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Nice on all counts to hear there are still rational, sane and amusing adults in the room instead of the extremes women generally have to navigate their personal lives around. Authoritarian religious, or simply medievally bigoted types of off the planet fantasists or bureaucrats avoiding transparency and consequences for what has been perpetrated against women as class under many guises that don’t live in or comprehend or listen to the experience of material reality, suffer internalised misogyny and handmaidenship, so they can prosper themselves and have no respect or empathy for women and particularly working class women and their children.Who really, if we’re honest, are simply kept as targets for “blame” and unpaid and cheap labour and sex resource for predatory men and cannot access their human or legal rights, support or resources they are entitled to. It’s always a pleasure to hear people who get it and Arty Morty’s incisive quick analytical style is just so spot on its lovely to hear again. Big ups to you all from out here from a lone voice in the wilderness of NZ where political and bureaucratic capture and corruption and hatred and sexualisation and exploitation for men of women and children is complete. I can’t thank you all enough for all women who are gaslit, isolated and terrorised into thinking they’re imagining it and where the DARVO is endemic and personal property children and resources are diverted away from any woman speaking up into the hands of abusive men. Privilege comes with responsibility and we don’t see much of those with privilege taking responsibility, being transparent or accountability in this country. We will be the next frontier after Aussie I guess although the institutional barriers against women are being strengthened and erected, at pace, here now to destroy women’s rights even further (most Kiwi women don’t even now they have rights..and wonder why they fail in going toe to toe armed only with facts and evidence with men and their handmaidens of all classes.). Off to try Giggle.😀😀

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Nice on all counts to hear there are still rational, sane and amusing adults in the room instead of the extremes women generally have to navigate their personal lives around. Authoritarian religious, or simply medievally bigoted types of off the planet fantasists or bureaucrats avoiding transparency and consequences for what has been perpetrated against women as class under many guises that don’t live in or comprehend or listen to the experience of material reality, suffer internalised misogyny and handmaidenship, so they can prosper themselves and have no respect or empathy for women and particularly working class women and their children.Who really, if we’re honest, are simply kept as targets for “blame” and unpaid and cheap labour and sex resource for predatory men and cannot access their human or legal rights, support or resources they are entitled to. It’s always a pleasure to hear people who get it and Arty Morty’s incisive quick analytical style is just so spot on its lovely to hear again. Big ups to you all from out here from a lone voice in the wilderness of NZ where political and bureaucratic capture and corruption and hatred and sexualisation and exploitation for men of women and children is complete. I can’t thank you all enough for all women who are gaslit, isolated and terrorised into thinking they’re imagining it and where the DARVO is endemic and personal property children and resources are diverted away from any woman speaking up into the hands of abusive men. Privilege comes with responsibility and we don’t see much of those with privilege taking responsibility, being transparent or accountability in this country. We will be the next frontier after Aussie I guess although the institutional barriers against women are being strengthened and erected, at pace, here now to destroy women’s rights even further (most Kiwi women don’t even now they have rights..and wonder why they fail in going toe to toe armed only with facts and evidence with men and their handmaidens of all classes.). Off to try Giggle.😀😀

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The "inciting violence" thing is interesting.

I don't know if anyone remembers the consensual S&M case in the late 80s, early 90s, when the Met initially thought they'd stumbled on horrific torture & murder evidence.

It turned out it was consensual & everyone - all men - were alive, but they decided to prosecute anyway (on the grounds that saying "please hit me" constitutes incitement), and some of the men died in prison.

I think since then the police have been very very reluctant to get involved in actual incitement to actual non-consensual violence, which social media has massively amplified.

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