My God, what a satisfactory sentence: "Try as they might, the BBC can't hide the fact that the subjects of their new documentary are deeply disturbed ... "
Let them continue to tell the Story of this deeply dangerous ideology -- you know that ideology -- the one that magnetizes disturbed personalities. People have to know it's not all about 'love', 'authenticity', 'kindness', 'social justice', 'stunning' and 'brave' 'explorers' of the new 'gender' horizon, etc. etc. In fact, it's the complete opposite of everything that is Good. It's all about hatred, phoniness, cruelty, anti-social injustice, cowardly re-inforcers of gender stereotype, etc. etc. We are in an existential crisis of mass delusion, mass capitulation, and mass ignorance. These true crime stories may serve to wake up the public.
I hope you’re right about waking people up but I’m not so sure. Too many just don’t want to know. There’s a definite ‘end of days ‘ feel about the west at the moment.
As for the BBC, what a disgrace. Brilliant work as ever by ripe4nutmeg.
So true. Most people appear to be resolute in their denial. When I relate any of the facts reported on this blog I am met with: that’s just not happening in our schools, it’s propaganda, it’s made up, you need to get out more, don’t be ridiculous, you’re being unkind to a persecuted community, you need to stop reading rubbish on the Daily Mail website. I’ve been laughed at, scorned, told that I’m obsessed, that my “obsession” is unhealthy (my obsession!) and told I need to get some help. People either don’t want to know or are afraid to agree. Remember that song. Manic Street Preachers about fascism. “If you tolerate this, then your children will be next”. We are already there on this issue. Our children are being targeted now and these brainwashed and dangerous fools need sectioning and not provided with a propaganda platform by the captured idiots at the BBC.
I couldn’t agree more. That mirrors my experience exactly. It’s already difficult to broach the subject and it has so many layers, where do you begin? And then to be met with indifference or hostility is so disheartening. But it’s too important to give up on. That’s why I love chatting on these groups. It really helps to talk to like minded people and know that I’m not going round the bend. So thank you everyone on here.
My kids, although they thoroughly agree with me, still call me 'obsessed'. Guess I am. But this is the most dangerous, all-encompassing ideology -- top-down in origin -- so really truly scary. Tremendous power and influence behind the scenes. As I've said before, we need the "Birthing Parent" of all inquiries. Nothing less will do.
I have played that on repeat at times just to try to hold onto some rational, sane, reachable, hopeful sense of reality! Thank you for the reminder :-)
My family too. I've learned to stay quiet these days, but when a dear friend told me that a work colleague of her daughter was trans and 'she's so lovely', I kept my mouth as shut as I possibly could. Fast forward a few months, and 'she' was found in the ladies work toilets in a pool of blood, having 'cut herself'. He took time off work after he came out of hospital, and my friend's daughter had to cover for him, no extra wages, of course...He was promoted over her, when she'd been tipped to get the promotion....He comes back to work and lo and behold, he does it again. This time, he's been sectioned. She's yet again doing his work and hers, no extra wages. This will be stretched out for months now, I'd imagine, until he can be sacked, whereupon, I presume, he may well sue his employers. Sigh.... The odd thing was my friend didn't have the courage to say 'You were right, nutty as fruitcakes, I'm sorry I didn't listen'. Double sigh
I know what you mean. But I'm still clinging to the hope that the public, when they finally see what's going on, will rise up. If they watch it, that is. And probably, many will take a pass. But it might reach exactly who it needs to reach.
We have to hope otherwise we’d give up and then what kind of future would our children have. We must keep fighting and speaking out. And yes, articles like this definitely help.
Don't worry guys. The worm IS turning. The fight back is becoming louder and more frequent. As a result others are finding their courage and speaking about it openly to each other. It's a snowball effect, with the first snowballs pushed by our wonderful Graham et al. I just hope it happens sooner rather than later.
my experience of seeing this play out in school is that people will demand rights for their kids based on biology. No one is prepared to let their little girl share changing rooms with boys regardless of how they label themselves. Everyone’s…. ‘yeah trans, thats cool…’ until the f-ing penny drops. No one wants their little girl to miss out on the team to a boy, or have their privacy destroyed. F that.
Identity politics is making its way through people’s consciousness like a late night kebab covered in red hot chilly sauce makes its way through one’s digestive system. Hard work. and painful, but necessary. What felt like a good idea at the time has consequences. Expel the poison.
