I have rarely seen an ideological nut so pleasingly crushed by sense and reason and logic as I have here with this insanely disingenuous and dangerous drivel from the New Yorker.
The intellectual evisceration of this piece was as satisfying as it was correct.
It *is* an absolute disgrace. The guy is 6ft 4, with massive shoulders and an obviously immensely powerful body. We're all asked to disregard the evidence of our eyes.
"As Thomas underwent hormone-replacement therapy, and went through something like female puberty, she noticed some of her muscles softening. Fat was redistributed around her body, and she felt herself losing aerobic capacity." Where?? He still looks like a perfectly formed in tact human male = man , in that photo.
He chose to take a small hit on his performance, compared to himself. If a man chooses that for himself, then he's chosen to make himself less competitive with other men than he was. And what a load of bollocks that description is anyway, as you say.
Good piece Arty. Lia Thomas story leaves me speechless - that he had reportedly been in women’s changing rooms left me cold. Gender confusion, if that’s an honest interpretation of what’s happening with him, doesn’t mean us all joining in pretending he’s a woman. How did we get here.
Democracy is fragile in the west. Shocking that so many people give ground to authoritarianism and enthusiastically signal they are on “right side”. Hoping for a win in Maya Forststator tribunal- that will at least get some sense back here in the UK. Hope it will energise others to refuse to play along with this utter nonsense
Same. I was an ostentatiously proud New Yorker subscriber. (I still have the virtue signalling tote bag.) I cancelled my subscription and I won't look back. Bunch of woman-denying assholes.
A helluva lot worse than that. They've been peddling U.S. government propaganda for years, just a junk publication. Why would anyone be proud of reading it? They've been on the trans bandwagon for quite a long time, and their international coverage is abysmal.
Well done Arty. Unfortunately I had to stop reading it because this whole debate is really starting to mess with my head but I am going to save it for a future date.
People complaining about Lia’s name not appearing in quotes, it’s my fault not Artys. That is my usual preference, certainly when talking about outright cheats/misogynists like Lia. But the name is unusual enough that I didn’t think anything of it. I certainly would have been all over it had he done what so many of these blokes do and call himself ‘Gwendoline Preciouscakes’ or something
Agree! And I question Arty Morty, or anyone else who is not being compelled to do so, referring to Will Liar Thomas as a "transwoman. Why do we accept and promote the use of female language for men, either ourselves or in our thought leaders? I think we need to hold ourselves, each other, and our thought leaders to a higher standard and not support the promotion of gaslighting of ourselves, others, and children. Men aren't ANY kind of women. Why is Arty Morty or anyone else participating in the ideological capture of our language? There's no such thing as "trans" anything. It's a fake, make up concept to normalize the behavior of men who demand that we pretend that they are women and vice versa. Why in the world does Arty Morty or anyone else comply? Arty Morty is clearly an expert user of language. Using the language of transgenderism is lazy writing and completely contradicts his political stance.
Thanks Arty -where can one find honest journalists? I'm sure there are some, and some intelligent editors too but this article you've filleted so well for us demonstrates the deep corruption peddled by trans-ideology and how it can overthrow even the mightiest publication.
I don't know when The New Yorker was last "mighty," but certainly not since sometime in the 1980s/90s when that Tina person took over as editor and turned it into fluff and propaganda.
I would like to know if the author of the piece, Louisa Thomas, is even aware of the anonymised audio piece from the mother of one of the swimmers. (Perhaps a more relevant question would be, however, would she even care if she knew about it?) Her testimony included the shocking indifference from the ACLU lawyer and her absolutely chilling statement that they will "never represent cis women against women". Graham, could you post that piece again, as not only is it a rebuttal to the New Yorker article, it gives a first-hand description of the impact that this has on an otherwise silenced group of women and their families.
Thank you for reading this for me so that I didn't have to. I'm not subscribed but I get regular emails from them. The newsletter this week highlighted this article and my heart sank. Do I read it (as one of their one-off freebies) and feel the gloom descend yet again as I read another article peddling claptrap and deceit from a supposedly reputable news source? Or be surprised, shocked even, that here was an article that also looked at this from the point of view of the women and girls at the sharp end - in this case in the category of women's sports - of the impact of gender ideology? The newsletter headlined the article with 'The Trans Swimmer Who Won Too Much' which, to me, was ambiguous. Your piece, Morty, makes clear that it was claptrap and deceit which holds sway at The New Yorker. Not in a hurry to convert my email subscription to a $ subscription.
I saw that! I, too, got the email with the heading, "The Trans Swimmer Who Won Too Much" and I immediately turned into the Incredible Hulk and smashed several buildings. Many innocents died. And then I channeled my Hulk Rage into this piece, with the kindly help of Glinner.
