Susie 'You Belong In Prison' Green has locked down her Twitter - I saw a screenshot earlier of certain accounts she was allegedly following. They would fit in with this latest scandal.
My heart is pounding watching this. I feel physically sick. These poor wee children. What a terrifying ordeal for them. How could anyone do this? A woman and an adult who is employed to CARE for children. How is it possible? Her colleague(s) looking on and laughing. It really is the stuff of nightmares. These tots will be traumatised by this. I’m seriously in shock.
I hope the parents sue the shit out of them. And I never say that. I had to stop watching after about two seconds. In loco parentis. That’s enough internet for me today.
I think its 3. 2 are visible and then there's the one with the camera, following the others around. Those kids had NO-ONE to protect them. The camera woman says she was filming to expose what's going on but I'm not convinced
She claims that she tried to raise concerns previously but was reprimanded since she had no evidence. She was obviously resentful which is why she posted the evidence to the public rather that provide it to lackadaisical management.
We had a teacher at our town elementary school who liked to knock over desks to scare the children. I only know about this because a friend had a child in the school; she removed him and put him in a different elementary school.
That said, I went to two schools where high school teachers were extremely abusive to students. I had one of them for about a day -- my mother would not tolerate such behavior -- and not only was she a nasty POS, but she had to keep leaving the room for a nicotine fix. The only reason I have found that such behavior is allowed to continue is that I live in a society which admires BULLIES, bullies of every stripe.
Because they're Stonewall Diversity Champions? They've become captured, corrupted to not apply the law equally. Initiating investigative procedures against Mermaids could be cast as 'transphobic', no?
Apparently those responsible were fired on the spot as soon as the headteacher was shown the video but as you say Graham this sort of behaviour is all part of the blurring of the lines between children and adults and just a few years ago would never have happened. These woke idiots are so enthralled by Queer Theory and GI they have convinced themselves they can abuse the very youngest of children with impunity if it fits with their new religion.
I beg to differ; abusive teachers and daycare workers have been around a long time. I had a male fifth-grade teacher who hated little girls and would not let us use the toilet. My sister had a male high school teacher who was so horrible she got colitis. The abusers are just getting more extreme plus often even children have phones that can record their behavior.
Jesus H Christ, this is psychological abuse. They should NEVER be allowed to work with children or other vulnerable people ever again. I hope the police were involved.
This was very disturbing to watch. I am very glad to read that the nursery manager fired all 4 of them as soon as she was made aware of what happened. But I don’t think we can blame everything like this on Queer Theory, as much as I admire Barry’s work and take on this. I well remember having sadistic, cruel and emotionally cold teachers in the 80s and apparently it was impossible to get rid of them no matter how many complaints were made. Not much has changed. Same applies for Police, nurses, doctors, mental health workers and prison staff. Some social workers too. These are all professions that attract people who desire power over those more vulnerable than themselves and they always have and will. Until Value Based Interviewing (VBI) and psychometrics are implemented across the board for all professions that deal with vulnerable children or adults in any capacity these types of people will continue to slip through the net and carry out abuse like this or worse.
Yes, I think part of the attraction to jobs like those that include working with children or vulnerable people is that their victims can't speak out and tell someone what's going on.
Thinking of Savile, volunteering at hospital where patients would often be sedated. 😐
Exactly this. 👆 The Cult of The Experts arrived well before the Queer Theorists. However would their unscientific groupthink have survived and thrived like this if it’d had to prove itself in the streets first? 🤣 Bravo!
Excellent! When I mentioned sadistic teachers above, that was in the 1960s, in a high-quality school district.
And kudos for including other jobs. When I was in a hospital bed and unable to move, I had a GIGANTIC nurse who was really mean; she frightened the crap out of me, she was so huge and nasty. My partner reported it to the staff and was told, "Sometimes people's personalities just don't mesh." The condition I was in I didn't have much of a personality!
I’m so sorry to hear that! Yes, unfortunately caring professions can attract extremely uncaring people! I was born via c-section after a 24 hour labour (this was in the 70’s) and when my mum came to after the general anaesthetic she started screaming for her baby because she didn’t know if I had survived. I was in another room being cuddled by my dad while my mum recovered. The nurse said “stop screaming you stupid woman, your baby is fine”. While things might generally have improved since then, people like that and worse are still in professions that we depend upon when we are at our most vulnerable. I should add that that experience affected my mum’s bonding with me due to the trauma around my birth and because she wasn’t able to hold me for a while after birth. It affected our relationship and people need to realise the long term effects of their behaviour when they are in a position of power.
