Bennet Kelley, the eyewitness who spoke up to say he saw it happen and it's no hoax, is a decidedly left-wing political columnist. If there's anyone that sources like the Guardian and Slate are going to have a hard time smearing as a right-wing hoaxer, it's a writer whose career has been built on criticizing the Republican Right. Which is probably why they're all just completely ignoring him and his statements.
You've got to love that there have been replies saying to him that his video doesn't actually prove that it happened, it just shows the complaint being made. As if all the women conspired together to make it up. Classic
I’ve seen people saying this is what they expected to see as proof. That if the complaint was filmed then the same person would have surely filmed the flasher. I don’t understand that logic at all. Im sure if she did film the flasher the TRAs would have then taken umbrage with that as well. Can’t win.
yes, this is an issue. I've been saying all along this movement is highly organized and there is some upper level 'think tank' type entity who is dispersing talking points to all of them lightning speed otherwise they'd be all over the place but notice how they are all always on exactly the same page?
At some point someone at the Ministry of Transgender Propaganda decided the optics were bad on this. Though this is their express purpose for existence, granting admission to predators and pedophiles to all places where their prey reside, they decided they needed to shift the narrative cause they KNOW from recent surveys that if right wingers REALLY understand, as they are beginning to, the true threat of rape and sexual assault that these men present to their wives and daughters they will come out and raise Cain about it.
So they decided to disperse the 'hoax', 'never happened' b.s. to all their shills, minions and talking heads. Was surprised to see Pat Arquette on the payroll but there was Alexis so there you go. She knows better. They KNOW better, like you say. But they are realizing how much public sentiment is not in their favor. I feel sorry for Cubana Angel they have been horrible to her on IG, and attacked me for some of my posts as well (i'm used to it so care not but it must be jarring to her to say the least). I think their doubling back and changing their story is a good thing.
If I had to guess the reason it's cause they know if this keeps happening they will have less than the snowball's chance they already do of keeping the senate next year. Lots' of little things are going wrong in the US right now (aside from rapists in women's quarters everywhere there is the price of gas and other goods like lumber, supply chain issues, etc) and being that conservatives are much more likely to vote in midterms than democrats they know they are already at a disadvantage.
Plus they are coming off of a loss in the passage of the Equality Act. It's a lost cause and they know it. They don't have the numbers and Manchin won't budge, on that or the filibuster. This issue of what happened at Wi Spa is going to send conservatives to the polls in droves if it keeps happening.
This last plot twist is an amazing show of narcissism on their parts...more blatant than ever before. They got exactly what they wanted, and they believe that they can somehow get this and convince the public the success of their ideology isn't really happening. I hope it turns out they have greatly overplayed their hand. We just have to hang on til next year when dems lose the Senate and the Biden admin is dead in the water legislatively. They ONLY thing Biden should have focused on was getting Americans the Universal Health Care that all other western democracies have had for years. Instead he pissed our well-being away for the rights of sexual predators to offend in every formerly exclusively female space.
The evidence is piling up and the usual suspects are silent. The Scottish government has been especially silent, although there is no indication that they have changed tack. I really don't know what it's going to take to make these people see what is happening.
It's terrible to say it, but they seem to be happy - yes, happy, ecstatic almost - to see women and children being physically and mentally harmed for the sake of paraphiliacs and fetishists whose surfeit of porn and the subversion of reality that predominates, has turned their brains to mush.
The propensity of some human beings to turn a blind eye to horrendous abuses in order to service their sex drive, and the equally repugnant propensity of some women to be willing and goggle-eyed handmaids to these men, has resulted in their being used a foot soldiers for global capitalist predatory behaviours we have not been privy to before but is not prevalent because of the advent of the dark side of the internet.
Even if the claim were ever shown to be false, it would be totally irrelevant.
The news here is not that a man would expose their penis to women and children. That has been the case for all of human existence.