It's clinical and forensic isn't it? Just like JL, by breaking down these instances point by point and it's comprehensive and therefore devastating. Nowhere to hide here folx!
Exactly , not a thing they can do , only time my telly is on is if me and little petal are having a movie and Maltesers night , other chocolates are available 😂
Is it just me, or does no one else find it odd that these documentaries are almost always about 'transmen'? When they do show 'transwomen', it is invariably in a good light, emphasizing the victimhood and pathos or how wonderfully their families have stood by them. I am certain that they are skewed to show that men are good 'women' but that women make deranged 'men'.
Seconded. I'm forever grateful to people like Nutmeg, Lily Maynard and Exulansic for summarising shows like this. I don't think I could stomach watching the whole things in one sitting.
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Stick a fork in the BBC's arse - it's done. The way it obeys the edicts of Gender Ideology is pitiful to watch. Obviously this situation is a human tragedy waiting to happen - will the BBC do a follow-up when these people's lives unravel even further? Not a chance - that would be to blaspheme against the new Sacred Caste.
Did anyone watch the one with Kirsty Wark and a handful of other women? In one piece, they interviewed a 'transwoman' who was so obviously a man in female clothes, it was a joke. He had the temerity to state that his partner had not known he was 'trans' until recently! Obviously, the partner, if he existed, must have been deaf, blind, with no sense of touch or smell. The women, including Kirsty Wark, a professional journalist, blinked rapidly and smiled inanely and made a huge fuss of this gaslighting person. Women are far too accommodating of the planet's s**t instead of gathering it up and placing on heads. If we go on being accommodating, we will find ourselves in deep doo-doo. These men will not stop. They will never consider our feelings, so we should stop considering theirs. It's time for females the world over to say: enough!
It's very odd the slight differences in output and how some follow the 'editorial' line. I refuse to watch BBC TV now, because of those like Kirsty Wark and her simpering. Like Sarah Smith. But there are some glimmers on the radio provision and I wonder if that's the World service element? How when you are covering the atrocities happening to women worldwide, those teams are less likely to put up with this simpering alleged inclusivity which is no such thing.
Crikey ! Kids are not toys.I don't think they should have pet dog let alone a baby.How can some poor woman get banged up in prison for getting a late abortion when the world had gone nuts a couple of years ago, but this pair of total creepies get to have a kid without any questions ? If they are "men " they can't suddenly decide to be women to give birth and not be challenged. Nutters.
I think that there is something not quite kosher about the actual woman. She maybe does deserve a bit of compassion. The other one, the butch lesbian-cum-'transman' - about as convincing as a green sky and blue grass with that utterly female beard that clings only to certain parts of the face and chin - seems a bit deranged. For starters, as soon as you take testosterone, your inner female bits atrophy and, later, usually require to be removed. An entire 'trans' generation of young females is going to have to come to terms with being infertile, neither man nor woman, probably going through life being exploited by the unscrupulous and unable to either enjoy sexual relations. Same with the boys persuaded into removing their penis and testicles. That they will also suffer urethra and bladdder problems for their rest of the natural is a given, too. Their rage will know no bounds, and we, as a society, will pay the price. As for the putative baby, God help it!
Yes, of course, but they will appear to your average person in the street as neither one nor the other, I'm afraid, even if they detransition later. What I find most disconcerting about the whole thing is that all these young females will have done this stunning and brave thing for absolutely nothing because they, along with 'transchildren' are merely shields for 'transwomen'.
They are incidental to the story, and the men are the star of the show. I wish that women would stop being so self-sacrificial. I do understand it probably has something to do with biology and with competition, but the stupidity and lack of forethought they display towards their own wellbeing, for the sake of appearing allies of men who care absolutely nothing about them, does lend one to believe that females do themselves no favours.
I was reading something about the two chimpanzee sub species, chimps and bonobos, our closest DNA relatives. Apparently, the only real difference between them except in size (with the males in both being larger than the females, albeit bonobos are smaller overall) is that they are organized differently.
In chimp society, the females are always subordinate to the higher ranking males who often treat them atrociously, and have been known to kill them, but, interestingly, it is almost always females who approach strange objects first, while the males scream in anxiety, and, again, it is almost always females who initiate new ways of feeding and surviving by discovering new foods to eat and how to secure them, using tools, and who pass these skills on to the next generation.