And thank goodness for that. Your poor mum, what an awful experience! Similarly I am an only child too but because my dad couldn’t face going through it again rather than my mum. She wanted to have several kids but her pelvic opening is too small to have a natural birth so it would have had to be another c-section and I think he worried she wouldn’t make it a second time. So he got the snip and that was that.
I mean this was a particularly disturbing update both features considered. Watching that video (not all of it) and thinking how those terrified little kids will also have to do school shooter drills basically all the way from pre school through college and may even face a real one (with events from Thailand also fresh in the mind.) Not a recipe for mental wellbeing.
And that Destroyer front cover was something else. Hard to believe it is legal. Perhaps I'm naive but had to read the article just to believe it was real. I think the true picture of the Mermaids-Gender Idealogy madness is finally coming into focus. It's astounding that some people still can't/won't see it. For which we know the mainstream media is to blame. Genevieve Gluck deserves a medal or 100.
This is where I often part ways with other radical feminists who sometimes ignore just how horrific other women can be, especially to children. Not at all downplaying what some men do to harm women and children, but never forget that any adult can be abusive. It's not just wokeists doing the abusing either. A feminist movement that takes into account the significance of any and all abuse is a movement with integrity. No integrity, no real movement, just words. These are my opinions, anyone is allowed to see things differently of course.
I don’t know just who ignores “just how horrific other women can be, especially to children.” Patriarchy is a sadistic system originally instituted by and for the benefit of men, but it takes women as well as men to keep it going. My own maternal grandmother was a narcissist and destroyed the socioeconomic opportunities for several of her grandchildren (the ones who wouldn’t comply with her domination), but she herself had suffered sadistic physical abuse (and likely incestuous sexual abuse, as well) from her father, who probably experienced something similar from his. For me, it’s kind of like a chicken or the egg problem. In my experience, particularly radical and lesbian feminists focus their emotional energy/support upon women, who experience the worst of patriarchy without the male privilege. Patriarchy harms everyone, and in this milieu, most men manage to at least not become active abusers and some women are so damaged that they become perpetrators of abuse towards other women, and even children, as this video illustrates. Queer Theorists are a cult, not any kind of rational scientists. Those with the most power and privilege have the most ability to change things, like Glinner is doing, but it takes really solid character, incredible amounts of emotional fortitude, and loads of determination. I’m so grateful honorable men like Glinner and Barry are doing what they’re doing, as women are so easily silenced by patriarchal control mechanisms, and men don’t listen to women generally. What the religious and modern materialists both have in common is their fallacious belief in male superiority, and patriarchy is the result. It’s so irrational and anti-life that I went looking for possible physical reasons for it, found actual Science that supports that explanation, and have left the chemical paradigm behind. I do hope, though, that I’ve furthered your understanding of “just how horrific other women can be, especially to children” from the perspective of feminism and patriarchy. Liberal feminists have reminded me of this one, not radical or lesbian feminists!
Maybe I should have said "downplay," not "ignore." But yes, I've had interactions with women who call themselves radical feminists who downplay the horrible things women are capable of. I knew radical feminists years ago who thought women could do no wrong, more or less, or it was all men's or the patriarchy's fault. Almost none of them ever gave a thought to children's welfare. I didn't accept that thinking, still don't. I adopted a radical feminist outlook at age 17 (40 years ago) and have never looked back. I know what patriarchy is, its history, that it's very real, and affects everyone's life and am not underestimating any of its harms for anyone. You don't need to further my understanding of feminism or patriarchy, it's far advanced already, way more than you realize obviously. But thanks (maybe) for thinking you had something to teach me. Sorry you must have misunderstood my post.
I too experienced this within second-wave radical feminism, and I think a lot of it was possibly naivete, and some of it was possibly deliberate. (Thinking here of the lesbians who wanted all radical feminists to accept BDSM as normal sexual expression, and if you didn't then you were anti-lesbian.)
I totally agree with you. Bev Jo, a radical feminist lesbian, swears that lesbians picked up this horror from straight women, but I don't agree with her. I think it was far more likely to have been picked up from gay men; I remember many lesbians who were far cozier with gay men than with other women who weren't lesbian. A radical feminist newspaper in Cambridge, Massachusetts, was nearly destroyed by this issue. Isn't it surprising that women into BDSM DEMANDED their proclivities be accepted [sarcasm].