What is new. what has alarmed people, is the response of the staff at the spa who, correctly, state that if a man does expose himself to a woman or child in the female changing room, then that is now deemed to be his prerogative. It is no longer the sort of behaviour that women or children should expect to be challenged on their behalf, either legally or socially.
And if the argument at the end of it is "it's just a penis, get over it", then why are there ANY sex-segregated toilets, change rooms, or prisons at all? Why can't the person with a penis join the other penis-havers if their genitals are also "just penises"? Does seeing other penises traumatize them? Hellooo!!! Why do they think women don't want them in their spaces? Anything about gender ideology just makes some people's brains shut down. *must repeat mantras* *do not deviate from the pre-approved script*
Defending trans people in all instances takes precedence over any thought in their brain.
The basis of it being a false complaint was that none of the Spa's usual transgender clients was booked in at the time.
I don't think those making the claim have considered that this makes the response from the spa even worse. It would mean the women were complaining about a man unknown to the Spa, rather than about a trans individual that the Spa could claim to be a regular they could claim to vouch for. And yet they STILL refused to act.
If pornsickness were represented on a graph as a spectrum this TRA movement is home to the absolute pornsickest of the pornsick. They are AGP fetishists. Only depraved males expose their male genitalia to children, and grown ups know this. It's interesting watching the TRA try to assert their right to do just that whilst telling the public it's a 'hoax' that never happened.
I think this has to be their single-handedly most ambitious attempt at gaslighting the public yet.
Except of course for the factoid that 90% of them have penises. For all their insistence on the fact that they are women, they will not give up those peckers. To me that is part and parcel of wanting to be a female. It doesn't mean you are not also a dangerous, depraved predator such as Yaniv, but it does invalidate their assertion they wish to be female. 90 percent of them have penises. Gaslighting extroardinaire.
Indeed, John. There is a law, if not several, against what is euphemistically called 'flashing', which is a paraphilia, yet, women are expected to both understand those laws and, at the same time, understand that they do not apply in women's spaces to men with paraphilias.
Peeping tommery, unwanted touching, photographing under doors and skirts, drilling holes in walls for cameras, etc. are all paraphilias/fetishes, and, while on the lower end of the sexual offences spectrum, women meet them every day and it will get worse if these people get access to women's spaces and rights.
They can often be indicators of worse to come, as we discovered from the policeman's behaviour before he abducted, raped and murdered that young woman. What's the bet that they will try to get rid of these laws as a preliminary to allowing full access? Some of these politicians are so lacking in grey matter that it is a wonder they manage to breathe independently.
I wish it was just men, Susan. The grovelling handmaids make you want to puke. I am sick of the excuses made for this behaviour: they're young, they'll learn; and so on. Yes, they will, but they can still do so much damage before that time. If politicians go along with anti science and anti biology, with deliberately eliminating women's spaces and rights, they quite simply are not fit intellectually to be in office - whether they are male or female. As for the embalmed ones, yep, we have a fair number of those, too. I think they might have been embalmed by an ancient Egyptian priest. Didn't they scoop out the brain through the nose?
You're right, we have some embalmed women serving as politicians as well though it is mostly men. But trans supporters seem to be of all ages, anyone who's privileged and stupid enough to buy into being woke.
Biggest load of unbalanced incomprehensible tripe I’ve read since Boris Johnson’s speech the other day. Lost the plot or hysterical take your pick. Journalists are meant to deal in reality and facts and a working knowledge of the dictionary helps as well.
I can’t fathom the entrenched misogyny in journalism. Groups of men dominating all public discourse and institutions is just taken as normal I guess. For the other 52 percent of most populations it hasn’t worked out very well has it? Just all seems very odd to me really. Shows just how conditioned we all are to normalise the invented and abnormal.
I think about that all the time…for a species that thrives on innovation and change, most people have very little imagination when it comes to how life could or should be.
Women are actively hated for being intelligent in a way that bothers men. It baffles me too how we continue this way, but we do.
