubt), then the female resident can legally object. If they don't have those exemptions then she'll be forced to share that space with a male. Can't imagine many people would want their nana to be in that situation.
That's what gets me too - sex, once more is being conflated with gender. I really don't see how they are discriminated against based on sex. They are not female, they are male. If they were female to start with then they wouldn't be trans and there would be no issue, if they are male then they shouldn't be sharing a room with a female. What about her sex based rights and right to dignity? There is no-one these people won't throw under the bus it seems.
The people responsible for this ideogy and the ones imposing it have limitless contempt for women. They're even prepared to challenge the boundaries of women who are at the end of their lives.
I have a horrible feeling that the law may be on the side of the male and his legal team. (This being the states where they appear to have taken leave of their senses. And reality.)
"For those unable to hear an opposing argument, I’d posit that the law is not an ideal profession."
Boom! JL shook m'learned friends room :-)
Haha! Thank you so much! In all seriousness, how are these whiny brats ever going to survive in such a ruthless, competitive profession??
The youth wing of Jolyon Maugham's Barmy Army are a cautionary example of ill conceived careers. There's a lot of it about - I've a nifty BBC news insider who's been relating examples of new recruits "ignorant youngsters who don't comprehend the basics such as difference between opinion and fact" for a few years.
Thanks once again ,JL.Seems like this horror is never ending. So now women are going to be fearful of needing nursing home care in case they have to share a room with a man. 😭😭 So disgusting and depressing that those in authority ,including all the institutions ,don't care anything at all for women's rights ,privacy and dignity ,even at the end of our lives !! They don't even care about children's safety ,even to the extent of irreversibly damaging their young bodies ,so how insane do these Stonewall Laws have to become before those in charge wake up and see this for what it is !!
That's the trouble isn't it? The ideology came as a wolf in sheep's clothing. Stonewall was an institution that people trusted and so they listened and now this awful ideology has taken hold because people in authority were either scared of being cancelled or called out and seen as a bigot, virtue signalling to show how much they aren't bigots or there was something in it for them. Women, children, homosexuals, intersex, other trans people who do not believe in the ideology, poorly and vulnerable people in hospital, and now the elderly are all thrown under the bus in the name of the ideology.
I know it seems bleak, Susan, but I truly believe that we are winning and that we WILL win. Sense will prevail. So please keep fighting and take heart. xx
I don't think they are going to wake up, they're protecting themselves, seemingly at any cost. It won't end until large numbers of people, not just those actively engaged in confronting this, stop being passive. Passivity is being treated as acceptance through fear. We need to be more afraid of outcome of the the abuses occurring now than the people responsible for the abuse.
Ultimately, they can only be as audacious and authoritarian as we allow them to be. Realistically, gender ideology based extremism has a limited lifespan in terms of what it can impose. Many people are still unaware of what's happening, they're adopting a live and let live approach, either because they're seeing vulnerability or something that has nothing to do with them. They aren't aware that they're talking about a group who want far more than that. They want to restrict and remove the freedoms and rights of others, particularly women and LGB people; they're in the process of doing it.
But what they're doing is going to increasingly felt by people who realise, regardless that they believed gender ideology didn't affect them, here they are being affected by it in ways they don't want. Misogynistic gender tyranny will eventually come to an end, but a lot of irreversible damage will have been done by then, so the process needs to be accelerated. It's not going to happen while the victims feel they have no choice but to collude with the abusers.
One more reason to avoid -- AT ALL COSTS -- going into a nursing facility. They feed you crap, they treat you like an idiot, you may be abused, and all I've ever done is visit a friend in one and what a horror show it was.
...and they cost a bomb for the privilege and smell. Just when you thought they couldn't be less dignified.
JL: There is a lot going on in the 'No Country For Old Women' segment that your readers are not likely to be aware of. I live in northern New England about two hours from Maine. Demographically, there are many similarities. Right off the bat, Mainers, like Vermonters, resent when southern New Englanders stick their noses in our business, no matter the position that they're representing - and from Boston, no less. It's a regional misstep of huge proportion. It's also a major political misstep.
I'll try to be brief here. Maine has a gubernatorial election in 2022. The current governor is running for re-election. She's a moderate like most Maine pols. Like Vermont, Maine has an Independent Senator. Both are rare ducks in Congress. Running against the incumbent guv is former governor Paul LePage. LePage and Mills, factoring in the margin for error, are virtually neck and neck at this stage, according to the September poll cited by 538polls.
