They should, they're desperately trying to disassociate from her, fearing they'll be fending off accusations of terfery and witchcraft. I've watched this as part of an article in the Mail. A woman at the front who's presumably 'supposed' to be speaking, tried to suggest that what they've just heard this woman say is irrelevant, it's not what they're there for, this is just one thing, the one that's absolutely NOT up for discussion. She doesn't want the debate to focus on "this one antagonistic issue". But at the same time she wants a debate that "enables all our sisters in this room to feel safe and supported". And an enthusiastic round of applause follows. Seemingly, no one has noticed that they're in the process of showing no support whatsoever to a woman in the room who is talking about women's safety.
Yes, fucking shame on them, men are doing well enough at oppressing and harming women on their own, they dont need women to help them.
When Empress Nicola here preaches a cult diktat as an attempted putdown to BraveWoman's speech, 'What we SHOULDN'T do is further stigmatise a group of WOMEN who are already too stigmatised already' [sic], they all zealously cheer and clap. None can allow themselves to see the nakedness.
I despair at the determined blindness of these betrayers of their sex.
Here’s a tale. Not too long ago, some idiots at the top decided the world need a new socially progressive movement. Why not a death cult that confuses children, takes away women’s breasts, puts rapists in women’s prisons, castrates young men, offers criminals anonymity and extra 'rights', ruins endocrine systems, causes sterilization and anorgasmia, ignores science, and takes away free speech? Let’s see, what else? Oh yes, a cult that instills fear. Palpable, near insurmountable fear. One that ruins careers, offers an easy open gateway for paedophilia, erases women, controls media, destroys democracy, and tears apart families. One that smashes long established necessary safeguarding. That’s a big ask — but hats off to them — the idiots at the top did it. With barely any pushback. Done and dusted, around the world, in the backrooms of nearly every institution -- all without public input. Slowly, the people began to awaken and fight back, but by then, millions of lives had already been ruined.
Yeah and don't forget maid (medical assistance in dying) in Tranada. Some people claim that medical staff tried to coerce them into signing up for it. It's truly a Death Cult and many cults have ended in mass suicide 😭😱👎
God Almighty, what are those women like? Are they what our foremothers fought in the streets for? This bunch of slavering handmaidens? Is this what we got the vote for? So that daft females could applaud another female who is determined to silence women and remove all their rights? Have they even bothered to look at Iran and Afghanistan? Is this how they want to end up? Fine by me, their choice, but they will not take me and mine, and all the others who genuinely object to this utter insanity, with them. Go and live over in those countries, why don't they, and see how females are treated. Marginally worse than gay people, and that's saying something when gay people are 'transitioned and/or killed if caught, as females are who step out of line, but at least gay people are not sold off to the highest bidder before puberty. Go there, ladies of the handmaiden sorority, and tell the mullahs and the Taliban how you advocate self-ID for heterosexual men who want to woman face into female identity and see if anyone claps.
The vile, porn-addled men who know exactly what they are doing, I loathe, but those women are beneath contempt because they are the enablers, along with Nicola Sturgeon and her cohort in the SNP who are destroying our rights, our society and everything that has any meaning in Scotland today. Of course 'trans' people need help, but the help they need is counselling and third spaces, not all of women's rights through self_ID. Nicola Sturgeon is being extremely economical with the truth when she says that the GRA Reform will have no effect on women and children. Of course, it will. If you make men into women IN LAW, then they become eligible for ALL female rights, spaces, etc. It will be illegal to keep them out - and Sturgeon knows that. She knows perfectly well.
A piece in 'The National' today has the temerity to suggest that there have been no repercussions for societies that have introduced self-ID, that no 'trans' women have used self-ID to harm females and children. Oh, is that right? Graham has spent the past several years pointing out the myriad ways in which men have used woman face to commit crimes against females and children. A veritable mountain of evidence exists. This falsehood that self-ID and woman face causes no harm to women and children needs to be quashed with evidence that they do lead the most determined men to use them as tools to gain advantage. Is the Scottish government a total bunch of idiots or are there still decent, level-headed people in it who do not support this dangerous and totally unevidenced nonsense. If there are, then speak up before it is too late because we see you and we will remove you. It might take time, but we will do it, either through elections or the courts, or both.
In the audience listening to Nicola Sturgeon, destroyer of women’s rights, was Mridhul Wadhwa the trans-identified man who runs the Edinburgh Rape Crisis Centre! I kid you not. Every one of the women in that audience who didn’t speak up in support of the heckler should be ashamed of themselves.
