Some people seem to think it's insulting to describe people as having mental problems. But what is gender dysphoria if not a mental problem? It's not an insult to suggest someone might be mentally ill, there's no judgement involved, it's something that needs to be treated and cured, especially when it's affecting society to such a deleterious end.
susie green sited her son having gender dysphoria and then she cut his nob off which is a terrible solution to an acknowledged mental health problem. they can’t make their bloody minds up.
Yes. Many mental disorders impact other people worse than the ‘holder’ (eg narcissism) but they’re still classed as disorders because we do all need to function as a society.
Twitter 2 meant to be free speech? Requires a medical diagnosis according to Uk Gov - sure Graham will be back. They need to sort out their system/ staff
I joined 'genderheretics dot xyz' then tried to use it .....more fool me - straight onto Holocaust denying posts pitting Holomodor against Jews.... unjoining now .... if that's alternative to twatter no thank you.
EDIT - free speech is one thing but the FACT is that my father was child in concentration camp and lost his entire family. I very rarely want to state this horrible fact and why should I have to? The Nazis made so many documents to prove the Holocaust that I really can do without spending the rest of my life proving it all over again and again for the joy of dishonest anti-semites.
EDIT2 - if that was the 'trans' lobby trying to discredit any platform allowing critical statements against 'gender' then very nasty indeed.
EDIT3 - @William A. Ferguson - can't see how to unsubscribe, received no email - pls advise - thank you.
Genderheretics.xyz works the same way as Mastodon: we're linked with other "instances" or sites across something we call the Fediverse. You can talk to other people on other instances and they can talk to you.
Some instances have strict rules about what you can and cannot say, others are a wild-ass free for all.
And yes, unfortunately, some instances allow their users to say the most obnoxious, odious and vile things, such as anti-semetism, racism, holocaust denial, etc.
There are even a few instances that allow child pornography.
As far as I know, nobody on Genderheretics.xyz is racist or antisemitic and if they are I remove them from my instance as soon as they're discovered. I also won't stand for kiddie porn, or even regular porn.
If you ever decide to come back, keep this in mind.
I agree with you 100%. Being mentally ill should evoke sympathy from people, not offence. We want people to be correctly diagnosed so that we can help them! With explorative therapy, NOT gender-affirmative care. They agree with you that gender dysphoria is debilitating right up until the point where you (correctly) say that it doesn't change a person's sex...
It’s ludicrous to think association with mental problems is hateful when a diagnosis of dysphoria is required for a GRC in the UK (notwithstanding proposed changes in Scotland).
Question of free speech - sorry you've been removed again .... no doubt they will say you are calling for the erasure of 'trans' .... just as you might call for the erasure of other dysmorphic (body hating) dysphoria (unhappiness) mental conditions. But if that were allowed, think of the loss of income of all the grifters, docs, surgeons, pharmaceutical companies etc .... dangerous thinking Glinner whether it helps anyone else or not!
Not that such an agreement is necessarily a terrible idea. But we haven't been involved in the discussion. Gnats the point. These rules of etiquette are imposed by the same people silencing and smearing people like me.
I've been locked out of my main account for months now, suspended for violating rules for hateful conduct. I've appealed 3 times and tagged Elon Musk from another account only to have that one permanently suspended without appeal. Twitter still operating arbitrarily.
Offending Tweet:
"No such thing as trans, it's a cruel despicable lie promulgated by homophobics and misogynists. Vulnerable people with mental health issues, conditions like autism and young people struggling to come to terms with their sexuality are being preyed on by 'kind people' ".
I haven't even had the opportunity to delete. I'm just locked out entirely. In fact it took me MONTHS before I realised there WAS a tweet of mine that had "triggered" it. On 2nd appeal and they are ignoring me.
You should get a link to delete the 'offending' tweet in the email informing you of your heinous crime. I refuse to delete it so have resurrected and old account from 2015. Want my gc_nurse account back though for my followers.
