Such cognitive dissonance is so hard to understand. Unbelievable that so many gay men support Stonewall's " "trans " ideology. Don't they realise that TQ+++ is the most homophobic movement we've ever seen ,and to attack the LGB Alliance for trying to protect the health of gay men just beggars belief!🤔 This ideology is destroying the human brain , that's for sure.🤮💔😢😭
The idea seems to be that anything LGB Alliance says even if it is true or wise and even if it is saying nothing whatever about trans people, must be bigoted because it's the LGB Alliance saying it! Definitely brain rot.
Yes, utterly incomprehensible. If I've read this correctly what we seem to have here is apparently homophobic homosexuals, accusing a charity set up and organised to promote the interests and well being of gay and lesbian people of being homophobic. ???
I just don't believe that Owen Jones genuinely believes the LGB Alliance would do something to stigmatise gay & bisexual men. I think on some level he knows he's backed the wrong horse and there's nothing else to do but just try and style it out.
As Arty put it in the recent Mess; there are some people who can't afford to entertain certain ideas, because that might mean agreeing with people whom they've spent the last few years trying to portray as hateful bigots.
The only reasonable alternative is to believe that Owen Jones is deeply cynical, and happy to throw gay men under the bus at every opportunity if it means he gets paid.
Look at OJ or that woman at Stonewall: They bought into society's view of homosexuals as horrible, diseased people, and they have never stopped hating themselves. What there is no excuse for is their hatred for their fellow homosexuals.
He doesn't believe it, but he's willing to exploit anyone and any opportunity if he sees it as advantageous to him. Maybe he does know he's digging himself into a hole, but he's relying on the prejudice, hostility and stupidity of others to prevent him from getting buried. Let's hope his strategy stops working.
Patrick Harvie is one of my regional MSPs. I had so much time for him when he was first elected, then he completely lost the plot. Power does that! He is a daft wee man who needs to get back in his box. When others say such things about him, all the toys come out of the pram, but he feels he is in the right to judge others.
What the LGB Alliance said makes sense. It is about breaking a cycle of disease. I lived through AIDS and cared for both male and female friends who died from the disease. It was a very upsetting time, but getting friends to change at least some of their behaviours meant that they are still with us. This is what the LGB Alliance are suggesting...
Patrick seems to think the LGB Alliance is "evil" as it doesn't support "T". Such a sad wee man!
Didn’t something similar happen at the very beginning of the AIDS crisis in nyc? A gay activist was trying to raise awareness about the virus and the prevailing reaction was to shun him for stigmatizing gay men. The movie “A Normal Heart” is all about it, as is the book “ The Band Played On”
A lot of people think that the treatment for AIDS, AZT, was a lot worse than the symptoms that they were presenting with. The inventor of the PCR test, Kary Mullis (died 2019), didn't even believe in AIDS. He basically said that Anthony Fauci was a liar. And Anthony got a million a year for his "AIDS" research.
That movie and the non fiction book aren’t about treatments. They are about the start of the spread of HIV in the US, before there were any treatments and before the public knew much about what was happening. “The Band Played on” is by gay reporter Randy Shilts, who tried to sound the alarm and get gay bath houses to shut down to slow the spread of the disease. He was harshly criticized due to an aversion to anything that could stigmatize the gay community. Very similar to what LGB Alliance is going through.
Shilts was a journalist, not a virologist or scientist. He was trying to sound the alarm in the gay community and was silenced by activists who also weren’t virologists nor scientists. It’s sort of a non sequiter to say his view of how HIV spread was disputed by a few scientists, because that’s not what he was. The LGB Alliance aren’t a group of virus researchers, either. They are a group noticing a phenomenon and trying to warn people, and then being criticized for being impolitic.
Those men are a disgrace. They appear so full of hatred, I don't know how they get through the day. They understand who it affects, they just want others to know.
You might like to know that millions of people worldwide carry the HIV and are perfectly healthy. There are people with AIDS who are HIV-positive and people who are HIV-negative. It seems there needs to be something else to trigger HIV into becoming serious OR HIV may have little to do with developing AIDS. There are a number of theories and Kennedy explores three of them in The Real Anthony Fauci.
I've finally followed Ben Cohen. There are very few people who are so consistently and reliably wrong and STILL get a wide hearing. He must be cherished as a compass needle that always points in the opposite direction from the one we should be going in.
I don't think that I've met Ben but his other sideline is an accountancy firm called Wisteria. We used to be a client. It runs from the same premises as Pink News.
Such cognitive dissonance is so hard to understand. Unbelievable that so many gay men support Stonewall's " "trans " ideology. Don't they realise that TQ+++ is the most homophobic movement we've ever seen ,and to attack the LGB Alliance for trying to protect the health of gay men just beggars belief!🤔 This ideology is destroying the human brain , that's for sure.🤮💔😢😭
The idea seems to be that anything LGB Alliance says even if it is true or wise and even if it is saying nothing whatever about trans people, must be bigoted because it's the LGB Alliance saying it! Definitely brain rot.
Yes, utterly incomprehensible. If I've read this correctly what we seem to have here is apparently homophobic homosexuals, accusing a charity set up and organised to promote the interests and well being of gay and lesbian people of being homophobic. ???
