Get a load of this. I was asking that very fucking question when Herzog and Singal decided to defame me as a bigot. Asking that question was what my Her stunt was all about. Herzog admitted she never read the Substack they both decided to misrepresent. Fuck you, Katie Herzog, ‘the only one’ my arse. Some of us have been asking the question for three years while you and Jesse have been going along with calling people ‘cis’.
I understand why you are outraged, Graham, but I imagine there is going to be a lot more of this changing of horses mid race. It shows you and all the other hard working, brave allies are winning. Success has many fathers etc.
I guess. I'll lay off but goddamn these people are such hypocrites. constantly complaining about being dishonestly misrepresented after they did the exact same thing to me.
It’s difficult to witness after so many of you have actually suffered for standing up in the wind. We see you Graham and believe me, you are deeply appreciated.
Nah don't lay off Graham. You're perfectly entitled to highlight their hypocrisy and it's useful too. Because these people have no integrity, it's interesting to see how they position themselves in line with what they think will get them most engagement and possibly a positive legacy. And this is a good indication that the momentum is with the those of us who respect women and reality.
Noooo, it’s unhealthy to keep strong feelings inside. Please let it ALL out. You have thrown rocks into the water and we are all witnessing the ripples effecting the lost & indoctrinated. It is wonderful! Don’t stop!!!
Yes, indeed. It is utterly galling and despicable. They deserve to have their hypocrisy pointed out to them but it is still the case that once they start using your language, you have won. If we want more people to come over to our side, we may have to contain our rage, unjust though it feels.
Magdalen has been gone two years now and she was taking so much flack trying to raise the alarm about the damage this ideology was doing to lesbian communities and facilities. I'm straight and I know this - strange how it passed others by...
Somehow I don't think think you will be the only person wondering out loud how any lesbian journalist worth her salt could have failed to notice that many other people, including other lesbian journalists, have been shouting about this phenomenon for some time.
As for asking, "What is this all about? What is going on here?".
I don't know, could it be something to do with meteorites, or fluoride in the water, or the revival in popularity of recordings on vinyl? It's an absolute mystery!
Breathtaking hypocrisy. But I do think there’ll be more of this, as discussed on one or two Mumsnet threads about how this will all end. People will hand-wring and say “how could anyone possibly have known about x, y or z”. (Whatever the latest Wi Spa sequel happens to be). There’ll be shameless reverse ferreting. The Guardian deleting bits of the Butler interview “in the light of recent developments” is just the tip of the iceberg. BUT I do worry that people like you who have been pointing all this out, and particularly women who’ve done so, will continue to be smeared as fascists even though nobody can actually explain why. It’s shit.
That is actually a hilarious hot take, even for Pink News. Obviously The Guardian was trying to protect Butler from being seen to be defending the indefensible, but Penis News says it was an act of transphobic censorship. 🤪
Oh gosh! I’ve just read the comments and feel ill. I will not be listening to it. I can see there’s an episode with Meghan Murphy the week before this one so might dip into that.
On the free episode, Murphy explained why she won’t used “preferred pronouns”. They said they’d go into it more in the Patreon, and I’m dying to know what Murphy said. Singal and Herzog treat pronouns as preferred pronouns as sacrosanct.
It sounds horrific. They are typically privileged and clueless and they’ll never suffer the consequences of their words. Abuse of children is the worst crime. And it is pretty much a male crime. It happens in the developed world, and males from the developed world also abuse the poorest and voiceless in the undeveloped world. I listened to the episode with Megan Murphy before this (after forwarding through their inane privileged drivel) but will give them no more clicks.
Narcissism...they love to steal other people's research and anger. They literally deny anyone else had the idea, other than them, for they are The Almighty Megalomaniacs, always. NO credit ever given to the True Warriors like you, Graham.
Or maybe there's 'breast removal'. Or 'getting your healthy breasts cut off'. 'Top surgery' and 'bottom surgery' are grotesquely dissembling and avoidantly vague, with intent. They are cool-making, indoctrinatory cult words.
Absolutely. Whenever my brother talked about “bottom surgery” to me, I’d say things like “OMG! Castration??” and “Do you REALLY want some stranger to cut off your penis and make you a eunich? REALLY?? WHY?” - Totally reframing the cult speak. He eventually began responding “Um, no I don’t! I feel like I am supposed to”. SO important to NOT use the cult lingo!! 👍👍
Steady Graham! Read this as a win albeit tinged with something rather unpalatable. People will change their minds, sometimes openly and sometimes, as here, disingenuously, dishonestly, but at least they're changing. And thanks to you & those you support. Someone who never changes their mind never changes anything. I write as one who was sitting back loving Pose & Ru Paul's Drag Race until recently...recently being seeing the shit doled out to JK (for starters), then all the rest....
