Ugh....so much ugh I scarce know what to single out for comment. I am still at a loss as to how anyone can think it is ok for paedophiles and sexual predators to be treated with more respect than their current or potential victims.
As for the barbershop debarcle - how fragile these egos are! How does explaining that they can't cut your hair get extrapolated to: “I felt disgusted being treated like I didn’t even matter. I felt so bad and ashamed of my body. Due to me being transgender, being called a woman is very hurtful and disrespectful. It would be good to put a highlight on this issue due to there being so many people who are scared to go outside"?
How is this anything to do with being scared to go outside?! Rampant barbers everywhere refusing to cut womens hair! A vertiable plague of them! Also don't transfer your own internal disgust of yourself onto other people just because they won't validate the lies you tell yourself to manage your own self disgust!
My thoughts exactly re the barbers shop. It's bloody obvious she's female and the they only cut men's hair. If she can't deal with that, Gawd help her navigating the real world.
Indeed. And what is more, as this story shows, they can't just opt-in! Women don't just see men opting-in to womanhood as a piss-take though, we see them as a potential threat as it is proven time and again that it lets sexual predators under the radar, erodes sex-based rights that have been hard won and skews data about sex differences in healthcare, medicine, jobs, earning potential, everything really.
Yup, agreeing with you completely. Just a threat to themselves. I bet the TRA community just shrugs about them unless their story can be used by "the cause".
Indeed. Moulding reality to fit their fragile egos is at the heart of everything they do. They don't so much navigate the real world as rename it all to fit them. I can't blame them for thinking that they can when every message, including it's ok to be a sexual predator if you're trans, seems to validate this tactic.
Yes ,makes me sick every time I see that !! The " free " press of all people should be standing against this. What on earth are they afraid of ?? Most of their readers would agree with their stance if they stood up for truth and justice.
This is all so depressing. It's a tsunami. It makes me feel utterly helpless, given the way that so many of our institutions (police, prisons, education, press) are utterly captured.
These institutions are captured, but I would question the strength of the bonds. The hierarchy and membership of these organisations don't seem to have thought about what they're supporting, imposing and enforcing very deeply. I don't know whether it's wishful thinking, but this seems to be more about obedience and compliance rather than ideological committment.
Obviously, you just need to look at the results of that to realise it isn't a good thing. But however well funded and influential trans activists and activism is, its strength is in people's cooperation or resignation. Long term mass delusion notwithstanding, it's not sustainable, too many facets of this ideology are repugnant and lead to rights and human bodies being violated. These bullies are certainly beatable.
It must be so fucking difficult and depressing being a young woman now with all this enforced gender woo bollocks going on. I have my days where I feel like screaming because I'm so fucking sick of it all, but my close friends (mostly) know I'm GC (only a few outliers I'm not sure about sharing with yet), my partner is GC, my family are, I can talk about this stuff with them (as well as you fucking legends and most of Mumsnet). And I had a good number of years where it felt like we were making *some* progress, or at least didn't have this tsunami of genderwoo bullshit and society-level gaslighting going on. I want to help young women dealing with this bullshit, and also detransitioners and desisters. Need to think about how I can do this.
I understand completely, Miaowmix. It's like a horror story unfolding before our eyes that we are powerless to stop. There are several young girls in my family around 15/16. I am terrified for them.
Thanks ,JL. All horrific stories but I find the story of the little boy ,Kai ,particularly troubling. Thanks to his homophobic mother ,he appears to have lost any chance of growing up as either a Gay or a straight man !! Furthermore ,what 18 month old baby can signal that he or she is Gay ,never mind trans !! So his future now is 1) puberty blockers ,2) cross sex hormones and 3) surgical castration / mutilation with very unpredictable results !! Poor child and shame on his mother!! There's absolutely nothing Christian about her actions .👎👎👎👎
I agree, Susan. It's just chilling and utterly heartbreaking. That poor kid. Another Jazz Jennings. He'll be robbed of his future because his mother was scared the family thought he was gay. Shame on her and everyone who facilitated this.
I think it's actually fairly accurate. Cosmo's idea of a woman is hardly relevant to actual women, but much closer to porn-filled male fantasy. But they should have made Bergdorf stand on his head like they do their female models so it looks like he's got breasts.
Am a bit confused.....the blurb under the heavily edited photographs states ..."the model fighting for equality and against cancel culture".....aren't us folk here - ie the "Gender Critical" gang, the people that Munroe Bergdorf and gang all want to cancel? I didn't know you could be on both sides at once?
Yes, I nearly spat my tea out reading that description! Against cancel culture?? Total lie. Bergdorf, the vitriolic little scrote, led a campaign to oust Baroness Nicholson from an honorary role at the Booker Prize.
I live in Colchester.. I’m so sickened by that contemptible runt and completely disgusted by the asinine reporting - is it wrong of me to wish Boudica could pay another visit to Camulodunum?