Correct. You read it right. Hard to believe they don't get it. Too far down the rabbit hole 🤮🤬👎
Thanks for sharing this. The more information is in the public domain about this virus, how it seems to spread, where etc, the better.
Spreads by jab.
I just don't believe that Owen Jones genuinely believes the LGB Alliance would do something to stigmatise gay & bisexual men. I think on some level he knows he's backed the wrong horse and there's nothing else to do but just try and style it out.
As Arty put it in the recent Mess; there are some people who can't afford to entertain certain ideas, because that might mean agreeing with people whom they've spent the last few years trying to portray as hateful bigots.
The only reasonable alternative is to believe that Owen Jones is deeply cynical, and happy to throw gay men under the bus at every opportunity if it means he gets paid.
Look at OJ or that woman at Stonewall: They bought into society's view of homosexuals as horrible, diseased people, and they have never stopped hating themselves. What there is no excuse for is their hatred for their fellow homosexuals.
He doesn't believe it, but he's willing to exploit anyone and any opportunity if he sees it as advantageous to him. Maybe he does know he's digging himself into a hole, but he's relying on the prejudice, hostility and stupidity of others to prevent him from getting buried. Let's hope his strategy stops working.
What a nightmare. Bloody hell.
Patrick Harvie is one of my regional MSPs. I had so much time for him when he was first elected, then he completely lost the plot. Power does that! He is a daft wee man who needs to get back in his box. When others say such things about him, all the toys come out of the pram, but he feels he is in the right to judge others.
What the LGB Alliance said makes sense. It is about breaking a cycle of disease. I lived through AIDS and cared for both male and female friends who died from the disease. It was a very upsetting time, but getting friends to change at least some of their behaviours meant that they are still with us. This is what the LGB Alliance are suggesting...
Patrick seems to think the LGB Alliance is "evil" as it doesn't support "T". Such a sad wee man!
Regrettably he is one of mine too and as a trans widow he has never been on my list!
I think they're wrong on this one. The T part is the bit that they got right.
How can people see what they are posting as anything other than safeguarding homosexual men? Standing with the LGB Alliance all the way.
Didn’t something similar happen at the very beginning of the AIDS crisis in nyc? A gay activist was trying to raise awareness about the virus and the prevailing reaction was to shun him for stigmatizing gay men. The movie “A Normal Heart” is all about it, as is the book “ The Band Played On”
A lot of people think that the treatment for AIDS, AZT, was a lot worse than the symptoms that they were presenting with. The inventor of the PCR test, Kary Mullis (died 2019), didn't even believe in AIDS. He basically said that Anthony Fauci was a liar. And Anthony got a million a year for his "AIDS" research.
https://plebeianresistance.substack.com/p/tony-fauci-is-a-pos?s=w
That movie and the non fiction book aren’t about treatments. They are about the start of the spread of HIV in the US, before there were any treatments and before the public knew much about what was happening. “The Band Played on” is by gay reporter Randy Shilts, who tried to sound the alarm and get gay bath houses to shut down to slow the spread of the disease. He was harshly criticized due to an aversion to anything that could stigmatize the gay community. Very similar to what LGB Alliance is going through.
They're a view of one person of the spread of HIV in the US.
Kary Mullis had quite a different view.
Shilts was a journalist, not a virologist or scientist. He was trying to sound the alarm in the gay community and was silenced by activists who also weren’t virologists nor scientists. It’s sort of a non sequiter to say his view of how HIV spread was disputed by a few scientists, because that’s not what he was. The LGB Alliance aren’t a group of virus researchers, either. They are a group noticing a phenomenon and trying to warn people, and then being criticized for being impolitic.
I'm criticizing them for being wrong. As Shilts was. The only question is why are they wrong. Is it innocent or malicious?
I don’t think he was wrong at all.
This is the sex trade arcing up. And Ben Cohen? Let me guess... Prick News relies on advertising dollars received from the sex industry?
I'm going to call you a "SWERF" and stick my fingers in my ears now.
"SWERF" is meaningless gibberish.
Jones, Cohen and Harvie all have gay blood on their hands.
Those men are a disgrace. They appear so full of hatred, I don't know how they get through the day. They understand who it affects, they just want others to know.
So they were trying to warn people of a virus spreading quickly in gay communities... like you know... HIV... and they've been punished for it? Woah.
And even if you don't agree with their idea about bars closing, they're entitled to their opinion and should not be silenced for it.
You might like to know that millions of people worldwide carry the HIV and are perfectly healthy. There are people with AIDS who are HIV-positive and people who are HIV-negative. It seems there needs to be something else to trigger HIV into becoming serious OR HIV may have little to do with developing AIDS. There are a number of theories and Kennedy explores three of them in The Real Anthony Fauci.
I've finally followed Ben Cohen. There are very few people who are so consistently and reliably wrong and STILL get a wide hearing. He must be cherished as a compass needle that always points in the opposite direction from the one we should be going in.
I don't think that I've met Ben but his other sideline is an accountancy firm called Wisteria. We used to be a client. It runs from the same premises as Pink News.
We didn't know anything about his pink news at the time.
God I long for the bygone years of lesbians and gays , loved them all, this mob , nah not so much
Thanks for posting this
They are so blinkered by their own prejudice. It is quite something to see.
It seems they would rather not see sensible public health measures put in solely because LGB Alliance called for it.
The are hypocrites. It’s just all
such BS and so apparent.