Delete her wiki page if you must. But it does not, and never can delete her legacy. She can’t be erased that easily! Deleting her wiki entry doesn’t magically erase her life, her words and the impact she’s had on feminism and it’s allies. A poxy web page is nothing! It is the most hollow, paltry victory for TRAs imaginable. We will just rise above. Quote her more and make her words ring out!
absolutely it won't. What they are doing though is far more insidious then that, they are rewriting women right out of history, and in places where they can't do so, they are vastly undercutting their signficance by quoting male naysaying scholars and undermining their credibility and relevance. I read an entry on Mary Magdalen recently that had the gall to say she "might have even been an unwilling voyer" to the execution of Christ and His ministry rather than a beloved apostle, to which many sources attest, and possibly even his human companion, or even wife. That's just one example of the bias there, rather than give a balanced view or include new information, they are obviously in an effort to re-bury new theories that come up and write women right back out of history at every interchange. I was trying to find the name of the new CEO and tell them I'm never linking them as a source ever again, but as yet I haven't found a name.
I am so glad people are saying this. So obviously it's a well known thing. It can be a great resource for the sources from which they start which are listed at the bottoms of the articles but anymore I wouldn't trust a single word written in wikipedia as it has become a blatantly misogynist enterprise that actively rewrites history with regard to women, I've watched it happen particularly over the last five years. All feminists need to write them and tell them they won't donate anymore ever.
This generation of internet addled males have the WORST mindset, I followed islam closely for about a decade until I just couldn't take it anymore, and I think it's extremely dangerous to culture that the intersection of males who control tech and the content have the same mindset as islamofascist misogynists. This is not harm-free. These males have created a culture that is sterilizing and mutilating the next generation of feminists. It's insane the influence they have. They have caused untold suicides via proliferation of revenge porn and "sextortion" against minors, this and two others happened this year https://www.adirondackdailyenterprise.com/news/local-news/2021/04/scope-of-cyber-sextortions-teen-victims-unknown/
I don't know where to begin to do something about except oppose the porn tube sites first and foremost. Then fight until section 230 is repealed and tech billionaires must absorb they WILL be forced to pay out huge judgements in the tens of millions to the victims of their crimes. This will force them to DRASTICALLY rework how they moderate content, and it may cause a mass exodus of predators off of these sites. I think that video sharing sites are the wave of the future anyway and sites like facebook/twitter probably won't even be a thing in five years...hopefully it will break off into little servers everywhere instead of large platforms which is what is predicted to happen.
Zuckerberg is a psychopathic bastard of the highest order. And Jack Dorsey of twitter is no better. These men have NO regard whatever for the safey of children. I'm in contact with the mother of Evan McDaniel, who recently took his own life due to cyberbullying. I can't even begin to imagine her grief and bewilderment. I despise this ENTIRE population of tech geeks that have wrought this nightmare on women and children, they have driven society back 100 years and absolutely don't care.
correction Evan was encouraged to commit suicide by his perpetrator who initially posed as a woman and encouraged him to send her intimate photos then the perp threatened Evan with exposure of the photos online and told him his life was over and he might as well commit suicide, he was 14.
This is all they have, silencing, cancellation, deletion, etc. They don't have an actual counter-argument to anything from the GC point of view. All this power they wield and yet still claim to be the victims, the underdogs, the oppressed. Gimme a fucking break.
I used to be a yearly donator but stopped donating years ago. Pile of crap.
She won't be forgotten.
You know, we need our own version of wiki. Something making a record of this whole battle and its people, from beginning to end. No matter how this ends. It needs to be documented before history slanders us all as transphobes and bigots.
And when it ends, and the questions start, "how did this happen?!" "Why didn't anyone try to stop it" we can just forward them to our page.
