Yes, certainly. So many chdren and young people are going to need long term counselling, and other kinds of support to recover from the trauma adults have enabled or inflicted. These people mustn't be allowed to get off the hook.
Absolutely, from 'saving the kids' to 'saving the kids'. Blink and you miss it. I also wonder if some inquiry capacity is being considered for when that's needed. I've been very impressed at what small teams can do with some horrific evidence to sift.
Heartbreaking. I really hope poor KC is OK. When you leave the cult, wow, they will make you pay for exposing the truth. This could happen to you...so best shut up eh? Thank goodness for the brave who don't. The dreadful comments show that there is no such thing as the rainbow world of 'trans community'. It's a sham. One false move and you're the target for hatred. They dislike nothing more than exposure.
Her distress was so clear. She's arriving at that point of awful realisation, seeing the enormity of what's been done to her through having been led to chase the trans illusion. The stage that lies ahead for so many of these duped T-taking women, heartlessly lied to.
I wanted to give her a hug. Then I see the comments she's actually been getting... Everything you say, and maybe they feel threatened by her holding up a mirror to what they've also done, and they're not ready to look. She's a messenger from what their future may well hold. They want to swat her away.
I hope she knows so many are thinking of her, and with kindness and hope. She was struggling to find words but what words are there for this?
The internet is one really big feckin awful group in the playground and if one of them decides to randomly bully you and no one will stand up for you it will be hellish. We're imploding the whole idea and 'lived reality' of childhood. I know some who discussed moving out of cities (or certain estates) to protect their kids but you have to go some to really unpick the reach of the online world. It's not just about not having a mobile phone or monitoring screen time. Adults are becoming infantilised and infants are dealing with things they haven't a cat in hell's chance of coping with.
What a surprise-- the movement that demands inclusion, diversity, and equality-- not to mention kindness and acceptance without exception, turns out to be a cruel monolithic cult.
The sad irony that she wrote a book 'Small' which came with a little soft toy (mouse?) that you were to keep safe. Not chopping bits off it, maiming it, pulling out its stuffing and tearing its ears off, filling it with toxins and making it unwell. Then declaring it was a lion.
As a boy, I liked Sylvanian Families - thankfully there were no people with a platform like her promoting an ideology that would say I might be a girl.
I like the cut of your jib Hetty :-). I was brought up with boys and girls and we shared whatever toys we had. The idea that by looking in the wrong direction, going in the wrong 'toy' aisle or accidentally playing with a toy 'for the wrong gender' the whole course of your life is set is so bloody crackers. Are bikes for boys or girls? Mud for boys or girls? Drawing in or outside the lines on pictures, is that for boys or girls? Paper? Fresh air or computer games? Music? Swimming? Football?
Yeah . I have 4 children ,2 boys and 2 girls ,all now middle aged ,and they played with whatever toys they wanted !!We would never have dreamt of imposing rules about that
It's all "be kind" until someone isn't one of them any more. Isn't it weird how the hateful transphobes have way more compassion for someone going through a crisis ? [sarc]
Also, notice how they invoke the reality of genetics when it suits them (about hair loss as opposed to sex).
Yes, that's so true. Women can 'be men’ by force of thought alone and to hell with biology ... but actually they aren't affected by the male pattern hair loss and deep voice until they take the hormones. Which simply proves their female biology. And if those who take hormones and have surgery are proven to not have the innate biology then it's even more obvious that intact trans folk like our bald hairy blokes in frocks are, well, blokes in frocks?
Testosterone seems to be much stronger than any female hormones TiM's take, because most TiF's I've seen (not in person though) pass much much better than their male counterparts. Who would have thought? 🙄
Once again: Testosterone is toxic. Unless men take excellent care of themselves, they age much faster and look much worse than women. Anyone taking testosterone is doubly prey to its toxicity; we know that quite well what happens to men who take it.
It will of course be far more toxic to a girl or woman because everything seems to be more toxic in the female body, thinking here of alcohol (and they just found that the Ambien dose for women should be HALF of what they give men). Hormones are so very powerful, and our natural levels are in micrograms.