People thought Churchill was nuts and a war monger in the 30s when he didn’t like that jolly efficient chap Adolf. Just bide your time. As Churchill said too, "Poor Neville will come badly out of history. I know, I will write that history". This sub stack can be the source for your written history of this madness. And maybe a tragi-comedy: Yes First Minister.
I suppose that technically you can read it that she means she's the only lesbian journalist asking the question. She may even try to claim this in the future, but it's an excuse so thin it's transparent.
I asked and she said she meant she was the only one asking within her circle of friends but it is clear she intended to frame herself as a lone voice of sanity. Really irks me.
I am a member of numerous FB groups and have been trying to raise awareness to people, ordinary people like me I might add who just didn't really know, then the GRA stuff was told to me by s friend who put me onto you Graham and it is your fight, you walk tall, you are the one attempting to throw a light on this shit especially with the danger looming so close in Scotland by Nicoliar Stalin, one of my concerns is Alba jumping on your limelight not because Salmond wants the fight because he ultimately wants to oust Nicoliar his little prodigy and to take his he feels Crown back. He will drop this cause once he has used it to his benefit, no mention prev on his website about women or grender issues. So I would be careful on that point, I have canvassed my sites and emailed MSPs and MPs and the only ones standing up are Conservatives, they are the only party replying, tho my Ip was blocked by Nicoliar Stalin so she hates my guts. I don't care, this cause needs to go mainstream and trust me that tide is turning, she was coming for Scottish Kids loads of peeps new little about thid cause because of what we were being fed by the media, when my friend Amanda Benson sent me stuff to watch and read I signed up to your site the next day, so my posts on my sites I use on FB is building momentum, I am asking Males and Females to support this cause, it's the future of Innocent Children at risk, I don't care if it brings 1 person to the fight, that's okay because like Amanda with me, that one person might start sharing and then call to arms all that use their groups. I'm really trying so thank you from the bottom of my heart for standing tall against these disgusting perverted heathens in Scotland that support Nicoliar Stalin and her GRA amendments.... Ty x
I understand why you are outraged, Graham, but I imagine there is going to be a lot more of this changing of horses mid race. It shows you and all the other hard working, brave allies are winning. Success has many fathers etc.
I guess. I'll lay off but goddamn these people are such hypocrites. constantly complaining about being dishonestly misrepresented after they did the exact same thing to me.
It’s difficult to witness after so many of you have actually suffered for standing up in the wind. We see you Graham and believe me, you are deeply appreciated.
Nah don't lay off Graham. You're perfectly entitled to highlight their hypocrisy and it's useful too. Because these people have no integrity, it's interesting to see how they position themselves in line with what they think will get them most engagement and possibly a positive legacy. And this is a good indication that the momentum is with the those of us who respect women and reality.
Noooo, it’s unhealthy to keep strong feelings inside. Please let it ALL out. You have thrown rocks into the water and we are all witnessing the ripples effecting the lost & indoctrinated. It is wonderful! Don’t stop!!!
Keep charging. We need to protect the young, confused children.
Yes, indeed. It is utterly galling and despicable. They deserve to have their hypocrisy pointed out to them but it is still the case that once they start using your language, you have won. If we want more people to come over to our side, we may have to contain our rage, unjust though it feels.
Lay off I'd like to lay my hands on preferably my fist...
Good point. It will be annoying to see people capitalizing on it later in the game but it’s progress none-the-less.
Magdalen has been gone two years now and she was taking so much flack trying to raise the alarm about the damage this ideology was doing to lesbian communities and facilities. I'm straight and I know this - strange how it passed others by...
Somehow I don't think think you will be the only person wondering out loud how any lesbian journalist worth her salt could have failed to notice that many other people, including other lesbian journalists, have been shouting about this phenomenon for some time.
As for asking, "What is this all about? What is going on here?".
I don't know, could it be something to do with meteorites, or fluoride in the water, or the revival in popularity of recordings on vinyl? It's an absolute mystery!
Breathtaking hypocrisy. But I do think there’ll be more of this, as discussed on one or two Mumsnet threads about how this will all end. People will hand-wring and say “how could anyone possibly have known about x, y or z”. (Whatever the latest Wi Spa sequel happens to be). There’ll be shameless reverse ferreting. The Guardian deleting bits of the Butler interview “in the light of recent developments” is just the tip of the iceberg. BUT I do worry that people like you who have been pointing all this out, and particularly women who’ve done so, will continue to be smeared as fascists even though nobody can actually explain why. It’s shit.
The rag, pink news, didn't approve of the deletion, did they - let those twats tear at each other https://www.pinknews.co.uk/2021/09/08/judith-butler-guardian-interview-terf-trans/
That is actually a hilarious hot take, even for Pink News. Obviously The Guardian was trying to protect Butler from being seen to be defending the indefensible, but Penis News says it was an act of transphobic censorship. 🤪
Ooooft!!!
We all know the truth Graham. THEY know the truth too. It must make you shout at the screen though, regularly.
May they never live it down.
Proves how much of a fraud they are.. swaying toward popular opinion whatever it is, no true morals.