Shelley, thanks for that information, word is finally getting out, I heard recently that one guy writes a third of their content which everyone was lauding him for but which is really a terrible situation
By and large wikipedia has become incredibly misogynistic as a source...it is great for sources if you go to the bottoms of articles, but entries on women, cultures, etc have leaned more and more misogynist and dismissive of women over the years, I can't even believe what I am reading anymore on that site compared to how it used to be. In particular we need a feminist wikipedia if incels are dominating this one. One entry I read on the Mosuo culture recently said that this culture is matrilineal because the ruling males 'let' them do this so as not to threaten their leadership, which is the biggest crock of hooey (their matrilineal culture predates patriarchy and the same systems are found in Indigenous American tribes such as the Cherokee as well). With regard to women and women's history wikipedia is absolutely rewriting history in every way that it possibly can, it is a pile of trash and needs to be ignored at least and drift into obscurity.
For those unaware, there are a small group of "cocks in frocks" who are engineering the erasure of women (@tibby17 most recently), falsely claiming that #FakePinkNews operates following standard journalistic practices while successfully appealing #FakePinkNews' "unreliable source" rating. Perhaps most egregiously, Wikipedia admins allowed propagandist, serial liar and Pink News CEO Benjamin "Joseph Goebbels" to chime in at the end of the appeal process, in violation of Wikipedia's own process. The dots can be connected by looking through the edit history of all these matters and observing which "cocks in frocks" are associated in a variety edits of GC accounts. My own page has been edited by "cocks in frocks" who utilized the lies from #FakePinkNews. Remember, Wikipedia editors are primarily men, a substantial number of whom are aggressive MRAs. Also, never forget that Wikipedia may not be used as a source academically, journalistically, for research, etc due to unreliability and this shite.
Not really. Over the last year and a half I've learned a bit of Brit-ish. Also, I try to play to the room. I promise to not go full Madonna. "Shite" is practically unheard of here.
JP had this on his page yesterday, along with a stream of vitriolic jealousy spewing forth from his bitter little mouth. I sang Magdalen's praises, said how courageous she was, how she cared for women, for children, put a link in to her wonderful video channel, which is here, for those not aware:
....then put in individual links to her talking about Alex The Beard, and you talking to her sister too. I also said how wonderful it is that so many 1000s remember Magdalen, and with love and respect....and that I wondered if anyone would remember him after his death in the same way.
He blocked me. (Where's that chuckling smiley) ;0)
His frustration could be heard on my side of the screen....as he realized his thread had become All About Magdalen but in a very positive light.
I was so happy to see Magdalen's video about Alex Drummond posted on a previous thread. She was so good, to the point and very funny. "Their minds are so open their brains fell out" is PRICELESS!
I was familiar with the name and the smears attached to it but I had no idea she died so young; I just assumed she was an old school feminist activist of the Germaine Greer mold who died of natural causes (my bad).
That makes their posthumous libelling even more heinous. Fuck me, they really are the devil's minions.
Delete her wiki page if you must. But it does not, and never can delete her legacy. She can’t be erased that easily! Deleting her wiki entry doesn’t magically erase her life, her words and the impact she’s had on feminism and it’s allies. A poxy web page is nothing! It is the most hollow, paltry victory for TRAs imaginable. We will just rise above. Quote her more and make her words ring out!
as a friend said tonight, she's bigger than wikipedia.
absolutely it won't. What they are doing though is far more insidious then that, they are rewriting women right out of history, and in places where they can't do so, they are vastly undercutting their signficance by quoting male naysaying scholars and undermining their credibility and relevance. I read an entry on Mary Magdalen recently that had the gall to say she "might have even been an unwilling voyer" to the execution of Christ and His ministry rather than a beloved apostle, to which many sources attest, and possibly even his human companion, or even wife. That's just one example of the bias there, rather than give a balanced view or include new information, they are obviously in an effort to re-bury new theories that come up and write women right back out of history at every interchange. I was trying to find the name of the new CEO and tell them I'm never linking them as a source ever again, but as yet I haven't found a name.
Yep, Wiki is full of cranks anyway
I am so glad people are saying this. So obviously it's a well known thing. It can be a great resource for the sources from which they start which are listed at the bottoms of the articles but anymore I wouldn't trust a single word written in wikipedia as it has become a blatantly misogynist enterprise that actively rewrites history with regard to women, I've watched it happen particularly over the last five years. All feminists need to write them and tell them they won't donate anymore ever.