I only just found out that it not only 'supports' transwomen, but also non-binary people - so men not even pretending to be women. Additionally, children 12-18 are expected to use the service!
I notice a trend with all these TikTok posters, fiddling around with their faces and hair or flapping their fins and fingers in our faces. Is it meant to distract because it certainly has that effect on me.
Why did Ms Sturgeon not welcome the lady into the discussion and insist she was able to make her point from stage. Telling the audience to listen and then to try to explain why she, Ms Sturgeon,believed in the policy ?
The white sweatered eye rolling twonk is the last kind of women who speaks for me,or whom I could trust to speak for me. She too ought to have stopped twiddling with her corporate notepad and listened. Everyone of those people were free to listen,no one is going to shoot,torture or attack them,unlike women in other countries , but not one of the pathetic slugs could move out of their cosy culture of smuggery.
Just read the story in the Daily Record ( a popular tabloid in Scotland )!! That's the SECOND Time this newspaper has accurately reported a story about this subject ( it was puberty blockers a few weeks ago ! ) Usually they would report on a "woman "committing a sex crime and describe him as "she " etc and use phrases like " HER " penis , usually accompanied by a very telling photograph !!
Yes, well done her, she was brave and with no support or encouragement from the room. She's not some pearl clutching matron whose sensibilities have been offended, she's talking about women intentionally being made unsafe because they have no spaces.
She's talking about the women seated in front of her and every woman in Scotland and potentially everywhere in the UK. Sturgeon's feminism is the kind that ensures it doesn't disrupt men in whatever they want to do, or her own ambitions.
J.K. Rowling nailed it: "In spite of all careful precautions, the First Minister has been accidentally exposed to some freedom of speech. Heads will surely roll."
Self ID is not popular in Scotland. The heckler speaks for most people in Scotland. Sturgeon can crackdown on free speech all she likes but reality isn't going away.
Wasn't the woman concerned just fabulous, shame the others sat on their hands and did nothing. SHAME ON THEM. In the presence of that balding pervert dressed in a sari "re-education of raped and dv vuctims" to his way of thinking.
ScotGov followed the Dentons "under the radar and act like it's normal" approach to self ID. The women's crisis and refuge sector has long since been "cleansed" of real feminists and is now run by middle class gender studies grad types like you see here. Govt funded handmaids and a few blokes in dresses. Where women go to find safety now I don't honestly know. Leeds Women's Aid took Katie Dolatowski in so even crossing the border won't help.
I asked this question further up. This really does trouble me. We know the sector is compromised and has been for a while. We need ringfencing to ensure money raised goes to where it's supposed to and not filtered off to support the incomes and branding of those like Mridul and his inclushun and progreshun brigade under the guise of 'women's services' that patently aren't. But that's now been made illegal in effect and too many are scared of being accused of supporting their core population.
Those other women are an embarrassment. Especially the one in front, they should be ashamed.
They should, they're desperately trying to disassociate from her, fearing they'll be fending off accusations of terfery and witchcraft. I've watched this as part of an article in the Mail. A woman at the front who's presumably 'supposed' to be speaking, tried to suggest that what they've just heard this woman say is irrelevant, it's not what they're there for, this is just one thing, the one that's absolutely NOT up for discussion. She doesn't want the debate to focus on "this one antagonistic issue". But at the same time she wants a debate that "enables all our sisters in this room to feel safe and supported". And an enthusiastic round of applause follows. Seemingly, no one has noticed that they're in the process of showing no support whatsoever to a woman in the room who is talking about women's safety.
Yes, fucking shame on them, men are doing well enough at oppressing and harming women on their own, they dont need women to help them.
Probably doesn't even consider herself to be a woman.
Yes, they really did make fools of themselves.
Unacceptable, isn't it? Shame on all of them! How you doing Mum Fighting Back? Hope you're ok ❤
Is that what she's known as online?
Mum Fighting Back is one of us. First comment on this thread 👋👋👋
I'd love that woman to phone Kellie-Jay on Tuesday!
Yes, it was good to see plenty of disparaging comments on these awful women on Twitter
My favourite was “get them telt”
My favourite was ‘look at the utter balloon in the white jumper’
Yes that was quite funny. I’ve never heard it before.
Navel gazers.
Are you contributing to this? Good to have the voices of same sex attracted people.
https://www.engage.england.nhs.uk/specialised-commissioning/gender-dysphoria-services/
When Empress Nicola here preaches a cult diktat as an attempted putdown to BraveWoman's speech, 'What we SHOULDN'T do is further stigmatise a group of WOMEN who are already too stigmatised already' [sic], they all zealously cheer and clap. None can allow themselves to see the nakedness.