I think the inviting premise of "civilization" is one no longer has to think. How else to explain people who are so stupid they fall off cliffs while taking selfies? Practically everyone has a handy suitcase of lines they spout which they've heard others repeat endlessly. And you can watch it in real time with transgenderism. They're being murdered in droves (not true), they're the object of hate speech and violence (not true), etc, etc, etc.
You forgot 'LITERALLY murdered...', Susan - by misgendering them. They steal everything from us, then fall into a swoon because we don't call them 'she' or 'her'. They can f**k right off.
I found myself wondering if it was actually written by CursedE (is that the right one? The vile mouthed, misogynistic male writer who works for the Guardian) I might have the wrong name.
All these people - journalists, politicians, academics, etc. who have tried to enable this nonsense, once it all crashes to Earth like a latter-day Icarus, should be reminded for a long time of their own gullibility and stupidity. It really bothers me that so many people are so easily gulled, but, I suppose it shouldn't or Hitler and Stalin, and Pol Pot, and Mao would never have been allowed to do what they did. What is more alarming is that they should be in positions of authority.
People in the U.S. don't remember what happened last week, so when this idiocy does crash no one will remember how many prominent people mouthed its slogans.
😂 yes... never forget who and what they’ve done. They deserve exposing for undermining all our humanity and all our right to be supported to live our lives peacefully and safely ... in so many ways. Patriarchy is a nasty oppressive literal business.
I think it might have been on here that Graham or someone said that Jameela Jamil deleted all her old tweets. I think this is going to be how it happens. Slowly these big mouths are going to start shutting up, one by one, and dissociate themselves from this issue completely. And develop serious amnesia about their role in it. This will really ramp up with the burgeoning detransitioner movement. When those kids finally find their voices and start filing their class actions it is going to hugely shift the narrative. Along with the progression of meth addiction for so many TRA's and the progression of their sex predator illness which will have more and more of them brought up on charges. The next five years is going to be VERY interesting, watching the sacred cows in this movement fall. And all these quasi celebrity blue ticks are going to be deleting tweets like mad and pretending they never said what they said or did what they did.
And of course they will try to gaslight us and the whole world into believing the canceling and the deplatforming never happened, and that they didn't play a role in it. I think there will, sadly, be a chorus of maimed children to remind them otherwise.
The bloggers generally archive everything, so it might be a good idea to do that with these insane tweets from the biology deniers and the utterly braindead.
Just about everything I've seen coming out of the left regarding this issue is much the same. We literally have two propaganda arms operating now...I think big pharma money is far more behind this than people have any idea of...Biden took like 8 million from them but they give tons of money to all the elected officials. When you look at what went on in Haiti with the president assassinated after, whoops, he turned down the vaccines, and Cuba, who made their own vaccine, is suddenly spurred into protests again, it seems mighty suspicious at least to me. What's going on is far darker than most people imagine.
And if anything proves that women have no big money behind them, this is it. We don't own corporations and tech companies or global pharma. Some women get to appear in porn movies and work in brothels or pole dancing clubs, but that's 'empowering' according to the Vichy sisters.
Trans allies have such a hard time explaining away abusive males in female spaces. If they admit the male is trans it gives the lie to the ‘trans would never abuse’ claim. If they say, ‘but they can’t have been trans’ it exposes the dangers of self-id.
I've now stopped my Guardian subscription. They had no details on Marion Miller's 'offence' either, just that she was a radical feminist being taken to court. It was hard letting go of a paper I'd bought since 1980 but enough is enough.
See also Helen Joyce being labelled 'anti-semitic.' It's sickening how far they will go to stifle debate and smear pro-women voices. HJ came out all guns blazing so lets hope some of them get their arses sued from here to eternity.
It does not matter how they frame it because people who oppose this are in the vast majority. we are not a fringe minority like trans people are, or more accurately pornsick sex predators are. The person reading at home is going to instantly identify with the person on the street protesting a man flashing his penis at young children. TRA will not win this one and they know it which is why they are floating the 'hoax' b.s.
