When I saw this headline, my first thought was ‘at last’! I presumed the trans phenomenon would form part of this examination of male aggression and sexual entitlement, considering the rape and death threats sent to any feminist who disagrees that men become women the instant they declare themselves such. But then I remembered that this was The Guardian, so the ‘experts’ might be anything but.
Clairvoyance, heavenly inspiration, epiphany. Anything but clear definitions and empirically sound observable definitions and methods that are universally recognized and yield reproducible results.
The Trans moevment has undoutedly increased misogyny. It shows in the way that women have been bypassed in bringing this into policy and legislation, without being consulted, and our concerns are still not being listened to. Any society which respects women and children would ensure our rights are absolutely respected. This fundamental disrespect filters through to feed grass roots misogyny. Just look at Kellie-Jay Keen's US tour. It seems like it's Incels' favourite day out when she hosts a Speaker's Corner event- the perfect excuse for men to go out and and badmouth, bully and threaten women, with no comeback. Watch her Austin event as an example. The police don't turn up, or they do a half-hearted job of protecting women or their rights to spealk, which signals that the police don't care , which implies the State doesn;t care, which implies society doesn't care, which some men take to mean they can get away with anything when it comes to women. It is so poisonous. Thanks for highlitghing this, Graham. For (some) women to be encouraging this is just so sickening.
The trans/men's rights movement has bypassing women at its heart, and if we challenge that, we're attacked. There is no consistent and meaningful dialogue as far as I'm aware. They have no regard for women, they tolerate the ones who scream their mantras for them in the faces of other women. What got these young women there? Primarily internalised misogyny, they are escaping hyper sexualisation by gaining another kind of validation from men, as in men who despise women. Men who I'm sure fantasise about doing women terrible harm, and possibly actually do. These are the kind of men who have the platform and are getting to dictate terms. This fucking insanity needs to end.
Her redundant cult-complicit pronouns explain everything. How possibly can a person who describes herself as an online bullying 'expert', an ‘expert’ in social media, an 'expert' in incel behaviour not come across the hate-fuelled bullying of ‘gender’ critical women online? She has willingly fashioned the ‘trans’ flag into a blindfold, and wrapped it so tightly around her eyes, so obediently, she cannot see.
Are the pronouns redundant, after all? Is Debbie Bing actually a man? That would explain a lot too. Whatever sex this person actually is, they still wear the 'trans' flag blindfold.
It's such a freakin' waste of time and energy trying to figure out whether someone is male or female. Like it or not, knowing this fact is packed with information and explanation.
Aah yes, the Guardian Media Group PLC. Still railing against offshore tax havens despite using a Cayman Isles shell company to avoid paying tax over the Autotrader sale. Also, still railing against misogyny while promoting the most violently-misogynistic movement in decades. A shameless rag.
Thanks for this! Brilliant! Surely he will reinstate our Glinner, Kavanagh, Posie etc? C'mon! I still can't get a feel for what he will allow in terms of being critical of transgenderism. It's so lucrative for America as an industry!
Meant to you ask your thoughts on Schitt's Creek. I absolutely love it and still do, and didn't know the bigger picture when I watched it in lockdown. When I watch it back, I get quite a lot of TQ vibes (or at least Q vibes). I feel like gender was even mentioned at one point. Not sure on that. Was it exclusively woke? It did seem to cater to that crowd. I'm thinking now that David in it was pansexual, or at least explored it...
I suppose unless they’ve left a note of explanation, or left a trail of evidence behind, you just don’t know why they’ve done what they’ve done. There was one thing I thought of that might explain the killing of men as well, if you wanted to go with the incel narrative, which is that he was killing men who looked like they had girlfriends or wives. They had what he didn’t. Whatever it was, it’s a very sad story.
He mentions "for the past six years", wanting to kill happy looking women. Which puts that around 2015, about exactly when I started delving into this subculture.
idk this is a weird collection of replies, it's like even hen they tell you themselves it's misogynistic violence, you won't accept that it is. Unless I'm reading this wrong :/
People were killed as they happened to be in that location. They were incidental and not intended targets. The perpetrators went out to kill, have that mindset and kill other people who aren't in their specific target range, then as they are often then killed or die themselves finding out the pattern of their thinking is harder. Rage and revenge isn't a neat or accurate underlying emotion. They often kill people they know, then go on rampages and kill men, women and children indiscriminately.
This is how I feel whenever there's another 'We're cracking down on online glorification of self-harm and suicide! Because teen girls are screwed over by sites like these!'
*Looks for trans-pushing sites...*
*Looks again...*
100s of giddy celebrations of 'top surgery' and 'bottom surgery'?
'My first year on T'?
'Come'n yeet yr teets!!'?
