As an old woman who has experienced pain from operations and knows the discomfort of menopause, I am horrified at the unnecessary physical suffering. These children do not know how much pain and suffering is involved with these horrific surgeries, surgeries that adults undergo only as a life saving, last resort because of the catastrophic impact on the human body. I suspect that Detranstioners are shocked at how much their body hurts and that that unbearable pain is their first “wake up” notice. I think that it should be mandated that before anyone undergoes these massive unnecessary surgeries, they have a toe or a finger amputated. Children in perfectly healthy bodies have no concept of pain. Emotional distress yes but physical pain no.
Great idea. (But even then, the TRAs would try and take over the concept- a Pre-Trans Boot Camp. where you have your fingers trapped in doors, big weights dropped on your toes constantly, have to carry a rucsac of bricks over an obstacle course- to prepare yourself for the far worse pain to come. And glory in your suffering: so much pain, that it proves how valuable the 'transition' must be! Be a martyr for the noble cause!)
So many of the girls who proudly show off their self-harm mastectomies are also showing off their years of self-harm and cutting. Arms, neck, stomach, chest, thighs, the lot with multiple cuts and burns. Months or years where the skin has tried to heal but can't hope to win against the forces driving the destruction. That this 15th Century flagellation ever became something to be worn as a modern badge of honour, to be proud of, to encourage others to do the same is beyond disturbing. I've also met a number of young women with weight issues and disordered eating and this intense fight to gain control or be seen. The body as a site of contest and argument. It's all very literal-minded and the need to prove the internal distress externally and carry that around as a display and identity.
To be proud that one has got through a life-threatening and unpleasant disease or injury and are still here with the scars that leaves has been chucked in with this, so that it's now all something 'to be proud of'. I got very sick of very disturbed people telling me about their special tattoos and how each one meant something special. Ummmm, yes, of course, that's fascinating, do tell me your story at length and repeatedly. Oh, yes, I know, like the other four tatts exactly the same that I've seen this week to signify your individuality and mental health struggle. Gone are the days you got a bit drunk and were egged on to do something silly and permanent, now it's all wearing your life and your inner soul gender thoughts plastered over you as what? Why am I interested? Am I supposed to affirm, confirm and validate? It's never enough. It's not a rite of passage to pretend it's a mishmash of a cod faʻafafine religious and cultural practice to look superior.
What have we done to our younger selves and exposed them to this?
Yes, these mastectomies performed by medical community are in fact outsourced self-harm. I don’t understand why that isn’t obvious to everyone. I really just don’t get it.
It is sad that they deride the GC people who genuinely grieve for the loss of their body parts and innocence. These young people put their trust in thoughtless, cruel and it seems to me evil adults who care nothing for them. Heartbreaking isn’t a big enough word for what they have done. I want to reach out to these detransitioners but don’t know what to do. Does anyone else have any good ideas of how we could ease their pain? I could do a bit of mollycoddling but I think their needs are bigger than that.
I feel the same way. Sinead Watson, from UK, is a very effective advocate for detransitioners and is one herself. Look her up and see what kind of support she believes would be appreciated by detrans community. Let me know!
I am permanently suspended from Twitter. But I should be back next week, thanks to Elon.
The gender cult use words and language to paint a pretty picture it’s time we did the same to draw attention to the true reality. ‘Outsourced self harm’ as you put is is precisely what we need to accuse the NHS of.
I did not come up with that brilliant and true characterization of what the medical community does to these vulnerable youths. I believe it was Sam Barber who coined it as “outsourced self-harm.” It’s been a while so I’m not positive it was him but I think so.
Sinead is one who worries me as she feels her mental health is not good and she is drinking too much. I admire so much in her and if mothering was all she needed she could move in here tomorrow.
Oh no, is this a recent development? Sinead quit smoking sometime last year. I think she said she cut down on the drinking. She was doing so well with her boyfriend. It seemed his acceptance of her saved her from the edge. As I said, I’ve been banned from Twitter so I have no idea how she is currently. Lovely woman.
So much self harm is celebrated. Having multiple tattoos is another form of self harm as is multiple piercings. These are seen as something positive and so many people do not understand why they are asked to cover their tattoos or remove facial piercings. They see it as a human rights abuse!!!!! Then there are the scars from cutting. My best friend had a destructive streak caused by years of sexual abuse. She cut herself so many times she had scar tissue on her scar tissue. Other friends suggested she have them tattooed and show them off, with pride!! That was a, step too far for her but they didn't get it... The reason for her cutting was her shame.
That is so sad! Your friend has nothing for which to feel shame, as I’m sure you told her. The shame is on those who violated her.
And I agree with you about sleeve tattoos and face piercings. It’s all in the realm of self-harm, just varying degrees of it. Society’s celebration of these self-destructive behaviors legitimizes and promotes self harm.
My friend died of Aids 20+ years ago. She tried really hard to get over everything. Finally she was on the road to recovery, then the truck hit her, big time. But her abuser not only got Aids too, he also got a jail sentence before he died. Justice was done, she just didn't know. Cutting is always a cry for help and should never be "celebrated".
