Such cognitive dissonance is so hard to understand. Unbelievable that so many gay men support Stonewall's " "trans " ideology. Don't they realise that TQ+++ is the most homophobic movement we've ever seen ,and to attack the LGB Alliance for trying to protect the health of gay men just beggars belief!🤔 This ideology is destroying the human brain , that's for sure.🤮💔😢😭
The idea seems to be that anything LGB Alliance says even if it is true or wise and even if it is saying nothing whatever about trans people, must be bigoted because it's the LGB Alliance saying it! Definitely brain rot.
Yes, utterly incomprehensible. If I've read this correctly what we seem to have here is apparently homophobic homosexuals, accusing a charity set up and organised to promote the interests and well being of gay and lesbian people of being homophobic. ???
Patrick Harvie is one of my regional MSPs. I had so much time for him when he was first elected, then he completely lost the plot. Power does that! He is a daft wee man who needs to get back in his box. When others say such things about him, all the toys come out of the pram, but he feels he is in the right to judge others.
What the LGB Alliance said makes sense. It is about breaking a cycle of disease. I lived through AIDS and cared for both male and female friends who died from the disease. It was a very upsetting time, but getting friends to change at least some of their behaviours meant that they are still with us. This is what the LGB Alliance are suggesting...
Patrick seems to think the LGB Alliance is "evil" as it doesn't support "T". Such a sad wee man!
Didn’t something similar happen at the very beginning of the AIDS crisis in nyc? A gay activist was trying to raise awareness about the virus and the prevailing reaction was to shun him for stigmatizing gay men. The movie “A Normal Heart” is all about it, as is the book “ The Band Played On”
A lot of people think that the treatment for AIDS, AZT, was a lot worse than the symptoms that they were presenting with. The inventor of the PCR test, Kary Mullis (died 2019), didn't even believe in AIDS. He basically said that Anthony Fauci was a liar. And Anthony got a million a year for his "AIDS" research.
That movie and the non fiction book aren’t about treatments. They are about the start of the spread of HIV in the US, before there were any treatments and before the public knew much about what was happening. “The Band Played on” is by gay reporter Randy Shilts, who tried to sound the alarm and get gay bath houses to shut down to slow the spread of the disease. He was harshly criticized due to an aversion to anything that could stigmatize the gay community. Very similar to what LGB Alliance is going through.
Shilts was a journalist, not a virologist or scientist. He was trying to sound the alarm in the gay community and was silenced by activists who also weren’t virologists nor scientists. It’s sort of a non sequiter to say his view of how HIV spread was disputed by a few scientists, because that’s not what he was. The LGB Alliance aren’t a group of virus researchers, either. They are a group noticing a phenomenon and trying to warn people, and then being criticized for being impolitic.
Those men are a disgrace. They appear so full of hatred, I don't know how they get through the day. They understand who it affects, they just want others to know.
You might like to know that millions of people worldwide carry the HIV and are perfectly healthy. There are people with AIDS who are HIV-positive and people who are HIV-negative. It seems there needs to be something else to trigger HIV into becoming serious OR HIV may have little to do with developing AIDS. There are a number of theories and Kennedy explores three of them in The Real Anthony Fauci.
I've finally followed Ben Cohen. There are very few people who are so consistently and reliably wrong and STILL get a wide hearing. He must be cherished as a compass needle that always points in the opposite direction from the one we should be going in.
I don't think that I've met Ben but his other sideline is an accountancy firm called Wisteria. We used to be a client. It runs from the same premises as Pink News.
How are the LGB Alliance a promotor of viruses when they are calling for measures to halt it's spread? And "looks to be Shingles"? Shingles and Covid are caused by completely different viruses. Covid vaccinations cannot cause Shingles unless they are not a vaccination for Covid and are in fact a shot of chickenpox. Something Pharma would not get rich on.
There are no wrongs in my post. I do not need "educating" on anti-science. Covid and Shingles are completely different viruses. Prove me wrong. I want to see hard, peer reviewed evidence from a reputable source.