This generation of internet addled males have the WORST mindset, I followed islam closely for about a decade until I just couldn't take it anymore, and I think it's extremely dangerous to culture that the intersection of males who control tech and the content have the same mindset as islamofascist misogynists. This is not harm-free. These males have created a culture that is sterilizing and mutilating the next generation of feminists. It's insane the influence they have. They have caused untold suicides via proliferation of revenge porn and "sextortion" against minors, this and two others happened this year https://www.adirondackdailyenterprise.com/news/local-news/2021/04/scope-of-cyber-sextortions-teen-victims-unknown/
I don't know where to begin to do something about except oppose the porn tube sites first and foremost. Then fight until section 230 is repealed and tech billionaires must absorb they WILL be forced to pay out huge judgements in the tens of millions to the victims of their crimes. This will force them to DRASTICALLY rework how they moderate content, and it may cause a mass exodus of predators off of these sites. I think that video sharing sites are the wave of the future anyway and sites like facebook/twitter probably won't even be a thing in five years...hopefully it will break off into little servers everywhere instead of large platforms which is what is predicted to happen.
The worst emergency right now is that Zuckerberg is planning to flood the world with child porn via his new "kids instagram"...I'm really getting suspicious about this creep as authorities are begging him not to start this as there has been a rash of sextortion against young teens who've ended up completing suicide due to being groomed by crimnal gangs. https://www.forbes.com/sites/jemimamcevoy/2021/05/10/44-attorneys-general-urge-facebook-to-nix-instagram-for-kids-as-they-warn-of-sexual-grooming-bullying/?sh=2629cf541269
Zuckerberg is a psychopathic bastard of the highest order. And Jack Dorsey of twitter is no better. These men have NO regard whatever for the safey of children. I'm in contact with the mother of Evan McDaniel, who recently took his own life due to cyberbullying. I can't even begin to imagine her grief and bewilderment. I despise this ENTIRE population of tech geeks that have wrought this nightmare on women and children, they have driven society back 100 years and absolutely don't care.
https://www.koaa.com/news/deep-dive/fbi-estimates-500-000-online-predators-are-a-daily-threat-to-kids-going-online
sorry for the long post.
correction Evan was encouraged to commit suicide by his perpetrator who initially posed as a woman and encouraged him to send her intimate photos then the perp threatened Evan with exposure of the photos online and told him his life was over and he might as well commit suicide, he was 14.
And they call us ‘Nazi’s’!… Burn the books, delete the opposition, silence the critics!
Yet still people cry "where are the feminists?'
Exactly! Right here where we’ve always been
Bastards. Long live Magdalen.
This is all they have, silencing, cancellation, deletion, etc. They don't have an actual counter-argument to anything from the GC point of view. All this power they wield and yet still claim to be the victims, the underdogs, the oppressed. Gimme a fucking break.
I used to be a yearly donator but stopped donating years ago. Pile of crap.
She won't be forgotten.
You know, we need our own version of wiki. Something making a record of this whole battle and its people, from beginning to end. No matter how this ends. It needs to be documented before history slanders us all as transphobes and bigots.
And when it ends, and the questions start, "how did this happen?!" "Why didn't anyone try to stop it" we can just forward them to our page.
Shelley, thanks for that information, word is finally getting out, I heard recently that one guy writes a third of their content which everyone was lauding him for but which is really a terrible situation
By and large wikipedia has become incredibly misogynistic as a source...it is great for sources if you go to the bottoms of articles, but entries on women, cultures, etc have leaned more and more misogynist and dismissive of women over the years, I can't even believe what I am reading anymore on that site compared to how it used to be. In particular we need a feminist wikipedia if incels are dominating this one. One entry I read on the Mosuo culture recently said that this culture is matrilineal because the ruling males 'let' them do this so as not to threaten their leadership, which is the biggest crock of hooey (their matrilineal culture predates patriarchy and the same systems are found in Indigenous American tribes such as the Cherokee as well). With regard to women and women's history wikipedia is absolutely rewriting history in every way that it possibly can, it is a pile of trash and needs to be ignored at least and drift into obscurity.