Hey, I just want to request that you not conflate tattoos and piercings worn by *adults* with the grotesque and sick joke that is gender identity ideology.
Tattoos and piercings are self harm? I can’t agree with that. Not as a broad statement.
I’m not one of those people that bores other people with stories re: my body mods. All the same, each one does have intense personal meaning to me. I grew up in a fanatical, unstable, abusive household, and much importance was placed on my appearance. It’s not really important that you understand the details and motivation behind my choices. I assure you that I had my reasons, and yes, it was and is therapeutic.
I guess all I ask from you is to consider that the people who get body mods have their own reasons for what they do. When I was growing up, adults close to me made sure I understood that I was not allowed to refuse their advances, and that they had every right to violate me. My tattoos and piercings are visual reminders that my body is MINE.
Plus, I like the way it looks. A lot of people do. I’m not a masochist, I’m not crazy, and I’m not just trying to get attention. Sure, some idiots might be those things, but it’s not a situation that calls for blanket statements.
Lol okay. I don’t need you to approve of my mods or anyone else’s. I just turned 51 and I’m not too worried about what people think about my choices (I’m very much an adult, though). There are just too many people in too many cultures with mods and too many reasons for getting them to assume there’s only one thing driving it. I hope you can see that. You might not like it, but we don’t do it for you ❤️ I feel like trying to lump us all together is at least similar to holding gay people responsible for gender nonsense. My actions have nothing to do with kids cutting, or self harm in general.
Cutting to relieve psychological pain is a whole other thing, and shouldn’t be glorified, I agree. I couldn’t believe that such a thing could become “trendy” with kids, but then again, I never EVER would have conceived the horror of our current “gender trend.”
I’m very sorry about your friend. That relationship obviously had a strong impact on you. I know it’s frustrating to watch someone struggling with those kinds of issues.
Honestly? My theory is that they view real life as no different than a video game.
The first thing they do is create a *character*
This process primarily involves choosing an appearance. This will dictate how other people react to you, and how you’re treated in general as you go on your adventure.
When you listen to the long string of adjectives and labels they “identify“ with and expect others to remember, they’re failing to notice that in real life, there’s no visible stats floating above your head or wherever. No one cares about your character sheet. To me, it just screams habitual dissociation and poor real life socialization.
Which brings me to the adventure itself. They are automatically heroes from the beginning, and enemies are very clearly marked. They seek out others just like them to fight in their heroic campaign. By working together, they overwhelm and destroy enemies. No thought or consideration for those you destroy is necessary. If someone is against you for any reason, they deserve destruction. We might as well be NPCs, and I’ve personally experienced the dismissal of my humanity because I’m “On the wrong side of history” (omg how fucking stupid is THAT? Yeah, kiddo. I’m sure your castration cult will be very well regarded 10, 20, and 50 years from now) 🙄😑
It’s immature, solipsistic, and narcissistic, and echoes personality disorders like borderline PD with its black and white thinking, and histrionic PD for… rather obvious reasons. They are naturally overjoyed at the prospect of doing progressive and noble works via trolling, doxxing, intimidating, and destroying anyone who dares have reservations about their culty, superstitious religion. Oh wow… I just realized, they’re on a literal Crusade. A crusade to erase all other beliefs, and force trans ideology on society, particularly on women who don’t buy their nonsense.
Ugh. I know most of them are young, but wow these people are stupid. I asked one of them why they needed queer theory in order to figure themselves out, when the rest of us managed to do it on our own. No answer, naturally.
What is wrong with you? 😂 I don’t think they should do it either, but I wouldn’t force someone to have a finger or toe amputated in order to undergo surgery to remove a part they WANT removed. You’re insane. Please keep it to yourself.
I don't think there's anything 'wrong' with her, she's trying to convey the impact major surgery has on the body. I feel the suggestion that an adolescent boy or girl who wants their breasts removed, their penis inverted and balls cuts off, or half their arm sliced off to create an ugly, functionless appendage hanging between their legs, must first have a finger or toe amputated, emphasises how inappropriate these operations are.
To make it a condition that a digit is amputated before a young person wanting this surgery can go ahead, would be an immoral act. A doctor or hospital sanctioning or doing this shouldn't be allowed to practice. Just like the surgeon in Miami, the ghoulish, sociopath who yeets teets for her millions, shouldn't be allowed to practice. Not just that, she should have her liberty taken away too.
This is my interpretation at least, perhaps it's wrong, only the person who wrote the comment could answer that. The person you called insane, she should keep her thoughts to herself. I don't think she's insane, but I do think you're uncivil and abusive. Take your own advice in future.
These are people looking to cut off their breasts or testicles. If they recoil at losing a finger or toe, I’d say that’s evidence that they have NO idea what they’re requesting. You’d be amazed how little some of these kids understand about the process. One poor girl was on r/detrans (a Subreddit for detransitioners, with over 40,000 members last time I checked) was asking when her breasts would grow back. So much of this is socially reinforced magical thinking and disconnection from reality
This isn't from Paperchase is it? Our local Paperchase (UK) is full of rainbow/trans flag trinkets, like an NB Santa. Clearly marketed to the teens and tweens. I was disturbed. Genuinely a few items like this one but I didn't notice any details like these scars...
