The BBC has just published its annual 100 Women List. As we’ve come to expect, in addition to the females being celebrated, there are a couple of trans-identified males. In 2013 the BBC pledged that it would better represent women in its international news output and launched its 100 Women List.
I will do a second complaint: why were those heroines campaigning for women's SEX-BASED rights not included? We all know why, of course. Still that will be the third communication to the Beeb today!
I have absolutely had it with the BBC. They have had my respect and admiration for half a century but it was misplaced. They sleepwalked into the Savile scandal but have no excuse this time. Who are the decision makers promoting this stuff?
Wonder who decided this list? they should be pilloried and then sacked. The national public broadcaster who believes they are our 'betters' and need's to educate the unenlightened amongst us is YET AGAIN proving themselves unfit for purpose.
This is why I can't understand all the previous respect given to the BBC. Their weapons-grade tone of moral superiority -- is that Ewen I have to thank for that phrase? -- when either speaking to the camera or interviewing heads-of-state not from the U.S. or western Europe is staggering, but I guess people just listened and accepted it. One of the best things we can do as Americans or Europeans is get over our sense that we're somehow superior to the rest of the world.
Conchita Wurst? Seriously? C W was never meant to be anything but an alter ego, a stage persona. Singer Thomas Neuwirth never claimed to be "non binary", to be "trans" or to "feel like a woman".
So the BBC cowtowed to queer ideology as early as 2014 and proclaimed a visibly fictional character to be one of the 100 most influential women.
JL, maybe the panel choosing the list could only find 98 women they thought were any good. Not even 100 inspirational women in country of 35 million odd women. What about the countless brilliant women we all know who face and defeat uniquely female challenges on a daily bases. And they chose 2 men. I’m speechless and beyond angry. My 4 year old daughter just took 3 hands of uno off me. She’s brilliant. Put her on the list before men please.
"It is simply factually incorrect to include on your yearly list of "BBC 100 Women" those who were born male, are male and will always be male XY.
This year Erika Hilton, an LGBTQ+ campaigner and politician from Brazil, and Efrat Tilma, an LGBTQ+ campaigner and volunteer with the Israeli Police, who are both men who have taken estrogen and grown fake breasts, are masquerading as women. And you have wrongly included them in your "Women" list.
Those two places should have gone to real women XX. You have deprived real women of the accolade which they, not these imposters, deserved.
I found it especially sickening, not just because men are included, but because so, so many of the real [apologies] women in the list are on it because of their activism against violence PERPETRATED BY MEN.
It's so, so shameful, by the BBC, it really is. Oh how far they have fallen...
Not forgetting Conchita is Spanish slang for "little c*nt" (from little concha shell & diminutive of the name Concepcion) + Wurst and you get Little C*nt Sausage.
To be fair: C W was always meant to be satirical of gender stereotypes. We can argue whether it is good satire or not, but it was always clear that this was the stage persona of a gay man. Thomas Neuwirth never claimed to "feel like a woman", "be a woman", be "non binary" or any of this. To my knowledge he also never championed transideology. This always remained within the confines of drag performance and never claimed to be anything else.
It was also always clear that C W was a fictional character. Whatever the BBC made of it, it would be unfair to blame it on the artist. This is not his fault.
There is probably a lot to be said about C W, and one doesn't have to like the idea nor the character. But it is deeply unfair to see this through the lens of the madness that has developped since.
The guy came up with the act around 2010 and had his high point in 2013. Transideology wasn't a thing until roughly 2015, according to observers such as Jane Clare Jones. So, these are really two different things.
As for the nomenclatura: I am not going to defend that. I never really got drag as an art form.
What you describe sounds like the Cockettes in San Francisco. Yes, they wore dresses and mocked such events as "Tricia's Wedding" (Nixon), but they never pretended to be anything other than gay men. And extremely funny gay men!
I have just been suspended from Twitter for the first time in a year. Can anyone please call for my reinstatement: @STranswidows ? Thank you.