I'll address your flippant use of P.S. (presumably employed to make a point) - the viruses do exist. I've had one, many of my friends and relations had chickenpox and I know people that have had Covid. You can't pick and choose what you want to exisit just to fit in with your opinions. Now to address your main point - What has religion got to do with this?! No, they would not be good enough! I'm going to stop conversing with you now as you clearly have no evidence to back up your assertions if you think that the Pope is a scientist and that you have presented me with some kind of a "Gotcha" in mentioning religion. Have a good day.
Galileo was the allusion. Modern 'science' is more like a religion than science. You can see this in the transgender activists ie. "there is no debate". But you can also see it in the refusal of many to see the maliciousness that is behind the vaccination agenda of the last two years.
From what I’ve read, people may be getting shingles after contracting covid, because of an immunological weakening. That is how people usually get shingles, apparently. In middle to old age, with a weakened immune system, it occurs in people who had chicken pox years before when fighting off another illness. The reports of it happening after the Covid vaccine exist, and it’s unknown if the vaccine could somehow trigger it in a few people or if it’s a coincidence- millions of people have been vaccinated, millions get shingles, so there’s some inevitability there.
Pharma companies have a huge incentive to push drugs and vaccines, but on the other hand, we need really need drugs and vaccines. It seems plausible that gah bath houses and kink festivals might easily be places where an infectious disease that isn’t airborne can tend to spread. Observing that is a neutral fact.
If there's more harm caused by taking drugs and vaccines then we don't really need drugs and vaccines. This is clearly the case with vaccines so by your measure they're gone and I fully agree that vaccines should go as in my view they're a tool of war. Then the case becomes is there more harm caused by drugs overall than they prevent and here too I think the case is that yes there's more harm caused. It's not quite so simple as unlike vaccines drugs do have some benefits but I think you'll find that on a population wide basis the harms done outweigh the benefits.
No, just get the shingles vaccine when you’re eligible and don’t worry about getting the disease after Covid, after another vaccine, or anything else. Vaccines are glorious.
Big pharma deserves to be denounced and much more, LGB Alliance does not. It hasn't said or suggested anything controversial, and it hasn't 'demanded' anything, contrary to what Owen Jones said.
Owen Jones is a toad and if he's ever right it's an accident. I agree with you about big pharma which is a pox on civilization but LGB alliance should not be above criticism.
Nothing and no one is above criticism, including the LGB Alliance. Criticism is often highly subjective, which should be fine, it doesn't need to be objectively right or fair, but it's helpful when it's rational.
In this instance, I don't think the motives of the LGB Alliance, or anything they did or said is worthy of criticism. As far as Jones is concerned it's an organisation shouldn't exist, so everything he says is a reflection of that. He applies the same to whatever and whoever he disagrees with. Though he's not really capable of thinking in those terms, he tends to opt for bullying, venom and spite.
Let's ignore Jones. He's irrelevant anyway. A right prick.
I disagree with you about what LGB Alliance has suggested here and for the first time it has me asking about their motivations. I don't believe that 'monkeypox' is transmissible. I also think that viruses (or germs) are a 100+ year wrong turn in medicine. That's at best. At worst they're a product of the war industry.
So to me closing down these gay venues is absolutely unnecessary from a health point of view (as has been everything done re the "covid-19" staging) and from that pov it also looks to be somewhat moralizing.
My understanding (rightly or wrongly) is that monkeypox is spread primarily by bodily fluid and usually clears up without treatment. The experimental gene-based jabs can cause shingles, which monkeypox superficially resembles, by means of immune suppression. For my money, Joseph Mercola has summarised the situation well in Dr Mercola's Censored Library Substack. There is a paywall, but it's a good resource. My view is that what is being promoted by pharma is one-size-fits-all big bucks patentable (in many cases very dodgy) treatments of various kinds for every illness. Some of those treatments are of some use for some people (though rarely without downsides) but most serious illness is avoidable. Info about genuinely healthy diets and lifestyles is actively supressed and derided by big food and big pharma, but it's out there if you look for it.