I remember when that came out, Christmas 2017. Stays a representative image of 'gender clinician' for me.
On Bari Weiss' 'Common Sense' substack there's a BTL surgeon who's written more than once that he's moving from California to Florida, most of his staff moving too, so that they're not required to do this to young people. THE reason he's given for moving. Good on him, but why a seemingly lone voice?!
Wow! My thoughts have occasionally drifted to the Sidhbh Gallagher types (+ staff) who'll inevitably be driven OUT of Florida, but that's incredible.
So wait, surgeons don't have the right to decline any specific patient or operation type? That's chillimg asf... I guess I alws just assumed that right, up to the threshold of the '64 civil rights act (i.e., that the law would be broken only if the patients in question constituted a Federally protected class, which no age group does).
Does that mean that e.g., a gynecological surgeon who personally holds strong anti-abortion beliefs could be forced to perform abortions?
Somebody who knows current California law will need to step in to clarify, sorry. I just read his posts on a couple of occasions months apart, know that California is benchmark (low-tide mark?) gung-ho on youth gender 'medicine' and has also, incredibly, just made itself a 'sanctuary state' for kids from other states whose parents aren't on board with gender treatments. From a 30 Sept article:
'On Thursday, California governor Gavin Newsom signed legislation that would facilitate child gender-transition tourism from other states.
'The bill, spearheaded by Democratic state senator Scott Wiener, aims to make California a “sanctuary state” for out-of-state children to receive so-called gender-affirming surgery and hormone therapy without the knowledge or consent of their parents.'
The surgeon wasn't super specific, so maybe it was to avoid working where colleagues were removing healthy organs from the gender-groomed, and where the pressure was applied for him and other clinicians not to refuse to do so. Sorry not to be more certain.
As for breasts, I've always found 'sex characteristics' an unsatisfying and even inaccurately reductive descriptor. For those of us who've grown a human in our uterus, then grown them onward with our breasts, they seem every bit as much 'organs' as a uterus is, just doing their reproductive job externally. What's the betting that 'breasts' got left off the long list of organs (total: 78!) and reduced to 'sex characteristics' not by women... ?
Oh good, the queering of Christmas. I wonder what else is on the way, Father Christmas as a non binary, lesbian trans woman in christmassy bondage gear. Huge breast, don't know about a penis, let's not indulge the GC obsession with what's between people's legs. Maybe she'll keep the facial hair, but nicely trimmed so it doesn't conceal the bright red lipstick she's wearing. And nails like that gorgeous, glamorous girl, Eddie Izzard. Ho Ho Ho.
I mean, to be perfectly fair, the practice of uprooting trees, dragging them into houses, and propping up the literally dead tree for a month or even longer (by the end of which time it poses a positively redoubtable fire hazard—basically it's seven or eight feet of pure kindling by that point) is already pretty damn weird, if not 'queer' in the XXI century sense.
Christmas trees and the rituals surrounding them have alws reminded me of the XIX century American(?) practice of propping up very recently departed family members on household furniture, donning 'Sunday clothes' as a family, and doing whole photo shoots as though the late family member were very much still alive, if just rather listless and not so much living their best life that day... Except actually even weirder than that, because the archetypal evergreen Christmas trees are utterly unlike anything that grows in the Holy Land or anywhere even remotely close to it. 🤷🏾♀️
Recognizing the overall weirdness doesn't stop me (or anyone else i've laughed with after talking a good step back) from enjoying anything.
TBH it just adds another distinct layer of laughs and enjoyment to get-togethers that are always fun.
Do you have to... actually respect the origins of something to enjoy it? If so, then I don't think it's me whose household has the over-earnestness problem TBH.
There's also the added problem that Christmas is Jan. 7th for the people in my family to whom Christmas matters the most, because Orthodox.
Pine trees are part of the western world's Christmas not because they have anything to do with the land where Jesus was supposed to have been born, but rather because they're associated in northern European tradition with the winter solstice... a pagan holiday that was later absorbed into Christmas. Evergreens (also including mistletoe) represent the "undying sun"-- a reminder that, on the shortest day of the year, during the coldest season, life still persists, and people can look forward to the promise of spring. Celebrating the birth of an immortal figure (who dies only to rise again) on the winter solstice was therefore very much in keeping with its spirit.
Ah, thank you. I was aware of the pagan / winter solstice associations, mostly because they help to explain why Christmas is celebrated in northern midwinter, but didn't connect those with the 🌲
They really will try to tarnish anything. Christmas is for kids. The magic, the decorations, the presents, Father Christmas. So to see a children’s holiday (it is in my eyes) tarnished in this way just angers me.
See. How consistently they tell on themselves. It IS a religious cult. Travesty on a Christmas tree. A mutilated, bearded, obligatory rainbow-flagged, non-sexually-functioning woman gazing in supplication upwards toward a 'Mermaids' heaven for help. (Sorry to burst your 'trans' bubble dearie, but Mermaids soon will be nonexistent.) Can't wait to see the matching be-wigged, lipsticked, chest-implanted man. Or will they be really daring, and fashion a plain old bloke claiming 'womanhood'. One who hasn't done anything to 'transition'? Or a 'non-binary' decoration. Now there's a challenge.
p.s. Unless I've been duped and this is a Moley confection, haha. I don't care. Still outraged.