Of the many false claims made by The New Yorker, this one sticks in my craw:
"There is a gap between the range of testosterone levels in men and the range in women—one researcher described it to me as a “chasm”—but there is enough variability among élite athletes to create some small degree of possible overlap between sexes"
There only APPEARS to be an overlap between the two sexes in elite sport when XY DSD athletes with testes and male levels of testosterone like Caster Semenya and Dutee Chand - and doped women - are included and counted as part of the category labelled "elite women" or "elite female." Separate them out, and there is no overlap - the levels don't even come close. Even women with PCOS do not have testosterone even approaching the bottom of the male range.
World Athletics, formerly the IAAF, did a big study in the early teens that was published in 2014. It found that the 839 most elite female competitors in women's international track & field had lower T levels than the researchers originally expected. WA/IAAF says that the range of T for elite male athletes is 7.7-29.4 nmol/L; the range for female elite athletes is 0.02-1.68 nmol/L.
Of the 839 female athletes the WA/IAAF studied, the median T level was 0.61 nmol/L. 75% of the female athletes had T under 0.91 nmol/L. Only 7 of 839 athletes tested had T of 3.0 nmol/L or above; and the researchers said they suspected those athletes either were doping or had undisclosed XY DSDs because they came from countries with a lot of proven doping violations indicative of large-scale doping conducted by coaches and also history of entering XY DSD athletes into women's elite competition.
The proven lack of overlap between male and female T levels is a main reason the IAAF/WA prevailed in court in the Caster Semenya case.
As if it's about hormones - lol. How about physiological make-up? I notice they like to avoid that like the plague. How about sexual dimorphism? Have none of these geniuses studied basic biology?
I have rarely seen an ideological nut so pleasingly crushed by sense and reason and logic as I have here with this insanely disingenuous and dangerous drivel from the New Yorker.
The intellectual evisceration of this piece was as satisfying as it was correct.
Thank you.
Good summary, Arty. It is a disgrace that people are being gaslit like this.
It *is* an absolute disgrace. The guy is 6ft 4, with massive shoulders and an obviously immensely powerful body. We're all asked to disregard the evidence of our eyes.
I think 6ft 5 actually!
I read it was 6ft 4, but 6ft 5 is even worse.
The Empress is built like a brick shit house bloke.
"He's a Brick! House!"
Gaslighting 101. Don't believe your lying eyes.
Hmm. perhaps they might have asked him how much time he's spent tugging himself stupid watching "sissy" porn?
🤣🙌🏻👏🏻
"As Thomas underwent hormone-replacement therapy, and went through something like female puberty, she noticed some of her muscles softening. Fat was redistributed around her body, and she felt herself losing aerobic capacity." Where?? He still looks like a perfectly formed in tact human male = man , in that photo.
He chose to take a small hit on his performance, compared to himself. If a man chooses that for himself, then he's chosen to make himself less competitive with other men than he was. And what a load of bollocks that description is anyway, as you say.
I actually don't even know why we bother. He's a cheat.
Maybe he shrunk to 4ft 11 ( my height !! ) Amazing stuff , ,oestrogen !! 🤪🙄🙈
Good piece Arty. Lia Thomas story leaves me speechless - that he had reportedly been in women’s changing rooms left me cold. Gender confusion, if that’s an honest interpretation of what’s happening with him, doesn’t mean us all joining in pretending he’s a woman. How did we get here.
Democracy is fragile in the west. Shocking that so many people give ground to authoritarianism and enthusiastically signal they are on “right side”. Hoping for a win in Maya Forststator tribunal- that will at least get some sense back here in the UK. Hope it will energise others to refuse to play along with this utter nonsense
Thanks Arty. The guy is a disgrace and so is every idiot playing along with him
Just written to the editor, enclosing the link to this blog. Everyone else can do so here too, via the New Yorker's Contact Details: https://www.newyorker.com/about/contact?verso=true
Excellent. Thank you.
So here we are: posting links to Fox News because that is the only place where Kellie Jay Keen and other women can be interviewed, stating facts: www.foxnews.com/sports/lia-thomas-protesters-ncaa-women-swimming-victory-atlanta.
It's just a short piece
Thank you for posting.
I'm so glad I ditched my NYer subscription (after 20+ years!) in 2020. If I encountered and paid for that drivel, I'd be beyond furious.
Same. I was an ostentatiously proud New Yorker subscriber. (I still have the virtue signalling tote bag.) I cancelled my subscription and I won't look back. Bunch of woman-denying assholes.
A helluva lot worse than that. They've been peddling U.S. government propaganda for years, just a junk publication. Why would anyone be proud of reading it? They've been on the trans bandwagon for quite a long time, and their international coverage is abysmal.
Well done Arty. Unfortunately I had to stop reading it because this whole debate is really starting to mess with my head but I am going to save it for a future date.
