For the same-sex attracted ladies, such as myself, I always sniggered along with the ‘women in comfortable shoes’ classification. A gentle jibe; no offence ever taken.
I recently took advantage of a free legal clinic my employer held. When I asked whether I could be forced to use pronouns in an email signature, the attorney was very confused. So I started to explain and when the name "Lia Thomas" came out of my mouth, the super-nice young paralegal who did my intake snapped her laptop shut and ran right out of the room.
He needed a bit of explaining to understand the issue. Once he grokked it, he looked up case law and told me what my rights were. Before we were done I told him there is a good future in "gender injury law." He said he had not heard of it, so I told him to look through the detrans subreddit. I also explained what AGP is.
This could be the follow up to the Staniland Question:- is Lia Thomas entitled to beat women in swimming competitions because he has a "she "pronoun? signed up/yours/pompeii!!
Recent conversations at work have made me realise that at least some of the individuals deciding our D&I strategy have: no idea what stonewall is or what it represents, no idea about the sex v gender debate, no idea about Maya, no idea about the ‘respect my sex if you want my x’ campaign. And of course this person thought pronouns are fine, just being kind. It is unbelievably difficult to explain this issue to people who need any issue explained to them in an exec summary of a few bullet points - which is how senior people at large firms operate. The board wants an overview not all the details. This is how the gender cult gets in to firms. Be kind is a neat bullet point whereas trying to explain why pronouns are offensive requires an essay. I realised that out of context I sounded mental when I was showing offensive that my employer uses the word gender instead of sex. I’m not sure how we get to these people if they are advised by cultists.
The company I work for is in the top 20 stonewall list. I’ve already had a disagreement with the diversity team about the trans policy they have implemented since it states that trans people can use the facilities they feel they identify with. I asked what risk assessments they had done but they stated that there was no evidence that there was any risk. They even tried to tell me that my sex was assigned at birth. On a recent survey I complained that they have ignored my right to dignity and privacy by implementing this policy. They have now requested that staff add their pronouns. Currently this is voluntary. I will never add my pronouns. I don’t have any. I was born female. It was observed at birth. If anyone queries that I will share this post with them. That is if I still have a job.
I’m so impressed with Anon’s letter. I only wish I could form such a reasoned and comprehensive response to this entire mess. Most often, I’m in a state of perpetual, wide-eyed horror at the nonsense unfolding all around.
The ongoing lack of basic journalistic rigour in professional news media grinds my gears. Auntie, a serial offender, has fallen far short of basic reporting standards with more coverage of stunning and brave Jamie Wallis MP.
'The first MP to come out as transgender has said he hopes to begin transitioning "as quickly as possible".'
'He advised other young people struggling with their gender identity to take their time discovering themselves and "don't feel rushed to pick up a label or view it in any way".'
How to further confuse the already bewildered. Sort it out as quickly as possible, but take your time. Well done BBC!
" His gran describes him as ‘a little theatrical’."
Ladies and gentlemen, the most British understatement that ever Britished.
There’s nothing wrong with being theatrical or flamboyant (it can be a lot of fun). It doesn’t mean that a boy is born in the wrong body.
In American context we would say he has a knack for interior decorating. 😉
For the same-sex attracted ladies, such as myself, I always sniggered along with the ‘women in comfortable shoes’ classification. A gentle jibe; no offence ever taken.
You, of course, were trend setters. Look around now and most women wear comfortable shoes 😁
"She's sporty", is what I've heard.
Exactly!
We used to say he’s a wee Gaylord , and no one bothered , no one really cared as they weren’t targeting our bloody children
None of this pile on shite
Jail me, sack me, cancel me, black list me...I too, will not be adding/stating any pronouns at work or anywhere else for that matter.
Yours
Hee/Haw & Bite/Me
I’m going to steal your pronouns ,
Actually if I’m going to be culturally appropriate
I will sign off with ‘get it right up ye /bawbag
🤣🤣👍🏾
I recently took advantage of a free legal clinic my employer held. When I asked whether I could be forced to use pronouns in an email signature, the attorney was very confused. So I started to explain and when the name "Lia Thomas" came out of my mouth, the super-nice young paralegal who did my intake snapped her laptop shut and ran right out of the room.