He's a regular on here (MoleAtTheCounter); does a lot of good Photoshop stuff. Clever parodies, though it's getting hard to tell parody from the truth at this point.
Well this will replace those angels and religious icons we don't believe in anymore. Welcome to new hell. New Zealand shopping center unveiled a gender fluid Santa Claus as its Christmas display. The new version of Kris Kringle, dressed in knickers and fishnet stockings, is modeled after Mary Poppins, carrying the magical British nanny’s umbrella and a carpet bag “full of presents.”
Perhaps you would like to see how BBC interviewed Suzie Green in 2016 as she get Body Dysphoria mixed up with Transitioning and compare with how they questioned Graham in 2020
Also BBC Newsnight's Evan Davies rolling out the red carpet for Susie Green while shushing Transgender Trend's Stephanie Davies-Arai. The worst of it isn't available online, I wonder why.
Oh this is an awful interview. I can hardly bear it! A slug knows more about child development than SG.
Of course a child can be encouraged to believe they are really meant to be the opposite sex. They believe in Santa up to what, 9 or 10? Her son was 4 when he first made this statement!
Just show a child a transgender picture book with a stereotypically "boyish" boy and a stereotypically "girly" girl and a tomboy will resonate so much more with the boy.
Kids are vulnerable, as we've witnessed. Their brain hasn't developed nuanced thinking. Just like they can't understand that a boy can be feminine and still be a boy, and a girl can be masculine and still be a girl (if rigid structures are reinforced at home, as they were for JG).
Same reason DQSH is a bad f*cking idea. Who would encourage a child to believe that a man dressed as a woman is someone safe and to be trusted? World - bad. Drag Queen - good.
So done with her total BS. And Ewan, going "what's your point? I don't know what your point is?" Well, isn't it clear? Kids can be simply be gender non-conforming and liberal homes don't trans their kids. What's wrong with him?
They have a hell of lot of confidence, visibility and a tendency towards aggression for a people fearing or maybe experiencing a genocide. What an appalling misuse and abuse of that word.
Nice to see today that the “Our Streets Now” campaign has decided that rather than focussing on preventing street harassment against women and girls that they should also be concerning themselves with ensuring transwomen have access to female only toilets to keep them safe. I can’t even bring myself to comment on their Instagram posts. All the handmaidens think it’s a great idea.
This winds me up so much. Even vigils for women's safety where women wander about with candles, the same women in favour of letting men into female spaces. I mean, WTF!?
As an old woman who has experienced pain from operations and knows the discomfort of menopause, I am horrified at the unnecessary physical suffering. These children do not know how much pain and suffering is involved with these horrific surgeries, surgeries that adults undergo only as a life saving, last resort because of the catastrophic impact on the human body. I suspect that Detranstioners are shocked at how much their body hurts and that that unbearable pain is their first “wake up” notice. I think that it should be mandated that before anyone undergoes these massive unnecessary surgeries, they have a toe or a finger amputated. Children in perfectly healthy bodies have no concept of pain. Emotional distress yes but physical pain no.
Great idea. (But even then, the TRAs would try and take over the concept- a Pre-Trans Boot Camp. where you have your fingers trapped in doors, big weights dropped on your toes constantly, have to carry a rucsac of bricks over an obstacle course- to prepare yourself for the far worse pain to come. And glory in your suffering: so much pain, that it proves how valuable the 'transition' must be! Be a martyr for the noble cause!)
So many of the girls who proudly show off their self-harm mastectomies are also showing off their years of self-harm and cutting. Arms, neck, stomach, chest, thighs, the lot with multiple cuts and burns. Months or years where the skin has tried to heal but can't hope to win against the forces driving the destruction. That this 15th Century flagellation ever became something to be worn as a modern badge of honour, to be proud of, to encourage others to do the same is beyond disturbing. I've also met a number of young women with weight issues and disordered eating and this intense fight to gain control or be seen. The body as a site of contest and argument. It's all very literal-minded and the need to prove the internal distress externally and carry that around as a display and identity.
To be proud that one has got through a life-threatening and unpleasant disease or injury and are still here with the scars that leaves has been chucked in with this, so that it's now all something 'to be proud of'. I got very sick of very disturbed people telling me about their special tattoos and how each one meant something special. Ummmm, yes, of course, that's fascinating, do tell me your story at length and repeatedly. Oh, yes, I know, like the other four tatts exactly the same that I've seen this week to signify your individuality and mental health struggle. Gone are the days you got a bit drunk and were egged on to do something silly and permanent, now it's all wearing your life and your inner soul gender thoughts plastered over you as what? Why am I interested? Am I supposed to affirm, confirm and validate? It's never enough. It's not a rite of passage to pretend it's a mishmash of a cod faʻafafine religious and cultural practice to look superior.
What have we done to our younger selves and exposed them to this?
