Dude made absolute bank off creating complex characters with practically waterlogged moral compasses. I don't believe for a moment he's fooled by trans faux victimhood and all the rest of it.
That was all a bit weird. It all blew up on Twitter and died on Twitter and not much of it appeared to be real. I saw the magically appearing then disappearing posts here on Substack and wondered what the hell was going on. Social media encourages this leap to argue and attack first. I hope you two maybe sit down in real life and have a chat.
Good on Irvine, for understanding women must have single sex intimate spaces. What does he say about prizes for women writers? Female entrepreneurs? Mother's like me, whose former husband lives in glitter world because he now claims to be the mother? And what does he say about Sam Kaye, formerly Maya, whose voice is clearly reamed from years of estrogen? What about medical malpractice that pushed Sinead, Helena, Camille, and so many other young confused women into irreversible damage? Ok, Rome wasn't built in a day. He's an "egg" waiting to hatch into a believer in biology, valid, peer-reviewed studies and sensible age of consent for sexual intimacy. Ok, ok.
I'm glad you've taken it back. When I saw the original tweet, I felt there was a chance he was referring to *real* transphobia and *real* bigots, not gender-critical people making reasonable points.
he had to do so little to get such high praise. while womenrisk all and no one is bigging us up. Let's hope he can actually show real courage. Goodness knows he's done more of his share of damage with his shallow take on the heroin crisis
Can I just say -- if you look back to, I duuno some time pre-Covid, perhaps 2018-19, you will find a short article in the Scottish Metro written by me. I was already raising some thoughtful alarms about the likely impact of 'trans' rights on women's rights.
At that point I knew nothing about Terfs or the organised resistance movement. I knew little about the GRA or even about human biology and the difference between primary and secondary characteristics. I was oblivious to what was happening to teenager girls on Tumblr and because I had set the usual internet filters had no idea about the pervasiveness of online pornography.
Yet still.
Those early alarm bells rang because of my specific journey through life. I was well versed in early 80s radical feminism (knowledge acquired at the veritable British fountainhead -- the Ruskin Trade Union College at Oxford whilst studying PPE at Somerville).
I was in at the ground floor with post-modernist literary theories, which at that time were begining to reach the ears of Oxford post-doctoral students and the more obsessive music critics.
And most significantly of all, in my early 20s I had an extremely scary encounter with a cross-dressing fetishist man. I could make no sense
Of it but did vaguely feel I'd been softened up for it by the excessive tolerance urged by the intellectual circle I'd been moving in.
I buried it. Didn't speak of it for decades. Was traumatised. But I was also primed.
My guess is, that up to now, most GCs have also been primed. JKR suffered domestic violence. Glinner was cancelled for making an obvious statement of fact. Some on this page are de-transitioners, ex-tomboys, lesbians who've been pushed out of their own spaces, or trans widows.
But things are changing. Our previously niche concern is becoming a popular sentiment. Newbies are joining us. This is good. It's very good. But we must understand that they will get things wrong. There will be misconceptions. They will wish to be 'even-handed', still unaware that you can't be even-handed against something so depthlessly evil.
We must be patient. We must accept that people with more sheltered life journeys may not have this cause as their number one priority. It's exasperating, I know, but if we heap abuse on them for failing to be true disciples, we will become like the thing we hate.
Large numbers of well-meaning but not very interested people are becoming vaguely aware that something is rotten in the state of the LGBT-alphabet spaghetti. This is to be welcomed. Now let's use that space to educate.
Dude made absolute bank off creating complex characters with practically waterlogged moral compasses. I don't believe for a moment he's fooled by trans faux victimhood and all the rest of it.
Ooh, waterlogged moral compasses. Haven’t heard that phrase before, did you invent it?
Yeh. Like it's broken and definitely skewed but can probably be fixed if ya slat it in a pan of moralistic rice. Dunno where I'm going with this
Moralistic rice is probably brown, obvs 🤣
Of course 😁
I don’t know where you’re going either, but we’re creative this morning! (Morning where I am)
Yes. This!!