I have been suspended too. Here is my "crime", attacking the dangerous Roderic O'Gorman:
@rodericogorman My trans ex-H was castrated. Do you seriously want to encourage children to go as mad as he was? GD is a v serious mental disorder - AVOID promoting it to young kids! It is "Mind virus" per @ElonMusk #GIischildabuse #sexnotgender https://t.co/0GAy5q3za9 "
I'm not allowed to "like", "tweet" or "re-tweet". But I am receiving new Tweets (including Arty's heartbreaking epitaph to his mother).
"We've temporarily limited some of your account features
ScientistTranswidows
@STranswidows
What happened?
We have determined that you have violated the Twitter Rules, so we’ve temporarily limited some of your account features. While in this state, you can still browse Twitter, but you’re limited to only sending Direct Messages to your followers — no Tweets, Retweets, Fleets, follows, or likes. Your account will be restored to full functionality in:
Riddle me this. If 'gender' 'dysphoria' is not a mental illness, why will they be driven to commit suicide if they are not medically and socially 'affirmed'?
That’s because they are mentally ill! You cannot reason with crazy! It’s the next step after narcissism. Not narcissism as a diagnosis, but in the cultural sense of tactics of misogyny.
This is troubling. There are still algorithms or Cult members at Twitter set on censoring truth tellers. I also got a Twitter suspension for politely stating that trans "women" are NOT women. I decided to say "Uncle" this time to be reinstated....i.e. I deleted the tweet and they restored my account. I did so with great reluctance after assessing the value of ongoing access to Twitter to connect with other sane people for organizing against the Cult.
I got banned permanently in early December. I assume I 'misgendered', called a man a man or possibly commented on the mental health of people who believe this rubbish. Twitter never told me why despite 20 appeals 🤣
I'm focusing on preparing to formally challenge Gender Identity Indoctrination in the schools...in my own area, and trying to find ways to connect people doing the same elsewhere (especially in the U.S. where I am.) I was really irritated to be suspended on Twitter, and to know that if I "appealed" the result would be a de facto ban. I considered various options...even tried talking about this on some Musk thread I think. But ultimately I decided to stay focused on the heavy duty work to be done for the school challenges. (If someone else leads on contacting Musk, I'll happily share my case with them.)
I refuse to go on Twitter. It’s anti-biology and anti-women. Of course the tweet isn’t hateful but it doesn’t comply with the attempts to brainwash us that men can become women.
Its a sort of Shrodinger's problem... Is it a Mental/Health condition? Or Is it NOT a Mental/Health condition?
EA2010 has its 9th Protected Characteristic as "gender reassignment". The assumption with that PC is that one is undergoing transition and as such will have medical support at the very least.
On one hand, "trans" persons say they NEED "trans healthcare" (as if the concept of "trans" is a separate type of human). They MUST have immediate access to all the drugs they demand and all the surgeries or this is discrimination.
At the very same time, they say that their being "trans" is NOT a health condition of any kind whatsoever. Its not a mental illness, its not a physical one.
They can't have it both ways.
If its NOT a mental or physical health condition, then why do they need the drugs and surgeries? That says they are drug addicts and addicted to ever extreme body modifications. That's self harm.
PC 9 - gender reassignment - if it IS a health condition whether mental or physical, it can be covered perfectly well under Disability. If its NOT a health condition, whether mental or physical, it is then just a lifestyle choice - because taking recreational drugs and having cosmetic surgeries IS a lifestyle choice.
Thus - PC 9 - Gender Reassignment should be removed entirely as a separate and distinct protected characteristics. Its covered under "belief/Non-belief".
No other lifestyle choice nor specific health condition has its own PC. Why should this one?
Hope you get your twitter account back. Twitter won't talk to me now on mine.
You are of course totally correct, Felicity, about the Equality Act. The GRA specifies that the two medical professionals (one of whom must be a specialist in Gender) must agree that the applicant for a GRC has a diagnosis of "gender dysphoria" AND in S25 "gender dysphoria" is defined as "a disorder", a mental disorder. And there is a practical reason why that was included: in order to get an assessment, a diagnosis and treatment on the NHS the applicant must have a recognised illness or disorder. The NHS does not pay for "non-illnesses" and "non-disorders". The TRAs cannot point to a "naturally occurring" origin for their strange mental state. It is defined BY LAW a disorder.