In bonobo society, the females are dominant, and can be aggressive, but far less so than chimps, and extensive studies of both sub species have shown that, while female initiative is crucial to chimp survival, it is largely unrewarded and unrecognized by the high ranking male chimps, while bonobo society, just as successful, rests on powerful female solidarity, largely missing from chimp society.
Fewer members are killed or attacked, and harmony is the usual state of affairs in bonobo society. There is a lesson there for human females, and one that the 'trans' lobby/activists have exploited. They have banked on females being antagonistic to other females, and, alarming for them, older, experienced women have formed a sisterhood which is standing up to the 'transwomen', and they do not like it - which, in itself, says a great deal about them: they are female exclusionary; they are misogynistic; and they want female erasure. Why? We stand in their way from having it all.
And this is why the story of the alpha baboons is so enjoyable! They persecuted all the rest of the baboons and it was first-come, first-serve when the troop found some poisoned meat. Guess who ate it?
I don't think women's willingness to go along with patriarchal society is anything other than centuries if not millennia of brainwashing and terror.
The fightback is underway in the West, but it seems that underground movements in Iran, Afghanistan, many of the Arab countries are also operating, and young females, unlike ours, do not have the leisure or sense of middle class privilege to be able to afford to betray their sisters for the sake of men who care nothing for them and their lives. Let's hope your 'baboons' in human land get their just desserts because our planet can't take much more of their self centred stupidity.
Yes, I think when misogyny is more open -- though I don't know what's more open than trying to totally erase women, excusing the rape and murder of women, pursuing war against people who pose no threat which profoundly affects women and children -- it is easier to see and fight it.
The wonderful Deborrah Cooper asked why white women are so afraid to stand up to transgenderism. Cooper is African-American which means her ancestors were terrorized by white men, but they survived so had to have a certain amount of strength. I think the terror that European women were subjected to is deep within many women's consciousness and keeps them passive and acquiescent in the face of male brutality.
Bonobos cropped up in psychology and a few other areas and organisational studies about two decades ago when I was studying. Thanks for the reminder. Most of what we studied seemed to come down to: why we kill (damage or harm) each other and how we work together for the benefit of whom. Seems to apply well now!
It was frustrating for me at the time to learn this is a thing in a few animal groups - these weird or hangover non-adaptive hierarchies where an animal may be skilled, creative, curious, brave, passing things down to the next generation and benefitting the group as a whole, but demands of the group are that they defer to higher ranking males. And they are higher ranking males why...
And some will kill and destroy the group and therefore themselves. Hard not to extend that to what we are doing now to entire countries and the planet. The strains of motivations that have been distilled and magnified. To not cooperate.
Auntie joined Stonewall's employer scheme. This was solely meant to assist HR in managing stunning & brave staff. Bizarrely, & so far without explanation, the gender id extremism embedded in Stonewall's employer guidance jumped over HR ring-fencing and into BBC editorial practice.
Something does feel like it's shifting though - the ones saying 'for the sake of balance' (let's talk to a man with a fetish who lies, abuses, threatens and cheats to do that) and most sound a bit unsure when they say it now. And don't blatantly push back on anyone 'gender critical' and laud the transwhatevers so forcefully. Nuala McGovern on Woman's Hour got me wanting to throw things, but even she seems to have dialled it back (or been told to) as I have listened again. She didn't continually interrupt and sigh huff and puff, being so generally unpleasantly antagonistic when Sharron Davies was on recently.
Down the rabbit hole, through the looking glass and out the other side wearing the Emperors New Clothes. We must all believe 6 impossible things before breakfast. And pay for the privilege.
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Who edited this? I'm not arguing the details of a show I have not watched, but something doesn't add up for me. This reads as though the person who put the program together was either (A) appalled and letting the thing speak for itself, or (B) utterly lacking self-awareness. We need to know who the hero or moron is, and then who approved their final edit.
It seems to have been made for BBC Scotland under the auspices of a company called Studio Something who seem to primarily be an advertising and marketing company and aren't boasting about it on their website (though they are on Twitter).
It was produced, filmed and directed by Hannah Currie, with Tim Currie listed as an editor.
The Commissioning Editor at BBC Scotland was Steve Allen, Commissioning Executive - Popular Factual, Formats, and Digital.
I don't think Steve Allen is our problem here. His CV is popular non-ideological shows. Currie is definitely ideological, she wears it on her Twitter account. My read: Allen may or may not hate the show, Currie is so self-unaware that she doesn't see how it looks.
