Thanks a lot for sharing this, and thanks a lot to Mandy, too. I had no idea things were getting that bad on that front, too - although it should hardly be a surprise.
Not only is this a huge problem in itself, uncovering this also helps a lot of things fall into place to explain the explosion of teens "identifying as trans".
Just to add, reminds me of that olde pre-woke BBC series 'Ways of Seeing' which explained that advertising works by taking away a person's self love by offering an exchange - self as someone to be envied - for the price of a product. Think it was Peter Berger who wrote it {I got my copy in a charity shop] .. .... still available series on youtube last time I looked.
Thanks for highlighting this. I remember watching Yankee Pankee on TV years ago and enjoying it but felt something was wrong? Then Eurotrash, definitely knew when certain things were wrong.
The 'objectification' of girls and women is wrong on so many levels. Super stimulation is a fact, I avoid these images now, I don't want to 'buy in' to that form of pleasure/addiction. The people that engage in the process of objectification both consumers and exploiters will have big problems in their futures.
Desperately thankful to my now deceased birth mother for keeping this GenX female’s tender young eyes and mind away from commercial television before puberty. With all the direct marketing to kids these days, they don’t stand a chance if their parents don’t understand what that medium is used for. My mind is my own. Hasn’t made me rich, but it has kept me healthy and sane. Thanks for reminding us that it is our (and our parents’) choice to be marks for financial predators!
Yes .... cult of sexuality based on self image and exploitation gone rampant- this is part of Boris' downfall aka 'Bottom Pinchergate'. EDIT - and yes I know it's not funny.
Whether het or homosexual, we need a concept of responsible humane ethics to aspire to, understanding human limitations and what used to be called 'the devil within' [EDIT - no I don't believe in actual devils but clearly we need to fight against harmful addictions/urges as this article states] ...
Friendship, respect and intimacy based on self and other acceptance with all our limitations and imperfections - not easy to fake or do.
Meantime, Tik Tok idols promoted/assisted by greedy grifters n global destructionists. Sermon over - thanks Glinner. Sorry to be preachy but what to do?
Funnily enough I was only today thinking along parallel lines and wondering if it would be enough to create the background for a deeper social commentry. I think in fact this is where the usa and its particularly pervasive and aggressive brand of commercialism always was heading from way back. Most of all I'm most shocked at how little I'm shocked by it. It's gross and sad and disenchanting, but not especially surprising. Everything has become a commodity in the land of the free. Not least the human body. And yet - in this article at least the interest remains focussed around just one type of body.
These photos are grotesque and I wonder if these women have thought about the long-term (even ten years!) effects of what they are doing to their bodies. Perhaps it doesn't matter because they think they won't even be here in ten years, let alone twenty or more.
I suspect they will think that they will live forever.
Just have not understood that living "forever" or even a normal lifespan in that state is not a healthy thing.
There was the man who insisted he was a cat and had surgeries and tattoos to resemble a cat. His mental health was poor - he took his own life. Reasons why are unclear but I suspect that what he had done to his body probably contributed to his depression.
Society, doctors, lawyers, education etc are all aiding and abetting self harm.
There was a few years back a case where a UK family sued Instagram because of the pages that were encouraging suicide.
This - extreme body modification; transgenderism (which involved extreme body modification); "Thinsperation" (encouraging extreme body modification/behaviour to make oneself as thin as possible); actual self harm sites etc etc, need to be banned and any social media site that allows them to appear should be fined billions. Really hit them where it hurts.
I think you make some excellent points. What I would add is that bodily disassociation seems to be at work here. There's a long religious history in the West supporting that, so how can we be surprised at what people are willing to do to their healthy bodies with no thought for their future well-being?
Again, Avner was a 'US Navy veteran-turned-programmer'. What is happening within military circles, other than the obvious? The links to trauma can't be clearer.
I think I have seen this loop in action, but it is so foreign to me! It reminds me of the young woman who said she stopped doing drugs when she realized she was committing passive-aggressive suicide. Pleasure/disgust/pleasure indeed.
While legal bods and MPs are having 'retweets' explained to them months are passing and still nothing is being done to address any of this. It must be over a decade or so since anyone in tech revealed they wouldn't let their own kids have phones and severely limited their time online. We have that generation having kids of their own now.
I don't enjoy being 'that person' but if you have an ear to hear, know this: The condition of humanity will worsen, just as it does every time when evil saturates the hearts and minds of humanity. :( Those who trust in Christ Jesus for their eternal salvation, will be saved, when this evil world is destroyed. God bless you all. x
Disturbing and terribly sad
Thanks a lot for sharing this, and thanks a lot to Mandy, too. I had no idea things were getting that bad on that front, too - although it should hardly be a surprise.
Not only is this a huge problem in itself, uncovering this also helps a lot of things fall into place to explain the explosion of teens "identifying as trans".
If that’s what Scylla looks like, it’s no wonder so many girls are steering towards Charybdis.
Just to add, reminds me of that olde pre-woke BBC series 'Ways of Seeing' which explained that advertising works by taking away a person's self love by offering an exchange - self as someone to be envied - for the price of a product. Think it was Peter Berger who wrote it {I got my copy in a charity shop] .. .... still available series on youtube last time I looked.
https://youtu.be/0pDE4VX_9Kk Yes it’s all still up on the tubes. I shall enjoy that. Thanks.
