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Ottoline Dahling's avatar

I spent time at Askham, the rooms are often 6 bed rooms, no privacy... shocking to put a male in there. Plus it has a Mother and baby unit....

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Rebekah Wershbale's avatar

It's unfathomable. It's hard to convey just how disruptive this is to those women's lives

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Rebekah Wershbale's avatar

Would you be up for talking about your experiences there? We need all the voices from inside we can get

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Chris Baumgarten's avatar

Heck, if I were to spend time in prison I would not want to be housed with women - even though most of them do not pose any threat to me as opposed to the other way round. Being in such conditions with other men is horrible enough, but having women thrown into the general prison population would violate my feeling of what's left of my privacy. I imagine it is a thousandfold this the other way round, and that's not even counting legitimate concerns about the safety of the women in female estates upon whom men are thrust without ever asking them.

I think that conjugal visits are a great thing and that in general more efforts should be taken to have male prisoners stay in touch with women if the overall situation allows and all. Just housing a few women in a male prison estate would be desastrous, though - for many reasons. It is much, much more so the other way round. It eludes me why people refuse to see that. How can any sane person think that putting men in women's prisons is a good idea?

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Nicky Thompson's avatar

So again, today, and for what seems like every day that line to 'rage against' fills my mind and body. The feeling that we, women, are locked in some sort of observation room with all these crazy opinions and ideologies being forced upon us. I want to wake up and find that somehow we have been rescued from some parallel, dystopian universe and it was all a nightmare created to erase womankind but we are now safe. No one hears us or is prepared to fight and protect/support us, women and children..I feel disempowered and invisible! It's a frightening world. These women are being brutalised. Shame on everyone who has the power to stop this but fails!! Thank you Rebekah 💪🏻

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Clothes Moth's avatar

Thank you for posting this - reality of the impact of this ideology is the most vulnerable people have had their rights given away by the virtue signalling privileged class. Everyone who has supported this ridiculous policy should be ashamed of themselves.

So angry 😡

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Bill Sanderson's avatar

A witness account is SO valuable, and probably the most effective way to un-block those male ears to the terrible injustice that is being perpetuated by self-ID males getting access to women's prisons. Thanks Rebekah.

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BlackieKat's avatar

How anyone can think it's ok is beyond me, but this is from the people that also think it's ok for men to be admitted to rape crisis centres. Fight on Rebekah. Good on you for being the voice of the voiceless.

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Susan Doherty's avatar

Hard to believe that Western "progressive " governments are introducing what amounts to rape culture into our societies and nobody in positions of power seems to care about it.Where is their humanity ,compassion etc ? This ,along with the paedophile culture that they're also allowing ,is so evil and abhorrent to any civilised ,rational and caring person that it's breathtaking. Shame on them ALL.!!

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Susan Siens's avatar

Humanity and compassion are SO yesterday. [sarcasm]

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KayQ's avatar

I wrote to my MSP about men in women’s prisons yesterday. She’s SNP and I don’t expect a reply but I will keep on doing it because these ARE the most marginalised people in society. Thanks to Rebekah and others like her for giving these women a voice.

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Ottoline Dahling's avatar

Spent time at Askham, shocking to put a male in there, rooms can be 6 beds, zero privacy. Plus it has a mother and baby unit...

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Nicky Thompson's avatar

So again, today, and for what seems like every day that line to 'rage against' fills my mind and body. The feeling that we, women, are locked in some sort of observation room with all these crazy opinions and ideologies being forced upon us. I want to wake up and find that somehow we have been rescued from some parallel, dystopian universe and it was all a nightmare created to erase womankind but we are now safe. No one hears us or is prepared to fight and protect/support us, women and children..I feel disempowered and invisible! It's a frightening world. These women are being brutalised. Shame on everyone who has the power to stop this but fails!! Thank you Rebekah 💪🏻

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Lynne Chellingworth's avatar

I had a FB spat yesterday with three handmaidens. When I tried to get them to think about TIMs in the female prison estate, it was the usual ‘be kind’, ‘too dangerous for TW in male prisons’ and told me I was an awful person to think that these poor ‘women’ shouldn’t be housed there.

I gave up, wishing I could be more articulate. I’m obsessed with the mess we’re in and wish I could make women see what’s at stake.

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Niobe's avatar

The only answer is ‘ why is it so dangerous for the MTF in prison? The vast majority have not been chemically or surgically altered, so if they want to escape unwanted attention, all they have to do is put on the prison coveralls and stop shaving. I suppose you might regard that as part of the punishment for the crime which got them inside - especially as a surprising number seem to be in for sexual offences against women and children. Oh, and murder. ( Levi belfield had a go at being ‘trans and I think the Sohan chap is fairly convinced he’s a woman now)

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Ottoline Dahling's avatar

I spent time at Askham, the rooms are often 6 bed rooms, no privacy... shocking to put a male in there.

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