She seems to have done quite a few commissions for BBC Scotland on 'social' themes such as mental health so it's possible she has a bit of a fan base there.
Still worth dropping Steve Allen a line asking if he intends to commission anything to provide balance against this production.
Whether A or B, I think the general public, watching this, will be appalled. It will have the opposite effect of that which the 'trans' lobby expects. Everything they touch has the opposite effect to that which they hoped it would be.
Good grief, these two have enough issues to support an entire programme of psychiatric conferences, but instead of them getting the help they so desperately need, we're supposed to celebrate their lives. The BBC could have done the responsible thing and suggested this to the damaged pair, but no, they're part of the cheer-leading crew and ignoring the truth.
According to Vanity Fair, Substack platforms ‘enemies of the trans community’.
God Almighty, we’re so sick of the ubiquitous truth-suppressing spin. Say what it really is -- the reclamation of women’s and children’s and vulnerable persons’ rights.
WordPress has been censoring people for many years now so I'm not concerned that it will beat out Substack. And The Atlantic is edited by a former Israeli prison guard. Not sure how that qualifies one for an editorship, but it certainly explains the crap content.
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My wife asked me last night (after yet another rant at the madness that is the BBC) why I put myself through it, and should I not be turning it off. My answer was: is it really a good idea for us to be unaware of the Corporation's normalisation of harmful behaviour? In the words of the Manic Street Preachers, "If you tolerate this, then your children will be next"
I think we do need to know what is happening. You can't fight something you have no idea of at all. Our children? They are already being assaulted in schools by this horse manure when every part of the UK has strict policies in place as to what schools may and may not teach. What they are doing is illegal, not just immoral.
Good grief. Incredible if what you describe has been broadcast. I can't believe that would get past editorial control but actually it's good that it's out there for all to see in all its craziness. will have a look and let's hope the papers pick it up too. the more sunlight on this crazy stuff the better.
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Put not your faith in 'celebrities'. But hey, look at these nitwits signalling (for posterity) their alliance with the wrong side of history. Numpties, all.
I found this incredibly sad. A lot of confused young people earning money through porn and revealing their most personal experiences on social media and now on tv. These are gay women who have done irreparable harm to their bodies and it’s being celebrated by everyone around them. A whole group of female friends have ‘transitioned’. They’re talking about ‘bottom surgery’ like it will actually make them men. It’s just absolutely tragic. I found it painful to watch.
Christ alive. Following a family of heroin addicts would have been more ethical. And they might have mentioned the hazards associated with heroin. Nothing about cross-sex hormones, of course.
My God, what a satisfactory sentence: "Try as they might, the BBC can't hide the fact that the subjects of their new documentary are deeply disturbed ... "
Let them continue to tell the Story of this deeply dangerous ideology -- you know that ideology -- the one that magnetizes disturbed personalities. People have to know it's not all about 'love', 'authenticity', 'kindness', 'social justice', 'stunning' and 'brave' 'explorers' of the new 'gender' horizon, etc. etc. In fact, it's the complete opposite of everything that is Good. It's all about hatred, phoniness, cruelty, anti-social injustice, cowardly re-inforcers of gender stereotype, etc. etc. We are in an existential crisis of mass delusion, mass capitulation, and mass ignorance. These true crime stories may serve to wake up the public.
I hope you’re right about waking people up but I’m not so sure. Too many just don’t want to know. There’s a definite ‘end of days ‘ feel about the west at the moment.
As for the BBC, what a disgrace. Brilliant work as ever by ripe4nutmeg.
So true. Most people appear to be resolute in their denial. When I relate any of the facts reported on this blog I am met with: that’s just not happening in our schools, it’s propaganda, it’s made up, you need to get out more, don’t be ridiculous, you’re being unkind to a persecuted community, you need to stop reading rubbish on the Daily Mail website. I’ve been laughed at, scorned, told that I’m obsessed, that my “obsession” is unhealthy (my obsession!) and told I need to get some help. People either don’t want to know or are afraid to agree. Remember that song. Manic Street Preachers about fascism. “If you tolerate this, then your children will be next”. We are already there on this issue. Our children are being targeted now and these brainwashed and dangerous fools need sectioning and not provided with a propaganda platform by the captured idiots at the BBC.