I don't know enough about monkeypox to have a strong view on its spread but I'm certainly of the view that it's related to the vaccines of the last few years.
I'm currently reading the book in my profile. Pharmaceutical companies have been a very big problem since the 1990s and I guess the rot started earlier when some mid 1980s law changes in the States likely kicked off the current status of that industry. I don't think that it's very capitalist either to just charge what you want for a supposed medicine or vaccine and let the Government cover you for that but that has been the business model since the 1990s. If we put them out of business we'd, as a society, be better off.
Such cognitive dissonance is so hard to understand. Unbelievable that so many gay men support Stonewall's " "trans " ideology. Don't they realise that TQ+++ is the most homophobic movement we've ever seen ,and to attack the LGB Alliance for trying to protect the health of gay men just beggars belief!🤔 This ideology is destroying the human brain , that's for sure.🤮💔😢😭
The idea seems to be that anything LGB Alliance says even if it is true or wise and even if it is saying nothing whatever about trans people, must be bigoted because it's the LGB Alliance saying it! Definitely brain rot.
Yes, utterly incomprehensible. If I've read this correctly what we seem to have here is apparently homophobic homosexuals, accusing a charity set up and organised to promote the interests and well being of gay and lesbian people of being homophobic. ???
Correct. You read it right. Hard to believe they don't get it. Too far down the rabbit hole 🤮🤬👎
Thanks for sharing this. The more information is in the public domain about this virus, how it seems to spread, where etc, the better.
Spreads by jab.
What a nightmare. Bloody hell.
Patrick Harvie is one of my regional MSPs. I had so much time for him when he was first elected, then he completely lost the plot. Power does that! He is a daft wee man who needs to get back in his box. When others say such things about him, all the toys come out of the pram, but he feels he is in the right to judge others.
What the LGB Alliance said makes sense. It is about breaking a cycle of disease. I lived through AIDS and cared for both male and female friends who died from the disease. It was a very upsetting time, but getting friends to change at least some of their behaviours meant that they are still with us. This is what the LGB Alliance are suggesting...
Patrick seems to think the LGB Alliance is "evil" as it doesn't support "T". Such a sad wee man!
Regrettably he is one of mine too and as a trans widow he has never been on my list!
I think they're wrong on this one. The T part is the bit that they got right.
How can people see what they are posting as anything other than safeguarding homosexual men? Standing with the LGB Alliance all the way.
Didn’t something similar happen at the very beginning of the AIDS crisis in nyc? A gay activist was trying to raise awareness about the virus and the prevailing reaction was to shun him for stigmatizing gay men. The movie “A Normal Heart” is all about it, as is the book “ The Band Played On”
A lot of people think that the treatment for AIDS, AZT, was a lot worse than the symptoms that they were presenting with. The inventor of the PCR test, Kary Mullis (died 2019), didn't even believe in AIDS. He basically said that Anthony Fauci was a liar. And Anthony got a million a year for his "AIDS" research.
https://plebeianresistance.substack.com/p/tony-fauci-is-a-pos?s=w
That movie and the non fiction book aren’t about treatments. They are about the start of the spread of HIV in the US, before there were any treatments and before the public knew much about what was happening. “The Band Played on” is by gay reporter Randy Shilts, who tried to sound the alarm and get gay bath houses to shut down to slow the spread of the disease. He was harshly criticized due to an aversion to anything that could stigmatize the gay community. Very similar to what LGB Alliance is going through.
They're a view of one person of the spread of HIV in the US.
Kary Mullis had quite a different view.
Shilts was a journalist, not a virologist or scientist. He was trying to sound the alarm in the gay community and was silenced by activists who also weren’t virologists nor scientists. It’s sort of a non sequiter to say his view of how HIV spread was disputed by a few scientists, because that’s not what he was. The LGB Alliance aren’t a group of virus researchers, either. They are a group noticing a phenomenon and trying to warn people, and then being criticized for being impolitic.