Episode 2 gets into images of women - you dont need to do the age-verification for this one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qud_422WKZY ... Episode 4 talks about advertising/'glamour' https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XpoYEbzyS4k ... be interested in your thoughts on how this relates to Mandy Stadtmiller and the 'gender' question.
hehe - gonna give it a rewatch - ta v much EE
John Berger
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Berger
yup that's him!
Commercialism...no morals and mental health issues!
Thanks for highlighting this. I remember watching Yankee Pankee on TV years ago and enjoying it but felt something was wrong? Then Eurotrash, definitely knew when certain things were wrong.
The 'objectification' of girls and women is wrong on so many levels. Super stimulation is a fact, I avoid these images now, I don't want to 'buy in' to that form of pleasure/addiction. The people that engage in the process of objectification both consumers and exploiters will have big problems in their futures.
Desperately thankful to my now deceased birth mother for keeping this GenX female’s tender young eyes and mind away from commercial television before puberty. With all the direct marketing to kids these days, they don’t stand a chance if their parents don’t understand what that medium is used for. My mind is my own. Hasn’t made me rich, but it has kept me healthy and sane. Thanks for reminding us that it is our (and our parents’) choice to be marks for financial predators!
Yes .... cult of sexuality based on self image and exploitation gone rampant- this is part of Boris' downfall aka 'Bottom Pinchergate'. EDIT - and yes I know it's not funny.
Whether het or homosexual, we need a concept of responsible humane ethics to aspire to, understanding human limitations and what used to be called 'the devil within' [EDIT - no I don't believe in actual devils but clearly we need to fight against harmful addictions/urges as this article states] ...
Friendship, respect and intimacy based on self and other acceptance with all our limitations and imperfections - not easy to fake or do.
Meantime, Tik Tok idols promoted/assisted by greedy grifters n global destructionists. Sermon over - thanks Glinner. Sorry to be preachy but what to do?
Urrrrgh!
Funnily enough I was only today thinking along parallel lines and wondering if it would be enough to create the background for a deeper social commentry. I think in fact this is where the usa and its particularly pervasive and aggressive brand of commercialism always was heading from way back. Most of all I'm most shocked at how little I'm shocked by it. It's gross and sad and disenchanting, but not especially surprising. Everything has become a commodity in the land of the free. Not least the human body. And yet - in this article at least the interest remains focussed around just one type of body.
These photos are grotesque and I wonder if these women have thought about the long-term (even ten years!) effects of what they are doing to their bodies. Perhaps it doesn't matter because they think they won't even be here in ten years, let alone twenty or more.
I suspect they will think that they will live forever.
Just have not understood that living "forever" or even a normal lifespan in that state is not a healthy thing.
There was the man who insisted he was a cat and had surgeries and tattoos to resemble a cat. His mental health was poor - he took his own life. Reasons why are unclear but I suspect that what he had done to his body probably contributed to his depression.
Society, doctors, lawyers, education etc are all aiding and abetting self harm.
There was a few years back a case where a UK family sued Instagram because of the pages that were encouraging suicide.
This - extreme body modification; transgenderism (which involved extreme body modification); "Thinsperation" (encouraging extreme body modification/behaviour to make oneself as thin as possible); actual self harm sites etc etc, need to be banned and any social media site that allows them to appear should be fined billions. Really hit them where it hurts.
I think you make some excellent points. What I would add is that bodily disassociation seems to be at work here. There's a long religious history in the West supporting that, so how can we be surprised at what people are willing to do to their healthy bodies with no thought for their future well-being?
It's the modern mortification of the flesh. And this flagellation is being promoted to children and anyone vulnerable needing support.
Again, Avner was a 'US Navy veteran-turned-programmer'. What is happening within military circles, other than the obvious? The links to trauma can't be clearer.
Just like with Any addiction these women are only thinking of the moment and the next rush.
I’m sure they dread thinking about the future and will keep
Doing things to stay in the pleasure/disgust/pleasure loop.
I think I have seen this loop in action, but it is so foreign to me! It reminds me of the young woman who said she stopped doing drugs when she realized she was committing passive-aggressive suicide. Pleasure/disgust/pleasure indeed.
This is terrifying to me and far too close to home for comfort.
Thank you for highlighting the dangers of these ads, they are dangerously subtle and clever.
While legal bods and MPs are having 'retweets' explained to them months are passing and still nothing is being done to address any of this. It must be over a decade or so since anyone in tech revealed they wouldn't let their own kids have phones and severely limited their time online. We have that generation having kids of their own now.
I don't enjoy being 'that person' but if you have an ear to hear, know this: The condition of humanity will worsen, just as it does every time when evil saturates the hearts and minds of humanity. :( Those who trust in Christ Jesus for their eternal salvation, will be saved, when this evil world is destroyed. God bless you all. x
Please pass the barf bags. A few of them at least.
Just like advertising was regulated to keep cigarettes and alchogol away from children the same thing needs to be done for this stuff.
Euuuurrrrrrrgh!