I couldn’t agree more. That mirrors my experience exactly. It’s already difficult to broach the subject and it has so many layers, where do you begin? And then to be met with indifference or hostility is so disheartening. But it’s too important to give up on. That’s why I love chatting on these groups. It really helps to talk to like minded people and know that I’m not going round the bend. So thank you everyone on here.
My kids, although they thoroughly agree with me, still call me 'obsessed'. Guess I am. But this is the most dangerous, all-encompassing ideology -- top-down in origin -- so really truly scary. Tremendous power and influence behind the scenes. As I've said before, we need the "Birthing Parent" of all inquiries. Nothing less will do.
I have played that on repeat at times just to try to hold onto some rational, sane, reachable, hopeful sense of reality! Thank you for the reminder :-)
Me too. My family think I'm over reacting and watching too many YouTube videos ,although none of them agree with gender ideology !!
My family too. I've learned to stay quiet these days, but when a dear friend told me that a work colleague of her daughter was trans and 'she's so lovely', I kept my mouth as shut as I possibly could. Fast forward a few months, and 'she' was found in the ladies work toilets in a pool of blood, having 'cut herself'. He took time off work after he came out of hospital, and my friend's daughter had to cover for him, no extra wages, of course...He was promoted over her, when she'd been tipped to get the promotion....He comes back to work and lo and behold, he does it again. This time, he's been sectioned. She's yet again doing his work and hers, no extra wages. This will be stretched out for months now, I'd imagine, until he can be sacked, whereupon, I presume, he may well sue his employers. Sigh.... The odd thing was my friend didn't have the courage to say 'You were right, nutty as fruitcakes, I'm sorry I didn't listen'. Double sigh
Absolutely agree!!
I know what you mean. But I'm still clinging to the hope that the public, when they finally see what's going on, will rise up. If they watch it, that is. And probably, many will take a pass. But it might reach exactly who it needs to reach.
We have to hope otherwise we’d give up and then what kind of future would our children have. We must keep fighting and speaking out. And yes, articles like this definitely help.
Don't worry guys. The worm IS turning. The fight back is becoming louder and more frequent. As a result others are finding their courage and speaking about it openly to each other. It's a snowball effect, with the first snowballs pushed by our wonderful Graham et al. I just hope it happens sooner rather than later.
my experience of seeing this play out in school is that people will demand rights for their kids based on biology. No one is prepared to let their little girl share changing rooms with boys regardless of how they label themselves. Everyone’s…. ‘yeah trans, thats cool…’ until the f-ing penny drops. No one wants their little girl to miss out on the team to a boy, or have their privacy destroyed. F that.
Identity politics is making its way through people’s consciousness like a late night kebab covered in red hot chilly sauce makes its way through one’s digestive system. Hard work. and painful, but necessary. What felt like a good idea at the time has consequences. Expel the poison.
Yes, well done to 'nutmeg'. Huge amount of work needed to put this all together. Thank you! xxx
I would think that watching this would be depressing!
I agree. There's no way that I could sit through this without being distressed watching two people who are obviously damaged.
Many thanks ripx4nutmeg. An exceptionally clear unpacking of this tv series.
It's clinical and forensic isn't it? Just like JL, by breaking down these instances point by point and it's comprehensive and therefore devastating. Nowhere to hide here folx!
Dear God, this is unbearable. What child stands a chance in that household?
Time to defund the BBC.
Reason number 5461 I stopped paying the telly tax
Well done, I’m just about to cancel it.
Good , it’s dead easy and I’m telling no lies , I don’t watch any of the bbc shit and I’m damned sure I’m not paying for it
And me. They keep threatening me with fines, prison, bailiffs, thugs and heavies but they will never get another penny out of me.
Absolutely nothing they can do , you don’t need to let them into your home , fuck em
That’s what my brother says. Don’t say anything and don’t let them in.
Exactly , not a thing they can do , only time my telly is on is if me and little petal are having a movie and Maltesers night , other chocolates are available 😂
I’ve read it’s fine, as long as you don’t watch any BBC.
No you can’t watch any live time streaming either
Doesn’t matter to me , it’s all pish
What? You don’t like being force fed propaganda? You’re weird.
Is it just me, or does no one else find it odd that these documentaries are almost always about 'transmen'? When they do show 'transwomen', it is invariably in a good light, emphasizing the victimhood and pathos or how wonderfully their families have stood by them. I am certain that they are skewed to show that men are good 'women' but that women make deranged 'men'.