Sheila Jeffreys mentioned that in the Seventies, many gay men were ditching the “fairy” stereotype for aggressive masculinity instead. I can see that a contingent of male and female homosexuals may have (mistakenly) embraced it thinking it to somehow be empowering, at least by breaking with some stereotypes. I think it’s a dum-dum’s drama, and narcissism has increased significantly in the population over recent decades, which could help explain its proliferation.
Since I tend to put the stress on "radical" in my own radical feminism, another question might be Where did the gay men pick it up from? And no, this is no attempt to excuse men for anything. Anyone who thinks I'd make excuses for adults' bad behavior is full of it.
I know what you're talking about. And my question would be why they decided that was a good choice for a sexual lifestyle, no one made them do that. I actually think BDSM and similar behavior may be a reflection of the unresolved experiences of child abuse, and some women can be as prone to it as men. I've long fully understood that a socially healthy, egalitarian society, far unlike what we currently live in, would do a lot to prevent abusive behavior in the first place.
I've always thought that the gay/BDSM connection is basically the legacy of the closet-- people trying to find a way to embrace their sexual orientation when, thanks to society's stigmatization of same-sex attraction, it was tangled up from the beginning with a deep sense of shame, disgust, and fear. So viewing it through the lens of kink seems downright familiar. Comfortable, even. Whereas the opposite-- viewing one's sexuality as perfectly fine, healthy, and normal-- often remains elusive. At least emotionally, regardless of what one may think in rational terms.
I hadn't thought of it that way, but it makes sense to me too. In a healthier society, that truly served the needs of people, in relation to natural sexuality, it would of course include love between men and men, and between women and women. Compulsory heterosexuality is definitely a feature of patriarchy. Homosexuality is revolutionary against patriarchy, just like women's rights and children's rights are (as in not viewing women or children as chattel). Part of compulsory heterosexuality is that it serves patriarchy's need for compulsory procreation in order to create plenty of cannon fodder for armies. Well, may sound far fetched, but that's how I see it anyway.
Liberal social workers facilitated my rape in childhood, and it’s now my understanding that they see human females as public property, which differs from conservatives which see us as private property. They weren’t agents of the government, either, but privately employed “experts.” Since you have been a radical feminist for 50 years, seems then it isn’t lack of familiarity with the issue that produced your comment, but a specific resentment. While I don’t ignore, but am rather intimately familiar with the harm women cause other women and *even* children, I choose not to harp on that fact, as men enjoy male privilege. Your resentment then is towards some specific radical feminist(s) and perhaps is justified. Personality disorders are real, and with narcissism, we’re still talking mostly men because the overwhelming majority of narcissists are men, but not all of them. I guess to me, it’s like saying, “Nobody’s perfect.” It’s so obviously true that I wonder why people say that, ever? Of course women cause harm to other women and children sometimes, but if patriarchy and the atrocious child-rearing practices it promotes doesn’t explain that to your satisfaction, well then, it can just sound like some more womanhating, yet another opportunity to berate women. Women are humans, too. Thanks for reminding others, as stupid stereotypes like the Saintly Mother are apparently still in operation among some radical feminists, according to your report.
Good grief, you continue to misrepresent me and what I wrote. Back off, will you? Get a grip. You know next to nothing about me. As far as I can see from your comments to me, you're the resentful one. Discussing this with you, if that's what you call deliberately misunderstanding a stranger, is tedious and unproductive, and not why I commented in the first place.
Don't bother with the "Ma'am." You're a narcissistic bully. Can't allow an opinion that differs from your personal ideology so you hurl abuse. I'm entitled to comment whether you like what I say or not. The only person who can tell me to buzz off is the moderator of this forum, and that isn't you. Grow up.
Women are not angels and it's amazing that what many women experience -- every imaginable type of abuse -- doesn't make us worse than we are. This radical feminist believes that women, unless they are mentally incompetent, have to be held accountable for their actions.
I think males are more prone to dissociation than females following significant childhood insult, females being more obviously biologically connected to Nature than males. Yeah, everyone should be held accountable for their actions, of course. I’d never excuse the manipulations of narcissists, for instance, as they are adults and need to be held accountable as such, since their activities are so destructive to others. Knowing the history of a narcissist can make their behavior understandable, but never acceptable, whatever their sex or childhood experience.