I despair at the determined blindness of these betrayers of their sex.
Stigmatised on account of being MEN, Nicola.
Here’s a tale. Not too long ago, some idiots at the top decided the world need a new socially progressive movement. Why not a death cult that confuses children, takes away women’s breasts, puts rapists in women’s prisons, castrates young men, offers criminals anonymity and extra 'rights', ruins endocrine systems, causes sterilization and anorgasmia, ignores science, and takes away free speech? Let’s see, what else? Oh yes, a cult that instills fear. Palpable, near insurmountable fear. One that ruins careers, offers an easy open gateway for paedophilia, erases women, controls media, destroys democracy, and tears apart families. One that smashes long established necessary safeguarding. That’s a big ask — but hats off to them — the idiots at the top did it. With barely any pushback. Done and dusted, around the world, in the backrooms of nearly every institution -- all without public input. Slowly, the people began to awaken and fight back, but by then, millions of lives had already been ruined.
Yeah and don't forget maid (medical assistance in dying) in Tranada. Some people claim that medical staff tried to coerce them into signing up for it. It's truly a Death Cult and many cults have ended in mass suicide 😭😱👎
The gift that keeps on giving. To the power elite.
The one you can see in a sari is the man who lied to get the job as head of Rape Crisis Edinburgh.
God Almighty, what are those women like? Are they what our foremothers fought in the streets for? This bunch of slavering handmaidens? Is this what we got the vote for? So that daft females could applaud another female who is determined to silence women and remove all their rights? Have they even bothered to look at Iran and Afghanistan? Is this how they want to end up? Fine by me, their choice, but they will not take me and mine, and all the others who genuinely object to this utter insanity, with them. Go and live over in those countries, why don't they, and see how females are treated. Marginally worse than gay people, and that's saying something when gay people are 'transitioned and/or killed if caught, as females are who step out of line, but at least gay people are not sold off to the highest bidder before puberty. Go there, ladies of the handmaiden sorority, and tell the mullahs and the Taliban how you advocate self-ID for heterosexual men who want to woman face into female identity and see if anyone claps.
The vile, porn-addled men who know exactly what they are doing, I loathe, but those women are beneath contempt because they are the enablers, along with Nicola Sturgeon and her cohort in the SNP who are destroying our rights, our society and everything that has any meaning in Scotland today. Of course 'trans' people need help, but the help they need is counselling and third spaces, not all of women's rights through self_ID. Nicola Sturgeon is being extremely economical with the truth when she says that the GRA Reform will have no effect on women and children. Of course, it will. If you make men into women IN LAW, then they become eligible for ALL female rights, spaces, etc. It will be illegal to keep them out - and Sturgeon knows that. She knows perfectly well.
A piece in 'The National' today has the temerity to suggest that there have been no repercussions for societies that have introduced self-ID, that no 'trans' women have used self-ID to harm females and children. Oh, is that right? Graham has spent the past several years pointing out the myriad ways in which men have used woman face to commit crimes against females and children. A veritable mountain of evidence exists. This falsehood that self-ID and woman face causes no harm to women and children needs to be quashed with evidence that they do lead the most determined men to use them as tools to gain advantage. Is the Scottish government a total bunch of idiots or are there still decent, level-headed people in it who do not support this dangerous and totally unevidenced nonsense. If there are, then speak up before it is too late because we see you and we will remove you. It might take time, but we will do it, either through elections or the courts, or both.
Well said. Totally agree.👍👏❤️
In the audience listening to Nicola Sturgeon, destroyer of women’s rights, was Mridhul Wadhwa the trans-identified man who runs the Edinburgh Rape Crisis Centre! I kid you not. Every one of the women in that audience who didn’t speak up in support of the heckler should be ashamed of themselves.
Women Won’t Wheesht. 💚🤍💜
I only just found out that it not only 'supports' transwomen, but also non-binary people - so men not even pretending to be women. Additionally, children 12-18 are expected to use the service!
At least make an effort and pop on a dress and some lippy, enbys! It really is the least they can do! Such utter shite...
Children aged 12-18, who have been exposed to male violence / male sexual violence... It's truly sick, isn't it? 😡😡😡
He's one shameless prick that man, isn't he?
Absolutely!
Yeah I spotted him. FFS! I don't know HOW Sturgeon sleeps at night...
Or who she sleeps with? 🤐
Not her ‘husband ‘ that’s for sure !
