I have to congratulate Tracey on her restraint. The whole misogynist agenda is rage worthy. How do these woke people not see that they're promoting the absurd idea that men are better at womanhood than actual women? Better at being lesbians? C'mon, ladies, let a man lecture you about your existence, he's an expert on it! Just as if it's 1822 and not 2022.
Just like those vicious trolls comparing JKR's middle-aged completely natural female boobs to their own MtF perky moobs. My current favourite quote for peaking people is from Caitlyn Jenner who said "the hardest part of being a woman is deciding what clothes to wear!"
Did you see him talking to Piers Morgan tonight about TiMs in female sports? He said that boys who've been given puberty blockers from aged 4 or so who would then grow up to be girls (!!!??) should be allowed to participate in women's sport??? GROW TO BE GIRLS..what with a cervix you stupid dangerous man!😳🙄😡
They're all transhumanists. They want to see the melding of IT and biology. And for that they're preparing the laws to give superior rights to transhumanists via this transgender tyranny. The disturbing thing is that there seems to be plenty of men on the womens side of this transgender argument (if you can call it an argument) who are also transhumanists.
Hi Susan, there's Martine (formerly Martin) Rothblatt's book "From Transgender to Transhuman: A Manifesto on the Freedom of Form." I haven't read it (I don't think I could stand it), but the links between the two movements seem pretty clear.
There's also the US Transhumanist Party, which talks about "enhancing children's rights", "morphological freedom", and opposition to "intolerant...anti-technological and compulsion-imposing doctrines", all of which suggests they are strongly pro-trans. https://transhumanist-party.org/values/ Fortunately I doubt they'd ever be electable...
Hi, Shacklit, I know what you reference, what I didn't know was Ungovernable's reference to men who don't support transgenderism but who do support transhumanism. He is apparently going to write something about that, but I was unfamiliar with it. Does it go something like this: "I don't support this one lunacy, but I do support this other lunacy"?
Appalled that this happened, very sorry that Tracey had to experience this. Very well written. The unasked question (does Rosie's actually female wife now consider herself a lesbian?) is a crucial one!
It's an interesting question. I know someone who identifies as a gender non-conforming trans gay person (they/theirs pronouns) who is femme presenting a.k.a. a female, who is in a relationship with a heterosexual man who does not identify as gay. Therfore now, gay people are in heterosexual relationships. It's simply ridiculous.
Indeed, though to her (preumably) it's perfectly clear and anyone that dares to question it is a bigot and a transphobe and it too hung up on genitals. (Also, definitely not my friend).
That whole "hung up on genitals" argument just shows up the delusionists and perverts who actually are the ones who are focused on genitalia and assume that everyone else is too. They prove it when they say something like "How can you tell if a transwoman is male -- do you want to check their pants?", when it is (nearly always) obvious just from looking at someone that they are male!
Absolutely! I didn't have to check out Lia Thomas's pelvic area to know that he is a man. They can make that area as smooth as Barbie's and biological sex is still obvious because genitals are not the only physical differentiating factor. But they know this, they're just trying to capture people in a trap who will then have to defend against such a ridiculous statement. You put Barbie and Action Man in an unclothed line up and we still know what sex they represent and not just because one carries a handbag and has long blonde hair and the other has short hair and carries a gun. (I always hated Barbie as a kid as I could not identify with her being a tom boy).
Indeed. I also hardly ever played with dolls of any kind (and never had a Barbie). I think my sister had a Sindy which I liked for a while. I did have a cloth dolly my mum made from Clothkits and I liked my teddies who were the willing testers of my experiments at making perfume out of grass, rose petals and water!
And yes, my tomboy self found her distortions, her imposed sexiness creepy, didn't want one. Malformed feet that could only wear high heels, that wouldn't have been able to walk normally or run? She was only about ditsy clothing, glam hair, accessories (hmm, who does that remind of...).