Her videos alerted me to the crisis being wrought on lesbians and women by tiresome narcissistic personality disordered men.
She was fiercely intelligent and very funny with her take downs.
We will finish the work she started in her memory.
For those unaware, there are a small group of "cocks in frocks" who are engineering the erasure of women (@tibby17 most recently), falsely claiming that #FakePinkNews operates following standard journalistic practices while successfully appealing #FakePinkNews' "unreliable source" rating. Perhaps most egregiously, Wikipedia admins allowed propagandist, serial liar and Pink News CEO Benjamin "Joseph Goebbels" to chime in at the end of the appeal process, in violation of Wikipedia's own process. The dots can be connected by looking through the edit history of all these matters and observing which "cocks in frocks" are associated in a variety edits of GC accounts. My own page has been edited by "cocks in frocks" who utilized the lies from #FakePinkNews. Remember, Wikipedia editors are primarily men, a substantial number of whom are aggressive MRAs. Also, never forget that Wikipedia may not be used as a source academically, journalistically, for research, etc due to unreliability and this shite.
Frock is such a great word. Is it used in the USA too?
Clowns in gowns
Not really. Over the last year and a half I've learned a bit of Brit-ish. Also, I try to play to the room. I promise to not go full Madonna. "Shite" is practically unheard of here.
Gobshite is a goodun
JP had this on his page yesterday, along with a stream of vitriolic jealousy spewing forth from his bitter little mouth. I sang Magdalen's praises, said how courageous she was, how she cared for women, for children, put a link in to her wonderful video channel, which is here, for those not aware:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvTTakI97sQ4SkMnsH8r0qQ
....then put in individual links to her talking about Alex The Beard, and you talking to her sister too. I also said how wonderful it is that so many 1000s remember Magdalen, and with love and respect....and that I wondered if anyone would remember him after his death in the same way.
He blocked me. (Where's that chuckling smiley) ;0)
His frustration could be heard on my side of the screen....as he realized his thread had become All About Magdalen but in a very positive light.
JP? The long red haired guy?
JP?
I was so happy to see Magdalen's video about Alex Drummond posted on a previous thread. She was so good, to the point and very funny. "Their minds are so open their brains fell out" is PRICELESS!
We will not let ANYONE erase Magdalen Berns.
And these turds throw a wobble if anyone dare use their 'deadname' but are ecstatically happy if they can erase a real life name of a dead woman. FFS!
I know this is off topic but has channel 4 dropped stonewall
there's so much news atm, I actually forgot to post about this. I'm sure JL will have it in the Good News roundup!
OFSTED now as well.
oh, wow!
In here...and all over Twitter at present: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/06/04/stonewall-raised-concerns-ofsted-inspectors-dont-always-discuss/?utm_content=telegraph&utm_medium=Social&utm_campaign=Echobox&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1622837485
They said ‘scandal’! Finally!
Heard this? From Elly Barnes of 'Educate & Celebrate'. I've seen her before, on Youtube, but this interview is mind-blowing, for all the WRONG reasons. Talk about control freakery! https://www.persyou.com/podcast/episode/4cfb69f1/educate-and-celebrate
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/channel-4-quits-stonewall-scheme-amid-legal-advice-scandal-m80rjcwzz
Thats what I heard.
It would be great if it was true
I whooped when I heard about it (from Graham here I think).
I was familiar with the name and the smears attached to it but I had no idea she died so young; I just assumed she was an old school feminist activist of the Germaine Greer mold who died of natural causes (my bad).
That makes their posthumous libelling even more heinous. Fuck me, they really are the devil's minions.
Go to the wiki page and scroll to the bottom. Click on where it says last edited by McPhail. One of his other entries is Berns = anti-Semite.
Are you fucking joking or what!?
It's been recently re-editted by Jusdafax, about half an hour ago (it's ten past seven in the UK right now, so approx at 6:40 pm)
Do you know if there’s a way to see edits? I’m not very clued up on how wiki works.
Same here, no idea.
I'm registered with Wikipedia as an editor. I will put in a "good word"!
It's like the final sting of a dying wasp!