That was all a bit weird. It all blew up on Twitter and died on Twitter and not much of it appeared to be real. I saw the magically appearing then disappearing posts here on Substack and wondered what the hell was going on. Social media encourages this leap to argue and attack first. I hope you two maybe sit down in real life and have a chat.
This is great news, and pleased to uncancel him in my head.
Yessss! Same!
"Women are not the designated support humans for unhappy males, us men need to sort that out for ourselves"
is t-shirt material
And good on you for this follow-up. 👍
Thank you. You're so very nice to say so.
Let the backpeddling commence
Arghh please please please don't detract, Irvine!!
i’ll take all the backpeddling without reprisal.
I’m trying mate.
@joem1212
Graham Linehan creator of Father Ted is currently banned on Twitter. Let’s get him back on!
#BringBackGlinner
Got a few likes and retweets anyway.
Good on Irvine, for understanding women must have single sex intimate spaces. What does he say about prizes for women writers? Female entrepreneurs? Mother's like me, whose former husband lives in glitter world because he now claims to be the mother? And what does he say about Sam Kaye, formerly Maya, whose voice is clearly reamed from years of estrogen? What about medical malpractice that pushed Sinead, Helena, Camille, and so many other young confused women into irreversible damage? Ok, Rome wasn't built in a day. He's an "egg" waiting to hatch into a believer in biology, valid, peer-reviewed studies and sensible age of consent for sexual intimacy. Ok, ok.
Well more good news.
I'm glad you've taken it back. When I saw the original tweet, I felt there was a chance he was referring to *real* transphobia and *real* bigots, not gender-critical people making reasonable points.
he had to do so little to get such high praise. while womenrisk all and no one is bigging us up. Let's hope he can actually show real courage. Goodness knows he's done more of his share of damage with his shallow take on the heroin crisis
He's seen how its gonna end and he's decided he doesnt want a public flogging.
Thank you
Fair enough
GOOD XX
Can I just say -- if you look back to, I duuno some time pre-Covid, perhaps 2018-19, you will find a short article in the Scottish Metro written by me. I was already raising some thoughtful alarms about the likely impact of 'trans' rights on women's rights.
At that point I knew nothing about Terfs or the organised resistance movement. I knew little about the GRA or even about human biology and the difference between primary and secondary characteristics. I was oblivious to what was happening to teenager girls on Tumblr and because I had set the usual internet filters had no idea about the pervasiveness of online pornography.
Yet still.
Those early alarm bells rang because of my specific journey through life. I was well versed in early 80s radical feminism (knowledge acquired at the veritable British fountainhead -- the Ruskin Trade Union College at Oxford whilst studying PPE at Somerville).
I was in at the ground floor with post-modernist literary theories, which at that time were begining to reach the ears of Oxford post-doctoral students and the more obsessive music critics.
And most significantly of all, in my early 20s I had an extremely scary encounter with a cross-dressing fetishist man. I could make no sense
Was there more to this comment, Liz? Seems to have been cut off
Of it but did vaguely feel I'd been softened up for it by the excessive tolerance urged by the intellectual circle I'd been moving in.
I buried it. Didn't speak of it for decades. Was traumatised. But I was also primed.
My guess is, that up to now, most GCs have also been primed. JKR suffered domestic violence. Glinner was cancelled for making an obvious statement of fact. Some on this page are de-transitioners, ex-tomboys, lesbians who've been pushed out of their own spaces, or trans widows.
But things are changing. Our previously niche concern is becoming a popular sentiment. Newbies are joining us. This is good. It's very good. But we must understand that they will get things wrong. There will be misconceptions. They will wish to be 'even-handed', still unaware that you can't be even-handed against something so depthlessly evil.
We must be patient. We must accept that people with more sheltered life journeys may not have this cause as their number one priority. It's exasperating, I know, but if we heap abuse on them for failing to be true disciples, we will become like the thing we hate.
Large numbers of well-meaning but not very interested people are becoming vaguely aware that something is rotten in the state of the LGBT-alphabet spaghetti. This is to be welcomed. Now let's use that space to educate.