It really shows that they are out of their depth in that they've only groomed weak minded enablers like libfems and literal children online to support their predator/pedophile movement.
This is maddening. The spinelessness of the guardian is, somehow, even after so many cowardly decisions, still disheartening. I didn't want to be one of those fruitloops who doesn't trust the MSM, but Kath Viner's turned me into one.
Thanks, Tony. As Caitlin Johnstone pointed out, if the MSM hadn't lied so much to the public perhaps more people would have willing to accept the information they broadcast regarding covid.
narcissists attract screamingly codependent people. Sexual predators attract previously violated Stockholm syndrome victims like the sort Ghislaine Maxwell represents. Then there is the woke/liberal contingent that is easily conned because they won't think deeply about anything, can't handle nuance or understand how lobbying is involved for industries to paint a narrative (big pharma for the TRA movement, oil cartels for islamofascism, etc) and is so easily manipulated to carry water for the devil if those lobbies can figure out how to assure them they are the 'good people' standing up against 'bigotry'...LOLOL.
Anyone can write a book about anything from their own perspective. I imagine Helen Joyce is writing it from a woman's perspective and how the movement impacts women's rights. Helen isn't claiming to be transgender.
I guess all those biologists better stop writing about animals. Like geez, let's have some badgers and fish tell us what it feels like to be them in their own words. 🥰🥰
YES!!!!! I'm far more interested in what badgers and fish have to say than what people have to say about them. They certainly aren't dumb enough to buy into transgenderism.
It’s so chilling. It makes me feel like I’ve gone insane…during the Satanic Panic or the age of the lobotomy, did the media misreport all controversy surrounding these issues the same way, with the same degree of bias? Or is this a new low, more akin to the propaganda of state-sponsored journalism in authoritarian (often communist autocratic) countries?
it is the propaganda of big pharma, at least according to the research of Jennifer Bilek. Someone elsewhere pointed out this generation has had no wars or any real strife whatever to worry about. I'm at the point of thinking we need to instill mandatory minimum military service like Israel for everyone just out of high school to redirect this generation's energy from street fascism like antifa/proud boys and give them some struggle. They literally do nothing but live online. My nephews come here and don't budge for six to eight hours. We really should not be surprised that they are up to no good. They are living in their heads completely and their bodies never get tired. All of the younger generation I know have procrastinated learning to drive, which is the weirdest thing ever. When I was in school not only were we playing outside every minute we could, vigorously, but we got our learners permit like the day we turned 15. But kids live online now so of course it's no big deal to them anymore.
Bennet Kelley, the eyewitness who spoke up to say he saw it happen and it's no hoax, is a decidedly left-wing political columnist. If there's anyone that sources like the Guardian and Slate are going to have a hard time smearing as a right-wing hoaxer, it's a writer whose career has been built on criticizing the Republican Right. Which is probably why they're all just completely ignoring him and his statements.
You've got to love that there have been replies saying to him that his video doesn't actually prove that it happened, it just shows the complaint being made. As if all the women conspired together to make it up. Classic
Are they saying they WANT people to film in the changing area? For Christ's sake, of course there's no footage from inside where PEOPLE ARE NAKED.
It's ridiculous isn't it
Totally. I've been saying all along, if she or any of the women had filmed this event they'd be laying themselves open to prosecution.
I’ve seen people saying this is what they expected to see as proof. That if the complaint was filmed then the same person would have surely filmed the flasher. I don’t understand that logic at all. Im sure if she did film the flasher the TRAs would have then taken umbrage with that as well. Can’t win.
Yep.
TRAs: Where's your proof?
Woman: I can't record people undressed without their consent!
TRAs: Well I guess it never happened then!!
Or
TRAs: Where's your proof?
Woman: Right here. See, that's a man with a penis in the women's area!