Honestly that’s how every American commentator operates, and with their Patreon raking in $32k a month they must have found their sweet spot.
Oh god it’s enough to make you bite your own bum with frustration!
Reminds me, must start yoga.
There’s an Italian gesture denoting frustration where you mime biting your own finger.
Oh that’s what that means!? Always wondered. 👍🏻
No: bite your own bum is just what I say.
Haha, let’s hope it catches on! 😊
Not sure if you’d seen this, but apparently on a recent episode of their podcast Herzog went in to bat for paedophiles. There’s a discussion of it here: https://ovarit.com/o/GenderCritical/41809/katie-herzog-simping-for-p-dos
There is no depth too deep to plummet to chasing fame and fortune for people like here. She makes Iago look like a good guy.
Oh gosh! I’ve just read the comments and feel ill. I will not be listening to it. I can see there’s an episode with Meghan Murphy the week before this one so might dip into that.
On the free episode, Murphy explained why she won’t used “preferred pronouns”. They said they’d go into it more in the Patreon, and I’m dying to know what Murphy said. Singal and Herzog treat pronouns as preferred pronouns as sacrosanct.
Wow. Only read the discussion, but that’s enough for me 😣
It sounds horrific. They are typically privileged and clueless and they’ll never suffer the consequences of their words. Abuse of children is the worst crime. And it is pretty much a male crime. It happens in the developed world, and males from the developed world also abuse the poorest and voiceless in the undeveloped world. I listened to the episode with Megan Murphy before this (after forwarding through their inane privileged drivel) but will give them no more clicks.
Narcissism...they love to steal other people's research and anger. They literally deny anyone else had the idea, other than them, for they are The Almighty Megalomaniacs, always. NO credit ever given to the True Warriors like you, Graham.
If Hertzog has really woken up why continue use of the phrase "top surgery". Double masectomy. Say it!
Or maybe there's 'breast removal'. Or 'getting your healthy breasts cut off'. 'Top surgery' and 'bottom surgery' are grotesquely dissembling and avoidantly vague, with intent. They are cool-making, indoctrinatory cult words.
Absolutely. Whenever my brother talked about “bottom surgery” to me, I’d say things like “OMG! Castration??” and “Do you REALLY want some stranger to cut off your penis and make you a eunich? REALLY?? WHY?” - Totally reframing the cult speak. He eventually began responding “Um, no I don’t! I feel like I am supposed to”. SO important to NOT use the cult lingo!! 👍👍
Steady Graham! Read this as a win albeit tinged with something rather unpalatable. People will change their minds, sometimes openly and sometimes, as here, disingenuously, dishonestly, but at least they're changing. And thanks to you & those you support. Someone who never changes their mind never changes anything. I write as one who was sitting back loving Pose & Ru Paul's Drag Race until recently...recently being seeing the shit doled out to JK (for starters), then all the rest....
People thought Churchill was nuts and a war monger in the 30s when he didn’t like that jolly efficient chap Adolf. Just bide your time. As Churchill said too, "Poor Neville will come badly out of history. I know, I will write that history". This sub stack can be the source for your written history of this madness. And maybe a tragi-comedy: Yes First Minister.
I suppose that technically you can read it that she means she's the only lesbian journalist asking the question. She may even try to claim this in the future, but it's an excuse so thin it's transparent.
I asked and she said she meant she was the only one asking within her circle of friends but it is clear she intended to frame herself as a lone voice of sanity. Really irks me.
I am a member of numerous FB groups and have been trying to raise awareness to people, ordinary people like me I might add who just didn't really know, then the GRA stuff was told to me by s friend who put me onto you Graham and it is your fight, you walk tall, you are the one attempting to throw a light on this shit especially with the danger looming so close in Scotland by Nicoliar Stalin, one of my concerns is Alba jumping on your limelight not because Salmond wants the fight because he ultimately wants to oust Nicoliar his little prodigy and to take his he feels Crown back. He will drop this cause once he has used it to his benefit, no mention prev on his website about women or grender issues. So I would be careful on that point, I have canvassed my sites and emailed MSPs and MPs and the only ones standing up are Conservatives, they are the only party replying, tho my Ip was blocked by Nicoliar Stalin so she hates my guts. I don't care, this cause needs to go mainstream and trust me that tide is turning, she was coming for Scottish Kids loads of peeps new little about thid cause because of what we were being fed by the media, when my friend Amanda Benson sent me stuff to watch and read I signed up to your site the next day, so my posts on my sites I use on FB is building momentum, I am asking Males and Females to support this cause, it's the future of Innocent Children at risk, I don't care if it brings 1 person to the fight, that's okay because like Amanda with me, that one person might start sharing and then call to arms all that use their groups. I'm really trying so thank you from the bottom of my heart for standing tall against these disgusting perverted heathens in Scotland that support Nicoliar Stalin and her GRA amendments.... Ty x