I doubt they're weighing themselves or aware to taper any dose of any meds correctly for their body size either. How would you know what a 'normal' reaction to something so abnormal in your body is. How could you check interactions. You'd be checking hourly which will only increase the unhealthy and narrow focus on your body yet in an out of body/body is wrong way. Following some 'helpful' transangel online who's 'advising' them on which drugs to take having so 'cruelly' been left on endless waiting lists for the 'trans affirming care' they so 'desperately need'. There was talk somewhere (here maybe? or a link) earlier of the shame about coming clean to GPs about having been injecting 'stuff you got online' for months then how your health provider might react. It's all chilling. We need a campaign on 'detrans' or anyone who's tried this to be able to come forward and early to seek real help and support. Those who've 'aged out' of CAMHS in their late teens and 20s.
What a bunch of fuckers. No understanding for someone who now realises they made the wrong decisions. Decisions they would have been vigorously encouraged, as in pressurised, to take. The number of 16 years olds who are certain of who they are, including the nature of their sex/gender/sexual identity, is small. Prescribing cross sex hormones to a girl in her mid teens is an act of abuse, it is the violation of a child's body.
It would be unsurprising if some of the people telling this young woman that she knew what testosterone would do to her body, have their own sense of loss for their former selves, and regret their actions. But for some expressing that is difficult or impossible. Not only because of the hostility and bullying they might face from trans friends, and the fear of being bullied or terrorised by strangers, but they would be consciously acknowledging what they'd done and what it means for their future.
Yeah and the irony is that ALL the support and compassion she gets is from the GC side ,the very side she was taught by the Tras to hate and fear because we're all terfs and hateful bigots !💔😭🤮
In other news: "Transpeople are divine: we are the sacred." (Shakespeare's Globe, From JL's Week In The War On Women).
That poor woman is basically an apostate in the eyes of a cult. The biology lecturer at Maine University is a heretic and anyone asking for a debate is a blasphemer. This is what happens when the political and media establishment are scared of a cult. Instead of destroying itself in a cabin in the woods as cults usually do, it establishes itself as a fundamentalist movement and becomes a magnet for sexual, financial and power-hungry grifters.
I really hope this woman finds the right people to support her and realises these arseholes aren't worth engaging with.
It's very easy to find Christy Hammer online; her address is chammer@maine.edu. I sent her a supportive message and said I hoped that GC women in Maine will begin to find each other and work against this cult.
So "annoying poof" (and would any other group get away with such a provocative name?)
"Sweetie, either detransition or get on minoxidil, or finasteride, or microneedling or wear a cap like other bald men. But don't sit here pretending like you didn't know testosterone would make you look and sound like a man That's on YOU not on hormone provision"
Fascinating. So the vulnerable are brainwashed into destroying themselves ... and then blamed for their own destruction?
Well, that's what we've been doing in the U.S. for centuries with indigenous and African-American people. We killed millions of the former, enslaved millions of the latter, and they are at fault for not living up to the "standards" of western / northern Europeans who destroy everything they touch.
It's utterly revolting. These are the people to whom kids are vulnerable now. A generation of children was left wide open to the influence of these porn addicts and gender cult dickheads.
Switched on TV tonight. Sewing programme on. I like sewing. Oh! There's a drag queen presenting. And a contestant who is a lad in a skirt with 'alternative' hair. Too peaked to watch and bristling, I switched over to a quiz show. Oh! There's a smug man with weird earrings and a massively ridiculous hairslide.
We must never, ever blame children for this. Gender ideology and sheer misogyny are paraded on our
Yes, we were surprised too! I think the person beside him had been at the hormones, and the other one only had one name ( perhaps the other was lost in the unfathomable beard ). TheBBC must have to search out these people, because you never seem to see them in the pub quiz.
Don’t tell me that they are perverting the Sewing Bee now…..
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We are going to need so many charities in the future to support people in their recovery from the harms of this ideology.
Yes, certainly. So many chdren and young people are going to need long term counselling, and other kinds of support to recover from the trauma adults have enabled or inflicted. These people mustn't be allowed to get off the hook.
I can see it now, us having to object to people involved in all of this from being appointed to positions in such charities.
Absolutely, from 'saving the kids' to 'saving the kids'. Blink and you miss it. I also wonder if some inquiry capacity is being considered for when that's needed. I've been very impressed at what small teams can do with some horrific evidence to sift.
Heartbreaking. I really hope poor KC is OK. When you leave the cult, wow, they will make you pay for exposing the truth. This could happen to you...so best shut up eh? Thank goodness for the brave who don't. The dreadful comments show that there is no such thing as the rainbow world of 'trans community'. It's a sham. One false move and you're the target for hatred. They dislike nothing more than exposure.