TRAs: OMG you are disgusting! Have you decency?! No respect for privacy?! Dignity?! You're such a perv!
You can't win.
I guess we've learned very little from the me too movement when it comes to believing women.
What infuriates is they KNOW it's no hoax.
yes, this is an issue. I've been saying all along this movement is highly organized and there is some upper level 'think tank' type entity who is dispersing talking points to all of them lightning speed otherwise they'd be all over the place but notice how they are all always on exactly the same page?
At some point someone at the Ministry of Transgender Propaganda decided the optics were bad on this. Though this is their express purpose for existence, granting admission to predators and pedophiles to all places where their prey reside, they decided they needed to shift the narrative cause they KNOW from recent surveys that if right wingers REALLY understand, as they are beginning to, the true threat of rape and sexual assault that these men present to their wives and daughters they will come out and raise Cain about it.
So they decided to disperse the 'hoax', 'never happened' b.s. to all their shills, minions and talking heads. Was surprised to see Pat Arquette on the payroll but there was Alexis so there you go. She knows better. They KNOW better, like you say. But they are realizing how much public sentiment is not in their favor. I feel sorry for Cubana Angel they have been horrible to her on IG, and attacked me for some of my posts as well (i'm used to it so care not but it must be jarring to her to say the least). I think their doubling back and changing their story is a good thing.
If I had to guess the reason it's cause they know if this keeps happening they will have less than the snowball's chance they already do of keeping the senate next year. Lots' of little things are going wrong in the US right now (aside from rapists in women's quarters everywhere there is the price of gas and other goods like lumber, supply chain issues, etc) and being that conservatives are much more likely to vote in midterms than democrats they know they are already at a disadvantage.
Plus they are coming off of a loss in the passage of the Equality Act. It's a lost cause and they know it. They don't have the numbers and Manchin won't budge, on that or the filibuster. This issue of what happened at Wi Spa is going to send conservatives to the polls in droves if it keeps happening.
This last plot twist is an amazing show of narcissism on their parts...more blatant than ever before. They got exactly what they wanted, and they believe that they can somehow get this and convince the public the success of their ideology isn't really happening. I hope it turns out they have greatly overplayed their hand. We just have to hang on til next year when dems lose the Senate and the Biden admin is dead in the water legislatively. They ONLY thing Biden should have focused on was getting Americans the Universal Health Care that all other western democracies have had for years. Instead he pissed our well-being away for the rights of sexual predators to offend in every formerly exclusively female space.
Wow. Next time I need the lowdown on American politics/culture you're who I'm gonna ask 😁 Because that sounds bang on the fucking money to me 👍
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The evidence is piling up and the usual suspects are silent. The Scottish government has been especially silent, although there is no indication that they have changed tack. I really don't know what it's going to take to make these people see what is happening.
It's terrible to say it, but they seem to be happy - yes, happy, ecstatic almost - to see women and children being physically and mentally harmed for the sake of paraphiliacs and fetishists whose surfeit of porn and the subversion of reality that predominates, has turned their brains to mush.
The propensity of some human beings to turn a blind eye to horrendous abuses in order to service their sex drive, and the equally repugnant propensity of some women to be willing and goggle-eyed handmaids to these men, has resulted in their being used a foot soldiers for global capitalist predatory behaviours we have not been privy to before but is not prevalent because of the advent of the dark side of the internet.
"... now prevalent... "
that's beautifully written
Even if the claim were ever shown to be false, it would be totally irrelevant.
The news here is not that a man would expose their penis to women and children. That has been the case for all of human existence.
What is new. what has alarmed people, is the response of the staff at the spa who, correctly, state that if a man does expose himself to a woman or child in the female changing room, then that is now deemed to be his prerogative. It is no longer the sort of behaviour that women or children should expect to be challenged on their behalf, either legally or socially.