People complaining about Lia’s name not appearing in quotes, it’s my fault not Artys. That is my usual preference, certainly when talking about outright cheats/misogynists like Lia. But the name is unusual enough that I didn’t think anything of it. I certainly would have been all over it had he done what so many of these blokes do and call himself ‘Gwendoline Preciouscakes’ or something
Agree! And I question Arty Morty, or anyone else who is not being compelled to do so, referring to Will Liar Thomas as a "transwoman. Why do we accept and promote the use of female language for men, either ourselves or in our thought leaders? I think we need to hold ourselves, each other, and our thought leaders to a higher standard and not support the promotion of gaslighting of ourselves, others, and children. Men aren't ANY kind of women. Why is Arty Morty or anyone else participating in the ideological capture of our language? There's no such thing as "trans" anything. It's a fake, make up concept to normalize the behavior of men who demand that we pretend that they are women and vice versa. Why in the world does Arty Morty or anyone else comply? Arty Morty is clearly an expert user of language. Using the language of transgenderism is lazy writing and completely contradicts his political stance.
Thanks Arty -where can one find honest journalists? I'm sure there are some, and some intelligent editors too but this article you've filleted so well for us demonstrates the deep corruption peddled by trans-ideology and how it can overthrow even the mightiest publication.
I don't know when The New Yorker was last "mighty," but certainly not since sometime in the 1980s/90s when that Tina person took over as editor and turned it into fluff and propaganda.
I would like to know if the author of the piece, Louisa Thomas, is even aware of the anonymised audio piece from the mother of one of the swimmers. (Perhaps a more relevant question would be, however, would she even care if she knew about it?) Her testimony included the shocking indifference from the ACLU lawyer and her absolutely chilling statement that they will "never represent cis women against women". Graham, could you post that piece again, as not only is it a rebuttal to the New Yorker article, it gives a first-hand description of the impact that this has on an otherwise silenced group of women and their families.
The TIMS are real women and we're cis women - absolute Clown World.
Thank you for reading this for me so that I didn't have to. I'm not subscribed but I get regular emails from them. The newsletter this week highlighted this article and my heart sank. Do I read it (as one of their one-off freebies) and feel the gloom descend yet again as I read another article peddling claptrap and deceit from a supposedly reputable news source? Or be surprised, shocked even, that here was an article that also looked at this from the point of view of the women and girls at the sharp end - in this case in the category of women's sports - of the impact of gender ideology? The newsletter headlined the article with 'The Trans Swimmer Who Won Too Much' which, to me, was ambiguous. Your piece, Morty, makes clear that it was claptrap and deceit which holds sway at The New Yorker. Not in a hurry to convert my email subscription to a $ subscription.
I saw that! I, too, got the email with the heading, "The Trans Swimmer Who Won Too Much" and I immediately turned into the Incredible Hulk and smashed several buildings. Many innocents died. And then I channeled my Hulk Rage into this piece, with the kindly help of Glinner.
I was afraid my rage would turn to the bottle at 8 am or a bar of Cadbury's fruit and nut, at minimum.
Of the many false claims made by The New Yorker, this one sticks in my craw:
"There is a gap between the range of testosterone levels in men and the range in women—one researcher described it to me as a “chasm”—but there is enough variability among élite athletes to create some small degree of possible overlap between sexes"
There only APPEARS to be an overlap between the two sexes in elite sport when XY DSD athletes with testes and male levels of testosterone like Caster Semenya and Dutee Chand - and doped women - are included and counted as part of the category labelled "elite women" or "elite female." Separate them out, and there is no overlap - the levels don't even come close. Even women with PCOS do not have testosterone even approaching the bottom of the male range.
World Athletics, formerly the IAAF, did a big study in the early teens that was published in 2014. It found that the 839 most elite female competitors in women's international track & field had lower T levels than the researchers originally expected. WA/IAAF says that the range of T for elite male athletes is 7.7-29.4 nmol/L; the range for female elite athletes is 0.02-1.68 nmol/L.
Of the 839 female athletes the WA/IAAF studied, the median T level was 0.61 nmol/L. 75% of the female athletes had T under 0.91 nmol/L. Only 7 of 839 athletes tested had T of 3.0 nmol/L or above; and the researchers said they suspected those athletes either were doping or had undisclosed XY DSDs because they came from countries with a lot of proven doping violations indicative of large-scale doping conducted by coaches and also history of entering XY DSD athletes into women's elite competition.
The proven lack of overlap between male and female T levels is a main reason the IAAF/WA prevailed in court in the Caster Semenya case.
https://academic.oup.com/jcem/article/99/11/4328/2836760?login=false
As if it's about hormones - lol. How about physiological make-up? I notice they like to avoid that like the plague. How about sexual dimorphism? Have none of these geniuses studied basic biology?
In a word, NO.