Haha, love it Moley and Graham. Top down indeed. Signed, sealed, and delivered in backrooms everywhere with zero input from the public. The complete opposite of a civil rights movement. How dare they try to frame this as a movement for claiming rights, when in fact they are determinedly stealing rights. Not only from women, but from children and men too. The most basic right to speak of the reality before our eyes was very nearly taken. It's the Patriarchy's final and most dangerous thievery -- the theft of the existential meaning of 'woman'. Thank you to all the brave people who pushed back. i shudder at what the world could have become without all of you.
Laurie Penny, straight woman in a heterosexual relationship desperately trying to be relevant because she once fkd a guy who's now a transvestite. As my old mum would say " she's more to be pitied than laughed at".
Jeanette Winterson is a great personal disappointment to me. Russell T Davies may have written some great scripts but he’s a twat. Emma Watson is not worth boiling my piss over. She will be long forgotten before JKR ever will. The woman is a legend and a shero to millions.
Too right, and at last nights hustings in Leeds against Sunak..Liz Truss vowed to make all loos in schools and hospitals single sex. Go Liz this old leftie thought.
Well, the point has been made that transgender ideology is an ideology created by the elite, funded by the elite, and pushed by the elite, which seems to fit in with this post!
Fun picture but plenty of stuff to boil my piss here.
Russell T Davis is a twat who has no idea what acting actually means. Much better to hear real actor Simon Callow on Tom Hanks' misguided apology for playing a gay man in Philadelphia.
And speaking of RTD, for all the pyrotechnics of his much lauded Return of Dr Who, I still have more affection for the old cardboard box in that disused quarry. I'll be accused of the old rose tinted glasses, but I reckon when they left more to the imagination it would actually encourage you to dream. Nowadays no-one needs to dream because it's all there in CGI technicolour. And nobody cares.
There has been a strong case for closing Oxford and Cambridge universities for a long time. They artificially grab too much research funding, and their alumni are disproportionately represented in influential roles. This just adds fuel to the claim.
Hmmm. I'd feel that was a "throwing out the baby with the bathwater".
There are many many other universities (Bristol, Sussex, Durham, those ones in the middle of the country, Edinburgh etc etc) who are just as captured. I have no issue with research funding etc - most other unis don't have research departments to match.
I do have an issue with *any* university boasting they are some institution which supports freedom of speech and thought and then is cancelling, threatening, intimidating, firing students and professors who speak out.
I have an issue with any university that denies science and biology and raises fantasy and ideology above that.
Cut out the ideological capture and then we can get all the universities back to what they should be. Centres for proper debate and freedom of speech and thought.
I don't entirely disagree. I wasn't talking specifically about gender ID, though - Oxbridge is hugely over-represented at the top levels in this country. Simply having gone there is a door-opener, because of the "Old Alumni Club" (not discounting the rivalry between the two, of course). Decision-making and influencing is hugely skewed by people who went to these two universities, as is (as I mentioned), research funding - I've helped apply for funds which I didn't get, but in the next round similarly-worded proposals from an Oxbridge applicant got money. I'm not saying it is directly corrupt, but the two universities exert a huge pull on opinion. Of course, there is no practical way of closing them, but the influence they exert, and the power graduates gain from that influence, should not be underestimated.
Yes, some women are so bloody blind, I think it's even more shocking coming from lesbians. There was a response to Sonia Sodha's article a couple of weeks ago that went "" 'I am a lesbian and agree with Sodha that no one should be pressured to have sex with anyone against their wishes. I am sceptical that many people think otherwise, and find it curious that her evidence for the prominence of the view is the quote from Stonewall’s chief executive that “sexuality is personal… but if, when dating, you are writing off entire groups like people of colour or trans people, it’s worth considering how societal prejudices may have shaped your attraction”. This is not coercive but invites people to reflect on their preferences""
Coercive is exactly what it is. I'm baffled that lesbians cannot see the term 'cotton ceiling' for the dangerous insult that it is.
Yeah, it doesn't take much "reflection" (or any whatsoever) to figure out why, "when dating", lesbians "are writing off entire groups like... trans people", specifically trans-identified men. BECAUSE THEY'RE BLOODY LESBIANS. That's what the word "lesbian" MEANS: "woman who is EXCLUSIVELY same-SEX attracted". That everyone in her dating pool must, first and foremost, be a woman-- by sex, NOT "gender"-- isn't a "preference", it's a REQUIREMENT. Fuckin' DUH.
And what "societal prejudices", pray tell, "may have shaped your attraction" as a lesbian? Since you, and your "attraction", are themselves primary targets of these prejudices? I sure don't think that society has ever encouraged lesbians to be themselves, embrace their attraction to women, and unapologetically exclude all men from their sexual and romantic lives; quite the contrary. Doing this flies in the FACE of societal prejudices. But you know what doesn't? What is very much in line with societal prejudices? Admonishing lesbians to date men who "identify" as women!