Some people seem to think it's insulting to describe people as having mental problems. But what is gender dysphoria if not a mental problem? It's not an insult to suggest someone might be mentally ill, there's no judgement involved, it's something that needs to be treated and cured, especially when it's affecting society to such a deleterious end.
susie green sited her son having gender dysphoria and then she cut his nob off which is a terrible solution to an acknowledged mental health problem. they can’t make their bloody minds up.
If wanting to have your penis flayed isn’t sign of a mental illness then Lord knows what is
Its not a great sign of internal balance is it.
So we have people suffering with a serious problem on one hand- love and best wishes to them,
and men’s right activists on the other. Well they can f off can’t they.
i’d hate to see how susie green would treat depression. Probably a finger?
Labotomy
With some electroshock therapy thrown in. (Btw, it's lobotomy.)
Yes. Many mental disorders impact other people worse than the ‘holder’ (eg narcissism) but they’re still classed as disorders because we do all need to function as a society.
And keep within the laws of the country you live in, can’t see what the issue is
Except people like Trudeau, Biden, Sturgeon (etc) lead to bad law.
And let us begin discussing THEIR mental disorders which are legion.
According to Twitter it's insulting.
Thou Shalt Not Poke Fun At The Men In Dresses.
Eventually they'll drop the hammer on you. I honestly can't fathom why you'd even deign to be on that shithole site.
And when they do, you can always come to genderheretics.xyz. I won't boot you for calling a mental illness a mental illness. ;-)
Oh, and I'll even give you a BanHammer.
It’s for the publicity isn’t it. Kelly-Jay said recently she reckons she could have got a lot more done if she had been on twitt the last few years.
Twitter 2 meant to be free speech? Requires a medical diagnosis according to Uk Gov - sure Graham will be back. They need to sort out their system/ staff
I joined 'genderheretics dot xyz' then tried to use it .....more fool me - straight onto Holocaust denying posts pitting Holomodor against Jews.... unjoining now .... if that's alternative to twatter no thank you.
EDIT - free speech is one thing but the FACT is that my father was child in concentration camp and lost his entire family. I very rarely want to state this horrible fact and why should I have to? The Nazis made so many documents to prove the Holocaust that I really can do without spending the rest of my life proving it all over again and again for the joy of dishonest anti-semites.
EDIT2 - if that was the 'trans' lobby trying to discredit any platform allowing critical statements against 'gender' then very nasty indeed.
EDIT3 - @William A. Ferguson - can't see how to unsubscribe, received no email - pls advise - thank you.
Here's the thing:
Genderheretics.xyz works the same way as Mastodon: we're linked with other "instances" or sites across something we call the Fediverse. You can talk to other people on other instances and they can talk to you.
Some instances have strict rules about what you can and cannot say, others are a wild-ass free for all.
And yes, unfortunately, some instances allow their users to say the most obnoxious, odious and vile things, such as anti-semetism, racism, holocaust denial, etc.
There are even a few instances that allow child pornography.
As far as I know, nobody on Genderheretics.xyz is racist or antisemitic and if they are I remove them from my instance as soon as they're discovered. I also won't stand for kiddie porn, or even regular porn.
If you ever decide to come back, keep this in mind.
You can always block the individuals or their entire domains.
Tell me what your screen name is and I’ll delete your account.
Moodie
Done.
Thank you.
Westminster said GRCs must have diagnosis of gender dysphoria by a medical person - it is the law isn’t it?
I agree with you 100%. Being mentally ill should evoke sympathy from people, not offence. We want people to be correctly diagnosed so that we can help them! With explorative therapy, NOT gender-affirmative care. They agree with you that gender dysphoria is debilitating right up until the point where you (correctly) say that it doesn't change a person's sex...
It’s ludicrous to think association with mental problems is hateful when a diagnosis of dysphoria is required for a GRC in the UK (notwithstanding proposed changes in Scotland).
hold on there Cathy, you’re using logic and intelligence there, thats not going to cut it with the Traliban.
excellent point maybe the best for Glinner?
Question of free speech - sorry you've been removed again .... no doubt they will say you are calling for the erasure of 'trans' .... just as you might call for the erasure of other dysmorphic (body hating) dysphoria (unhappiness) mental conditions. But if that were allowed, think of the loss of income of all the grifters, docs, surgeons, pharmaceutical companies etc .... dangerous thinking Glinner whether it helps anyone else or not!
can we elevate from horse to dog? horse isn’t actually so bad.
