I see Penny Dormant appears to have back tracked on her previous ‘belief’ that Trans women are women. Nothing like the need to get votes to make a politician see reality, even a politician as stupid as she obviously is.
Is Penny Dormant’s story on women and Trans coming apart?
Extract from Spectator online just now (sorry if a bit long):
‘And now, despite releasing a midnight Twitter thread to try to rebut criticisms that Mordaunt is 'woke', Penny is facing flak from the Tory right. Mordaunt has claimed that it was she who 'changed maternity legislation that was drafted in gender neutral language to use female terms.' The legislation in question was about the right of government minsters to take maternity leave. But commentators like Tim Shipman of the Sunday Times have rejected Mordaunt's account, reporting that she actually wanted the term 'pregnant person' in the legislation but was overruled by colleagues such as Liz Truss and Nadine Dorries.
And now Braverman herself has entered the debate, releasing a lengthy statement setting out her own account of the 2021 row over the Ministerial and other Maternity Allowances Act. While she declines to name Mordaunt, she says that 'to have my female body referred to as being that of a "pregnant person" was distressing and unnecessary' adding that it was 'the Cabinet Office who were for responsible for the bill.' At the time of course Mordaunt was serving in that department as Paymaster General.
Braverman then goes in studs-up on the ministry, declaring that owing to its 'intransigence... what should have been a sign of progress became a bitterly contested bill' adding the legislation was 'hijacked for trans activists' and labelling it 'an indulgence of extremism.' She says only the support of members of the House of Lords meant the term referred to a 'woman'. Braverman ends with a veiled barb: 'It is my hope that just as we should call pregnant women what they are, we will all of us accurately recall what we did and said in office.'
Penny appears to think she can rewrite the things she and other people did and said. A bit like the viler trans lobby attempt all the time with everything. And she used Twitter to try swing it back her way. Has she never met another Tory woman? And I'm not sure how many people realise what a small group of a small group in 'the Cabinet Office' get to decide policy. We are very reliant on the House of Lords as a check and balance on those mucking around in the rest of gov.
How dare she use her constituents to back up her lies. She is holed beneath the water line and doesn't appear to have realised how much.
ThoughSheBeLittle Spot on! When Don Cummings left I remember him making the point that policies like Trans (seen as ‘modern and progressive’ ) were being pushed onto Boris’ desk by a small group supposedly close in thinking to Carrie and Dylan (or however they spell the little dog’s name). Boris is inherently lazy and can’t be bothered mastering detail. Added to that the fact that personally he is quite socially liberal and you can see how close the UK came to getting Irish-style gender self ID put through.
Just reading Mordaunt’s latest views on women and Trans women in The Times on page 8 today (11th July),
It’s clear now she is the Trojan horse of the Trans/LGBTIQ+++ cult. Let’s hope her campaign hits the buffers soon and she fades away like a bad fart in a pub.
Suella Braverman seems to be one of the only leadership contenders who stands up for conservative values. Steve Baker who I rate, speaks highly of her too.
I cannot believe how this is unfolding - SB has said some pretty flaky things in her time and not had a firm grip on her brief but even she seems to be pretty clear on this, and I wholeheartedly support her on that. It was Suella taking time off at the same time all that legislation was going through, so no wonder she remembers it very well.
Anyone remember it was Andrea Leadsom that scuppered her chances of the Tory leadership when she hit on the 'being a mother' tactic and somehow portraying Theresa May as less of one (a woman) as she wasn't. That was such a low blow and vicious.
Yet the BBC newsroom give every appearance (did I miss something?) of wilfully hiding the candidacies of both Braverman (no mention at all of her in either last night's candidate list or tonight's) and Badenoch, whose name only arose at the end of tonight's report in a few quoted words from Gove.
Are BBC news staff trying to hide and/or taint by association these two women candidates, consciously or otherwise? Others seem to be massively favoured in air time, giving the already better-known a critically important head start.
Having read Times and Spectator pieces on both of these, I was looking forward to seeing them presented as leadership candidates on the news, and learning more. Crickets.
Well it is the Bolshevik Broadcasting Corporation (BBC)! Just listen to BBC Radio 4’s ‘Today’ any morning. Being conservatives, Braverman and Badenoch are also not ‘real’ ethnic minority women in the BBC’s book since real ethnic minorities belong in the Labour Party.