You asked an important question. So what happened next? Did you find a way to follow it up? and were there any repercussions?
He needed a bit of explaining to understand the issue. Once he grokked it, he looked up case law and told me what my rights were. Before we were done I told him there is a good future in "gender injury law." He said he had not heard of it, so I told him to look through the detrans subreddit. I also explained what AGP is.
..."a good future in gender injury law". Yes!!
Every lawyer peaked will mean justice for a lot of youngsters in the future. Thank you.
Jeez!
This could be the follow up to the Staniland Question:- is Lia Thomas entitled to beat women in swimming competitions because he has a "she "pronoun? signed up/yours/pompeii!!
I will not now or ever put pronouns in my email signature- not as long as I have a hole in my arse
Great letter. I hope they read it. I hope you don’t mind but I’m going to use it as reference material as you’ve made so many pertinent points.
Thank you, and please use away, I'm glad it was helpful (Anonymous)
This is going to get the writer fast tracked into an HR thought rehabilitation course faster than s/he can say 'fuck that for a game of soldiers'
Recent conversations at work have made me realise that at least some of the individuals deciding our D&I strategy have: no idea what stonewall is or what it represents, no idea about the sex v gender debate, no idea about Maya, no idea about the ‘respect my sex if you want my x’ campaign. And of course this person thought pronouns are fine, just being kind. It is unbelievably difficult to explain this issue to people who need any issue explained to them in an exec summary of a few bullet points - which is how senior people at large firms operate. The board wants an overview not all the details. This is how the gender cult gets in to firms. Be kind is a neat bullet point whereas trying to explain why pronouns are offensive requires an essay. I realised that out of context I sounded mental when I was showing offensive that my employer uses the word gender instead of sex. I’m not sure how we get to these people if they are advised by cultists.
So true. It required a 6 page letter for anyone to even LISTEN to why I think it's the wrong path to socially transition a 6 year old child in school.
The company I work for is in the top 20 stonewall list. I’ve already had a disagreement with the diversity team about the trans policy they have implemented since it states that trans people can use the facilities they feel they identify with. I asked what risk assessments they had done but they stated that there was no evidence that there was any risk. They even tried to tell me that my sex was assigned at birth. On a recent survey I complained that they have ignored my right to dignity and privacy by implementing this policy. They have now requested that staff add their pronouns. Currently this is voluntary. I will never add my pronouns. I don’t have any. I was born female. It was observed at birth. If anyone queries that I will share this post with them. That is if I still have a job.
Glad I am retired because I would have no job...this pronoun/trans/cissssss ahhh never ever NO!
Me too. If any gender extremist manager tried to force pronouns on me I would've told them I identify as their boss & to STFU.
Oh God me too! I love to think I'd have dug my heels in and refused to go along with this crap. But would I? Well, I'll never know now.
I’m so impressed with Anon’s letter. I only wish I could form such a reasoned and comprehensive response to this entire mess. Most often, I’m in a state of perpetual, wide-eyed horror at the nonsense unfolding all around.
That is truly amazing. So well explained and reasoned. Brilliant. I just read it out to my daughter and she agreed, and she is no dinosaur!
Excellent letter and good for sending to people unfamiliar with the details of the debate, or the be kind brigade, too.
Excellent letter. No doubt she was fired!
The ongoing lack of basic journalistic rigour in professional news media grinds my gears. Auntie, a serial offender, has fallen far short of basic reporting standards with more coverage of stunning and brave Jamie Wallis MP.
'The first MP to come out as transgender has said he hopes to begin transitioning "as quickly as possible".'
'He advised other young people struggling with their gender identity to take their time discovering themselves and "don't feel rushed to pick up a label or view it in any way".'
How to further confuse the already bewildered. Sort it out as quickly as possible, but take your time. Well done BBC!
'Other young people' implying he is young himself! I don't think so. Unless he's trans age too.
Owen Jones is 39 and Josie Long 40. I wonder when they'll realise the actual youth think they're both daft old codgers.
I forgot to post a link to the referenced article - apologies to anyone wanting to see it!
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-61207083
Absolutely ace article - thank you ❤️
Powerful message and so well written. Doubt if her captured ,virtue signalling , employer will care though 😭😭😭