I am shaking with horror and fury at what I just saw. Those children are now traumatised for life!! They weren't just scared, they were terrified! In a place where they should be safe, where their parents believe them to be safe, they were terrorised by the people they should be able to trust while other adults looked on laughing. How will those children ever be able to go back to school again?
I hate these kind of people with a passion so strong it scares me. Bloody good job I'm not a witch or they'd have 7 hells fall on their heads. Arrrhhhh
The owners seemed to play all innocent, saying "those responsible" had been sacked; but why were the building's cameras not working? They must have known they had something to hide.
As far as I'm concerned, the "owners," "the managers," whatever, had responsibility for knowing what was going on. I worked in a typeshop where our bosses seemed to know what was going on at night (shops worked 24-hour days) when they weren't there. If that was possible, then the higher-ups bear ultimate responsibility.
Zero tolerance, introduced in the States and imported to the UK in the last few years has turned the clock back on the child centred approaches developed during the 80s. We are back in the Victorian times. Nasty to see it. And huge damage is being done. Makes my blood boil to see such sheer ignorance on display.
Susie 'You Belong In Prison' Green has locked down her Twitter - I saw a screenshot earlier of certain accounts she was allegedly following. They would fit in with this latest scandal.
My heart is pounding watching this. I feel physically sick. These poor wee children. What a terrifying ordeal for them. How could anyone do this? A woman and an adult who is employed to CARE for children. How is it possible? Her colleague(s) looking on and laughing. It really is the stuff of nightmares. These tots will be traumatised by this. I’m seriously in shock.
I hope the parents sue the shit out of them. And I never say that. I had to stop watching after about two seconds. In loco parentis. That’s enough internet for me today.
I lasted longer but I didn't watch even half. Some people are scum. And it's two women this time???
I think its 3. 2 are visible and then there's the one with the camera, following the others around. Those kids had NO-ONE to protect them. The camera woman says she was filming to expose what's going on but I'm not convinced
She claims that she tried to raise concerns previously but was reprimanded since she had no evidence. She was obviously resentful which is why she posted the evidence to the public rather that provide it to lackadaisical management.
I'm prepared to believe that's true but I'm skeptical non the less.
Yes. The only thing that is clear is the terror in those toddler's eyes.
We had a teacher at our town elementary school who liked to knock over desks to scare the children. I only know about this because a friend had a child in the school; she removed him and put him in a different elementary school.
That said, I went to two schools where high school teachers were extremely abusive to students. I had one of them for about a day -- my mother would not tolerate such behavior -- and not only was she a nasty POS, but she had to keep leaving the room for a nicotine fix. The only reason I have found that such behavior is allowed to continue is that I live in a society which admires BULLIES, bullies of every stripe.
Another classroom scandal: 'Parents blocked from checking their child’s trans sex education lessons'
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/parents-blocked-from-checking-their-child-e2-80-99s-trans-sex-education-lessons/ar-AA12I9u4
Infuriating
Why are the police not seizing files from Mermaids?
Because they're Stonewall Diversity Champions? They've become captured, corrupted to not apply the law equally. Initiating investigative procedures against Mermaids could be cast as 'transphobic', no?
Apparently those responsible were fired on the spot as soon as the headteacher was shown the video but as you say Graham this sort of behaviour is all part of the blurring of the lines between children and adults and just a few years ago would never have happened. These woke idiots are so enthralled by Queer Theory and GI they have convinced themselves they can abuse the very youngest of children with impunity if it fits with their new religion.
I beg to differ; abusive teachers and daycare workers have been around a long time. I had a male fifth-grade teacher who hated little girls and would not let us use the toilet. My sister had a male high school teacher who was so horrible she got colitis. The abusers are just getting more extreme plus often even children have phones that can record their behavior.
Makes you wonder what they were doing without the video camera running.
Exactly this!
The police need to be into this. 😡😡😡
Help stop horrors for Irish children.
https://thecountess.ie/consultation-on-updated-junior-cycle-sphe-curriculum/
Jesus H Christ, this is psychological abuse. They should NEVER be allowed to work with children or other vulnerable people ever again. I hope the police were involved.