I'm criticizing them for being wrong. As Shilts was. The only question is why are they wrong. Is it innocent or malicious?
I don’t think he was wrong at all.
This is the sex trade arcing up. And Ben Cohen? Let me guess... Prick News relies on advertising dollars received from the sex industry?
I'm going to call you a "SWERF" and stick my fingers in my ears now.
"SWERF" is meaningless gibberish.
Jones, Cohen and Harvie all have gay blood on their hands.
Those men are a disgrace. They appear so full of hatred, I don't know how they get through the day. They understand who it affects, they just want others to know.
So they were trying to warn people of a virus spreading quickly in gay communities... like you know... HIV... and they've been punished for it? Woah.
And even if you don't agree with their idea about bars closing, they're entitled to their opinion and should not be silenced for it.
You might like to know that millions of people worldwide carry the HIV and are perfectly healthy. There are people with AIDS who are HIV-positive and people who are HIV-negative. It seems there needs to be something else to trigger HIV into becoming serious OR HIV may have little to do with developing AIDS. There are a number of theories and Kennedy explores three of them in The Real Anthony Fauci.
I've finally followed Ben Cohen. There are very few people who are so consistently and reliably wrong and STILL get a wide hearing. He must be cherished as a compass needle that always points in the opposite direction from the one we should be going in.
I don't think that I've met Ben but his other sideline is an accountancy firm called Wisteria. We used to be a client. It runs from the same premises as Pink News.
We didn't know anything about his pink news at the time.
God I long for the bygone years of lesbians and gays , loved them all, this mob , nah not so much
Thanks for posting this
They are so blinkered by their own prejudice. It is quite something to see.
It seems they would rather not see sensible public health measures put in solely because LGB Alliance called for it.
The are hypocrites. It’s just all
such BS and so apparent.
More like the new hysteria. Can't support the LGB Alliance on this, Monkeypox looks to be shingles from the covid vaccinations.
The gay community looks to be getting singled out by the promoters of viruses who are invariably pharmaceuticals companies for some strange reason.
Let's shut pharma down instead.
How are the LGB Alliance a promotor of viruses when they are calling for measures to halt it's spread? And "looks to be Shingles"? Shingles and Covid are caused by completely different viruses. Covid vaccinations cannot cause Shingles unless they are not a vaccination for Covid and are in fact a shot of chickenpox. Something Pharma would not get rich on.
Which part of all the wrongs in your post do you want me to start with?
There are no wrongs in my post. I do not need "educating" on anti-science. Covid and Shingles are completely different viruses. Prove me wrong. I want to see hard, peer reviewed evidence from a reputable source.
Would the Roman Catholic Church be good enough?
P.S. your viruses don't exist.
I'll address your flippant use of P.S. (presumably employed to make a point) - the viruses do exist. I've had one, many of my friends and relations had chickenpox and I know people that have had Covid. You can't pick and choose what you want to exisit just to fit in with your opinions. Now to address your main point - What has religion got to do with this?! No, they would not be good enough! I'm going to stop conversing with you now as you clearly have no evidence to back up your assertions if you think that the Pope is a scientist and that you have presented me with some kind of a "Gotcha" in mentioning religion. Have a good day.
Galileo was the allusion. Modern 'science' is more like a religion than science. You can see this in the transgender activists ie. "there is no debate". But you can also see it in the refusal of many to see the maliciousness that is behind the vaccination agenda of the last two years.
Herpes Zoster (Shingles) is a recorded adverse event for the Pfizer jab by the way. The source is Pfizer.
How about you come up with some facts?
From what I’ve read, people may be getting shingles after contracting covid, because of an immunological weakening. That is how people usually get shingles, apparently. In middle to old age, with a weakened immune system, it occurs in people who had chicken pox years before when fighting off another illness. The reports of it happening after the Covid vaccine exist, and it’s unknown if the vaccine could somehow trigger it in a few people or if it’s a coincidence- millions of people have been vaccinated, millions get shingles, so there’s some inevitability there.