I can’t wait for the Good News Supplement this week. It is a life buoy of hope in these choppy, dark waters. Thank you JL, GL, Molekind et al for all you do.
Yes, I'm sure they could have cut her hair. (The article mentions that the owner was away so I suspect the staff were implementing the rules & daren't deviate.) The point is that, having been told 'No', she could simply have gone elsewhere. Instead she kicked up one hell of a fuss and went to the local paper, gushing with hyperbole about being treated like she 'didn't matter' and made to feel ashamed etc etc... What a spoiled brat. The barbers shop have a policy of only cutting men's hair. She should have respected that.
There was mention from the owner of being in Turkey, I think? So perhaps Muslim, and rules about men not engaging in intimate grooming of women? I don't know.
They know she's a woman, and no amount of wilful denial by her – or by the enabling woke culture that groomed her – can make it otherwise.
Exactly what I thought. Hallelujah! (Or should that be abracadabra!), my boy is really a girl! Phew, dodged that inconvenient homosexual issue completely! Groomed the gay right out of him once spanking failed.
Ugh....so much ugh I scarce know what to single out for comment. I am still at a loss as to how anyone can think it is ok for paedophiles and sexual predators to be treated with more respect than their current or potential victims.
As for the barbershop debarcle - how fragile these egos are! How does explaining that they can't cut your hair get extrapolated to: “I felt disgusted being treated like I didn’t even matter. I felt so bad and ashamed of my body. Due to me being transgender, being called a woman is very hurtful and disrespectful. It would be good to put a highlight on this issue due to there being so many people who are scared to go outside"?
How is this anything to do with being scared to go outside?! Rampant barbers everywhere refusing to cut womens hair! A vertiable plague of them! Also don't transfer your own internal disgust of yourself onto other people just because they won't validate the lies you tell yourself to manage your own self disgust!
My thoughts exactly re the barbers shop. It's bloody obvious she's female and the they only cut men's hair. If she can't deal with that, Gawd help her navigating the real world.
Trans men aren't a threat in any way whatsoever so perhaps it goes under the radar.
But as a man I find it it the ultimate piss-take to suggest a woman can opt-in to manhood.
It gives me a greater appreciation of how women must feel when some random bloke in a cheap wig purports to be a woman 👊
Indeed. And what is more, as this story shows, they can't just opt-in! Women don't just see men opting-in to womanhood as a piss-take though, we see them as a potential threat as it is proven time and again that it lets sexual predators under the radar, erodes sex-based rights that have been hard won and skews data about sex differences in healthcare, medicine, jobs, earning potential, everything really.
Indeed. That's why I started by saying trans men aren't a threat.
Yup, agreeing with you completely. Just a threat to themselves. I bet the TRA community just shrugs about them unless their story can be used by "the cause".
I think she is a leading nominee for my 'The Paper Cut of Oppression' Award for this week.
Lol!
Indeed. Moulding reality to fit their fragile egos is at the heart of everything they do. They don't so much navigate the real world as rename it all to fit them. I can't blame them for thinking that they can when every message, including it's ok to be a sexual predator if you're trans, seems to validate this tactic.
The Press and Judiciary using the wrong sex for rapists and nonces has to be the epitome of misogyny.
It really is.
Yes ,makes me sick every time I see that !! The " free " press of all people should be standing against this. What on earth are they afraid of ?? Most of their readers would agree with their stance if they stood up for truth and justice.
This is all so depressing. It's a tsunami. It makes me feel utterly helpless, given the way that so many of our institutions (police, prisons, education, press) are utterly captured.
Don't lose heart, Ursula. There is a bumper edition of the Good News Supplement on the way!
Thank you, look forward to it! Thank you for your energy, commitment and encouragement. 🙏 A real Boudicca!
Oh gosh what a lovely compliment! Thank you so much xx
These institutions are captured, but I would question the strength of the bonds. The hierarchy and membership of these organisations don't seem to have thought about what they're supporting, imposing and enforcing very deeply. I don't know whether it's wishful thinking, but this seems to be more about obedience and compliance rather than ideological committment.
Obviously, you just need to look at the results of that to realise it isn't a good thing. But however well funded and influential trans activists and activism is, its strength is in people's cooperation or resignation. Long term mass delusion notwithstanding, it's not sustainable, too many facets of this ideology are repugnant and lead to rights and human bodies being violated. These bullies are certainly beatable.
Thank you, I really hope you are right x
It must be so fucking difficult and depressing being a young woman now with all this enforced gender woo bollocks going on. I have my days where I feel like screaming because I'm so fucking sick of it all, but my close friends (mostly) know I'm GC (only a few outliers I'm not sure about sharing with yet), my partner is GC, my family are, I can talk about this stuff with them (as well as you fucking legends and most of Mumsnet). And I had a good number of years where it felt like we were making *some* progress, or at least didn't have this tsunami of genderwoo bullshit and society-level gaslighting going on. I want to help young women dealing with this bullshit, and also detransitioners and desisters. Need to think about how I can do this.