This was very disturbing to watch. I am very glad to read that the nursery manager fired all 4 of them as soon as she was made aware of what happened. But I don’t think we can blame everything like this on Queer Theory, as much as I admire Barry’s work and take on this. I well remember having sadistic, cruel and emotionally cold teachers in the 80s and apparently it was impossible to get rid of them no matter how many complaints were made. Not much has changed. Same applies for Police, nurses, doctors, mental health workers and prison staff. Some social workers too. These are all professions that attract people who desire power over those more vulnerable than themselves and they always have and will. Until Value Based Interviewing (VBI) and psychometrics are implemented across the board for all professions that deal with vulnerable children or adults in any capacity these types of people will continue to slip through the net and carry out abuse like this or worse.
I agree, I don't see the connection with queer theory.
Both use kids for their own ends, and the kids feelings don't get counted, but that's similar outcomes not similar starting points.
You're right, it's not clear how Queer Theory played any part in that video.
Yes, I think part of the attraction to jobs like those that include working with children or vulnerable people is that their victims can't speak out and tell someone what's going on.
Thinking of Savile, volunteering at hospital where patients would often be sedated. 😐
Exactly this. 👆 The Cult of The Experts arrived well before the Queer Theorists. However would their unscientific groupthink have survived and thrived like this if it’d had to prove itself in the streets first? 🤣 Bravo!
Excellent! When I mentioned sadistic teachers above, that was in the 1960s, in a high-quality school district.
And kudos for including other jobs. When I was in a hospital bed and unable to move, I had a GIGANTIC nurse who was really mean; she frightened the crap out of me, she was so huge and nasty. My partner reported it to the staff and was told, "Sometimes people's personalities just don't mesh." The condition I was in I didn't have much of a personality!
I’m so sorry to hear that! Yes, unfortunately caring professions can attract extremely uncaring people! I was born via c-section after a 24 hour labour (this was in the 70’s) and when my mum came to after the general anaesthetic she started screaming for her baby because she didn’t know if I had survived. I was in another room being cuddled by my dad while my mum recovered. The nurse said “stop screaming you stupid woman, your baby is fine”. While things might generally have improved since then, people like that and worse are still in professions that we depend upon when we are at our most vulnerable. I should add that that experience affected my mum’s bonding with me due to the trauma around my birth and because she wasn’t able to hold me for a while after birth. It affected our relationship and people need to realise the long term effects of their behaviour when they are in a position of power.
My mother didn't even ask if I was alive. Just before she was anaesthetised she was told she was killing her baby.
Christ! That’s horrendous!
yep. But she had the joy of finding out I was alive. The experience was bad enough to ensure she never went through it again. I am only child.
And thank goodness for that. Your poor mum, what an awful experience! Similarly I am an only child too but because my dad couldn’t face going through it again rather than my mum. She wanted to have several kids but her pelvic opening is too small to have a natural birth so it would have had to be another c-section and I think he worried she wouldn’t make it a second time. So he got the snip and that was that.
I mean this was a particularly disturbing update both features considered. Watching that video (not all of it) and thinking how those terrified little kids will also have to do school shooter drills basically all the way from pre school through college and may even face a real one (with events from Thailand also fresh in the mind.) Not a recipe for mental wellbeing.
And that Destroyer front cover was something else. Hard to believe it is legal. Perhaps I'm naive but had to read the article just to believe it was real. I think the true picture of the Mermaids-Gender Idealogy madness is finally coming into focus. It's astounding that some people still can't/won't see it. For which we know the mainstream media is to blame. Genevieve Gluck deserves a medal or 100.
Good lord, what the hell is going on? This goes way beyond what we could have imagined.
Graham, pardon me if I'm behind on all the news lately, but have you seen this?
https://youtu.be/9EYdzTPaguU
Whoa... That clip, some disturbing information right from the medical horses mouth.
Wow - makes me sick that this surgery is talked about as how much money it brings in
This is where I often part ways with other radical feminists who sometimes ignore just how horrific other women can be, especially to children. Not at all downplaying what some men do to harm women and children, but never forget that any adult can be abusive. It's not just wokeists doing the abusing either. A feminist movement that takes into account the significance of any and all abuse is a movement with integrity. No integrity, no real movement, just words. These are my opinions, anyone is allowed to see things differently of course.