Her distress was so clear. She's arriving at that point of awful realisation, seeing the enormity of what's been done to her through having been led to chase the trans illusion. The stage that lies ahead for so many of these duped T-taking women, heartlessly lied to.
I wanted to give her a hug. Then I see the comments she's actually been getting... Everything you say, and maybe they feel threatened by her holding up a mirror to what they've also done, and they're not ready to look. She's a messenger from what their future may well hold. They want to swat her away.
'You're valid' until you're so not.
I hope she knows so many are thinking of her, and with kindness and hope. She was struggling to find words but what words are there for this?
The internet is one really big feckin awful group in the playground and if one of them decides to randomly bully you and no one will stand up for you it will be hellish. We're imploding the whole idea and 'lived reality' of childhood. I know some who discussed moving out of cities (or certain estates) to protect their kids but you have to go some to really unpick the reach of the online world. It's not just about not having a mobile phone or monitoring screen time. Adults are becoming infantilised and infants are dealing with things they haven't a cat in hell's chance of coping with.
Yeah and ,sadly , she's far from the only one. So many heartbreaking stories ,exposing the absolute evil at the heart of this cult 😭🤮
What a surprise-- the movement that demands inclusion, diversity, and equality-- not to mention kindness and acceptance without exception, turns out to be a cruel monolithic cult.
Whatever happened to ‘be kind?’
It only applies to other people. Narcissists rarely demand anything of themselves.
Shocker, huh?!
This children's author is standing with Mermaids, and wasn't she involved in ganging up and bullying another writer?
https://mobile.twitter.com/ClaraVulliamy/status/1579564316872712193
The sad irony that she wrote a book 'Small' which came with a little soft toy (mouse?) that you were to keep safe. Not chopping bits off it, maiming it, pulling out its stuffing and tearing its ears off, filling it with toxins and making it unwell. Then declaring it was a lion.
Eurgh! That Sylvanian family figurine dressed up!!! Eeek.
As a boy, I liked Sylvanian Families - thankfully there were no people with a platform like her promoting an ideology that would say I might be a girl.
I like the cut of your jib Hetty :-). I was brought up with boys and girls and we shared whatever toys we had. The idea that by looking in the wrong direction, going in the wrong 'toy' aisle or accidentally playing with a toy 'for the wrong gender' the whole course of your life is set is so bloody crackers. Are bikes for boys or girls? Mud for boys or girls? Drawing in or outside the lines on pictures, is that for boys or girls? Paper? Fresh air or computer games? Music? Swimming? Football?
Yeah . I have 4 children ,2 boys and 2 girls ,all now middle aged ,and they played with whatever toys they wanted !!We would never have dreamt of imposing rules about that
Yup. Going down with the ship.
It's all "be kind" until someone isn't one of them any more. Isn't it weird how the hateful transphobes have way more compassion for someone going through a crisis ? [sarc]
Also, notice how they invoke the reality of genetics when it suits them (about hair loss as opposed to sex).
Yes, that's so true. Women can 'be men’ by force of thought alone and to hell with biology ... but actually they aren't affected by the male pattern hair loss and deep voice until they take the hormones. Which simply proves their female biology. And if those who take hormones and have surgery are proven to not have the innate biology then it's even more obvious that intact trans folk like our bald hairy blokes in frocks are, well, blokes in frocks?
Testosterone seems to be much stronger than any female hormones TiM's take, because most TiF's I've seen (not in person though) pass much much better than their male counterparts. Who would have thought? 🙄
Once again: Testosterone is toxic. Unless men take excellent care of themselves, they age much faster and look much worse than women. Anyone taking testosterone is doubly prey to its toxicity; we know that quite well what happens to men who take it.
It will of course be far more toxic to a girl or woman because everything seems to be more toxic in the female body, thinking here of alcohol (and they just found that the Ambien dose for women should be HALF of what they give men). Hormones are so very powerful, and our natural levels are in micrograms.