And if the argument at the end of it is "it's just a penis, get over it", then why are there ANY sex-segregated toilets, change rooms, or prisons at all? Why can't the person with a penis join the other penis-havers if their genitals are also "just penises"? Does seeing other penises traumatize them? Hellooo!!! Why do they think women don't want them in their spaces? Anything about gender ideology just makes some people's brains shut down. *must repeat mantras* *do not deviate from the pre-approved script*
Defending trans people in all instances takes precedence over any thought in their brain.
The basis of it being a false complaint was that none of the Spa's usual transgender clients was booked in at the time.
I don't think those making the claim have considered that this makes the response from the spa even worse. It would mean the women were complaining about a man unknown to the Spa, rather than about a trans individual that the Spa could claim to be a regular they could claim to vouch for. And yet they STILL refused to act.
If pornsickness were represented on a graph as a spectrum this TRA movement is home to the absolute pornsickest of the pornsick. They are AGP fetishists. Only depraved males expose their male genitalia to children, and grown ups know this. It's interesting watching the TRA try to assert their right to do just that whilst telling the public it's a 'hoax' that never happened.
I think this has to be their single-handedly most ambitious attempt at gaslighting the public yet.
Except of course for the factoid that 90% of them have penises. For all their insistence on the fact that they are women, they will not give up those peckers. To me that is part and parcel of wanting to be a female. It doesn't mean you are not also a dangerous, depraved predator such as Yaniv, but it does invalidate their assertion they wish to be female. 90 percent of them have penises. Gaslighting extroardinaire.
Indeed, John. There is a law, if not several, against what is euphemistically called 'flashing', which is a paraphilia, yet, women are expected to both understand those laws and, at the same time, understand that they do not apply in women's spaces to men with paraphilias.
Peeping tommery, unwanted touching, photographing under doors and skirts, drilling holes in walls for cameras, etc. are all paraphilias/fetishes, and, while on the lower end of the sexual offences spectrum, women meet them every day and it will get worse if these people get access to women's spaces and rights.
They can often be indicators of worse to come, as we discovered from the policeman's behaviour before he abducted, raped and murdered that young woman. What's the bet that they will try to get rid of these laws as a preliminary to allowing full access? Some of these politicians are so lacking in grey matter that it is a wonder they manage to breathe independently.
I don't know what it's like where you live, but we have a number of seemingly embalmed men serving as politicians.
I wish it was just men, Susan. The grovelling handmaids make you want to puke. I am sick of the excuses made for this behaviour: they're young, they'll learn; and so on. Yes, they will, but they can still do so much damage before that time. If politicians go along with anti science and anti biology, with deliberately eliminating women's spaces and rights, they quite simply are not fit intellectually to be in office - whether they are male or female. As for the embalmed ones, yep, we have a fair number of those, too. I think they might have been embalmed by an ancient Egyptian priest. Didn't they scoop out the brain through the nose?
You're right, we have some embalmed women serving as politicians as well though it is mostly men. But trans supporters seem to be of all ages, anyone who's privileged and stupid enough to buy into being woke.
Patricia Arquette also posted the Boulder Colorado assailant was a "white supremacist" before it emerged it was a Trump-hating Islamist 🤪
She's got form in peddling divisive misinformation. Anything to stay "in" with Hollywood luvvies in a desperately sad attempt to remain relevant.
That article is an embarrassment to journalism.
Biggest load of unbalanced incomprehensible tripe I’ve read since Boris Johnson’s speech the other day. Lost the plot or hysterical take your pick. Journalists are meant to deal in reality and facts and a working knowledge of the dictionary helps as well.
Most "journalists" appear to have been willingly bought. I have no doubt that some of them are taking money or inducements to spout trans propaganda.
I can’t fathom the entrenched misogyny in journalism. Groups of men dominating all public discourse and institutions is just taken as normal I guess. For the other 52 percent of most populations it hasn’t worked out very well has it? Just all seems very odd to me really. Shows just how conditioned we all are to normalise the invented and abnormal.