Oh, but you're applying logic! Logic is anti-woke.
(computer voice) LOGIC IS FOR THE UNBELIEVERS. SEIZE THEM SEIZE THEM. PUT THEM IN THE REEDUCATION CHAMBER WITH SUSIE GREEN SON’S PENIS
-sorry, been a long day
Not that such an agreement is necessarily a terrible idea. But we haven't been involved in the discussion. Gnats the point. These rules of etiquette are imposed by the same people silencing and smearing people like me.
Oh lord, what is the world coming to when to state a biological fact is called 'hate speech'?!
We were all hoping that Musk would selectively get rid of the TRA "moderators", but it is not clear which ones he has sacked..
possibly more a problem with algorithms
The algorithms only call attention to keywords to a human operator who then makes the decision that you broke the rules.
Is that the part of the business he will stay involved with when he’s not CEO?
I never thought they'd go away.
Not enough of them...
It's been like that for some time now.
I've been locked out of my main account for months now, suspended for violating rules for hateful conduct. I've appealed 3 times and tagged Elon Musk from another account only to have that one permanently suspended without appeal. Twitter still operating arbitrarily.
Offending Tweet:
"No such thing as trans, it's a cruel despicable lie promulgated by homophobics and misogynists. Vulnerable people with mental health issues, conditions like autism and young people struggling to come to terms with their sexuality are being preyed on by 'kind people' ".
I refuse to delete the Tweet.
I haven't even had the opportunity to delete. I'm just locked out entirely. In fact it took me MONTHS before I realised there WAS a tweet of mine that had "triggered" it. On 2nd appeal and they are ignoring me.
It's Orwellian. Biological truth puts you in room 101. Please let the world turn the right way up!
You should get a link to delete the 'offending' tweet in the email informing you of your heinous crime. I refuse to delete it so have resurrected and old account from 2015. Want my gc_nurse account back though for my followers.
Oh that is appalling...
@gc_nurse is the account
I'd just leave shithole site if I were you.
General amnesty? Fuck that. You ain't getting no amnesty.
Come to genderheretics.xyz and I'll treat ya right. :-)
Eventually they're gonna give you all the boot for calling a man a man. It's their nature.
Sounds pretty accurate to me Sue
Me too!
Gnats the point! Writing on an iphone is like having lBaldrick check your spelling.
I have been suspended too. Here is my "crime", attacking the dangerous Roderic O'Gorman:
@rodericogorman My trans ex-H was castrated. Do you seriously want to encourage children to go as mad as he was? GD is a v serious mental disorder - AVOID promoting it to young kids! It is "Mind virus" per @ElonMusk #GIischildabuse #sexnotgender https://t.co/0GAy5q3za9 "
Please appeal for my account too: @STranswidows. Thank you!
i will, if i canwork out how to do it - can you show
I had a look - you seem to be still there: ScientistTranswidows @STranswidows Joined February 2020 https://twitter.com/STranswidows
I'm not allowed to "like", "tweet" or "re-tweet". But I am receiving new Tweets (including Arty's heartbreaking epitaph to his mother).
"We've temporarily limited some of your account features
ScientistTranswidows
@STranswidows
What happened?
We have determined that you have violated the Twitter Rules, so we’ve temporarily limited some of your account features. While in this state, you can still browse Twitter, but you’re limited to only sending Direct Messages to your followers — no Tweets, Retweets, Fleets, follows, or likes. Your account will be restored to full functionality in:
6 days and 10 hours."
Ho Hum!
Thanks, I only go on Twitter from time to time so I don't understand the sanctions properly.
Riddle me this. If 'gender' 'dysphoria' is not a mental illness, why will they be driven to commit suicide if they are not medically and socially 'affirmed'?
But it's true - they do pick and choose when it's a mental illness!
That’s because they are mentally ill! You cannot reason with crazy! It’s the next step after narcissism. Not narcissism as a diagnosis, but in the cultural sense of tactics of misogyny.