I understand completely, Miaowmix. It's like a horror story unfolding before our eyes that we are powerless to stop. There are several young girls in my family around 15/16. I am terrified for them.
Thanks ,JL. All horrific stories but I find the story of the little boy ,Kai ,particularly troubling. Thanks to his homophobic mother ,he appears to have lost any chance of growing up as either a Gay or a straight man !! Furthermore ,what 18 month old baby can signal that he or she is Gay ,never mind trans !! So his future now is 1) puberty blockers ,2) cross sex hormones and 3) surgical castration / mutilation with very unpredictable results !! Poor child and shame on his mother!! There's absolutely nothing Christian about her actions .👎👎👎👎
I agree, Susan. It's just chilling and utterly heartbreaking. That poor kid. Another Jazz Jennings. He'll be robbed of his future because his mother was scared the family thought he was gay. Shame on her and everyone who facilitated this.
It's child abuse.
It's academic that Munroe Bergdorf may be homophobic or racist or dropped from the NSPCC.
Bergdorf could have invented penicillin or cured cancer, he could be the kindest, sweetest person in the world.
What's simply relevant and simply ridiculous is that a man is the cover star of the 50th Anniversary edition of Cosmopolitan.
I think it's actually fairly accurate. Cosmo's idea of a woman is hardly relevant to actual women, but much closer to porn-filled male fantasy. But they should have made Bergdorf stand on his head like they do their female models so it looks like he's got breasts.
Not sure that would help. Have you noticed his breasts are horribly uneven? He should ask for his money back.
With a good pushup bra and standing on his head, they might look better.
His surgeon obviously didn't have a spirit level.
They look even better from behind, I think.
Haha!
Am a bit confused.....the blurb under the heavily edited photographs states ..."the model fighting for equality and against cancel culture".....aren't us folk here - ie the "Gender Critical" gang, the people that Munroe Bergdorf and gang all want to cancel? I didn't know you could be on both sides at once?
Yes, I nearly spat my tea out reading that description! Against cancel culture?? Total lie. Bergdorf, the vitriolic little scrote, led a campaign to oust Baroness Nicholson from an honorary role at the Booker Prize.
A truly disheartening litany of war injuries. A war on women, children, teens, reality ...
Don't lose heart, Nancy. A bumper edition of the Good News Supplement is on the way soon! We need to keep fighting. We ARE winning.
We are, but my god there have been casualties. Young bodies delusionally maimed, lives derailed.
Trying not to lose heart -- your response lifted my spirits. Thank you!
I think the reason we're seeing so many disheartening stories is that this ideology is in its death throes. They are panicking.
Maybe!
Do you reckon maybe - just maybe - 'Kai' is gay and his "devoutly Christian Republican mother" might be, erm, anti-gay?
Absolutely.
I live in Colchester.. I’m so sickened by that contemptible runt and completely disgusted by the asinine reporting - is it wrong of me to wish Boudica could pay another visit to Camulodunum?
Not at all... and then we could send her down to the House or Lords.
Hear, hear!
I can’t wait for the Good News Supplement this week. It is a life buoy of hope in these choppy, dark waters. Thank you JL, GL, Molekind et al for all you do.
Ah thank you, Cara. That's lovely.
Why have a gay son when you can have a straight daughter, wot wot?
Got in one.
Unpopular opinion: I'm with James on the haircut. No reason the barbers couldn't have given her a man's haircut if that's what she wanted.
Yes, I'm sure they could have cut her hair. (The article mentions that the owner was away so I suspect the staff were implementing the rules & daren't deviate.) The point is that, having been told 'No', she could simply have gone elsewhere. Instead she kicked up one hell of a fuss and went to the local paper, gushing with hyperbole about being treated like she 'didn't matter' and made to feel ashamed etc etc... What a spoiled brat. The barbers shop have a policy of only cutting men's hair. She should have respected that.
There was mention from the owner of being in Turkey, I think? So perhaps Muslim, and rules about men not engaging in intimate grooming of women? I don't know.
They know she's a woman, and no amount of wilful denial by her – or by the enabling woke culture that groomed her – can make it otherwise.
Ah that's an excellent point, TJ37. You're probably right.
Yes but then she just HAD to create a whole victimhood narrative around it with many exaggerations which were so over the top !! Garnering sympathy ??
Yes, having your nose put out of joint is one thing, but going to the local paper???
Indeed. I get annoyed with local rags desperate for clicks. They should tell these sympathy seekers to bugger off rather than giving them a platform.
That poor little poor boy. I could weep. Another Jazz Jennings.
Exactly what I thought. Hallelujah! (Or should that be abracadabra!), my boy is really a girl! Phew, dodged that inconvenient homosexual issue completely! Groomed the gay right out of him once spanking failed.
Frankly, I'd like to knock that woman across the room. Child abusers for some unfathomable reason make me really mad.