My crime? "We need to discuss (1) repeal of the "flat Earth" law which is the GRA (2) removal of "gender reassignment" as a PC in the Equality Act 2010 - it is not needed as this mental disorder is a subcategory of the PC "Disability" and (3) consequent changes to Hate crime legislation. Then and only then, reality and common sense about SEX and the rejection of the neo-logism of "gender" will be complete. RIP "gender". All this stuff is in my pinned tweet and has been re-tweeted all over the place.
I have zero pateience for this inclusivity BS. Inclusivity should not require excluding anyone else - that's budging over and giving up space - space that should belong to women.
I find trans identified men modelling women’s clothes really irritating. It’s bad enough for young girls to look at abnormally tall and thin members of their own sex on the catwalk or in adverts but this is too much. I only just realised this was a thing (thought I’d been paying attention) after that disgusting person shouting at the KJK thing in New York the other week.
Be interested to see what they said - it really is worth contacting these brands and telling them we will never buy from them if they use men to advertise women’s clothes. The gender critical pound (or whatever currency) needs to become a thing.
My understanding for years has been that many models ARE male, just as many "showgirls" in Las Vegas are. When you have a job that requires extreme height, extreme thinness -- "Don't grow any hips!" -- males obviously fit the bill far better than most females.
The BBC counting to 100, is very 2+2=5.
Did Raquel Rosario Sánchez, Maya Forstater, Allison Bailey, Kathleen Stock, or any of the true female heroes of recent times get a mention?
I will do a second complaint: why were those heroines campaigning for women's SEX-BASED rights not included? We all know why, of course. Still that will be the third communication to the Beeb today!
I have absolutely had it with the BBC. They have had my respect and admiration for half a century but it was misplaced. They sleepwalked into the Savile scandal but have no excuse this time. Who are the decision makers promoting this stuff?
I'd like to know that also. Who decides this shit?
If you pay your TV license then you are actively supporting this kind of bullshit. My advice: if you haven't already done so, cancel it immediately.
Wonder who decided this list? they should be pilloried and then sacked. The national public broadcaster who believes they are our 'betters' and need's to educate the unenlightened amongst us is YET AGAIN proving themselves unfit for purpose.
This is why I can't understand all the previous respect given to the BBC. Their weapons-grade tone of moral superiority -- is that Ewen I have to thank for that phrase? -- when either speaking to the camera or interviewing heads-of-state not from the U.S. or western Europe is staggering, but I guess people just listened and accepted it. One of the best things we can do as Americans or Europeans is get over our sense that we're somehow superior to the rest of the world.
Conchita Wurst? Seriously? C W was never meant to be anything but an alter ego, a stage persona. Singer Thomas Neuwirth never claimed to be "non binary", to be "trans" or to "feel like a woman".
So the BBC cowtowed to queer ideology as early as 2014 and proclaimed a visibly fictional character to be one of the 100 most influential women.
It can hardly get any more obvious than that.
JL, maybe the panel choosing the list could only find 98 women they thought were any good. Not even 100 inspirational women in country of 35 million odd women. What about the countless brilliant women we all know who face and defeat uniquely female challenges on a daily bases. And they chose 2 men. I’m speechless and beyond angry. My 4 year old daughter just took 3 hands of uno off me. She’s brilliant. Put her on the list before men please.
oh sorry only 98 in the world not just the uk.
This is so insulting to women. I wonder if there is a top 100 mens list with transitioned females on there.
I have just complained: Factual inaccuracy:
"It is simply factually incorrect to include on your yearly list of "BBC 100 Women" those who were born male, are male and will always be male XY.
This year Erika Hilton, an LGBTQ+ campaigner and politician from Brazil, and Efrat Tilma, an LGBTQ+ campaigner and volunteer with the Israeli Police, who are both men who have taken estrogen and grown fake breasts, are masquerading as women. And you have wrongly included them in your "Women" list.
