To mark yesterday’s disgraceful violence towards women in New Zealand, I’ll be posting a few pieces today by people who have attended past events. The first is from a woman who attended one of Posie’s Australian stops. My thanks to her for this account.
I honestly think these loons would kill Kellie Jay and JK Rowling if they got the chance. The only plus is that they've shown themselves for the violent, deranged misogynistic extremists that they are. They call no longer claim victimhood with any semblance of legitimacy. As always happens with narcisstic abusers, the mask has slipped.
Thank you! There is an attempt on Mumsnet to keep a record of the speeches "Down Under" and to discuss them, although the trolls have been out in force trying to put a stop to it. TRAs and "Socialist Feminists" making common cause against KJK again, with other women being collateral damage as usual.
What a horror show in NZ but the positive that may come out of it, is that it seems to be rallying the troops, and it should, I hope, peak more people. Barry Wall’s video is brilliant as is the Spectator article. The likes of Billy Bragg and the politicians in Australia have a lot to answer for.
I'm with Barry (EDI Jester). We gay men need to get off our backsides some more, organise properly and help. Seeing the complicity of those with influence in the endangerment of Kellie-Jay and the other brave women this week has chilled me to the bone.
The spin in this New Zealand ‘news’ article is off the charts crazy-making. Spin. Gaslight. More dizzying spin — so bloody obvious for those who have eyes to see and ears to hear. “Anti-trans activist” instead of women’s and children’s rights activist. “Escorted out” instead of forced out by a vicious mob of deranged people. “Pro-trans supporters” instead of anti-women and anti-children supporters. “An angry crowd” instead of a deranged mob. “Tension between the groups began to boil over” — here we have the inevitable false equivalence of “both sides”. ... “every side of the barricade had collapsed” — more false equivalence -- as if the violence stemmed from both LetWomenSpeak and the counter 'protest'. Also, note the passive voice of the barricades “had collapsed” instead of direct acknowledgement of mob violence against the safeguarding of a peaceful group. “The crowd slowly pressed forward” — sounds almost peaceful doesn’t it? Like a Victorian flower pressing hobbyist’s gentle activity. “Fights continued to break out in the crowd” — more false equivalence — fights and violence and hatred were on one side only. KJK almost lost her life, as did her some of her supporters, but you’d never know it from this article. Free speech was beaten down by ‘gender’ fascists but you’d never know it from this article. New Zealanders were awakened to the dangers of ‘gender’ ideological fascism — but you’d never know it from this article. Captured media around the world has fuelled the longevity of this mass psychosis that brings with it nothing but suffering — top to bottom psychic and physical suffering. But wait. Here’s something reassuring. This New Zealand publication reminds us that “Every day, 365-a-year, we deliver news like this, free from political influence, unchecked rumours and clickbait.” Pheww. Now we can all sleep at night.
Disgusting, but horribly inevitable. The tactic of framing civil debate as "hate," was truly vile and dangerous.
The media and political establishment's almost-total obedience to that tactic turbocharged the whole effect and here's where it ends up: delusional people (and regular garden-variety violent ****s) physically attacking women for trying to speak, under cover of "fighting hate." The Guardian and much of the media and many politicians - are now on the side of the low-life in those videos.
KJK will rise above this - the Guardian and all the other cowards won't. They own this disgrace.
I complained to the Guardian about their biased and ill informed article. I don't expect a reply but if you don't differentiate between opinion and fact then you have a nerve writing an article for a paper without saying it is opinion and not much else .
I am sure as so many other people I was so angry watching Kellie Jay and the women in Auckland suffer humiliation and abuse in such a vile cowardly manner.
