In case anyone is wondering, he has photographed himself holding up a copy of Terry Pratchett's 'The Colour of Magic', as if in gleeful and proud agreement with TP's daughter's recent announcement about him 'not being GC' - and about which Graham has written earlier this week.
It seemed almost rude not to retouch Helen Joyce's tremendous book into Tiny Owen's sausage-fingered hands.
Yes, I think there is zero chance that Tiny Owen will look at, and accept, good evidence that this ideology is damaging people in certain situations... and affecting negatively, life for the majority, at least potentially so... and even remotely think about changing his mind. Ideologues do not change their minds from entrenched, dogmatic world views at all. After all, his career now depends on it.
Yes indeed, me too! In fact that album, 'Will Suck Sausage for Socialism', was one the the few truly great albums in the now defunct, yet still-influential genre of 'Post-rock electro-folk prog-jazz-Cajun shoe gazing baroque', which we all know and love so much.
Sadly, by their third album, 'A Confederacy of Sarkars', they began to lose their direction, and sadly slipped by the wayside and floundered on the rocks of mediocrity.
Jeremy Corbyn's favourite band at one time. Which didn't help matters, clearly.
do you think he would understand the science stuff if he did actually read it? i mean helen joyce is not just a journalist for the economist but a top statistician, - maybe if a book/zine with as strong an argument, but disguised as a narrative about 'fighting the system' needs to be written for him to care and understand exactly what is happening to real actual women! (as he is a child of the 'militant tendency' - the shouting and the political cultiness of transactivism is probably attractive).
yes i see what you are saying, and on his medium site he says his mum was a feminist, and that both his parents eventually got 'tired' of the political work. i think because he was the working class writer who actually challenged the media's demonisation of wc people as just 'chavs', its hard to see him supporting the strange elite of transactivists/and their big business buddies, (and not supporting gender-critical/porn-critical lesbians/feminists/women). gay and straight men will have to support the transexuals/tims when the backlash happens, because old women are really struggling to get along. but my bitching (above) is really about the politicing methods of small poltical groups (not just in the far left) and how they aim to seize power, not only are they unrealistic in their aims, can't handle any critique, but most importantly may be too invested in their beliefs/ideals to be aware of cultlike leadership.
Where did he say he was going to debate Helen Joyce? I just perused his Twitter (I almost never read Twitter, as I find it a clusterfuck and hard to follow), and all I see him saying is that he WILL NOT debate a cis person about trans rights (even on the subject of how they conflct with women's right), because it's "like two white people discussing the rights of black people" (or something like that).
Did I miss some place where he said he would actually debate Joyce, or any non-trans person, on the subject of trans rights?
I don't see Graham replying to this thread saying so - whose post are you referring to? Also, I sort by Chronological, so "above" can mean 2 different things depending on sort order. :-)
Thing is, he himself is "cis" and so, by his own logic, he can't discuss anything about trans either.
It's kind of sickening how he got famous by promoting gay rights and now he advocates removing them and transing the gay away in children to further his own career. What a fraud.
I'm confused - are YOU Graham? I get confused by posts here, because I thought everything's being posted by Graham, and then see it's someone else, but...?
Hello! Apologies, I seem to have confused you earlier.... I didn't mean to! I see the layout of posts differently - that is now obvious.
No, I am not Graham, I assure you! I am just someone who helps out around here really. No-one at all, no-one of note. I did the retouch Graham used it.
Thanks for the explanation! I wondered if perhaps Graham used a different name when posting here, that's what confused me (and the sorting thing :-) ).
The 'no debate' strategy and "love wins" hashtag is why so few people, in relative terms, are being peaked.
But the little boy (that's Jones, btw 😁) can't keep his finger in the dyke (matron!) forever. The truth will out ... eventually. But Jesus it's a long grind 😕
In case anyone is wondering, he has photographed himself holding up a copy of Terry Pratchett's 'The Colour of Magic', as if in gleeful and proud agreement with TP's daughter's recent announcement about him 'not being GC' - and about which Graham has written earlier this week.
It seemed almost rude not to retouch Helen Joyce's tremendous book into Tiny Owen's sausage-fingered hands.
I mean, I assume so - whoever did it...
Damn! I actually believed that one.
Me too but couldn't understand why it wasn't being seen as a likely ambush on Helen or some such 😂. Well done, Moley 👏🏆🙄
🙂
Ever so kind of you, Moley.
Almost had me Moley, but something just didn't seem right... something about leopards and spots...
Yes, I think there is zero chance that Tiny Owen will look at, and accept, good evidence that this ideology is damaging people in certain situations... and affecting negatively, life for the majority, at least potentially so... and even remotely think about changing his mind. Ideologues do not change their minds from entrenched, dogmatic world views at all. After all, his career now depends on it.
Tiny Owen's Sausage-Fingered Hands. I loved their first album...