I don’t know just who ignores “just how horrific other women can be, especially to children.” Patriarchy is a sadistic system originally instituted by and for the benefit of men, but it takes women as well as men to keep it going. My own maternal grandmother was a narcissist and destroyed the socioeconomic opportunities for several of her grandchildren (the ones who wouldn’t comply with her domination), but she herself had suffered sadistic physical abuse (and likely incestuous sexual abuse, as well) from her father, who probably experienced something similar from his. For me, it’s kind of like a chicken or the egg problem. In my experience, particularly radical and lesbian feminists focus their emotional energy/support upon women, who experience the worst of patriarchy without the male privilege. Patriarchy harms everyone, and in this milieu, most men manage to at least not become active abusers and some women are so damaged that they become perpetrators of abuse towards other women, and even children, as this video illustrates. Queer Theorists are a cult, not any kind of rational scientists. Those with the most power and privilege have the most ability to change things, like Glinner is doing, but it takes really solid character, incredible amounts of emotional fortitude, and loads of determination. I’m so grateful honorable men like Glinner and Barry are doing what they’re doing, as women are so easily silenced by patriarchal control mechanisms, and men don’t listen to women generally. What the religious and modern materialists both have in common is their fallacious belief in male superiority, and patriarchy is the result. It’s so irrational and anti-life that I went looking for possible physical reasons for it, found actual Science that supports that explanation, and have left the chemical paradigm behind. I do hope, though, that I’ve furthered your understanding of “just how horrific other women can be, especially to children” from the perspective of feminism and patriarchy. Liberal feminists have reminded me of this one, not radical or lesbian feminists!
Maybe I should have said "downplay," not "ignore." But yes, I've had interactions with women who call themselves radical feminists who downplay the horrible things women are capable of. I knew radical feminists years ago who thought women could do no wrong, more or less, or it was all men's or the patriarchy's fault. Almost none of them ever gave a thought to children's welfare. I didn't accept that thinking, still don't. I adopted a radical feminist outlook at age 17 (40 years ago) and have never looked back. I know what patriarchy is, its history, that it's very real, and affects everyone's life and am not underestimating any of its harms for anyone. You don't need to further my understanding of feminism or patriarchy, it's far advanced already, way more than you realize obviously. But thanks (maybe) for thinking you had something to teach me. Sorry you must have misunderstood my post.
I too experienced this within second-wave radical feminism, and I think a lot of it was possibly naivete, and some of it was possibly deliberate. (Thinking here of the lesbians who wanted all radical feminists to accept BDSM as normal sexual expression, and if you didn't then you were anti-lesbian.)
I’ve no idea who TF could embrace BDSM and still dare to call themself a feminist. Sadomasochism is patriarchy in a nutshell.
I totally agree with you. Bev Jo, a radical feminist lesbian, swears that lesbians picked up this horror from straight women, but I don't agree with her. I think it was far more likely to have been picked up from gay men; I remember many lesbians who were far cozier with gay men than with other women who weren't lesbian. A radical feminist newspaper in Cambridge, Massachusetts, was nearly destroyed by this issue. Isn't it surprising that women into BDSM DEMANDED their proclivities be accepted [sarcasm].
Sheila Jeffreys mentioned that in the Seventies, many gay men were ditching the “fairy” stereotype for aggressive masculinity instead. I can see that a contingent of male and female homosexuals may have (mistakenly) embraced it thinking it to somehow be empowering, at least by breaking with some stereotypes. I think it’s a dum-dum’s drama, and narcissism has increased significantly in the population over recent decades, which could help explain its proliferation.
Since I tend to put the stress on "radical" in my own radical feminism, another question might be Where did the gay men pick it up from? And no, this is no attempt to excuse men for anything. Anyone who thinks I'd make excuses for adults' bad behavior is full of it.
I know what you're talking about. And my question would be why they decided that was a good choice for a sexual lifestyle, no one made them do that. I actually think BDSM and similar behavior may be a reflection of the unresolved experiences of child abuse, and some women can be as prone to it as men. I've long fully understood that a socially healthy, egalitarian society, far unlike what we currently live in, would do a lot to prevent abusive behavior in the first place.
I've always thought that the gay/BDSM connection is basically the legacy of the closet-- people trying to find a way to embrace their sexual orientation when, thanks to society's stigmatization of same-sex attraction, it was tangled up from the beginning with a deep sense of shame, disgust, and fear. So viewing it through the lens of kink seems downright familiar. Comfortable, even. Whereas the opposite-- viewing one's sexuality as perfectly fine, healthy, and normal-- often remains elusive. At least emotionally, regardless of what one may think in rational terms.