Really, this is an attack not only on lesbians, but on sexual orientation as a whole... and on all of us who have one.
I just checked out the letter of support for JKR - astonished to see Jimmy Mulville's name there. WTF?? He supports her but not Graham?? I sent him a letter about Father Ted the musical, think I'll send him another about this hypocrisy.
A real rogues gallery ! They should all be in Madame Tussauds !! Anyone who defends the indefensible ( castration and mutilation of children with hormones and surgery ) deserves to be publicly shamed. Well done ,Graham and Moley 👏👍♥️
Very disappointed in Russell T Davies, I was a big fan including his successful revival of Doctor Who. But his recent pronouncements on 'playing gay' and his deriding of the LGB Alliance have lowered my estimation of him considerably. I was initially excited that he is returning to Doctor Who, but less so in the light of recent events, and he's already cast a trans actor and character in the upcoming 60th anniversary show, so I think we know where all that will end up...
On the topic of Pullman I couldn’t help noticing that, in order to vent his spleen against organised religion, he had to invent an alternate reality where the church had never lost its power. Effectively he had to reverse time a few centuries before he could get on his high horse. Yesterday’s battles are so easy to fight because they have already been won. And thus does the phony rebel craft his own pedestal.
I’ll always think of Owen Jones as “The guy with the charts”. In a debate with Peter Hitchens over covid, OJ actually had one of those ubiquitous statistical graphs printed out which he held up to the camera (as if anyone could see it) and waved it about like some kind of magic talisman.
From my point of view, Emma Watson became the pin-up for a later generation of adolescent males. Thank God I’m not young now!
The Laurie Penny tweet is a belter! It’s the old trick, “Well what do you mean by ‘mean’?”
And of course our Stew Lee ... he reminds me of that Clash lyric,
And this is how the state sponsored “subversives” operate. Like Little Britain’s “Only Gay In The Village”, they think they are so brave for standing up for long dead issues.
Haha, love it Moley and Graham. Top down indeed. Signed, sealed, and delivered in backrooms everywhere with zero input from the public. The complete opposite of a civil rights movement. How dare they try to frame this as a movement for claiming rights, when in fact they are determinedly stealing rights. Not only from women, but from children and men too. The most basic right to speak of the reality before our eyes was very nearly taken. It's the Patriarchy's final and most dangerous thievery -- the theft of the existential meaning of 'woman'. Thank you to all the brave people who pushed back. i shudder at what the world could have become without all of you.
Laurie Penny, straight woman in a heterosexual relationship desperately trying to be relevant because she once fkd a guy who's now a transvestite. As my old mum would say " she's more to be pitied than laughed at".
Any woman who touched Gross Lavatory with a ten-foot pole is to be pitied!
Oh I think laughing at her works very well indeed. To pity a person implies they are partly victim of circumstance. This one is not.
What do gender-critical people have all over gender ideologists? LAUGHTER!
Jeanette Winterson is a great personal disappointment to me. Russell T Davies may have written some great scripts but he’s a twat. Emma Watson is not worth boiling my piss over. She will be long forgotten before JKR ever will. The woman is a legend and a shero to millions.
Too right, and at last nights hustings in Leeds against Sunak..Liz Truss vowed to make all loos in schools and hospitals single sex. Go Liz this old leftie thought.
Well, the point has been made that transgender ideology is an ideology created by the elite, funded by the elite, and pushed by the elite, which seems to fit in with this post!
Fun picture but plenty of stuff to boil my piss here.
Russell T Davis is a twat who has no idea what acting actually means. Much better to hear real actor Simon Callow on Tom Hanks' misguided apology for playing a gay man in Philadelphia.
And speaking of RTD, for all the pyrotechnics of his much lauded Return of Dr Who, I still have more affection for the old cardboard box in that disused quarry. I'll be accused of the old rose tinted glasses, but I reckon when they left more to the imagination it would actually encourage you to dream. Nowadays no-one needs to dream because it's all there in CGI technicolour. And nobody cares.
You may be off at a tangent but I quite agree with you
Lest we forget? Oh, we fucking won't.
There has been a strong case for closing Oxford and Cambridge universities for a long time. They artificially grab too much research funding, and their alumni are disproportionately represented in influential roles. This just adds fuel to the claim.
Hmmm. I'd feel that was a "throwing out the baby with the bathwater".
There are many many other universities (Bristol, Sussex, Durham, those ones in the middle of the country, Edinburgh etc etc) who are just as captured. I have no issue with research funding etc - most other unis don't have research departments to match.
I do have an issue with *any* university boasting they are some institution which supports freedom of speech and thought and then is cancelling, threatening, intimidating, firing students and professors who speak out.
I have an issue with any university that denies science and biology and raises fantasy and ideology above that.