Yes, these mastectomies performed by medical community are in fact outsourced self-harm. I don’t understand why that isn’t obvious to everyone. I really just don’t get it.
It is sad that they deride the GC people who genuinely grieve for the loss of their body parts and innocence. These young people put their trust in thoughtless, cruel and it seems to me evil adults who care nothing for them. Heartbreaking isn’t a big enough word for what they have done. I want to reach out to these detransitioners but don’t know what to do. Does anyone else have any good ideas of how we could ease their pain? I could do a bit of mollycoddling but I think their needs are bigger than that.
I feel the same way. Sinead Watson, from UK, is a very effective advocate for detransitioners and is one herself. Look her up and see what kind of support she believes would be appreciated by detrans community. Let me know!
I am permanently suspended from Twitter. But I should be back next week, thanks to Elon.
Detransitioners are the key, I agree.
The gender cult use words and language to paint a pretty picture it’s time we did the same to draw attention to the true reality. ‘Outsourced self harm’ as you put is is precisely what we need to accuse the NHS of.
I did not come up with that brilliant and true characterization of what the medical community does to these vulnerable youths. I believe it was Sam Barber who coined it as “outsourced self-harm.” It’s been a while so I’m not positive it was him but I think so.
Its effectively medically condoned, societal supporting and STATE SANCTIONED aiding of SELF HARM.
State sanctioned gay genocide.
This should be as illegal as pro-ana websites.
Sinead is one who worries me as she feels her mental health is not good and she is drinking too much. I admire so much in her and if mothering was all she needed she could move in here tomorrow.
Oh no, is this a recent development? Sinead quit smoking sometime last year. I think she said she cut down on the drinking. She was doing so well with her boyfriend. It seemed his acceptance of her saved her from the edge. As I said, I’ve been banned from Twitter so I have no idea how she is currently. Lovely woman.
Let me add that Sinead is very close to her mother, sister, nephew and father at this point in her life. She has a wonderful family.
I’m glad you told me that. Family are so important if they are supportive.
So much self harm is celebrated. Having multiple tattoos is another form of self harm as is multiple piercings. These are seen as something positive and so many people do not understand why they are asked to cover their tattoos or remove facial piercings. They see it as a human rights abuse!!!!! Then there are the scars from cutting. My best friend had a destructive streak caused by years of sexual abuse. She cut herself so many times she had scar tissue on her scar tissue. Other friends suggested she have them tattooed and show them off, with pride!! That was a, step too far for her but they didn't get it... The reason for her cutting was her shame.
That is so sad! Your friend has nothing for which to feel shame, as I’m sure you told her. The shame is on those who violated her.
And I agree with you about sleeve tattoos and face piercings. It’s all in the realm of self-harm, just varying degrees of it. Society’s celebration of these self-destructive behaviors legitimizes and promotes self harm.
My friend died of Aids 20+ years ago. She tried really hard to get over everything. Finally she was on the road to recovery, then the truck hit her, big time. But her abuser not only got Aids too, he also got a jail sentence before he died. Justice was done, she just didn't know. Cutting is always a cry for help and should never be "celebrated".
Hey, I just want to request that you not conflate tattoos and piercings worn by *adults* with the grotesque and sick joke that is gender identity ideology.
Tattoos and piercings are self harm? I can’t agree with that. Not as a broad statement.
I’m not one of those people that bores other people with stories re: my body mods. All the same, each one does have intense personal meaning to me. I grew up in a fanatical, unstable, abusive household, and much importance was placed on my appearance. It’s not really important that you understand the details and motivation behind my choices. I assure you that I had my reasons, and yes, it was and is therapeutic.
I guess all I ask from you is to consider that the people who get body mods have their own reasons for what they do. When I was growing up, adults close to me made sure I understood that I was not allowed to refuse their advances, and that they had every right to violate me. My tattoos and piercings are visual reminders that my body is MINE.
Plus, I like the way it looks. A lot of people do. I’m not a masochist, I’m not crazy, and I’m not just trying to get attention. Sure, some idiots might be those things, but it’s not a situation that calls for blanket statements.
Take all that as you will. It’s just a request ❤️
You have your opinion from your experience as I have mine. Both are valid. Lets just leave it at that...
Lol okay. I don’t need you to approve of my mods or anyone else’s. I just turned 51 and I’m not too worried about what people think about my choices (I’m very much an adult, though). There are just too many people in too many cultures with mods and too many reasons for getting them to assume there’s only one thing driving it. I hope you can see that. You might not like it, but we don’t do it for you ❤️ I feel like trying to lump us all together is at least similar to holding gay people responsible for gender nonsense. My actions have nothing to do with kids cutting, or self harm in general.
Cutting to relieve psychological pain is a whole other thing, and shouldn’t be glorified, I agree. I couldn’t believe that such a thing could become “trendy” with kids, but then again, I never EVER would have conceived the horror of our current “gender trend.”
I’m very sorry about your friend. That relationship obviously had a strong impact on you. I know it’s frustrating to watch someone struggling with those kinds of issues.
Honestly? My theory is that they view real life as no different than a video game.