I doubt they're weighing themselves or aware to taper any dose of any meds correctly for their body size either. How would you know what a 'normal' reaction to something so abnormal in your body is. How could you check interactions. You'd be checking hourly which will only increase the unhealthy and narrow focus on your body yet in an out of body/body is wrong way. Following some 'helpful' transangel online who's 'advising' them on which drugs to take having so 'cruelly' been left on endless waiting lists for the 'trans affirming care' they so 'desperately need'. There was talk somewhere (here maybe? or a link) earlier of the shame about coming clean to GPs about having been injecting 'stuff you got online' for months then how your health provider might react. It's all chilling. We need a campaign on 'detrans' or anyone who's tried this to be able to come forward and early to seek real help and support. Those who've 'aged out' of CAMHS in their late teens and 20s.
What a bunch of fuckers. No understanding for someone who now realises they made the wrong decisions. Decisions they would have been vigorously encouraged, as in pressurised, to take. The number of 16 years olds who are certain of who they are, including the nature of their sex/gender/sexual identity, is small. Prescribing cross sex hormones to a girl in her mid teens is an act of abuse, it is the violation of a child's body.
It would be unsurprising if some of the people telling this young woman that she knew what testosterone would do to her body, have their own sense of loss for their former selves, and regret their actions. But for some expressing that is difficult or impossible. Not only because of the hostility and bullying they might face from trans friends, and the fear of being bullied or terrorised by strangers, but they would be consciously acknowledging what they'd done and what it means for their future.
Yeah and the irony is that ALL the support and compassion she gets is from the GC side ,the very side she was taught by the Tras to hate and fear because we're all terfs and hateful bigots !💔😭🤮
Gucci promoting Emily Bridges.
In other news: "Transpeople are divine: we are the sacred." (Shakespeare's Globe, From JL's Week In The War On Women).
That poor woman is basically an apostate in the eyes of a cult. The biology lecturer at Maine University is a heretic and anyone asking for a debate is a blasphemer. This is what happens when the political and media establishment are scared of a cult. Instead of destroying itself in a cabin in the woods as cults usually do, it establishes itself as a fundamentalist movement and becomes a magnet for sexual, financial and power-hungry grifters.
I really hope this woman finds the right people to support her and realises these arseholes aren't worth engaging with.
Have you read the article 'A New Religion' by Colfer?
Yes, it's excellent.
It's very easy to find Christy Hammer online; her address is chammer@maine.edu. I sent her a supportive message and said I hoped that GC women in Maine will begin to find each other and work against this cult.
Thanks for that - great idea.
All this pile on shite for a child , was a child when she started , still a child now , a badly affected child 😔
Shame on all of these fuckers , then and now
And shame on her parents ( if they did indeed know )
"some of you thought that reconfiguring your flesh was gonna be a piece of cake and it’s so laughable"
No, ALL of you were conned into thinking that reconfiguring your flesh was gonna be a piece of cake and it’s utterly atrocious.
So "annoying poof" (and would any other group get away with such a provocative name?)
"Sweetie, either detransition or get on minoxidil, or finasteride, or microneedling or wear a cap like other bald men. But don't sit here pretending like you didn't know testosterone would make you look and sound like a man That's on YOU not on hormone provision"
Fascinating. So the vulnerable are brainwashed into destroying themselves ... and then blamed for their own destruction?
Well, that's what we've been doing in the U.S. for centuries with indigenous and African-American people. We killed millions of the former, enslaved millions of the latter, and they are at fault for not living up to the "standards" of western / northern Europeans who destroy everything they touch.
Evil bastards
Oh my God! I'm feeling sick after reading those comments. Who ARE those people? AGP's to a man??
It's utterly revolting. These are the people to whom kids are vulnerable now. A generation of children was left wide open to the influence of these porn addicts and gender cult dickheads.
Switched on TV tonight. Sewing programme on. I like sewing. Oh! There's a drag queen presenting. And a contestant who is a lad in a skirt with 'alternative' hair. Too peaked to watch and bristling, I switched over to a quiz show. Oh! There's a smug man with weird earrings and a massively ridiculous hairslide.
We must never, ever blame children for this. Gender ideology and sheer misogyny are paraded on our
TV screens and phones every single day.
Yes, we were surprised too! I think the person beside him had been at the hormones, and the other one only had one name ( perhaps the other was lost in the unfathomable beard ). TheBBC must have to search out these people, because you never seem to see them in the pub quiz.
Don’t tell me that they are perverting the Sewing Bee now…..
This is a real insight into the cruelty detransitioners face. She’s very brave.