Now Musk has highlighted how twitterati are many thousands less than claimed, maybe he or someone can do some investigating into the truth of BBC watching/listening figures .... particarly when and why we turn off!
Graham, do you know of any shop selling Owen Jones gnomes? I only have a small garden but even a half scale size would fit in the flower bed beside my bins.
The Guardian are so strapped for cash maybe we should write to them asking if they would consider flogging Knick Knacks featuring Owen Jones’ image. The garden gnome and the bog brush would be a great start. The de luxe version of each could feature a 15 second recording of the little maneen speaking to the nation.
And I would wager that dog poo bags featuring his little face would be very popular too.
Just seen coverage. They march every day for their rights so I genuinely had no idea as it's so oversaturated with their bogus claims I block it out. Saturday 9th July. They out-moley moley.
Nice touch that one holding a placard covered in blood. That would be women's blood, no 'trans' identifying men are being murdered at the rate we are. What grandstanding foul people.
Heh, heh! Nice one. I'll have sprinkles on my Neopolitan on top of the "trans rights are human rights" waffle they seem to come out with please. Hold the BS.
Waffles and sprinkles and ice cream... What was it we were taking about? Once you mentioned Neopolitan I found it hard to concentrate in this hot weather...
I see Penny Dormant appears to have back tracked on her previous ‘belief’ that Trans women are women. Nothing like the need to get votes to make a politician see reality, even a politician as stupid as she obviously is.
Vote no. 1 Kemi !!!!
Is Penny Dormant’s story on women and Trans coming apart?
Extract from Spectator online just now (sorry if a bit long):
‘And now, despite releasing a midnight Twitter thread to try to rebut criticisms that Mordaunt is 'woke', Penny is facing flak from the Tory right. Mordaunt has claimed that it was she who 'changed maternity legislation that was drafted in gender neutral language to use female terms.' The legislation in question was about the right of government minsters to take maternity leave. But commentators like Tim Shipman of the Sunday Times have rejected Mordaunt's account, reporting that she actually wanted the term 'pregnant person' in the legislation but was overruled by colleagues such as Liz Truss and Nadine Dorries.
And now Braverman herself has entered the debate, releasing a lengthy statement setting out her own account of the 2021 row over the Ministerial and other Maternity Allowances Act. While she declines to name Mordaunt, she says that 'to have my female body referred to as being that of a "pregnant person" was distressing and unnecessary' adding that it was 'the Cabinet Office who were for responsible for the bill.' At the time of course Mordaunt was serving in that department as Paymaster General.
Braverman then goes in studs-up on the ministry, declaring that owing to its 'intransigence... what should have been a sign of progress became a bitterly contested bill' adding the legislation was 'hijacked for trans activists' and labelling it 'an indulgence of extremism.' She says only the support of members of the House of Lords meant the term referred to a 'woman'. Braverman ends with a veiled barb: 'It is my hope that just as we should call pregnant women what they are, we will all of us accurately recall what we did and said in office.'
Penny appears to think she can rewrite the things she and other people did and said. A bit like the viler trans lobby attempt all the time with everything. And she used Twitter to try swing it back her way. Has she never met another Tory woman? And I'm not sure how many people realise what a small group of a small group in 'the Cabinet Office' get to decide policy. We are very reliant on the House of Lords as a check and balance on those mucking around in the rest of gov.
How dare she use her constituents to back up her lies. She is holed beneath the water line and doesn't appear to have realised how much.
ThoughSheBeLittle Spot on! When Don Cummings left I remember him making the point that policies like Trans (seen as ‘modern and progressive’ ) were being pushed onto Boris’ desk by a small group supposedly close in thinking to Carrie and Dylan (or however they spell the little dog’s name). Boris is inherently lazy and can’t be bothered mastering detail. Added to that the fact that personally he is quite socially liberal and you can see how close the UK came to getting Irish-style gender self ID put through.
Just reading Mordaunt’s latest views on women and Trans women in The Times on page 8 today (11th July),
It’s clear now she is the Trojan horse of the Trans/LGBTIQ+++ cult. Let’s hope her campaign hits the buffers soon and she fades away like a bad fart in a pub.