The first thing they do is create a *character*
This process primarily involves choosing an appearance. This will dictate how other people react to you, and how you’re treated in general as you go on your adventure.
When you listen to the long string of adjectives and labels they “identify“ with and expect others to remember, they’re failing to notice that in real life, there’s no visible stats floating above your head or wherever. No one cares about your character sheet. To me, it just screams habitual dissociation and poor real life socialization.
Which brings me to the adventure itself. They are automatically heroes from the beginning, and enemies are very clearly marked. They seek out others just like them to fight in their heroic campaign. By working together, they overwhelm and destroy enemies. No thought or consideration for those you destroy is necessary. If someone is against you for any reason, they deserve destruction. We might as well be NPCs, and I’ve personally experienced the dismissal of my humanity because I’m “On the wrong side of history” (omg how fucking stupid is THAT? Yeah, kiddo. I’m sure your castration cult will be very well regarded 10, 20, and 50 years from now) 🙄😑
It’s immature, solipsistic, and narcissistic, and echoes personality disorders like borderline PD with its black and white thinking, and histrionic PD for… rather obvious reasons. They are naturally overjoyed at the prospect of doing progressive and noble works via trolling, doxxing, intimidating, and destroying anyone who dares have reservations about their culty, superstitious religion. Oh wow… I just realized, they’re on a literal Crusade. A crusade to erase all other beliefs, and force trans ideology on society, particularly on women who don’t buy their nonsense.
Ugh. I know most of them are young, but wow these people are stupid. I asked one of them why they needed queer theory in order to figure themselves out, when the rest of us managed to do it on our own. No answer, naturally.
Omg!! You are correct! The 9 tailed whip for self flagellation!
Transmasochism!
What is wrong with you? 😂 I don’t think they should do it either, but I wouldn’t force someone to have a finger or toe amputated in order to undergo surgery to remove a part they WANT removed. You’re insane. Please keep it to yourself.
I think that was hyperbole - well, at least I hope it was😳
I don't think there's anything 'wrong' with her, she's trying to convey the impact major surgery has on the body. I feel the suggestion that an adolescent boy or girl who wants their breasts removed, their penis inverted and balls cuts off, or half their arm sliced off to create an ugly, functionless appendage hanging between their legs, must first have a finger or toe amputated, emphasises how inappropriate these operations are.
To make it a condition that a digit is amputated before a young person wanting this surgery can go ahead, would be an immoral act. A doctor or hospital sanctioning or doing this shouldn't be allowed to practice. Just like the surgeon in Miami, the ghoulish, sociopath who yeets teets for her millions, shouldn't be allowed to practice. Not just that, she should have her liberty taken away too.
This is my interpretation at least, perhaps it's wrong, only the person who wrote the comment could answer that. The person you called insane, she should keep her thoughts to herself. I don't think she's insane, but I do think you're uncivil and abusive. Take your own advice in future.
These are people looking to cut off their breasts or testicles. If they recoil at losing a finger or toe, I’d say that’s evidence that they have NO idea what they’re requesting. You’d be amazed how little some of these kids understand about the process. One poor girl was on r/detrans (a Subreddit for detransitioners, with over 40,000 members last time I checked) was asking when her breasts would grow back. So much of this is socially reinforced magical thinking and disconnection from reality
How rude!
Oh what freakery is this now!!!
Mental health issues abound.
The tree is fake, just like trans women.
And yet, still not a representation of a man.
Dear God.
There is nothing normal about this.
This isn't from Paperchase is it? Our local Paperchase (UK) is full of rainbow/trans flag trinkets, like an NB Santa. Clearly marketed to the teens and tweens. I was disturbed. Genuinely a few items like this one but I didn't notice any details like these scars...
If it is, I won't be darkening their doorstep ever again
NB Santa? Fill in your fireplace before Christmas, people!!!
OK apparently it was Drag Queen Santa. I barely knew what I was looking at but there was a number of pieces like this. It did seem to be aimed at the young folk... https://www.paperchase.com/products/drag-queen-santa-christmas-tree-decoration
Damn! Sold out!
Yes, I had to laugh!
also this, which is infuriating and just incredibly, profoundly sad in equal proportions https://uploads.ovarit.com/678e4768-087d-5e7b-8df8-bd7230266483.jpg
That is truly horrendous.
That's just evil
I remember when that came out, Christmas 2017. Stays a representative image of 'gender clinician' for me.
On Bari Weiss' 'Common Sense' substack there's a BTL surgeon who's written more than once that he's moving from California to Florida, most of his staff moving too, so that they're not required to do this to young people. THE reason he's given for moving. Good on him, but why a seemingly lone voice?!
Wow! My thoughts have occasionally drifted to the Sidhbh Gallagher types (+ staff) who'll inevitably be driven OUT of Florida, but that's incredible.
So wait, surgeons don't have the right to decline any specific patient or operation type? That's chillimg asf... I guess I alws just assumed that right, up to the threshold of the '64 civil rights act (i.e., that the law would be broken only if the patients in question constituted a Federally protected class, which no age group does).