I’m so glad Alexa can’t see what I’m typing 🤣
She's a virgin
Reminds me of this. Did you see?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zKNg0gPV3ZY
I didn't! It's the casual nature of these TikToks I find sad. They really have abused this generation.
Notice the virginity bit?
I notice a trend with all these TikTok posters, fiddling around with their faces and hair or flapping their fins and fingers in our faces. Is it meant to distract because it certainly has that effect on me.
Very very well , she’s utterly shameless
Failed lawyer , failed politician , failed woman
Couldn’t give a crap about us
Fuck off with your wee (cheating ) French gf
Mandhul Wadhwa - Scottland's premier unqualified truama reframer
Experienced in causing trauma however.
Love that JK Rowling is highlighting this wonderful hero on Twitter!
https://mobile.twitter.com/jk_rowling/status/1597668739222474753?cxt=HHwWgsDQ4ZzQh6wsAAAA
Why did Ms Sturgeon not welcome the lady into the discussion and insist she was able to make her point from stage. Telling the audience to listen and then to try to explain why she, Ms Sturgeon,believed in the policy ?
The white sweatered eye rolling twonk is the last kind of women who speaks for me,or whom I could trust to speak for me. She too ought to have stopped twiddling with her corporate notepad and listened. Everyone of those people were free to listen,no one is going to shoot,torture or attack them,unlike women in other countries , but not one of the pathetic slugs could move out of their cosy culture of smuggery.
Just read the story in the Daily Record ( a popular tabloid in Scotland )!! That's the SECOND Time this newspaper has accurately reported a story about this subject ( it was puberty blockers a few weeks ago ! ) Usually they would report on a "woman "committing a sex crime and describe him as "she " etc and use phrases like " HER " penis , usually accompanied by a very telling photograph !!
Apparently the attendees were told beforehand not to ask questions about single sex spaces
Well done that brave lady , our ‘feminist to her fingertips’ FMs pus was priceless
Yes, well done her, she was brave and with no support or encouragement from the room. She's not some pearl clutching matron whose sensibilities have been offended, she's talking about women intentionally being made unsafe because they have no spaces.
She's talking about the women seated in front of her and every woman in Scotland and potentially everywhere in the UK. Sturgeon's feminism is the kind that ensures it doesn't disrupt men in whatever they want to do, or her own ambitions.
The other women (plus at least one extra ) disgusted me
And the fact that they cheered when she was removed was truly despicable
Correct me if I’m wrong but was this not a speech about violence against women ?
Sturgeon , hotel room , iron ……… allegedly ,redacted !
Edinburgh Hotel room???
I cannot say , but it’s pretty common knowledge , huge super injunction
Probably where all the ‘ring fenced ‘ £600,000 went for Indy
The (bal)moral of the story. 😚
The third clip where all the other women whoop and clap as the brave woman is removed?!? Under his eye.
J.K. Rowling nailed it: "In spite of all careful precautions, the First Minister has been accidentally exposed to some freedom of speech. Heads will surely roll."
Self ID is not popular in Scotland. The heckler speaks for most people in Scotland. Sturgeon can crackdown on free speech all she likes but reality isn't going away.
I love how they cannot keep women in Scotland down. We just keep coming
You are doing brilliant, against adversity!!!!
Please could you put it on YouTube as a short stand-alone video.
It’s already there. I think For women Scotland put it up.
Yes just checked and it’s on YouTube under Shame on you Nicola Sturgeon.
Apparently JK has sent her a crate of Champagne!!! LOVE IT!
The passive aggressive faces of the privileged is something to behold. Zero self awareness from our public servants
Wasn't the woman concerned just fabulous, shame the others sat on their hands and did nothing. SHAME ON THEM. In the presence of that balding pervert dressed in a sari "re-education of raped and dv vuctims" to his way of thinking.
ScotGov followed the Dentons "under the radar and act like it's normal" approach to self ID. The women's crisis and refuge sector has long since been "cleansed" of real feminists and is now run by middle class gender studies grad types like you see here. Govt funded handmaids and a few blokes in dresses. Where women go to find safety now I don't honestly know. Leeds Women's Aid took Katie Dolatowski in so even crossing the border won't help.
I asked this question further up. This really does trouble me. We know the sector is compromised and has been for a while. We need ringfencing to ensure money raised goes to where it's supposed to and not filtered off to support the incomes and branding of those like Mridul and his inclushun and progreshun brigade under the guise of 'women's services' that patently aren't. But that's now been made illegal in effect and too many are scared of being accused of supporting their core population.