I'm becoming more and more desensitised to all that I read about this perverse behaviour and it's making me so sad. I just feel, as women, that we are being muzzled and pinned to the floor and repeatedly abused, degraded and talked down to by delusional men (& handmaidens). Where are our protections and rights, the defence of our womanhood (our children too) from womanface? It's like screaming in the wind! Well done Tracey for having the strength to attend, just wish you'd had someone to stand by you, maybe you did but were cleverly screened, as you suggested🙄. Crazy times, I'm just looking for that flickering light of hope at the end of the tunnel to gain strength and explode!! Preferably before I leave this earth!!
Really appreciate you having gone along to this event, Tracey, and done what you could to spread a little sanity. But it really is just grotesque that, not for the first time, a man gets to headline a lesbian event.
Inviting a heterosexual bloke to dominate a lesbian visibility event is so typical, it's just men getting off on dominating women and gloating that they have the upper hand and have stacked the decks so that women are powerless. Challenge them and you are booted from the event.
It's like the other perverts who crow about wiping their crusty dicks on the toilet roll in women's toilets, or who gloat over wanking into women's underwear in M&S changing rooms, and then carefully folding the soiled garment back into the packet and putting it back on the shelf. Sick bastards.
The only consolation is that are not, and never will be any kind of woman. And no lesbian will ever find them the slightest bit attractive.
Well, some pervert has boasted about it, so they obviously want to do it. Whether it actually happened is moot. In the days when M&S were still on my list of permitted suppliers, they use to have one ‘display’ item on the appropriate rack of packaged ones. There were notices asking people not to undo the packs. You were also not allowed to take underwear into the changing rooms, since you were ‘asked’ not to try it on for ‘ hygienic reasons’.
So I’m not sure how this bloke managed to get the knickers into the changing room, or how he managed to repack them in such a way as to escape detection ( those packs tend to tear when you open them). I suppose he could have smuggled them in under his coat, I don’t think they are valuable enough to be tagged. I tend to think this is wishing and hoping.
Although given M£S fervent embrace of men buying women’s underwear for jerking off or sexual role playing ( some chap posted this as a rating in a review on their website and they refused to take it down although more than a thousand people wrote and complained) it’s possible that they made an exception in his case.
It’s also possible that the poor girl on the changing room entrance was just too afraid to say anything.
But they're just women, trans women make better, improved women, and better lesbians too. The old fashioned, pre gender identity/queer theory Lesbians are left with the choice to be compliant or fuck off.
Self-hating gay couple, displacing their hate onto women; instead of the sexist sentiment of "which of you guys is the woman in your relationship?" being criticized, it's being positively embraced.
"I care deeply that his dominating presence at a meeting to celebrate lesbianism was allowed to happen".
Not surprised he dominated. Men tend to control mixed sex conversations. It's why women only spaces are essential.
"For instance, one study analyzed 31 separate two-part conversations, 10 of which were between two men, 10 of which were between two women, and 11 of which were between a man and a woman. The researchers identified seven interruptions overall in the two same-sex groups combined; in the male-female groups, however, the researchers found 48 total interruptions—and 46 of them were instigated by the man. "There are definite and patterned ways in which the power and dominance enjoyed by men in other contexts are exercised in their conversational interaction with women," the researchers wrote."
The worst thing about this whole misogynistic, homophobic belief system is how complicit our media, (de)education system and politicians are in facilitating it.
Tracey - I’m so sorry you were subjected to that horrible experience. The University of Edinburgh has obviously abandoned the purpose of universities - education, free speech and the contest of ideas.
I have just watched a really good Channel 4 woodworking competition, marred only by the repeated reference by the host, to strapping bald bloke Misti (who wears eyeliner and favours over-the-knee boots and short shorts or leggings, as 'she'. Perfectly nice-appearing man - very talented and interesting, but I cannot stomach the gaslighting.
stunning n brave C4 - BBC level. personally I'd be glad if it was sold off at this point then keep BBC for subscription - at least there are no adverts ... except for itself ... not ocourse stunning n brave enuf to put the Northern Ireland prog criticising Stonewall on Beeb 1. o-oh off on a rant again sry.