Does that mean that e.g., a gynecological surgeon who personally holds strong anti-abortion beliefs could be forced to perform abortions?
Somebody who knows current California law will need to step in to clarify, sorry. I just read his posts on a couple of occasions months apart, know that California is benchmark (low-tide mark?) gung-ho on youth gender 'medicine' and has also, incredibly, just made itself a 'sanctuary state' for kids from other states whose parents aren't on board with gender treatments. From a 30 Sept article:
'On Thursday, California governor Gavin Newsom signed legislation that would facilitate child gender-transition tourism from other states.
'The bill, spearheaded by Democratic state senator Scott Wiener, aims to make California a “sanctuary state” for out-of-state children to receive so-called gender-affirming surgery and hormone therapy without the knowledge or consent of their parents.'
The surgeon wasn't super specific, so maybe it was to avoid working where colleagues were removing healthy organs from the gender-groomed, and where the pressure was applied for him and other clinicians not to refuse to do so. Sorry not to be more certain.
Yeah... SMH Weiner is not only a complete nutter, but also a very appropriately named exemplar of the Bro-gressive 'left'
Agree but being precise, not "organs"
Hmm, the uterus, ovaries, penis and testes, which gender docs cut out, are classed as organs? And the definition of what is/isn't classed an organ is apparently disputed: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_organs_of_the_human_body
As for breasts, I've always found 'sex characteristics' an unsatisfying and even inaccurately reductive descriptor. For those of us who've grown a human in our uterus, then grown them onward with our breasts, they seem every bit as much 'organs' as a uterus is, just doing their reproductive job externally. What's the betting that 'breasts' got left off the long list of organs (total: 78!) and reduced to 'sex characteristics' not by women... ?
Should add that I like precision too, so thanks for the point. I've always found this area of description an awkward one to navigate with clarity.
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That is like a still from a David Cronenberg movie.
Gosh. It feels like the surgical desecration of children begins earlier every year.
Brilliant 👏👏👏
Oh good, the queering of Christmas. I wonder what else is on the way, Father Christmas as a non binary, lesbian trans woman in christmassy bondage gear. Huge breast, don't know about a penis, let's not indulge the GC obsession with what's between people's legs. Maybe she'll keep the facial hair, but nicely trimmed so it doesn't conceal the bright red lipstick she's wearing. And nails like that gorgeous, glamorous girl, Eddie Izzard. Ho Ho Ho.
They clearly want everyone to have a Misogynistic Christmas!
wHOre, wHOre, wHOre! 🎅
Ho-mo Ho-mo Ho-mo!
Yesssss! 🤣 That's a Ho-mophobic Christmas!
That's right, those homo-trans-nonbinary-infinite gender phobes don't have a kind bone in their terfy, bigotry ridden bodies.
I've found a brilliant tshirt!!
https://www.teepublic.com/t-shirt/11712460-im-fat-but-identify-as-skinny-im-trans-slender-cos?feed_sku=11712460D1V&feed_country=GB&utm_source=google&utm_medium=shopping&utm_campaign=%5BG%5D+%5BG.EUR%5D+%5BL.ENG%5D+%5BGEN%5D+%5BC.TShirts%5D+%5BPLF%5D&utm_id=notset&utm_content=trans&ar_clx=yes&ar_channel=google&ar_campaign=71700000088695061&ar_adgroup=58700007498395369&ar_ad=PRODUCT_GROUP&ar_strategy=search&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=%5BG%5D+%5BG.GBR%5D+%5BL.ENG%5D+%5BGEN%5D+%5BC.TShirts%5D+%5BSSC%5D&gclid=Cj0KCQiAsoycBhC6ARIsAPPbeLvrvAgX9avv837zigxtTdSFmNyAcQlroKA4blPfbe7l5ZDt3hd-MNUaAvucEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds
I did chuckle.
Sometimes those 'you might be interested in' ads are just plain offensive.
Imagine calling me trans 😂
I mean, to be perfectly fair, the practice of uprooting trees, dragging them into houses, and propping up the literally dead tree for a month or even longer (by the end of which time it poses a positively redoubtable fire hazard—basically it's seven or eight feet of pure kindling by that point) is already pretty damn weird, if not 'queer' in the XXI century sense.
Christmas trees and the rituals surrounding them have alws reminded me of the XIX century American(?) practice of propping up very recently departed family members on household furniture, donning 'Sunday clothes' as a family, and doing whole photo shoots as though the late family member were very much still alive, if just rather listless and not so much living their best life that day... Except actually even weirder than that, because the archetypal evergreen Christmas trees are utterly unlike anything that grows in the Holy Land or anywhere even remotely close to it. 🤷🏾♀️
Bet the Christmas nights must fly by in your happy household 😳
Recognizing the overall weirdness doesn't stop me (or anyone else i've laughed with after talking a good step back) from enjoying anything.
TBH it just adds another distinct layer of laughs and enjoyment to get-togethers that are always fun.
Do you have to... actually respect the origins of something to enjoy it? If so, then I don't think it's me whose household has the over-earnestness problem TBH.
There's also the added problem that Christmas is Jan. 7th for the people in my family to whom Christmas matters the most, because Orthodox.