Yes indeed, me too! In fact that album, 'Will Suck Sausage for Socialism', was one the the few truly great albums in the now defunct, yet still-influential genre of 'Post-rock electro-folk prog-jazz-Cajun shoe gazing baroque', which we all know and love so much.
Sadly, by their third album, 'A Confederacy of Sarkars', they began to lose their direction, and sadly slipped by the wayside and floundered on the rocks of mediocrity.
Jeremy Corbyn's favourite band at one time. Which didn't help matters, clearly.
"tiny Owen's sausage-fingered hands" 😂😂😂 Mole you’re a tonic (....erm.... or whoever did it...)
Well... It's my job, I suppose! 🙂
I think the valuable "tonic" job is probably undervalued & underpaid 😜
It's 'paid'? 😜
I THOUGHT NOT
I can vouch for the fact that it is not a paid post!
Ugh he’s such a smug, sanctimonious little gobshite. Tedious man.
I’m called Emma and fully agree with your statement!
I think a lot do!
If only
I need a trigger warning whenever anyone mentions that man. "You know who", "The Dark Lord" either of those is fine.... 😂
Little Lord Fauntleroy, more like 😠
do you think he would understand the science stuff if he did actually read it? i mean helen joyce is not just a journalist for the economist but a top statistician, - maybe if a book/zine with as strong an argument, but disguised as a narrative about 'fighting the system' needs to be written for him to care and understand exactly what is happening to real actual women! (as he is a child of the 'militant tendency' - the shouting and the political cultiness of transactivism is probably attractive).
Sorry was he not born of woman? That would make SO much sense. Could believe he was born to a “militant tendency” with no loving parental attachment.
yes i see what you are saying, and on his medium site he says his mum was a feminist, and that both his parents eventually got 'tired' of the political work. i think because he was the working class writer who actually challenged the media's demonisation of wc people as just 'chavs', its hard to see him supporting the strange elite of transactivists/and their big business buddies, (and not supporting gender-critical/porn-critical lesbians/feminists/women). gay and straight men will have to support the transexuals/tims when the backlash happens, because old women are really struggling to get along. but my bitching (above) is really about the politicing methods of small poltical groups (not just in the far left) and how they aim to seize power, not only are they unrealistic in their aims, can't handle any critique, but most importantly may be too invested in their beliefs/ideals to be aware of cultlike leadership.
This WILL be interesting.
Where did he say he was going to debate Helen Joyce? I just perused his Twitter (I almost never read Twitter, as I find it a clusterfuck and hard to follow), and all I see him saying is that he WILL NOT debate a cis person about trans rights (even on the subject of how they conflct with women's right), because it's "like two white people discussing the rights of black people" (or something like that).
Did I miss some place where he said he would actually debate Joyce, or any non-trans person, on the subject of trans rights?
It’s a photoshop job I’m afraid
Well that's a shame :-(
Does Graham know that, and he's just bein' funny?
Answer is above!
I don't see Graham replying to this thread saying so - whose post are you referring to? Also, I sort by Chronological, so "above" can mean 2 different things depending on sort order. :-)
I was replying to you... The answer is in my post above.
Not when sorted chronologically it's not. There's nothing from you above my post. There's something from you BELOW my post, however.
Thing is, he himself is "cis" and so, by his own logic, he can't discuss anything about trans either.
It's kind of sickening how he got famous by promoting gay rights and now he advocates removing them and transing the gay away in children to further his own career. What a fraud.
🙌🏻
I can't read his tweets anyway - he blocks anyone with a modicum of sense.
I do, don't worry. 😎
Moley! You had me fooled 🙄😂
Sorry! 🙂
I'm confused - are YOU Graham? I get confused by posts here, because I thought everything's being posted by Graham, and then see it's someone else, but...?
Hello! Apologies, I seem to have confused you earlier.... I didn't mean to! I see the layout of posts differently - that is now obvious.
No, I am not Graham, I assure you! I am just someone who helps out around here really. No-one at all, no-one of note. I did the retouch Graham used it.
Thanks for the explanation! I wondered if perhaps Graham used a different name when posting here, that's what confused me (and the sorting thing :-) ).
Again, I am sorry if I confused you - I was trying to be not too obvious of the overall joke really!
No, Graham posts under his own name - if he comments it will appear in a coloured box. It will be obvious when you see it!
Got it - thanks again!
The 'no debate' strategy and "love wins" hashtag is why so few people, in relative terms, are being peaked.
But the little boy (that's Jones, btw 😁) can't keep his finger in the dyke (matron!) forever. The truth will out ... eventually. But Jesus it's a long grind 😕
I had to check the news to see if either pigs started flying or hell had frozen over.
Well I never!
Mosley?
Do you mean me by any chance? 🙂
I think he has some shit on his finger nails.
And it isn't chocolate.