Not looking to rein in those? Not a flicker of a mention of including the biggest self-harm-or-suicide glorifiers of all, the trans influencers, the enablers pushing cutting off healthy body parts, the destroyers of fine-tuned endocrine systems, the pushers of self-maiming for life?
Yes, Guardian 'experts' and their cohort have ruled and until a LOT changes, they still do.
Well, with x1 retweet & 21 likes from various jellies & thumbs, I wouldn't rate this numptee with much of anything except perhaps a few Dunning-Kruger points.
It isn't possible have rational communication with Debbie Ging and those of the same ilk. Mumsnet being likened to Stormfront? Seriously? What a fucking idiot, she should be embarrassed that she's made such an arse of herself. Let her carry on, let all of them carry on just as they are until no one is listening any longer.
I investigated this MRA/MGTOW/incel culture years ago, before finding radfem. I thought maybe they had a point, and wanted to understand what women were doing so wrong according to these men. It's not a good idea, they're simply hateful (big revelation lol), and their complaints are ALL about twisting patriarchy around in their deranged minds to make themselves out to be a victim. I may one day write a book about it, because there's a lot. It's a form of mass narcissism, which I believe is why we're hearing so much more about that today, as women figure out that we're nothing but cannon fodder to this generation of men. Also, this summer I have found MGTOW stickers all over my own city, a lot of them, and am defacing them with a sharpie. It is spreading.
How can they combat misogyny when they can't even say what a woman is?
Clairvoyance, heavenly inspiration, epiphany. Anything but clear definitions and empirically sound observable definitions and methods that are universally recognized and yield reproducible results.
The Trans moevment has undoutedly increased misogyny. It shows in the way that women have been bypassed in bringing this into policy and legislation, without being consulted, and our concerns are still not being listened to. Any society which respects women and children would ensure our rights are absolutely respected. This fundamental disrespect filters through to feed grass roots misogyny. Just look at Kellie-Jay Keen's US tour. It seems like it's Incels' favourite day out when she hosts a Speaker's Corner event- the perfect excuse for men to go out and and badmouth, bully and threaten women, with no comeback. Watch her Austin event as an example. The police don't turn up, or they do a half-hearted job of protecting women or their rights to spealk, which signals that the police don't care , which implies the State doesn;t care, which implies society doesn't care, which some men take to mean they can get away with anything when it comes to women. It is so poisonous. Thanks for highlitghing this, Graham. For (some) women to be encouraging this is just so sickening.
The trans/men's rights movement has bypassing women at its heart, and if we challenge that, we're attacked. There is no consistent and meaningful dialogue as far as I'm aware. They have no regard for women, they tolerate the ones who scream their mantras for them in the faces of other women. What got these young women there? Primarily internalised misogyny, they are escaping hyper sexualisation by gaining another kind of validation from men, as in men who despise women. Men who I'm sure fantasise about doing women terrible harm, and possibly actually do. These are the kind of men who have the platform and are getting to dictate terms. This fucking insanity needs to end.
Debbie Ging? what a name.... ah yes Mumsnet which exposed the dodgy background of Jason Grant Dignity Period Officer.....
Debbie's envy is pulpable. She claims to speak for women, but bloody hates it when women speak to each other and for themselves.
The photo spoke volumes to me.
Her redundant cult-complicit pronouns explain everything. How possibly can a person who describes herself as an online bullying 'expert', an ‘expert’ in social media, an 'expert' in incel behaviour not come across the hate-fuelled bullying of ‘gender’ critical women online? She has willingly fashioned the ‘trans’ flag into a blindfold, and wrapped it so tightly around her eyes, so obediently, she cannot see.
Are the pronouns redundant, after all? Is Debbie Bing actually a man? That would explain a lot too. Whatever sex this person actually is, they still wear the 'trans' flag blindfold.
It's such a freakin' waste of time and energy trying to figure out whether someone is male or female. Like it or not, knowing this fact is packed with information and explanation.
Debbie...give me a nice paper on why you defend John Money....then lets talk
Exactly!
Aah yes, the Guardian Media Group PLC. Still railing against offshore tax havens despite using a Cayman Isles shell company to avoid paying tax over the Autotrader sale. Also, still railing against misogyny while promoting the most violently-misogynistic movement in decades. A shameless rag.
I always check for an adam's apple
Eve's apple.
That'll be part of the revisionist history. Eve was actually a transman... It doesn't have to make sense!
From The Garden Of Eden, to The Guardian Of Evil - look at this fantastic Tweet.
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1587114234059624448
Thanks for this! Brilliant! Surely he will reinstate our Glinner, Kavanagh, Posie etc? C'mon! I still can't get a feel for what he will allow in terms of being critical of transgenderism. It's so lucrative for America as an industry!