The mob, the captured were not just angry they were venomous at Kellie Jay but many more people remain free, not captured by this insane gender ideology and they, are even angrier and will no longer tolerate this outrage. They are angry at the injustice, angry, at the unfairness, angry at the politicians for allowing this to manifest. Politicians who allow big men to stop tiny women from speaking, who allow them to threaten women, to be violent towards women, to be intimidating, towards women, brave tiny women who are just standing up for the hard won rights of women. Politicians and the media who support this nasty pernicious ideology they must now be called out by their electorate and supporters, they must be faced with the reality that half their voting population or viewers, are women, adult human females and they need to acknowledge that simple and ancient biological fact. They need to start protecting their citizens from both physical,and psychological harm. I am sickened by those cowards and bullies of the mob, but they will never be capable of stopping those courageous women and supportive men from protecting and upholding women’s rights. However frightening and shocking it must have been for those who attended, , it was most definitely a success for it has opened up to the light a very ugly, malignant part of society that exists in New Zealand and other parts of the Western societies. And it’s exposure will, as the silent find their voices give rise to its withering away and then the healing can begin ❤️🩹
Much of NZ media and many NZ politicians are gleeful and proud of what happened. The NZ pubic are being lied to but when the lie is finally revealed for what it is, I hope the public give them the same treatment that Posie received.
Melbourne was a "pleasant day out" compared with what happened in Auckland yesterday. It was a disgraceful display of violence that was not only condoned and sanctioned, but REQUESTED by NZ politicians including MPs and mayors. It's been obvious for a long time that NZ media is captured; there was not a single broadcaster who talked about KJK as anything other than "the anti-trans agitator". The general public would have no way of knowing that she is a women's rights advocate and pushes for child safeguarding. The older man interviewed on TV after she had left the venue offered up a "people should be able to live how they want to". Because there are no journalists in NZ anymore, he was not asked if this included child sterilisation and indoctrinating children through public schools. When sex ID becomes the law here later this year and shit starts happening, maybe then people will understand what women who are trying to speak were prevented from saying in Auckland and Wellington.
Me, my husband & hopefully therefore many others .. are more determined than ever to attend a Let Women Speak event. We’ve got to show up for her. It’s hard for parents to do it but we really need to back her up.
Thanks very much for this. it is extraordinary how once respectable broadsheets and media are just trotting out total falsehoods and lies which anyone who studies the images and video footage available can immediately see is not true.
I have recovered from being stunned by everything and am posting tonight.
I honestly think these loons would kill Kellie Jay and JK Rowling if they got the chance. The only plus is that they've shown themselves for the violent, deranged misogynistic extremists that they are. They call no longer claim victimhood with any semblance of legitimacy. As always happens with narcisstic abusers, the mask has slipped.
Thank you! There is an attempt on Mumsnet to keep a record of the speeches "Down Under" and to discuss them, although the trolls have been out in force trying to put a stop to it. TRAs and "Socialist Feminists" making common cause against KJK again, with other women being collateral damage as usual.
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4769956-women-speaking-let-women-speak-australia-nz-tour
What a horror show in NZ but the positive that may come out of it, is that it seems to be rallying the troops, and it should, I hope, peak more people. Barry Wall’s video is brilliant as is the Spectator article. The likes of Billy Bragg and the politicians in Australia have a lot to answer for.
I'm with Barry (EDI Jester). We gay men need to get off our backsides some more, organise properly and help. Seeing the complicity of those with influence in the endangerment of Kellie-Jay and the other brave women this week has chilled me to the bone.
Add Australia & NZ to list of countries where women's rights go to die.
The spin in this New Zealand ‘news’ article is off the charts crazy-making. Spin. Gaslight. More dizzying spin — so bloody obvious for those who have eyes to see and ears to hear. “Anti-trans activist” instead of women’s and children’s rights activist. “Escorted out” instead of forced out by a vicious mob of deranged people. “Pro-trans supporters” instead of anti-women and anti-children supporters. “An angry crowd” instead of a deranged mob. “Tension between the groups began to boil over” — here we have the inevitable false equivalence of “both sides”. ... “every side of the barricade had collapsed” — more false equivalence -- as if the violence stemmed from both LetWomenSpeak and the counter 'protest'. Also, note the passive voice of the barricades “had collapsed” instead of direct acknowledgement of mob violence against the safeguarding of a peaceful group. “The crowd slowly pressed forward” — sounds almost peaceful doesn’t it? Like a Victorian flower pressing hobbyist’s gentle activity. “Fights continued to break out in the crowd” — more false equivalence — fights and violence and hatred were on one side only. KJK almost lost her life, as did her some of her supporters, but you’d never know it from this article. Free speech was beaten down by ‘gender’ fascists but you’d never know it from this article. New Zealanders were awakened to the dangers of ‘gender’ ideological fascism — but you’d never know it from this article. Captured media around the world has fuelled the longevity of this mass psychosis that brings with it nothing but suffering — top to bottom psychic and physical suffering. But wait. Here’s something reassuring. This New Zealand publication reminds us that “Every day, 365-a-year, we deliver news like this, free from political influence, unchecked rumours and clickbait.” Pheww. Now we can all sleep at night.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/300839091/antitrans-activist-posie-parker-escorted-out-of-auckland-rally-hit-by-soup
KJK - Gay Men Must Speak and Stand Up
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-QfI9L6ElM&t=1s
Disgusting, but horribly inevitable. The tactic of framing civil debate as "hate," was truly vile and dangerous.
