Punishing a disabled person for asking a reasonable question, since they can, despite their neurological disability, correctly sex other humans just like every human on the planet (as well as dogs) is simply outrageous. I don’t know how the judges in this case, who disregarded one protected characteristic (disability) in favour of another (gender reassignment) sleep at night.
I agree, Anna. It's appalling that the court, having been informed that Declan has Asperger's, didn't bother to understand the condition or simply didn't care. A member of my family is on the autism spectrum and routinely speaks his mind. (I find his honesty very refreshing!) There is no judgement attached to his statements or questions; he's just vocalising his observations. To leave this young lad with a "hate crime" on his record is cruel and unnecessary and, in my view, was simply pandering to the woke crowd.
Yes, it's extraordinarily cruel to have changed this young man with considerable challenges a "hate crime" altogether IMHO. If this happened to someone I happened to know, I'd be strongly tempted to try and charge the police force or DPP itself with discrimination. It's outrageous that anyone should be charged with a hate crime for having asked a question of someone (don't genderists always say that we shouldn't "assume" a person's pronouns or gender identity anyway?) let alone a person who's neurodivergent. Talk about ablesim in action!
The judge or magistrate in this case should be ashamed of themselves.
I agree, Lida. It would have been ridiculous to prosecute anyone under these circumstances but to do so to a teenager with autism is despicable. What a nasty piece of work Freel must be, to put vulnerable young man through hell and then be so bloody smug about it afterwards.
Also, it is terrifying that some of the $$ is going to the cop. This punishment seems like a sure fire way to have some bad actors look for people who will insult them just to make a better living than they would in many jobs.
Isn't it? A terrible precedent WRT pecuniary advantage has been set in Australia too. $10000AUD for the "crime"of liking 3 comments made on one's FB page! That Bridget Clinch was already bordering on being a vexatious litigant but now a Equal Opportunity Tribunal has set the barn door wide open for any vindictive narcissist to cash in on the suppression of women's freedom of expression. It's disgusting.
Yes, the initial action against Beth Rep was only one of four suits Clinch had filed. From a newspaper report I read: "Ms Clinch said all but this particular complaint had been settled by simply sitting down with the other party." In other words, Beth Rep refused to be bullied into submission so had to be crushed. Clinch served in the military but gets upset by Facebook likes? This was all about the wielding of power and punishing a woman who refused to pander to his delusions.
I had read about the other suits and wonder how much "get lost" money can be gleaned in such a shakedown? I rather doubt many buy the claim of intensely wounded feelings! Certainly, the case would surely have been paradoxically injurious to Clinch's reputation if they still worked in a professional capacity? I cannot believe a brief would advise to continue with it.
Perhaps they will punish the parents by taking the child off them and instead foster them out to a lovely trans couple. Nah, they would never do that.......🙄
How is that person fit to be a police officer if they are so damn fragile they can’t cope with being accidentally misgendered - can you imagine the actual abuse police officers put up with in the course of their jobs? Also, do police officers not get any training in dealing with people with additional needs? Even if they don’t, surely most people have some understanding of ASD nowadays.
My 14 yr daughter has a learning disability and is virtually non verbal (so at least she can’t say the wrong thing, I suppose) but is very friendly and often approaches strangers to try to ask them questions about their pets and families. People often look a bit surprised, but are nearly always kind and understanding, even other children who you might expect to be a bit fazed.
But this twat-in-a-hat could only think about his own bloody feelings, and then the judge, hearing the magic word ‘trans’, took his side over a vulnerable teen. I can’t even tell you how angry this makes me. 🤬
Same here, Sarah. Freel is supposed to be upholding the law, not make a mockery of it. I do not believe the "I was left so traumatised I can't face going out on patrol alone now" act but, if it's genuine, a career re-think might be in order! I'm so angry at the narcissism and spite involved in making a vulnerable teenager suffer because he couldn't pander to your delusions.
Also, apparently female drag queens are getting hassle from the male ones. They see it as ‘appropriation’. Ru Paul refuses them entry cos they lack ‘irony and danger’. Being a woman is dangerous enough, mate.
So, we can’t be women cos that’s offensive or even an exaggerated caricature of women now?
One of the best parts--"women have been complaining about drag for years." This movement demonstrates what women have been doing wrong is not being men (or that men really will never view women as oppressed due to misogyny).
Yes, it's fine for the Drag Race crew et al to perform these overtly sexualised and hugely offensive parodies of womanhood but if students play dress up for a night out. in swoops the Special Snowflake Squad. Just underlines how unimportant we are.