I hadn't thought of it that way, but it makes sense to me too. In a healthier society, that truly served the needs of people, in relation to natural sexuality, it would of course include love between men and men, and between women and women. Compulsory heterosexuality is definitely a feature of patriarchy. Homosexuality is revolutionary against patriarchy, just like women's rights and children's rights are (as in not viewing women or children as chattel). Part of compulsory heterosexuality is that it serves patriarchy's need for compulsory procreation in order to create plenty of cannon fodder for armies. Well, may sound far fetched, but that's how I see it anyway.
Liberal social workers facilitated my rape in childhood, and it’s now my understanding that they see human females as public property, which differs from conservatives which see us as private property. They weren’t agents of the government, either, but privately employed “experts.” Since you have been a radical feminist for 50 years, seems then it isn’t lack of familiarity with the issue that produced your comment, but a specific resentment. While I don’t ignore, but am rather intimately familiar with the harm women cause other women and *even* children, I choose not to harp on that fact, as men enjoy male privilege. Your resentment then is towards some specific radical feminist(s) and perhaps is justified. Personality disorders are real, and with narcissism, we’re still talking mostly men because the overwhelming majority of narcissists are men, but not all of them. I guess to me, it’s like saying, “Nobody’s perfect.” It’s so obviously true that I wonder why people say that, ever? Of course women cause harm to other women and children sometimes, but if patriarchy and the atrocious child-rearing practices it promotes doesn’t explain that to your satisfaction, well then, it can just sound like some more womanhating, yet another opportunity to berate women. Women are humans, too. Thanks for reminding others, as stupid stereotypes like the Saintly Mother are apparently still in operation among some radical feminists, according to your report.
Good grief, you continue to misrepresent me and what I wrote. Back off, will you? Get a grip. You know next to nothing about me. As far as I can see from your comments to me, you're the resentful one. Discussing this with you, if that's what you call deliberately misunderstanding a stranger, is tedious and unproductive, and not why I commented in the first place.
Ma’am, you’re mental. I’ve no idea why your comment was even made. It’s painfully apparent that you don’t like some radical feminists. Buzz off.
Don't bother with the "Ma'am." You're a narcissistic bully. Can't allow an opinion that differs from your personal ideology so you hurl abuse. I'm entitled to comment whether you like what I say or not. The only person who can tell me to buzz off is the moderator of this forum, and that isn't you. Grow up.
Women are not angels and it's amazing that what many women experience -- every imaginable type of abuse -- doesn't make us worse than we are. This radical feminist believes that women, unless they are mentally incompetent, have to be held accountable for their actions.
I think males are more prone to dissociation than females following significant childhood insult, females being more obviously biologically connected to Nature than males. Yeah, everyone should be held accountable for their actions, of course. I’d never excuse the manipulations of narcissists, for instance, as they are adults and need to be held accountable as such, since their activities are so destructive to others. Knowing the history of a narcissist can make their behavior understandable, but never acceptable, whatever their sex or childhood experience.
I am shaking with horror and fury at what I just saw. Those children are now traumatised for life!! They weren't just scared, they were terrified! In a place where they should be safe, where their parents believe them to be safe, they were terrorised by the people they should be able to trust while other adults looked on laughing. How will those children ever be able to go back to school again?
I hate these kind of people with a passion so strong it scares me. Bloody good job I'm not a witch or they'd have 7 hells fall on their heads. Arrrhhhh
The owners seemed to play all innocent, saying "those responsible" had been sacked; but why were the building's cameras not working? They must have known they had something to hide.
Good point. The person filming had complained before but nothing was done without proof. They should have sorted those cameras then.
As far as I'm concerned, the "owners," "the managers," whatever, had responsibility for knowing what was going on. I worked in a typeshop where our bosses seemed to know what was going on at night (shops worked 24-hour days) when they weren't there. If that was possible, then the higher-ups bear ultimate responsibility.
You're right, of course, and firing those two people was just damage limitation. They ought to be closed down.
Zero tolerance, introduced in the States and imported to the UK in the last few years has turned the clock back on the child centred approaches developed during the 80s. We are back in the Victorian times. Nasty to see it. And huge damage is being done. Makes my blood boil to see such sheer ignorance on display.