Thanks for sharing this, Graham. What is it about trans-identified men that they think they have the right to invade womanhood and tell us that we’re doing it wrong? Once again, shame on Edinburgh University for succumbing to the fantasy that is trans ideology.
Utter madness! One of the comforts of growing old, as I have, is the knowledge that I won't have to hear this shite much longer. You all have my condolences.
That will be the same University that praised my lecturer ex for 'transitioning' and declared he was a lesbian had nothing to say to me at all. I rage with you Tracey.
I have to congratulate Tracey on her restraint. The whole misogynist agenda is rage worthy. How do these woke people not see that they're promoting the absurd idea that men are better at womanhood than actual women? Better at being lesbians? C'mon, ladies, let a man lecture you about your existence, he's an expert on it! Just as if it's 1822 and not 2022.
Just like those vicious trolls comparing JKR's middle-aged completely natural female boobs to their own MtF perky moobs. My current favourite quote for peaking people is from Caitlyn Jenner who said "the hardest part of being a woman is deciding what clothes to wear!"
Did you see him talking to Piers Morgan tonight about TiMs in female sports? He said that boys who've been given puberty blockers from aged 4 or so who would then grow up to be girls (!!!??) should be allowed to participate in women's sport??? GROW TO BE GIRLS..what with a cervix you stupid dangerous man!😳🙄😡
What... after all those years on powerful drugs I doubt they'd be able to participate in *any* sport.
That did cross my mind too🤭.
Anybody who gave a four year old puberty blockers should be in jail.
No boys given puberty blockers from age 4 would ever grow up at all.
Open season for Pedophiles innit?
Or necrophiles?
They're all transhumanists. They want to see the melding of IT and biology. And for that they're preparing the laws to give superior rights to transhumanists via this transgender tyranny. The disturbing thing is that there seems to be plenty of men on the womens side of this transgender argument (if you can call it an argument) who are also transhumanists.
Can you share a link?
Hi Susan, there's Martine (formerly Martin) Rothblatt's book "From Transgender to Transhuman: A Manifesto on the Freedom of Form." I haven't read it (I don't think I could stand it), but the links between the two movements seem pretty clear.
https://www.amazon.com/Transgender-Transhuman-Manifesto-Freedom-Form-ebook/dp/B0054SCPKQ
There's also the US Transhumanist Party, which talks about "enhancing children's rights", "morphological freedom", and opposition to "intolerant...anti-technological and compulsion-imposing doctrines", all of which suggests they are strongly pro-trans. https://transhumanist-party.org/values/ Fortunately I doubt they'd ever be electable...
Hi, Shacklit, I know what you reference, what I didn't know was Ungovernable's reference to men who don't support transgenderism but who do support transhumanism. He is apparently going to write something about that, but I was unfamiliar with it. Does it go something like this: "I don't support this one lunacy, but I do support this other lunacy"?
Martine Rothblatt's net worth is $585 million. Made off of pharmaceuticals.
From the father of four's listing on Forbes' 'America's Self-Made Women (2021)' list (Mr Rothblatt comes in at #56), a couple of fun facts:
'Source of Wealth: pharmaceuticals, Self Made' (he takes 'Self Made' to a whole new meaning?)
'The company's pig 'pharm' in Blacksburg, Virginia is the world's largest cloner of pigs.' (I say nothing.)
'In Their Own Words
"I'm a person who likes to hear why something can't be done and I'll whittle down every one of the can'ts one at a time." – Martine Rothblatt'
Maybe in a few weeks. It's something that I'm thinking of writing about.
I was under the impression that they love the misogyny, while being pure. Double win.
Appalled that this happened, very sorry that Tracey had to experience this. Very well written. The unasked question (does Rosie's actually female wife now consider herself a lesbian?) is a crucial one!
It's an interesting question. I know someone who identifies as a gender non-conforming trans gay person (they/theirs pronouns) who is femme presenting a.k.a. a female, who is in a relationship with a heterosexual man who does not identify as gay. Therfore now, gay people are in heterosexual relationships. It's simply ridiculous.
Your GNCTG femme presenting friend sounds more than a bit confused!