The media and political establishment's almost-total obedience to that tactic turbocharged the whole effect and here's where it ends up: delusional people (and regular garden-variety violent ****s) physically attacking women for trying to speak, under cover of "fighting hate." The Guardian and much of the media and many politicians - are now on the side of the low-life in those videos.
KJK will rise above this - the Guardian and all the other cowards won't. They own this disgrace.
I complained to the Guardian about their biased and ill informed article. I don't expect a reply but if you don't differentiate between opinion and fact then you have a nerve writing an article for a paper without saying it is opinion and not much else .
I am sure as so many other people I was so angry watching Kellie Jay and the women in Auckland suffer humiliation and abuse in such a vile cowardly manner.
The mob, the captured were not just angry they were venomous at Kellie Jay but many more people remain free, not captured by this insane gender ideology and they, are even angrier and will no longer tolerate this outrage. They are angry at the injustice, angry, at the unfairness, angry at the politicians for allowing this to manifest. Politicians who allow big men to stop tiny women from speaking, who allow them to threaten women, to be violent towards women, to be intimidating, towards women, brave tiny women who are just standing up for the hard won rights of women. Politicians and the media who support this nasty pernicious ideology they must now be called out by their electorate and supporters, they must be faced with the reality that half their voting population or viewers, are women, adult human females and they need to acknowledge that simple and ancient biological fact. They need to start protecting their citizens from both physical,and psychological harm. I am sickened by those cowards and bullies of the mob, but they will never be capable of stopping those courageous women and supportive men from protecting and upholding women’s rights. However frightening and shocking it must have been for those who attended, , it was most definitely a success for it has opened up to the light a very ugly, malignant part of society that exists in New Zealand and other parts of the Western societies. And it’s exposure will, as the silent find their voices give rise to its withering away and then the healing can begin ❤️🩹
Much of NZ media and many NZ politicians are gleeful and proud of what happened. The NZ pubic are being lied to but when the lie is finally revealed for what it is, I hope the public give them the same treatment that Posie received.
Thank you for presenting an alternative to The Guardian's disgraceful version of this incident.
Melbourne was a "pleasant day out" compared with what happened in Auckland yesterday. It was a disgraceful display of violence that was not only condoned and sanctioned, but REQUESTED by NZ politicians including MPs and mayors. It's been obvious for a long time that NZ media is captured; there was not a single broadcaster who talked about KJK as anything other than "the anti-trans agitator". The general public would have no way of knowing that she is a women's rights advocate and pushes for child safeguarding. The older man interviewed on TV after she had left the venue offered up a "people should be able to live how they want to". Because there are no journalists in NZ anymore, he was not asked if this included child sterilisation and indoctrinating children through public schools. When sex ID becomes the law here later this year and shit starts happening, maybe then people will understand what women who are trying to speak were prevented from saying in Auckland and Wellington.
Me, my husband & hopefully therefore many others .. are more determined than ever to attend a Let Women Speak event. We’ve got to show up for her. It’s hard for parents to do it but we really need to back her up.
Thanks Graham. I'm New Zealand woman who was at the Auckland event, and all I can say is, I'm deeply ashamed to be a Kiwi today.
Thanks very much for this. it is extraordinary how once respectable broadsheets and media are just trotting out total falsehoods and lies which anyone who studies the images and video footage available can immediately see is not true.
I have recovered from being stunned by everything and am posting tonight.
Keep up the great work, Terven!