Cut out the ideological capture and then we can get all the universities back to what they should be. Centres for proper debate and freedom of speech and thought.
I don't entirely disagree. I wasn't talking specifically about gender ID, though - Oxbridge is hugely over-represented at the top levels in this country. Simply having gone there is a door-opener, because of the "Old Alumni Club" (not discounting the rivalry between the two, of course). Decision-making and influencing is hugely skewed by people who went to these two universities, as is (as I mentioned), research funding - I've helped apply for funds which I didn't get, but in the next round similarly-worded proposals from an Oxbridge applicant got money. I'm not saying it is directly corrupt, but the two universities exert a huge pull on opinion. Of course, there is no practical way of closing them, but the influence they exert, and the power graduates gain from that influence, should not be underestimated.
I'm an Oxford graduate. Somerville 1981. No-one is terfier than me.
Jeanette Winterson: such a disappointment.
Yes, some women are so bloody blind, I think it's even more shocking coming from lesbians. There was a response to Sonia Sodha's article a couple of weeks ago that went "" 'I am a lesbian and agree with Sodha that no one should be pressured to have sex with anyone against their wishes. I am sceptical that many people think otherwise, and find it curious that her evidence for the prominence of the view is the quote from Stonewall’s chief executive that “sexuality is personal… but if, when dating, you are writing off entire groups like people of colour or trans people, it’s worth considering how societal prejudices may have shaped your attraction”. This is not coercive but invites people to reflect on their preferences""
Coercive is exactly what it is. I'm baffled that lesbians cannot see the term 'cotton ceiling' for the dangerous insult that it is.
Yeah, it doesn't take much "reflection" (or any whatsoever) to figure out why, "when dating", lesbians "are writing off entire groups like... trans people", specifically trans-identified men. BECAUSE THEY'RE BLOODY LESBIANS. That's what the word "lesbian" MEANS: "woman who is EXCLUSIVELY same-SEX attracted". That everyone in her dating pool must, first and foremost, be a woman-- by sex, NOT "gender"-- isn't a "preference", it's a REQUIREMENT. Fuckin' DUH.
And what "societal prejudices", pray tell, "may have shaped your attraction" as a lesbian? Since you, and your "attraction", are themselves primary targets of these prejudices? I sure don't think that society has ever encouraged lesbians to be themselves, embrace their attraction to women, and unapologetically exclude all men from their sexual and romantic lives; quite the contrary. Doing this flies in the FACE of societal prejudices. But you know what doesn't? What is very much in line with societal prejudices? Admonishing lesbians to date men who "identify" as women!
Really, this is an attack not only on lesbians, but on sexual orientation as a whole... and on all of us who have one.
Nailed it, Graham. A rogues gallery of privileged charlatans.
I just checked out the letter of support for JKR - astonished to see Jimmy Mulville's name there. WTF?? He supports her but not Graham?? I sent him a letter about Father Ted the musical, think I'll send him another about this hypocrisy.
This is like Arya Stark’s little list…
Interesting. You don't suppose Graham is going to ...........?
He’ll have to do the training in braavos first
A real rogues gallery ! They should all be in Madame Tussauds !! Anyone who defends the indefensible ( castration and mutilation of children with hormones and surgery ) deserves to be publicly shamed. Well done ,Graham and Moley 👏👍♥️
Very disappointed in Russell T Davies, I was a big fan including his successful revival of Doctor Who. But his recent pronouncements on 'playing gay' and his deriding of the LGB Alliance have lowered my estimation of him considerably. I was initially excited that he is returning to Doctor Who, but less so in the light of recent events, and he's already cast a trans actor and character in the upcoming 60th anniversary show, so I think we know where all that will end up...
What a roll call of the damned.
On the topic of Pullman I couldn’t help noticing that, in order to vent his spleen against organised religion, he had to invent an alternate reality where the church had never lost its power. Effectively he had to reverse time a few centuries before he could get on his high horse. Yesterday’s battles are so easy to fight because they have already been won. And thus does the phony rebel craft his own pedestal.
I’ll always think of Owen Jones as “The guy with the charts”. In a debate with Peter Hitchens over covid, OJ actually had one of those ubiquitous statistical graphs printed out which he held up to the camera (as if anyone could see it) and waved it about like some kind of magic talisman.
From my point of view, Emma Watson became the pin-up for a later generation of adolescent males. Thank God I’m not young now!
The Laurie Penny tweet is a belter! It’s the old trick, “Well what do you mean by ‘mean’?”
And of course our Stew Lee ... he reminds me of that Clash lyric,
“But I believe in this
And it’s been tested by research
That he who fucks nuns
Will later join the church”
And this is how the state sponsored “subversives” operate. Like Little Britain’s “Only Gay In The Village”, they think they are so brave for standing up for long dead issues.