Punishing a disabled person for asking a reasonable question, since they can, despite their neurological disability, correctly sex other humans just like every human on the planet (as well as dogs) is simply outrageous. I don’t know how the judges in this case, who disregarded one protected characteristic (disability) in favour of another (gender reassignment) sleep at night.
I agree, Anna. It's appalling that the court, having been informed that Declan has Asperger's, didn't bother to understand the condition or simply didn't care. A member of my family is on the autism spectrum and routinely speaks his mind. (I find his honesty very refreshing!) There is no judgement attached to his statements or questions; he's just vocalising his observations. To leave this young lad with a "hate crime" on his record is cruel and unnecessary and, in my view, was simply pandering to the woke crowd.
I also have a relative on the spectrum, and know many others. For courts to be so willfully ignorant of neurological disabilities is unacceptable.
Yes, it's extraordinarily cruel to have changed this young man with considerable challenges a "hate crime" altogether IMHO. If this happened to someone I happened to know, I'd be strongly tempted to try and charge the police force or DPP itself with discrimination. It's outrageous that anyone should be charged with a hate crime for having asked a question of someone (don't genderists always say that we shouldn't "assume" a person's pronouns or gender identity anyway?) let alone a person who's neurodivergent. Talk about ablesim in action!
The judge or magistrate in this case should be ashamed of themselves.
*with a hate crime, sorry
I agree, Lida. It would have been ridiculous to prosecute anyone under these circumstances but to do so to a teenager with autism is despicable. What a nasty piece of work Freel must be, to put vulnerable young man through hell and then be so bloody smug about it afterwards.
Also, it is terrifying that some of the $$ is going to the cop. This punishment seems like a sure fire way to have some bad actors look for people who will insult them just to make a better living than they would in many jobs.
Isn't it? A terrible precedent WRT pecuniary advantage has been set in Australia too. $10000AUD for the "crime"of liking 3 comments made on one's FB page! That Bridget Clinch was already bordering on being a vexatious litigant but now a Equal Opportunity Tribunal has set the barn door wide open for any vindictive narcissist to cash in on the suppression of women's freedom of expression. It's disgusting.
Yes, the initial action against Beth Rep was only one of four suits Clinch had filed. From a newspaper report I read: "Ms Clinch said all but this particular complaint had been settled by simply sitting down with the other party." In other words, Beth Rep refused to be bullied into submission so had to be crushed. Clinch served in the military but gets upset by Facebook likes? This was all about the wielding of power and punishing a woman who refused to pander to his delusions.
I had read about the other suits and wonder how much "get lost" money can be gleaned in such a shakedown? I rather doubt many buy the claim of intensely wounded feelings! Certainly, the case would surely have been paradoxically injurious to Clinch's reputation if they still worked in a professional capacity? I cannot believe a brief would advise to continue with it.
Perhaps they will punish the parents by taking the child off them and instead foster them out to a lovely trans couple. Nah, they would never do that.......🙄
How is that person fit to be a police officer if they are so damn fragile they can’t cope with being accidentally misgendered - can you imagine the actual abuse police officers put up with in the course of their jobs? Also, do police officers not get any training in dealing with people with additional needs? Even if they don’t, surely most people have some understanding of ASD nowadays.
My 14 yr daughter has a learning disability and is virtually non verbal (so at least she can’t say the wrong thing, I suppose) but is very friendly and often approaches strangers to try to ask them questions about their pets and families. People often look a bit surprised, but are nearly always kind and understanding, even other children who you might expect to be a bit fazed.
But this twat-in-a-hat could only think about his own bloody feelings, and then the judge, hearing the magic word ‘trans’, took his side over a vulnerable teen. I can’t even tell you how angry this makes me. 🤬
Same here, Sarah. Freel is supposed to be upholding the law, not make a mockery of it. I do not believe the "I was left so traumatised I can't face going out on patrol alone now" act but, if it's genuine, a career re-think might be in order! I'm so angry at the narcissism and spite involved in making a vulnerable teenager suffer because he couldn't pander to your delusions.
Also, apparently female drag queens are getting hassle from the male ones. They see it as ‘appropriation’. Ru Paul refuses them entry cos they lack ‘irony and danger’. Being a woman is dangerous enough, mate.
So, we can’t be women cos that’s offensive or even an exaggerated caricature of women now?
I know. Insane, isn't it?
One of the best parts--"women have been complaining about drag for years." This movement demonstrates what women have been doing wrong is not being men (or that men really will never view women as oppressed due to misogyny).
Yes, it's fine for the Drag Race crew et al to perform these overtly sexualised and hugely offensive parodies of womanhood but if students play dress up for a night out. in swoops the Special Snowflake Squad. Just underlines how unimportant we are.