Pharma companies have a huge incentive to push drugs and vaccines, but on the other hand, we need really need drugs and vaccines. It seems plausible that gah bath houses and kink festivals might easily be places where an infectious disease that isn’t airborne can tend to spread. Observing that is a neutral fact.
If there's more harm caused by taking drugs and vaccines then we don't really need drugs and vaccines. This is clearly the case with vaccines so by your measure they're gone and I fully agree that vaccines should go as in my view they're a tool of war. Then the case becomes is there more harm caused by drugs overall than they prevent and here too I think the case is that yes there's more harm caused. It's not quite so simple as unlike vaccines drugs do have some benefits but I think you'll find that on a population wide basis the harms done outweigh the benefits.
No, just get the shingles vaccine when you’re eligible and don’t worry about getting the disease after Covid, after another vaccine, or anything else. Vaccines are glorious.
I see. You're a vaccine shill.
Big pharma deserves to be denounced and much more, LGB Alliance does not. It hasn't said or suggested anything controversial, and it hasn't 'demanded' anything, contrary to what Owen Jones said.
Owen Jones is a toad and if he's ever right it's an accident. I agree with you about big pharma which is a pox on civilization but LGB alliance should not be above criticism.
Nothing and no one is above criticism, including the LGB Alliance. Criticism is often highly subjective, which should be fine, it doesn't need to be objectively right or fair, but it's helpful when it's rational.
In this instance, I don't think the motives of the LGB Alliance, or anything they did or said is worthy of criticism. As far as Jones is concerned it's an organisation shouldn't exist, so everything he says is a reflection of that. He applies the same to whatever and whoever he disagrees with. Though he's not really capable of thinking in those terms, he tends to opt for bullying, venom and spite.
Let's ignore Jones. He's irrelevant anyway. A right prick.
I disagree with you about what LGB Alliance has suggested here and for the first time it has me asking about their motivations. I don't believe that 'monkeypox' is transmissible. I also think that viruses (or germs) are a 100+ year wrong turn in medicine. That's at best. At worst they're a product of the war industry.
So to me closing down these gay venues is absolutely unnecessary from a health point of view (as has been everything done re the "covid-19" staging) and from that pov it also looks to be somewhat moralizing.
That an anti-vaxxer would call something which he considers pernicious "a pox" is surely the height of irony.
I'm not an anti-vaxxer. I don't get defined by my opposition. The vaxxers all believe in pseudo science. Cheers.
Figure of speech innit. :)
Pharma's main employee, Fauci, has done this to the gay community before btw.
My understanding (rightly or wrongly) is that monkeypox is spread primarily by bodily fluid and usually clears up without treatment. The experimental gene-based jabs can cause shingles, which monkeypox superficially resembles, by means of immune suppression. For my money, Joseph Mercola has summarised the situation well in Dr Mercola's Censored Library Substack. There is a paywall, but it's a good resource. My view is that what is being promoted by pharma is one-size-fits-all big bucks patentable (in many cases very dodgy) treatments of various kinds for every illness. Some of those treatments are of some use for some people (though rarely without downsides) but most serious illness is avoidable. Info about genuinely healthy diets and lifestyles is actively supressed and derided by big food and big pharma, but it's out there if you look for it.
I don't know enough about monkeypox to have a strong view on its spread but I'm certainly of the view that it's related to the vaccines of the last few years.
I'm currently reading the book in my profile. Pharmaceutical companies have been a very big problem since the 1990s and I guess the rot started earlier when some mid 1980s law changes in the States likely kicked off the current status of that industry. I don't think that it's very capitalist either to just charge what you want for a supposed medicine or vaccine and let the Government cover you for that but that has been the business model since the 1990s. If we put them out of business we'd, as a society, be better off.
I agree, Twitter is an abomination.
But I was more addressing the LGB Alliance's attempts to close down gay venues.