Sorry , I don’t get what you’re trying to say 🤷♀️
First time I’ve been called weird but ok
Thank you. You really took one for the team watching that incomprehensible drivel.
Thought and prayers sister xx💕
Seconded. I'm forever grateful to people like Nutmeg, Lily Maynard and Exulansic for summarising shows like this. I don't think I could stomach watching the whole things in one sitting.
I know! For years I've thought there should be some special award / reward for people who sit through shit so they can analyze it for the rest of us.
I can't even stomach Jazz Jennings on Exulansic's blog. I don't watch those or her nutritional / makeup videos.
indeed i’d need a fully air conditioned vomitorium to get through that shite
Stick a fork in the BBC's arse - it's done. The way it obeys the edicts of Gender Ideology is pitiful to watch. Obviously this situation is a human tragedy waiting to happen - will the BBC do a follow-up when these people's lives unravel even further? Not a chance - that would be to blaspheme against the new Sacred Caste.
Loving the reference to the BBC being done! :)
And it is well and truly done!
Did anyone watch the one with Kirsty Wark and a handful of other women? In one piece, they interviewed a 'transwoman' who was so obviously a man in female clothes, it was a joke. He had the temerity to state that his partner had not known he was 'trans' until recently! Obviously, the partner, if he existed, must have been deaf, blind, with no sense of touch or smell. The women, including Kirsty Wark, a professional journalist, blinked rapidly and smiled inanely and made a huge fuss of this gaslighting person. Women are far too accommodating of the planet's s**t instead of gathering it up and placing on heads. If we go on being accommodating, we will find ourselves in deep doo-doo. These men will not stop. They will never consider our feelings, so we should stop considering theirs. It's time for females the world over to say: enough!
It's very odd the slight differences in output and how some follow the 'editorial' line. I refuse to watch BBC TV now, because of those like Kirsty Wark and her simpering. Like Sarah Smith. But there are some glimmers on the radio provision and I wonder if that's the World service element? How when you are covering the atrocities happening to women worldwide, those teams are less likely to put up with this simpering alleged inclusivity which is no such thing.
Crikey ! Kids are not toys.I don't think they should have pet dog let alone a baby.How can some poor woman get banged up in prison for getting a late abortion when the world had gone nuts a couple of years ago, but this pair of total creepies get to have a kid without any questions ? If they are "men " they can't suddenly decide to be women to give birth and not be challenged. Nutters.
I think that there is something not quite kosher about the actual woman. She maybe does deserve a bit of compassion. The other one, the butch lesbian-cum-'transman' - about as convincing as a green sky and blue grass with that utterly female beard that clings only to certain parts of the face and chin - seems a bit deranged. For starters, as soon as you take testosterone, your inner female bits atrophy and, later, usually require to be removed. An entire 'trans' generation of young females is going to have to come to terms with being infertile, neither man nor woman, probably going through life being exploited by the unscrupulous and unable to either enjoy sexual relations. Same with the boys persuaded into removing their penis and testicles. That they will also suffer urethra and bladdder problems for their rest of the natural is a given, too. Their rage will know no bounds, and we, as a society, will pay the price. As for the putative baby, God help it!
They're still female as their DNA is entirely female.
Yes, of course, but they will appear to your average person in the street as neither one nor the other, I'm afraid, even if they detransition later. What I find most disconcerting about the whole thing is that all these young females will have done this stunning and brave thing for absolutely nothing because they, along with 'transchildren' are merely shields for 'transwomen'.
They are incidental to the story, and the men are the star of the show. I wish that women would stop being so self-sacrificial. I do understand it probably has something to do with biology and with competition, but the stupidity and lack of forethought they display towards their own wellbeing, for the sake of appearing allies of men who care absolutely nothing about them, does lend one to believe that females do themselves no favours.
I was reading something about the two chimpanzee sub species, chimps and bonobos, our closest DNA relatives. Apparently, the only real difference between them except in size (with the males in both being larger than the females, albeit bonobos are smaller overall) is that they are organized differently.
In chimp society, the females are always subordinate to the higher ranking males who often treat them atrociously, and have been known to kill them, but, interestingly, it is almost always females who approach strange objects first, while the males scream in anxiety, and, again, it is almost always females who initiate new ways of feeding and surviving by discovering new foods to eat and how to secure them, using tools, and who pass these skills on to the next generation.