I'm optimistic but not celebrating until they're back tweeting.
Same! Come and celebrate with us on YouTube when you get back on, Glinner!
And the stubble covered in foundation!
Apparently the recent shortages of HRT for women was because it's being given to men.
Oh that would not surprise me 🙄 wait, is that true!?
So I hear.
Wow, that's terrible.
Meant to you ask your thoughts on Schitt's Creek. I absolutely love it and still do, and didn't know the bigger picture when I watched it in lockdown. When I watch it back, I get quite a lot of TQ vibes (or at least Q vibes). I feel like gender was even mentioned at one point. Not sure on that. Was it exclusively woke? It did seem to cater to that crowd. I'm thinking now that David in it was pansexual, or at least explored it...
God, I'm grumpy about these things! 😂
I've not watched it but I do like Catherine O'Hara. Have you seen Hacks?
Ugh, makes me sick 🤮
Ring finger.
So they've redefined "expert" as well as "woman".
Pity the confused Incel.
One time misogyny was easy.
Now they have to wait to be told that the person identifies as a hatee before they get hateful.
Im sure that's how it works
Online misogyny? Pot … kettle …
Well. She seems nice.
"experts fear rising global 'incel' culture could provoke terrorism"
The Guardian has become a shit source for news and current affairs. "Could" my arse! e.g.
"Plymouth shootings: Attack could be reclassified as terrorism over Jake Davison's 'incel' links": https://news.sky.com/story/plymouth-shootings-attack-could-be-reclassified-as-terrorism-over-jake-davisons-incel-links-12383353
He killed men as well though. I’m not sure if it fits.
Fair point :-)
Terrorism is a nebulous concept.
I suppose unless they’ve left a note of explanation, or left a trail of evidence behind, you just don’t know why they’ve done what they’ve done. There was one thing I thought of that might explain the killing of men as well, if you wanted to go with the incel narrative, which is that he was killing men who looked like they had girlfriends or wives. They had what he didn’t. Whatever it was, it’s a very sad story.
how bout this one then
https://english.kyodonews.net/news/2021/08/0f907d5a1ae8-10-passengers-stabbed-or-punched-on-tokyo-train-suspect-arrested.html
He mentions "for the past six years", wanting to kill happy looking women. Which puts that around 2015, about exactly when I started delving into this subculture.
idk this is a weird collection of replies, it's like even hen they tell you themselves it's misogynistic violence, you won't accept that it is. Unless I'm reading this wrong :/
Yes he’s been quite straightforward there. Although still attacked men too. Very odd behaviour.
People were killed as they happened to be in that location. They were incidental and not intended targets. The perpetrators went out to kill, have that mindset and kill other people who aren't in their specific target range, then as they are often then killed or die themselves finding out the pattern of their thinking is harder. Rage and revenge isn't a neat or accurate underlying emotion. They often kill people they know, then go on rampages and kill men, women and children indiscriminately.
This is how I feel whenever there's another 'We're cracking down on online glorification of self-harm and suicide! Because teen girls are screwed over by sites like these!'
*Looks for trans-pushing sites...*
*Looks again...*
100s of giddy celebrations of 'top surgery' and 'bottom surgery'?
'My first year on T'?
'Come'n yeet yr teets!!'?
Not looking to rein in those? Not a flicker of a mention of including the biggest self-harm-or-suicide glorifiers of all, the trans influencers, the enablers pushing cutting off healthy body parts, the destroyers of fine-tuned endocrine systems, the pushers of self-maiming for life?
Yes, Guardian 'experts' and their cohort have ruled and until a LOT changes, they still do.
Well, with x1 retweet & 21 likes from various jellies & thumbs, I wouldn't rate this numptee with much of anything except perhaps a few Dunning-Kruger points.
It isn't possible have rational communication with Debbie Ging and those of the same ilk. Mumsnet being likened to Stormfront? Seriously? What a fucking idiot, she should be embarrassed that she's made such an arse of herself. Let her carry on, let all of them carry on just as they are until no one is listening any longer.
I investigated this MRA/MGTOW/incel culture years ago, before finding radfem. I thought maybe they had a point, and wanted to understand what women were doing so wrong according to these men. It's not a good idea, they're simply hateful (big revelation lol), and their complaints are ALL about twisting patriarchy around in their deranged minds to make themselves out to be a victim. I may one day write a book about it, because there's a lot. It's a form of mass narcissism, which I believe is why we're hearing so much more about that today, as women figure out that we're nothing but cannon fodder to this generation of men. Also, this summer I have found MGTOW stickers all over my own city, a lot of them, and am defacing them with a sharpie. It is spreading.
please please write a book...is there somewhere I can connect on social media?