Indeed, though to her (preumably) it's perfectly clear and anyone that dares to question it is a bigot and a transphobe and it too hung up on genitals. (Also, definitely not my friend).
That whole "hung up on genitals" argument just shows up the delusionists and perverts who actually are the ones who are focused on genitalia and assume that everyone else is too. They prove it when they say something like "How can you tell if a transwoman is male -- do you want to check their pants?", when it is (nearly always) obvious just from looking at someone that they are male!
Absolutely! I didn't have to check out Lia Thomas's pelvic area to know that he is a man. They can make that area as smooth as Barbie's and biological sex is still obvious because genitals are not the only physical differentiating factor. But they know this, they're just trying to capture people in a trap who will then have to defend against such a ridiculous statement. You put Barbie and Action Man in an unclothed line up and we still know what sex they represent and not just because one carries a handbag and has long blonde hair and the other has short hair and carries a gun. (I always hated Barbie as a kid as I could not identify with her being a tom boy).
Indeed. I also hardly ever played with dolls of any kind (and never had a Barbie). I think my sister had a Sindy which I liked for a while. I did have a cloth dolly my mum made from Clothkits and I liked my teddies who were the willing testers of my experiments at making perfume out of grass, rose petals and water!
What Barbie was modelled on
https://www.messynessychic.com/2016/01/29/meet-lilli-the-high-end-german-call-girl-who-became-americas-iconic-barbie-doll/
And yes, my tomboy self found her distortions, her imposed sexiness creepy, didn't want one. Malformed feet that could only wear high heels, that wouldn't have been able to walk normally or run? She was only about ditsy clothing, glam hair, accessories (hmm, who does that remind of...).
I'm confused 😜😂
it's lesbian exploitation. EDIT to be clear - exploitation of lesbianism.
to be clear since I can't edit for some reason - exploitation of lesbianism/lesbians.
Ahem Stockholm syndrome ahem
I'm becoming more and more desensitised to all that I read about this perverse behaviour and it's making me so sad. I just feel, as women, that we are being muzzled and pinned to the floor and repeatedly abused, degraded and talked down to by delusional men (& handmaidens). Where are our protections and rights, the defence of our womanhood (our children too) from womanface? It's like screaming in the wind! Well done Tracey for having the strength to attend, just wish you'd had someone to stand by you, maybe you did but were cleverly screened, as you suggested🙄. Crazy times, I'm just looking for that flickering light of hope at the end of the tunnel to gain strength and explode!! Preferably before I leave this earth!!
Really appreciate you having gone along to this event, Tracey, and done what you could to spread a little sanity. But it really is just grotesque that, not for the first time, a man gets to headline a lesbian event.
I love the (sic) next to the 'her'. Another brilliant way to out the imposters :-)
Me too!
Yes! It makes me physically sic (sic).
Inviting a heterosexual bloke to dominate a lesbian visibility event is so typical, it's just men getting off on dominating women and gloating that they have the upper hand and have stacked the decks so that women are powerless. Challenge them and you are booted from the event.
It's like the other perverts who crow about wiping their crusty dicks on the toilet roll in women's toilets, or who gloat over wanking into women's underwear in M&S changing rooms, and then carefully folding the soiled garment back into the packet and putting it back on the shelf. Sick bastards.
The only consolation is that are not, and never will be any kind of woman. And no lesbian will ever find them the slightest bit attractive.
I recommended this while at the same time 🤢. Has that M&S thing actually happened?
Well, some pervert has boasted about it, so they obviously want to do it. Whether it actually happened is moot. In the days when M&S were still on my list of permitted suppliers, they use to have one ‘display’ item on the appropriate rack of packaged ones. There were notices asking people not to undo the packs. You were also not allowed to take underwear into the changing rooms, since you were ‘asked’ not to try it on for ‘ hygienic reasons’.
So I’m not sure how this bloke managed to get the knickers into the changing room, or how he managed to repack them in such a way as to escape detection ( those packs tend to tear when you open them). I suppose he could have smuggled them in under his coat, I don’t think they are valuable enough to be tagged. I tend to think this is wishing and hoping.