In bonobo society, the females are dominant, and can be aggressive, but far less so than chimps, and extensive studies of both sub species have shown that, while female initiative is crucial to chimp survival, it is largely unrewarded and unrecognized by the high ranking male chimps, while bonobo society, just as successful, rests on powerful female solidarity, largely missing from chimp society.
Fewer members are killed or attacked, and harmony is the usual state of affairs in bonobo society. There is a lesson there for human females, and one that the 'trans' lobby/activists have exploited. They have banked on females being antagonistic to other females, and, alarming for them, older, experienced women have formed a sisterhood which is standing up to the 'transwomen', and they do not like it - which, in itself, says a great deal about them: they are female exclusionary; they are misogynistic; and they want female erasure. Why? We stand in their way from having it all.
And this is why the story of the alpha baboons is so enjoyable! They persecuted all the rest of the baboons and it was first-come, first-serve when the troop found some poisoned meat. Guess who ate it?
I don't think women's willingness to go along with patriarchal society is anything other than centuries if not millennia of brainwashing and terror.
The fightback is underway in the West, but it seems that underground movements in Iran, Afghanistan, many of the Arab countries are also operating, and young females, unlike ours, do not have the leisure or sense of middle class privilege to be able to afford to betray their sisters for the sake of men who care nothing for them and their lives. Let's hope your 'baboons' in human land get their just desserts because our planet can't take much more of their self centred stupidity.
Yes, I think when misogyny is more open -- though I don't know what's more open than trying to totally erase women, excusing the rape and murder of women, pursuing war against people who pose no threat which profoundly affects women and children -- it is easier to see and fight it.
The wonderful Deborrah Cooper asked why white women are so afraid to stand up to transgenderism. Cooper is African-American which means her ancestors were terrorized by white men, but they survived so had to have a certain amount of strength. I think the terror that European women were subjected to is deep within many women's consciousness and keeps them passive and acquiescent in the face of male brutality.
Bonobos cropped up in psychology and a few other areas and organisational studies about two decades ago when I was studying. Thanks for the reminder. Most of what we studied seemed to come down to: why we kill (damage or harm) each other and how we work together for the benefit of whom. Seems to apply well now!
It was frustrating for me at the time to learn this is a thing in a few animal groups - these weird or hangover non-adaptive hierarchies where an animal may be skilled, creative, curious, brave, passing things down to the next generation and benefitting the group as a whole, but demands of the group are that they defer to higher ranking males. And they are higher ranking males why...
And some will kill and destroy the group and therefore themselves. Hard not to extend that to what we are doing now to entire countries and the planet. The strains of motivations that have been distilled and magnified. To not cooperate.
I started reading this, but it is too weird and insane for me.
What has happened to the BBC? Have they gone down the rabbit hole of trans mania?
Auntie joined Stonewall's employer scheme. This was solely meant to assist HR in managing stunning & brave staff. Bizarrely, & so far without explanation, the gender id extremism embedded in Stonewall's employer guidance jumped over HR ring-fencing and into BBC editorial practice.
Something does feel like it's shifting though - the ones saying 'for the sake of balance' (let's talk to a man with a fetish who lies, abuses, threatens and cheats to do that) and most sound a bit unsure when they say it now. And don't blatantly push back on anyone 'gender critical' and laud the transwhatevers so forcefully. Nuala McGovern on Woman's Hour got me wanting to throw things, but even she seems to have dialled it back (or been told to) as I have listened again. She didn't continually interrupt and sigh huff and puff, being so generally unpleasantly antagonistic when Sharron Davies was on recently.
Spot on.
Down the rabbit hole, through the looking glass and out the other side wearing the Emperors New Clothes. We must all believe 6 impossible things before breakfast. And pay for the privilege.
The six impossible things before breakfast sounds like American morning infotainment shows.
Who edited this? I'm not arguing the details of a show I have not watched, but something doesn't add up for me. This reads as though the person who put the program together was either (A) appalled and letting the thing speak for itself, or (B) utterly lacking self-awareness. We need to know who the hero or moron is, and then who approved their final edit.
I think it's "B".
It seems to have been made for BBC Scotland under the auspices of a company called Studio Something who seem to primarily be an advertising and marketing company and aren't boasting about it on their website (though they are on Twitter).
