What a bunch of numpties. There is an additional question on gender identity, which asks "Is the gender you identify with the same as your sex registered at birth?"
Options are yes or no with a space to write your gender identity. And it's optional to answer of course.
But by lying about the sex question, and then either not filling in the gender identity question or giving a silly answer, they are erasing the number of trans people, and possibly reducing any resources that might be allocated for them.
Exactly this! They'd rather 'get one over' on women and chase that all-important validation rather than record any meaningful data about trans people which might actually improve services, healthcare etc. Just goes to show that for the vocal trans activists, 'trans rights' is just about fucking over women.
I had fun just now Tweeting the personal account @KathrynBristow as follows:
"But you are not female. It is biologically impossible to change sex and you have stated on this T a/c that you do not hold a GNC. You are therefore giving false information. @ONS
Would you please like to investigate? This is exactly the situation which GC feminists foresaw."
I await another suspension.... OR not. I don't see how interpreting correctly information which has been provided can constitute any kind of offence?!
Oh nice! (Hope it doesn't get you suspended, though.) These idiots are doing our work for us. We're told nobody would ever claim a female identity for nefarious, predatory or fraudulent purposes... yet here are some of the movement's prominent voice crowing about doing lying on a national census. "Out of belligerence"?? Tells us all we need to know.
As if it costs anything for two boxes to go on a form. Does anyone else just feel vaguely dirty after reading and viewing their male sexist filth? That abuse and erasure of women in another form has reached the top echelons of our institutions is so shocking it’s hard to fathom but simply proves how little good sense there is there and how disrespected and disregarded women as a class really are. As if we needed to absorb even more neglect and vicious abuse to prove it. At least in the UK it’s been caught after more effort women can ill afford at the very last minute. Another battle women simply shouldn’t have had to fight if the powers that be represented us, as 51 percent of the population, at all. A male sexist sexual delusion and fantasy can get further than women’s basic human and legal rights without a single impediment in the way to stop it. Tragic inditement on Governments enabling this ideology everywhere. Some things need to be stopped for all our safety and well-being.
Precisely, Kath. It speaks volumes about their male entitlement and narcissism that they can be crowing and smirking about this all over social media. That they have so little respect for an entire (and separate!) class of people they publicly show off about lying on a legal document. Imagine what would happen if they were showing off they'd falsified their race or their disabled status etc. I know it won't happen but I'd love it if they were all slapped with the £1000 fine for submitting false data!
' Kathryn Bristow describes himself as a “Polyam ace pan enby woman” '
Think I pulled a muscle rolling my eyes too hard after reading his self-description. Kudos on the number of contradictions he managed in one short statement though.
What a bunch of numpties. There is an additional question on gender identity, which asks "Is the gender you identify with the same as your sex registered at birth?"
Options are yes or no with a space to write your gender identity. And it's optional to answer of course.
But by lying about the sex question, and then either not filling in the gender identity question or giving a silly answer, they are erasing the number of trans people, and possibly reducing any resources that might be allocated for them.
Talk about an own-goal.
Exactly this! They'd rather 'get one over' on women and chase that all-important validation rather than record any meaningful data about trans people which might actually improve services, healthcare etc. Just goes to show that for the vocal trans activists, 'trans rights' is just about fucking over women.
Yes, that's why I refuse to call them TRAs; they're not interested in rights.
As someone said "enjoy your erasure". Not sure they'd thought that through.
No, I don't think critical thought is Shon's strong suit!
I had fun just now Tweeting the personal account @KathrynBristow as follows:
"But you are not female. It is biologically impossible to change sex and you have stated on this T a/c that you do not hold a GNC. You are therefore giving false information. @ONS
Would you please like to investigate? This is exactly the situation which GC feminists foresaw."
I await another suspension.... OR not. I don't see how interpreting correctly information which has been provided can constitute any kind of offence?!
Oh nice! (Hope it doesn't get you suspended, though.) These idiots are doing our work for us. We're told nobody would ever claim a female identity for nefarious, predatory or fraudulent purposes... yet here are some of the movement's prominent voice crowing about doing lying on a national census. "Out of belligerence"?? Tells us all we need to know.
As if it costs anything for two boxes to go on a form. Does anyone else just feel vaguely dirty after reading and viewing their male sexist filth? That abuse and erasure of women in another form has reached the top echelons of our institutions is so shocking it’s hard to fathom but simply proves how little good sense there is there and how disrespected and disregarded women as a class really are. As if we needed to absorb even more neglect and vicious abuse to prove it. At least in the UK it’s been caught after more effort women can ill afford at the very last minute. Another battle women simply shouldn’t have had to fight if the powers that be represented us, as 51 percent of the population, at all. A male sexist sexual delusion and fantasy can get further than women’s basic human and legal rights without a single impediment in the way to stop it. Tragic inditement on Governments enabling this ideology everywhere. Some things need to be stopped for all our safety and well-being.
Precisely, Kath. It speaks volumes about their male entitlement and narcissism that they can be crowing and smirking about this all over social media. That they have so little respect for an entire (and separate!) class of people they publicly show off about lying on a legal document. Imagine what would happen if they were showing off they'd falsified their race or their disabled status etc. I know it won't happen but I'd love it if they were all slapped with the £1000 fine for submitting false data!
I really hope Fair Play for Women have seen these tweets so they can have them presented to court
Hi Janey. Good call. Pretty sure they will have done but I'll make sure!
Brilliant! I would but currently banned innit..
Oh no! Hope it's only temporary.
Just read on Mumsnet the courts have decided the sex question must be answered accurately. Don't lose those screenshots! 😁
The head of the ONS was less than honest when discussing the census on Marr this morning:
https://twitter.com/BBCPolitics/status/1371033912680534016
Oh yes, I saw that! He's a slippery one, all right.
https://twitter.com/fairplaywomen/status/1371043937549422593?s=20
' Kathryn Bristow describes himself as a “Polyam ace pan enby woman” '
Think I pulled a muscle rolling my eyes too hard after reading his self-description. Kudos on the number of contradictions he managed in one short statement though.
so the ONS was spanked BUT how does this change every single census survey already done and the ones waiting for sunday?
https://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/4194262-FPFW-ONS-concede-defeat