LePage became guv in 2010, as the Maine was reeling from the 2008 Recession. He wasn't expected win. He had Tea Party support and a foul mouth. As he likes to say, he was Trump before Trump came along. When the NAACP expressed dismay at his unwillingness to meet with them, he publicly told the NAACP to "kiss (his) ass." He detests immigrants and holds a special hatred for refugees.
This is a made for the moment issue for a demagogue like LePage - people from an activist, nosey Parker Boston group trying to force elderly Maine women to be housed alone in a room with an adult human male, against their will. There's no question whether he'll try to ride this issue to the governor's mansion; the only real question is how many people will be peaked in northern New England.
Thanks, Fred. All very interesting.
In Maine, we call them Massholes and they are often deeply resented, particularly now that they are buying houses (in the event of another pandemic) and squeezing the local population out of the housing market. I have every intent of CALLING -- which gets more attention -- my senators' offices and complaining about this obscene lawsuit.
Regarding Mills and LePage, I have to seriously question whether I will vote for her again. He is absolutely disgusting and horrible, but she is only slightly better, a nice liberal veneer masking a corporate Democrat who vetoed a lot of good legislation (she vetoed a law against aerial spraying of Roundup!). And with her sticking up for trans, it does not bode well for her reelection. What many of us would like to see is a better candidate running against LePusque (for those not familiar with Quebecois pronunciation, that would be LePuke).
I refrained from using the term 'Massholes.' Mainers should decide what name fits these nosey Parkers. Talk about handing LePage a gift for the holidays and beyond. They've had the same impact on the housing market. They just simply outbid what the average Vermonter can afford and another housing unit is removed from the local market, leaving one more local family struggling to find a roof over their heads.
It's particularly bad here along the coast. They buy the properties then leave them sitting empty or charge absurd rents (and rents are already absurd enough). A Republican tried to pass legislation that would have charged higher property taxes for people who do not live in their houses at least 180 days a year; I assume the Democrats were opposed to that because I never heard an update.
From the wonderful JL: "For those unable to hear an opposing argument, I’d posit that the law is not an ideal profession."
I am simply amazed that there are people who have never heard facts, ideas and opinions they don't like! I don't know how they manage to get through a day let alone a week.
I wonder how the hell they'll manage in a profession the very basis of which is factual evidence! (And thank you for your kind words xx)
Warwick University were in disgrace a couple of years ago for covering up Whatsapps chats where male students discussed rape of female students
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-48366835
Have they learnt nothing? So sick of these cowardly, pathetic excuses for men in charge of institutions. Stop enabling this behaviour and stand up to your fellow men who wish harm on women!
"For those unable to hear an opposing argument, I’d posit that the law is not an ideal profession."
Dead on, JL. The legal profession should be a bulwark against this fanatic ideology, but they've turned out to be some of its most enthusiastic adopters.
Thank you, Shacklit. Yes, I'm afraid the law appears to have been ideologically captured thanks to the usual suspects. (Though a good mate of mine is a barrister and is of the opinion that the vast majority of lawyers think 'it's all bollocks' so that cheered me up!)
Oh that's good to hear! If only people had the courage to speak up more...
Apparently, Hugh Sheridan has been calling himself non-binary since the summer, so the TRAs have (once again) gone after one of their 'own', because everything is transphobic. Oh well!
"No Outsiders" = "No Parents".
I'm sorry, but when Neil Patrick Harris was tapped to play Hedwig did the trans community get up in arms about his role? I certainly don't remember them saying shit about it!
I do wish the theatre producers would grow a spine and stand up to these lunatics. If they must respond to them at all, one simple sentence is all that's required. "It's called ACTING you bellends".
That's my reaction as I look into British political machinations.
So, like here, party reactions are knee jerk and politicized to everyone's detriment.
It's almost as if none of this nonsense ideology makes any sense, even to its evangelists, isn't it?
Because it doesn't include 'men', i.e. women who identify as men, people like pregnant Freddie, a person so committed to living as a man, he has become pregnant twice.
It is indeed. I've come to the same conclusion as you Lycaerix. They don't like it because it undermines their whole ideology of you are who you feel to be. As for the whole ideas that only people who are trans can play trans parts etc. is bizarre. It's called acting for a reason.
I agree entirely. Hedwig is the perfect representation of trans ideology; a young, feminine boy is forced to transition by a totalitarian regime. (Though I doubt the vicious bullies who wailed about the casting have ever actually seen it.)