I was locked out for 24 hours for a similar comment. How is it hate to disagree with ridiculous affirmations?
This is troubling. There are still algorithms or Cult members at Twitter set on censoring truth tellers. I also got a Twitter suspension for politely stating that trans "women" are NOT women. I decided to say "Uncle" this time to be reinstated....i.e. I deleted the tweet and they restored my account. I did so with great reluctance after assessing the value of ongoing access to Twitter to connect with other sane people for organizing against the Cult.
I totally respect that, Carol.
I got banned permanently in early December. I assume I 'misgendered', called a man a man or possibly commented on the mental health of people who believe this rubbish. Twitter never told me why despite 20 appeals 🤣
What do you think about writing a snail mail letter to Elon with your documentation included? I would bet he doesn’t know this is going on.
I'm focusing on preparing to formally challenge Gender Identity Indoctrination in the schools...in my own area, and trying to find ways to connect people doing the same elsewhere (especially in the U.S. where I am.) I was really irritated to be suspended on Twitter, and to know that if I "appealed" the result would be a de facto ban. I considered various options...even tried talking about this on some Musk thread I think. But ultimately I decided to stay focused on the heavy duty work to be done for the school challenges. (If someone else leads on contacting Musk, I'll happily share my case with them.)
Refusing to acquiesce to a mass psychosis is transphobic. Who knew?
I want back on too. Fraserreal (@lawofgrace).
No matter how often I appeal, it's a no go.
Graham needs to get back onto Twitter -- he's doing a magnificent job there.
And we really need Maria Maclachlan (@Skepticat_UK) back on too. She's top of the heap great.
I refuse to go on Twitter. It’s anti-biology and anti-women. Of course the tweet isn’t hateful but it doesn’t comply with the attempts to brainwash us that men can become women.
Come to genderheretics.xyz where you can be a woman all about biology.
What is it exactly? Not sure what I’m signing up to.
It's like Twitter but it's mine. I am the proprietor.
They do have a mental illness, but the truth hurts.
Done. Bloody ridiculous
How did you do it?
Tweeted the Elon asking for reinstatement
Its a sort of Shrodinger's problem... Is it a Mental/Health condition? Or Is it NOT a Mental/Health condition?
EA2010 has its 9th Protected Characteristic as "gender reassignment". The assumption with that PC is that one is undergoing transition and as such will have medical support at the very least.
On one hand, "trans" persons say they NEED "trans healthcare" (as if the concept of "trans" is a separate type of human). They MUST have immediate access to all the drugs they demand and all the surgeries or this is discrimination.
At the very same time, they say that their being "trans" is NOT a health condition of any kind whatsoever. Its not a mental illness, its not a physical one.
They can't have it both ways.
If its NOT a mental or physical health condition, then why do they need the drugs and surgeries? That says they are drug addicts and addicted to ever extreme body modifications. That's self harm.
PC 9 - gender reassignment - if it IS a health condition whether mental or physical, it can be covered perfectly well under Disability. If its NOT a health condition, whether mental or physical, it is then just a lifestyle choice - because taking recreational drugs and having cosmetic surgeries IS a lifestyle choice.
Thus - PC 9 - Gender Reassignment should be removed entirely as a separate and distinct protected characteristics. Its covered under "belief/Non-belief".
No other lifestyle choice nor specific health condition has its own PC. Why should this one?
Hope you get your twitter account back. Twitter won't talk to me now on mine.
Very good analysis.
You are of course totally correct, Felicity, about the Equality Act. The GRA specifies that the two medical professionals (one of whom must be a specialist in Gender) must agree that the applicant for a GRC has a diagnosis of "gender dysphoria" AND in S25 "gender dysphoria" is defined as "a disorder", a mental disorder. And there is a practical reason why that was included: in order to get an assessment, a diagnosis and treatment on the NHS the applicant must have a recognised illness or disorder. The NHS does not pay for "non-illnesses" and "non-disorders". The TRAs cannot point to a "naturally occurring" origin for their strange mental state. It is defined BY LAW a disorder.
This is top class ; If it’s not a mental health issue no services should/would be paid for by the tax payer. Perfect logic.
I agree with you Graham. I've shared this on twitter and told twittersupport that you should be reinstated.