Those two places should have gone to real women XX. You have deprived real women of the accolade which they, not these imposters, deserved.
#sexnotgender.
Post their reply here, won't you?
Bien écrit, Una. Thank you for sending this to them.
Men do not belong on a women's list
Under any circumstances
what?! not even the really brave ones?
No
I found it especially sickening, not just because men are included, but because so, so many of the real [apologies] women in the list are on it because of their activism against violence PERPETRATED BY MEN.
It's so, so shameful, by the BBC, it really is. Oh how far they have fallen...
Fallen from where? They always seemed like a bunch of bloody, self-righteous assholes to me.
No apologies needed.
Not forgetting Conchita is Spanish slang for "little c*nt" (from little concha shell & diminutive of the name Concepcion) + Wurst and you get Little C*nt Sausage.
Very charming, very feminist.
To be fair: C W was always meant to be satirical of gender stereotypes. We can argue whether it is good satire or not, but it was always clear that this was the stage persona of a gay man. Thomas Neuwirth never claimed to "feel like a woman", "be a woman", be "non binary" or any of this. To my knowledge he also never championed transideology. This always remained within the confines of drag performance and never claimed to be anything else.
It was also always clear that C W was a fictional character. Whatever the BBC made of it, it would be unfair to blame it on the artist. This is not his fault.
There is probably a lot to be said about C W, and one doesn't have to like the idea nor the character. But it is deeply unfair to see this through the lens of the madness that has developped since.
Agreed, he has been very clear in his interviews. More clever than the average.
Separately, a lot of drag & drag names remain a real issue for me and how acceptable it becomes to accept deeply misogynistic and vile nomenclature.
The guy came up with the act around 2010 and had his high point in 2013. Transideology wasn't a thing until roughly 2015, according to observers such as Jane Clare Jones. So, these are really two different things.
As for the nomenclatura: I am not going to defend that. I never really got drag as an art form.
What you describe sounds like the Cockettes in San Francisco. Yes, they wore dresses and mocked such events as "Tricia's Wedding" (Nixon), but they never pretended to be anything other than gay men. And extremely funny gay men!
The Age of Senselessness.
I have just been suspended from Twitter for the first time in a year. Can anyone please call for my reinstatement: @STranswidows ? Thank you.
My crime? "We need to discuss (1) repeal of the "flat Earth" law which is the GRA (2) removal of "gender reassignment" as a PC in the Equality Act 2010 - it is not needed as this mental disorder is a subcategory of the PC "Disability" and (3) consequent changes to Hate crime legislation. Then and only then, reality and common sense about SEX and the rejection of the neo-logism of "gender" will be complete. RIP "gender". All this stuff is in my pinned tweet and has been re-tweeted all over the place.
Thank you for any help you can give!
I have zero pateience for this inclusivity BS. Inclusivity should not require excluding anyone else - that's budging over and giving up space - space that should belong to women.
I find trans identified men modelling women’s clothes really irritating. It’s bad enough for young girls to look at abnormally tall and thin members of their own sex on the catwalk or in adverts but this is too much. I only just realised this was a thing (thought I’d been paying attention) after that disgusting person shouting at the KJK thing in New York the other week.
That disgusting person's name is Anthony Matucci and he's been dropped as a Coach handbag spekesperson, due to complaints from our side.
Oh I didn’t know that - good news!
Oh! I hadn't heard that he was dropped. Did they make some kind of statement about it?
Be interested to see what they said - it really is worth contacting these brands and telling them we will never buy from them if they use men to advertise women’s clothes. The gender critical pound (or whatever currency) needs to become a thing.
My understanding for years has been that many models ARE male, just as many "showgirls" in Las Vegas are. When you have a job that requires extreme height, extreme thinness -- "Don't grow any hips!" -- males obviously fit the bill far better than most females.
I can’t believe I didn’t know this! Seems obvious now - and still infuriating
2 women have been discriminated against in favour of two men. It’s that simple. Disgusting. We have still got a lot of fighting to do.