Suella Braverman seems to be one of the only leadership contenders who stands up for conservative values. Steve Baker who I rate, speaks highly of her too.
I cannot believe how this is unfolding - SB has said some pretty flaky things in her time and not had a firm grip on her brief but even she seems to be pretty clear on this, and I wholeheartedly support her on that. It was Suella taking time off at the same time all that legislation was going through, so no wonder she remembers it very well.
Anyone remember it was Andrea Leadsom that scuppered her chances of the Tory leadership when she hit on the 'being a mother' tactic and somehow portraying Theresa May as less of one (a woman) as she wasn't. That was such a low blow and vicious.
She is very impressive lately - I have seen some TV interviews with her and she is well able to fight her corner.
I see Michael Gove is backing Kemi Badenoch. She is definitely someone to watch for the future.
Yet the BBC newsroom give every appearance (did I miss something?) of wilfully hiding the candidacies of both Braverman (no mention at all of her in either last night's candidate list or tonight's) and Badenoch, whose name only arose at the end of tonight's report in a few quoted words from Gove.
Are BBC news staff trying to hide and/or taint by association these two women candidates, consciously or otherwise? Others seem to be massively favoured in air time, giving the already better-known a critically important head start.
Having read Times and Spectator pieces on both of these, I was looking forward to seeing them presented as leadership candidates on the news, and learning more. Crickets.
Well it is the Bolshevik Broadcasting Corporation (BBC)! Just listen to BBC Radio 4’s ‘Today’ any morning. Being conservatives, Braverman and Badenoch are also not ‘real’ ethnic minority women in the BBC’s book since real ethnic minorities belong in the Labour Party.
Now Musk has highlighted how twitterati are many thousands less than claimed, maybe he or someone can do some investigating into the truth of BBC watching/listening figures .... particarly when and why we turn off!
Trans rights are gelato rights!
Best stored in a cold damp basement, they melt on hot days.
they look true to me!
Yes I suppose there’s no “of course” about it
Graham, do you know of any shop selling Owen Jones gnomes? I only have a small garden but even a half scale size would fit in the flower bed beside my bins.
I'd pay handsomely for a little OJ bog brush...or maybe a set where you could swap your little tyrant out depending on mood.
The Guardian are so strapped for cash maybe we should write to them asking if they would consider flogging Knick Knacks featuring Owen Jones’ image. The garden gnome and the bog brush would be a great start. The de luxe version of each could feature a 15 second recording of the little maneen speaking to the nation.
And I would wager that dog poo bags featuring his little face would be very popular too.
A nice little boot scraper, very apt for the OJ collection.
OJ loo roll?
Sorry BlackieKat but personally I draw the line at letting even his image get that close 🤮
Every home should have one!
On the mark as usual. Thanks Mole and Graham.
Cheers!
What date was this? Of the fifty billionty marches in June it's hard to keep up. Wasn't he on an anti-commercialisation of pride month march?
Just seen coverage. They march every day for their rights so I genuinely had no idea as it's so oversaturated with their bogus claims I block it out. Saturday 9th July. They out-moley moley.
Nice touch that one holding a placard covered in blood. That would be women's blood, no 'trans' identifying men are being murdered at the rate we are. What grandstanding foul people.
yep .
Heh, heh! Nice one. I'll have sprinkles on my Neopolitan on top of the "trans rights are human rights" waffle they seem to come out with please. Hold the BS.
Waffles and sprinkles and ice cream... What was it we were taking about? Once you mentioned Neopolitan I found it hard to concentrate in this hot weather...
:D :D :D
Brill!
Amazing, Mole...as always.
A joint effort, I just moved a few pixels around....
LOVE IT!
I can bond on Neopolitan Ice Cream!
Brilliant
Genius, as per...
A joint effort of course, but thanks!
(All I did was move some pixels around a bit...)
Aye, but you're a clever and funny wee pixel mover!
😬😁
Loved the Beano and Dandy and I’d buy a whole comic with this stuff in. Would be brilliant. Thinking what you could call it - TWAM maybe?
Brilliant thanks both!
Cheers!
Perfect. Thank you.
Faaantastic! Especially the last one haha omg on the nail!
Cheers! Mr G's words... my pixel-moving!
Ah! Excellent!