Fair points well made. 👍
Pine trees are part of the western world's Christmas not because they have anything to do with the land where Jesus was supposed to have been born, but rather because they're associated in northern European tradition with the winter solstice... a pagan holiday that was later absorbed into Christmas. Evergreens (also including mistletoe) represent the "undying sun"-- a reminder that, on the shortest day of the year, during the coldest season, life still persists, and people can look forward to the promise of spring. Celebrating the birth of an immortal figure (who dies only to rise again) on the winter solstice was therefore very much in keeping with its spirit.
Ah, thank you. I was aware of the pagan / winter solstice associations, mostly because they help to explain why Christmas is celebrated in northern midwinter, but didn't connect those with the 🌲
Good explanation
They really will try to tarnish anything. Christmas is for kids. The magic, the decorations, the presents, Father Christmas. So to see a children’s holiday (it is in my eyes) tarnished in this way just angers me.
See. How consistently they tell on themselves. It IS a religious cult. Travesty on a Christmas tree. A mutilated, bearded, obligatory rainbow-flagged, non-sexually-functioning woman gazing in supplication upwards toward a 'Mermaids' heaven for help. (Sorry to burst your 'trans' bubble dearie, but Mermaids soon will be nonexistent.) Can't wait to see the matching be-wigged, lipsticked, chest-implanted man. Or will they be really daring, and fashion a plain old bloke claiming 'womanhood'. One who hasn't done anything to 'transition'? Or a 'non-binary' decoration. Now there's a challenge.
p.s. Unless I've been duped and this is a Moley confection, haha. I don't care. Still outraged.
I also have to do a "Moley double / triple / quadruple" check for images now 😂
Then sometimes I have to go back after I've made my mind up 😂
I was wondering if it was Moley. Poe's Law is certainly in effect
Yes, as Graham keeps saying -- it's impossible to parody.
Sorry to be naive but what's "Moley"?
He's a regular on here (MoleAtTheCounter); does a lot of good Photoshop stuff. Clever parodies, though it's getting hard to tell parody from the truth at this point.
I may have assumed his photo editor of choice (sorry for this literal violence); maybe he uses a different editor such as The GIMP.
The proportions of the torso are very male.
Well this will replace those angels and religious icons we don't believe in anymore. Welcome to new hell. New Zealand shopping center unveiled a gender fluid Santa Claus as its Christmas display. The new version of Kris Kringle, dressed in knickers and fishnet stockings, is modeled after Mary Poppins, carrying the magical British nanny’s umbrella and a carpet bag “full of presents.”
omg.
Fresh hell indeed.
Has there been any pushback?
There was a flurry of tweets from NZ, don't know if he's still standing for children to see.
Noooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Obviously not a fetish and they're definitely not groomers. 😶🌫️
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQJrUTRxFAM&ab_channel=BBCNewsnight
Perhaps you would like to see how BBC interviewed Suzie Green in 2016 as she get Body Dysphoria mixed up with Transitioning and compare with how they questioned Graham in 2020
Also BBC Newsnight's Evan Davies rolling out the red carpet for Susie Green while shushing Transgender Trend's Stephanie Davies-Arai. The worst of it isn't available online, I wonder why.
Oh this is an awful interview. I can hardly bear it! A slug knows more about child development than SG.
Of course a child can be encouraged to believe they are really meant to be the opposite sex. They believe in Santa up to what, 9 or 10? Her son was 4 when he first made this statement!
Just show a child a transgender picture book with a stereotypically "boyish" boy and a stereotypically "girly" girl and a tomboy will resonate so much more with the boy.
Kids are vulnerable, as we've witnessed. Their brain hasn't developed nuanced thinking. Just like they can't understand that a boy can be feminine and still be a boy, and a girl can be masculine and still be a girl (if rigid structures are reinforced at home, as they were for JG).
Same reason DQSH is a bad f*cking idea. Who would encourage a child to believe that a man dressed as a woman is someone safe and to be trusted? World - bad. Drag Queen - good.
So done with her total BS. And Ewan, going "what's your point? I don't know what your point is?" Well, isn't it clear? Kids can be simply be gender non-conforming and liberal homes don't trans their kids. What's wrong with him?
Jack, not Jackie (picture book). What's the message for tomboys here? Imagine you're 5 years old. 5 year olds aren't stupid but they do often follow flawed logic if it's presented to them: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_3dhnGAt7U&ab_channel=Knee2KneeReadWithMe
Remember, it's trans merman, with a space, if you leave out the space you are literally genociding them
They have a hell of lot of confidence, visibility and a tendency towards aggression for a people fearing or maybe experiencing a genocide. What an appalling misuse and abuse of that word.
Nice to see today that the “Our Streets Now” campaign has decided that rather than focussing on preventing street harassment against women and girls that they should also be concerning themselves with ensuring transwomen have access to female only toilets to keep them safe. I can’t even bring myself to comment on their Instagram posts. All the handmaidens think it’s a great idea.
This winds me up so much. Even vigils for women's safety where women wander about with candles, the same women in favour of letting men into female spaces. I mean, WTF!?