Thank you for writing this. I was recently given Helen's book by a colleague on finishing working with her. (It's a marvellously informative and well balanced work). It also sits especially well after reading the Atwood comment this morning -- 'You can believe all you like that trans people aren't people.' -- It seems that us terfs not only hate and exclude transpeople but we now deny them their humanity. They keep pushing it to further extremes, what is the end point?
It's in The Sunday Times. Paywall so I didn't read the whole thing. I couldn't have managed it either. This is the lead headline ---
"There’s a difference between belief and fact...You can believe all you like that trans people aren’t people, but it happens not to be a fact. It's not true that there are only two boxes." @MargaretAtwood speaks to @ST_Culture.
This is great and spot on 😀. Can I make a request that excellent take downs like this are improved when there is a link, or an explanation, to what actually happened, identifying the lead personnel... I mean beyond the embedded links in the text which mean bobbing in and out of the piece several times? If I hadn’t been on Twitter on Saturday, I’d have had a hard time decoding it all 😀
Thank you for writing this. I was recently given Helen's book by a colleague on finishing working with her. (It's a marvellously informative and well balanced work). It also sits especially well after reading the Atwood comment this morning -- 'You can believe all you like that trans people aren't people.' -- It seems that us terfs not only hate and exclude transpeople but we now deny them their humanity. They keep pushing it to further extremes, what is the end point?
Did Atwood really say that?
yes. I'll go get the link. Bonkers.
I dunno if I can bear it.
It's in The Sunday Times. Paywall so I didn't read the whole thing. I couldn't have managed it either. This is the lead headline ---
"There’s a difference between belief and fact...You can believe all you like that trans people aren’t people, but it happens not to be a fact. It's not true that there are only two boxes." @MargaretAtwood speaks to @ST_Culture.
Yes, she did. She is getting rationed in the comments. BTW, another interesting piece in the Guardian, which made me miss MRKH on Twitter, and provides yet another explanation about why the Guardian is so biased: https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2020/nov/08/how-long-covid-forced-me-to-confront-my-past-and-my-identity?__twitter_impression=true
Ratioed.
This is so good. Really on point. Sadly, it is too intelligent for a misogynist of any stripe to to even bother reading.
This is great and spot on 😀. Can I make a request that excellent take downs like this are improved when there is a link, or an explanation, to what actually happened, identifying the lead personnel... I mean beyond the embedded links in the text which mean bobbing in and out of the piece several times? If I hadn’t been on Twitter on Saturday, I’d have had a hard time decoding it all 😀
yeah, that's my failing as an editor. I should have been more alert to that
Please can I be enlightened who the women are who have been targeted? Thanks
Ok I have understood it to be someone called Helen Lewis, I was unaware of her before now
This is brilliant
Great piece, as always.
Really good. 😊
Faxed!!