I think about that all the time…for a species that thrives on innovation and change, most people have very little imagination when it comes to how life could or should be.
Women are actively hated for being intelligent in a way that bothers men. It baffles me too how we continue this way, but we do.
I think the inviting premise of "civilization" is one no longer has to think. How else to explain people who are so stupid they fall off cliffs while taking selfies? Practically everyone has a handy suitcase of lines they spout which they've heard others repeat endlessly. And you can watch it in real time with transgenderism. They're being murdered in droves (not true), they're the object of hate speech and violence (not true), etc, etc, etc.
You forgot 'LITERALLY murdered...', Susan - by misgendering them. They steal everything from us, then fall into a swoon because we don't call them 'she' or 'her'. They can f**k right off.
I found myself wondering if it was actually written by CursedE (is that the right one? The vile mouthed, misogynistic male writer who works for the Guardian) I might have the wrong name.
All these people - journalists, politicians, academics, etc. who have tried to enable this nonsense, once it all crashes to Earth like a latter-day Icarus, should be reminded for a long time of their own gullibility and stupidity. It really bothers me that so many people are so easily gulled, but, I suppose it shouldn't or Hitler and Stalin, and Pol Pot, and Mao would never have been allowed to do what they did. What is more alarming is that they should be in positions of authority.
People in the U.S. don't remember what happened last week, so when this idiocy does crash no one will remember how many prominent people mouthed its slogans.
😂 yes... never forget who and what they’ve done. They deserve exposing for undermining all our humanity and all our right to be supported to live our lives peacefully and safely ... in so many ways. Patriarchy is a nasty oppressive literal business.
I think it might have been on here that Graham or someone said that Jameela Jamil deleted all her old tweets. I think this is going to be how it happens. Slowly these big mouths are going to start shutting up, one by one, and dissociate themselves from this issue completely. And develop serious amnesia about their role in it. This will really ramp up with the burgeoning detransitioner movement. When those kids finally find their voices and start filing their class actions it is going to hugely shift the narrative. Along with the progression of meth addiction for so many TRA's and the progression of their sex predator illness which will have more and more of them brought up on charges. The next five years is going to be VERY interesting, watching the sacred cows in this movement fall. And all these quasi celebrity blue ticks are going to be deleting tweets like mad and pretending they never said what they said or did what they did.
And of course they will try to gaslight us and the whole world into believing the canceling and the deplatforming never happened, and that they didn't play a role in it. I think there will, sadly, be a chorus of maimed children to remind them otherwise.
The bloggers generally archive everything, so it might be a good idea to do that with these insane tweets from the biology deniers and the utterly braindead.
Just about everything I've seen coming out of the left regarding this issue is much the same. We literally have two propaganda arms operating now...I think big pharma money is far more behind this than people have any idea of...Biden took like 8 million from them but they give tons of money to all the elected officials. When you look at what went on in Haiti with the president assassinated after, whoops, he turned down the vaccines, and Cuba, who made their own vaccine, is suddenly spurred into protests again, it seems mighty suspicious at least to me. What's going on is far darker than most people imagine.
And if anything proves that women have no big money behind them, this is it. We don't own corporations and tech companies or global pharma. Some women get to appear in porn movies and work in brothels or pole dancing clubs, but that's 'empowering' according to the Vichy sisters.
Arggggg. Just.... argggg. The blatant propaganda is infuriating.
Trans allies have such a hard time explaining away abusive males in female spaces. If they admit the male is trans it gives the lie to the ‘trans would never abuse’ claim. If they say, ‘but they can’t have been trans’ it exposes the dangers of self-id.
Far simpler to claim it’s a hoax.
I've now stopped my Guardian subscription. They had no details on Marion Miller's 'offence' either, just that she was a radical feminist being taken to court. It was hard letting go of a paper I'd bought since 1980 but enough is enough.