It was produced, filmed and directed by Hannah Currie, with Tim Currie listed as an editor.
The Commissioning Editor at BBC Scotland was Steve Allen, Commissioning Executive - Popular Factual, Formats, and Digital.
https://twitter.com/hannahcurrie
I don't think Steve Allen is our problem here. His CV is popular non-ideological shows. Currie is definitely ideological, she wears it on her Twitter account. My read: Allen may or may not hate the show, Currie is so self-unaware that she doesn't see how it looks.
Well done, thanks.
She seems to have done quite a few commissions for BBC Scotland on 'social' themes such as mental health so it's possible she has a bit of a fan base there.
Still worth dropping Steve Allen a line asking if he intends to commission anything to provide balance against this production.
The Studio Something executive producer Kathryn Burnett has BBC links as well.
Excellent digging both of you!
Whether A or B, I think the general public, watching this, will be appalled. It will have the opposite effect of that which the 'trans' lobby expects. Everything they touch has the opposite effect to that which they hoped it would be.
I rarely watch the BBC (not much of any interest to me) and I have come to realise that it really doesn’t seem fit for purpose these days. Sad really.
Good grief, these two have enough issues to support an entire programme of psychiatric conferences, but instead of them getting the help they so desperately need, we're supposed to celebrate their lives. The BBC could have done the responsible thing and suggested this to the damaged pair, but no, they're part of the cheer-leading crew and ignoring the truth.
According to Vanity Fair, Substack platforms ‘enemies of the trans community’.
God Almighty, we’re so sick of the ubiquitous truth-suppressing spin. Say what it really is -- the reclamation of women’s and children’s and vulnerable persons’ rights.
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2023/06/substack-newsletter-wars?utm_brand=vf&utm_mailing=VF_HIVE_062823&bxid=5bd67e0124c17c104802de0c&cndid=48626956&hasha=32b77ad242842aefa2bebadf8b2d9fa0&hashb=07f2bf27075e57c1a65dcc3618293b89382417cc&hashc=f12a074dc15f791c65081fb55dcf0ab0d044504bec8de0b8c81cbdbedff27f82&esrc=newsletteroverlay&mbid=CRMVYF092120&source=EDT_VYF_NEWSLETTER_0_HIVE_ZZ
Woman must stop buying that Magazine and Woke Vogue.
Never have, so job done.
WordPress has been censoring people for many years now so I'm not concerned that it will beat out Substack. And The Atlantic is edited by a former Israeli prison guard. Not sure how that qualifies one for an editorship, but it certainly explains the crap content.
My wife asked me last night (after yet another rant at the madness that is the BBC) why I put myself through it, and should I not be turning it off. My answer was: is it really a good idea for us to be unaware of the Corporation's normalisation of harmful behaviour? In the words of the Manic Street Preachers, "If you tolerate this, then your children will be next"
Just made that point further up the thread. Are children are not next, they are now. It may be too late.
I think we do need to know what is happening. You can't fight something you have no idea of at all. Our children? They are already being assaulted in schools by this horse manure when every part of the UK has strict policies in place as to what schools may and may not teach. What they are doing is illegal, not just immoral.
Good grief. Incredible if what you describe has been broadcast. I can't believe that would get past editorial control but actually it's good that it's out there for all to see in all its craziness. will have a look and let's hope the papers pick it up too. the more sunlight on this crazy stuff the better.
Put not your faith in 'celebrities'. But hey, look at these nitwits signalling (for posterity) their alliance with the wrong side of history. Numpties, all.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12242691/Dylan-Mulvaney-calls-social-media-CENSOR-malicious-lies-gender-transition-therapy.html
Celebrities? Hardly a one, except in their own heads. Mulvany is a fad, and the rest are who exactly? Agreed complete nitwit is what they are
Jesus H. Bold Name Crazies, Batman!
I found this incredibly sad. A lot of confused young people earning money through porn and revealing their most personal experiences on social media and now on tv. These are gay women who have done irreparable harm to their bodies and it’s being celebrated by everyone around them. A whole group of female friends have ‘transitioned’. They’re talking about ‘bottom surgery’ like it will actually make them men. It’s just absolutely tragic. I found it painful to watch.
I agree. One butch lesbian and one femme lesbian.
Christ alive. Following a family of heroin addicts would have been more ethical. And they might have mentioned the hazards associated with heroin. Nothing about cross-sex hormones, of course.