Although given M£S fervent embrace of men buying women’s underwear for jerking off or sexual role playing ( some chap posted this as a rating in a review on their website and they refused to take it down although more than a thousand people wrote and complained) it’s possible that they made an exception in his case.
It’s also possible that the poor girl on the changing room entrance was just too afraid to say anything.
I'm appalled that Tracey (and presumably others), were treated in this manner and ironically sidelined at an event which should have celebrated them.
But they're just women, trans women make better, improved women, and better lesbians too. The old fashioned, pre gender identity/queer theory Lesbians are left with the choice to be compliant or fuck off.
Men make better women so ergo they make better lesbians too!
But these Lesbian 2.0s never pair up with each other!
It's almost as if they're not actually same-sex attracted and have a [gasp] genital preference!
I know, it's weird, they don't seem to like lady dicks themselves, but expect lesbians to.
Surely that makes them a transphobe bigot...!
I know one such couple. Two dudes, pretending to be women. I can't help imagining that it must be ... challenging.
Gay couple.
Self-hating gay couple, displacing their hate onto women; instead of the sexist sentiment of "which of you guys is the woman in your relationship?" being criticized, it's being positively embraced.
Juno Dawson is very keen to point out that his boyfriend is NOT GAY
Funny thing, that!
Men make women the UGLY SEX when they do this ( claim womanhood )
Brilliant post. What a shame you had to write it. Male ‘lesbians’ and the space they are being given, make me ‘sic.’
Yes, a 'sic' joke
Can someone please explain the difference between a man pestering lesbians and man named Susan pestering lesbians, using facts? Thanks!
"I care deeply that his dominating presence at a meeting to celebrate lesbianism was allowed to happen".
Not surprised he dominated. Men tend to control mixed sex conversations. It's why women only spaces are essential.
"For instance, one study analyzed 31 separate two-part conversations, 10 of which were between two men, 10 of which were between two women, and 11 of which were between a man and a woman. The researchers identified seven interruptions overall in the two same-sex groups combined; in the male-female groups, however, the researchers found 48 total interruptions—and 46 of them were instigated by the man. "There are definite and patterned ways in which the power and dominance enjoyed by men in other contexts are exercised in their conversational interaction with women," the researchers wrote."
https://www.advisory.com/daily-briefing/2017/07/07/men-interrupting-women
The worst thing about this whole misogynistic, homophobic belief system is how complicit our media, (de)education system and politicians are in facilitating it.
Tracey - I’m so sorry you were subjected to that horrible experience. The University of Edinburgh has obviously abandoned the purpose of universities - education, free speech and the contest of ideas.
I have just watched a really good Channel 4 woodworking competition, marred only by the repeated reference by the host, to strapping bald bloke Misti (who wears eyeliner and favours over-the-knee boots and short shorts or leggings, as 'she'. Perfectly nice-appearing man - very talented and interesting, but I cannot stomach the gaslighting.
Apparently there was a documentary on C4 last night called Where have all the Lesbians gone? which unironically included fawning over male "lesbians".
I could not face it.
stunning n brave C4 - BBC level. personally I'd be glad if it was sold off at this point then keep BBC for subscription - at least there are no adverts ... except for itself ... not ocourse stunning n brave enuf to put the Northern Ireland prog criticising Stonewall on Beeb 1. o-oh off on a rant again sry.
Thanks for shining a light on the gender id extremists. Solidarity!
Thanks for sharing this, Graham. What is it about trans-identified men that they think they have the right to invade womanhood and tell us that we’re doing it wrong? Once again, shame on Edinburgh University for succumbing to the fantasy that is trans ideology.
And that midwife thing was at Edinburgh Napier University.
ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11
Utter madness! One of the comforts of growing old, as I have, is the knowledge that I won't have to hear this shite much longer. You all have my condolences.
Bravo Tracey! This situation is worthy of an entire sitcom in itself... utterly farcical
That will be the same University that praised my lecturer ex for 'transitioning' and declared he was a lesbian had nothing to say to me at all. I rage with you Tracey.
wow - so sry to read that.