I would cancel mine, but I'm only paying like $1/month or something due to a software glitch, so I'll keep it for now... :-)
Aligning GC feminists with Bible Belt fundamentalists to discredit their legitimacy seems to be a recurring theme 🤔
See also Helen Joyce being labelled 'anti-semitic.' It's sickening how far they will go to stifle debate and smear pro-women voices. HJ came out all guns blazing so lets hope some of them get their arses sued from here to eternity.
It does not matter how they frame it because people who oppose this are in the vast majority. we are not a fringe minority like trans people are, or more accurately pornsick sex predators are. The person reading at home is going to instantly identify with the person on the street protesting a man flashing his penis at young children. TRA will not win this one and they know it which is why they are floating the 'hoax' b.s.
It really shows that they are out of their depth in that they've only groomed weak minded enablers like libfems and literal children online to support their predator/pedophile movement.
This is maddening. The spinelessness of the guardian is, somehow, even after so many cowardly decisions, still disheartening. I didn't want to be one of those fruitloops who doesn't trust the MSM, but Kath Viner's turned me into one.
Welcome to the club and no, we're not all cranks 😉
Thanks, Tony. As Caitlin Johnstone pointed out, if the MSM hadn't lied so much to the public perhaps more people would have willing to accept the information they broadcast regarding covid.
In the words of Fun Boy Three, at the Grauniad the Lunatics Have Taken Over The Asylum
Imagine to have to go with the line of argument that the incident didn't happen... but, if it didn't happen, there's no problem anyway.
Jesus Christ, the muppets in those twitter threads. I'm sure learning alot about how to gaslight.
How do they live with themselves? are they also cluster b's?
narcissists attract screamingly codependent people. Sexual predators attract previously violated Stockholm syndrome victims like the sort Ghislaine Maxwell represents. Then there is the woke/liberal contingent that is easily conned because they won't think deeply about anything, can't handle nuance or understand how lobbying is involved for industries to paint a narrative (big pharma for the TRA movement, oil cartels for islamofascism, etc) and is so easily manipulated to carry water for the devil if those lobbies can figure out how to assure them they are the 'good people' standing up against 'bigotry'...LOLOL.
Seems like these journos are in the job for themselves..like all good narcs..
Regarding the Helen Joyce book criticism by David Paisley
This if the equivalent of saying
By this view is gay person started to live in a heterosexual relationship like Tom Robinson the singer they’d now be homophobic
Anyone can write a book about anything from their own perspective. I imagine Helen Joyce is writing it from a woman's perspective and how the movement impacts women's rights. Helen isn't claiming to be transgender.
I guess all those biologists better stop writing about animals. Like geez, let's have some badgers and fish tell us what it feels like to be them in their own words. 🥰🥰
YES!!!!! I'm far more interested in what badgers and fish have to say than what people have to say about them. They certainly aren't dumb enough to buy into transgenderism.
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It’s so chilling. It makes me feel like I’ve gone insane…during the Satanic Panic or the age of the lobotomy, did the media misreport all controversy surrounding these issues the same way, with the same degree of bias? Or is this a new low, more akin to the propaganda of state-sponsored journalism in authoritarian (often communist autocratic) countries?
it is the propaganda of big pharma, at least according to the research of Jennifer Bilek. Someone elsewhere pointed out this generation has had no wars or any real strife whatever to worry about. I'm at the point of thinking we need to instill mandatory minimum military service like Israel for everyone just out of high school to redirect this generation's energy from street fascism like antifa/proud boys and give them some struggle. They literally do nothing but live online. My nephews come here and don't budge for six to eight hours. We really should not be surprised that they are up to no good. They are living in their heads completely and their bodies never get tired. All of the younger generation I know have procrastinated learning to drive, which is the weirdest thing ever. When I was in school not only were we playing outside every minute we could, vigorously, but we got our learners permit like the day we turned 15. But kids live online now so of course it's no big deal to them anymore.