Aaron Terrell is a natal woman who has transitioned and is now, to use the parlance of the day, “living as a man”. Here’s Aaron’s pin-sharp analysis of gender dysphoria as “the very definition of a first-world problem.” Coming from Aaron, especially, it is an observation full of the kind of nuanced, deep understanding we’re told trans people possess despite our rarely being presented with any evidence to that end. Grace Lavery is a professor of wanking, India Willoughby thinks Kathleen Stock wants to kill her, Shon Fae wants to disband the police, and yet these lunatics are the ones who get book deals and telly appearances. It’s the very definition of male privilege.
“I have to continue because it’s the right thing to do, and if I didn’t do it, I’d go insane with guilt. I don’t want what happened to Jazz Jennings and Keira Bell to happen to a single other child. That’s a crucial fight in which we all deserve a voice. I won’t be driven out of it by people who enjoy causing chaos and pain because they’re unhappy.”
Perfectly put, Graham.
Thank you and Happy New Year! I’ll be proud to keep fighting with you in 2022
Late yesterday afternoon I had a lengthy conversation with my GP on this very topic. (No, I'm not transitioning!) You, of course, put it all so much better, so I'll be sending this along to her. "First-world problem," indeed. Thanks as always for the clarity and the writing.
AGP men and their apologists, in the end, can do nothing but distort and detract. You just can’t see it, and you never will. And that’s fine. But one thing that would really really help this coalition is for you to stop these pleas/exhortations/whatever. It is genuinely the most harmful thing you can do. I KNOW you think you are trying to help, but it is having the opposite effect. Please hear this. #women.every.single.time. KJK
'We need the quieter voices.' That's a stfu if ever I saw one. Hayton helped usher in school guidelines to let kids use whatever toilet they feel they id with; he is no ally.
I guess I'm one of the sadists that will never play pretend for any mentally ill man or woman with gender dysphoria or middle class malaise - too fucken bad. #NEVERSurrender
It's being 'nice' 'kind' 'reasonable' and moderate that's brought this shit about to pass! Why do you think people were relieved to hear me 'sperg tf out? Because we're sick of tip toeing around the mentally ill. #GlovesOff yes, it's a broad church. Yes, we need every ally. NO, we do not have to fangirl on mentally ill men who are smirking all the while as they get their validation by speaking endlessly about themselves and how THEY see feminism. Bit like yourself, bro. Great work, outstanding, and I take loadsy things under advisement. However, the day I take advice from a man about feminism is the day the sun rises over Western Ireland.
Top o' the year to you! #NEVERKowtow #Itriedaskingnicely
This is not about you, Stella, Arty, Debbie or Aaron. This is about safeguarding. The women you describe as 'sadists' are the women who understand safeguarding.
Undoubtedly people are being mean to your mates but that's not the point. For as long as you continue to frame this as people being mean to your mates, and fail to address the safeguarding issues, you are also a safeguarding risk.
If it wasn't for this site the rights of women and the safeguarding of children would have been eroded much more than they already have. There would have been opposition to gender identity ideology but without this site it wouldn't have had anything like the same focus, cohesion or reached nearly as many people.
If we win, we win. The stakes could not be higher, and “losing the nuance” of Debbie Hayton and Artie seems a price well worth paying. (Of course, wish them no personal or professional harm, all the best and so on, but yeah, don’t need them or their opinions as “allies”.)
Humans can't change sex so Aaron isn't "a natal woman who has transitioned". She's a woman. A good New Years Resolution would be wean ourselves off kowtowing to these gender ideology nostrums.
Happy New Year Graham. Some of the very bravest voices are the ones who are attacked by both sides. Thanks for all you do. Thanks to Debbie, Aaron, Miranda, Stella and everyone who is getting abuse for standing up to this nonsense. We're cutting through. Let's hope for more progress in 2022.
Blimey, just joined on here & if Twitter is heavy weight boxing, this is bare knuckle fighting! I'm not going to comment on this piece because I don't fancy the bloodlust right now but I do hope you have a good new year Graham & that however we achieve it we get women & girls the right to change, love, win, achieve in their own single sex class...without males invading everything..
While I have no doubt that these individuals do wish to protect children, there is no internal consistency in their arguments. It is real trans good, the not real bad. Every dysphoric young person will see themselves as real trans. While same may grow out of it, others will fall for the gender woo and take hormones and have surgeries two or three years later than they otherwise would. What is the difference between ppl like Contrapoints thinking they are real women and these others are troons? None . People are acting as walking billboards for medical transition. Saying it made their lives better despite the horrendous complications...even promoting it in porn and on t-shirts saying Tranny AF. Kids see through this stuff. The focus on here lately seems to be on the promotion of true trans and on attacking women who attack back when they didn't start the fight. Comparing feminists to TRA for criticising more 'nuanced' TRAs is not a great look Graham. You are losing your way. 'Nuanced' seems to be the gaslighter's word of choice lately. Just listen to James Max. If you find yourself using it, you should probably stop and think about why you are using it at all.
Hello Graham ! Happy New Year and thank you for your work.
I was thinking about this issue: how can we deal or treat our "trans allies"?
(I have the same reflexion about men in feminism)
It's problematic for femalist (I'm a member of WHRC in my country) because we know if we open too much the door, it will happen what happenned before: trans zelot will find an other way to destroy our very little and fragile organisation by using the tool of unicorn of Troy.
First came the shy and kind, then more of them, then louder, then those who want to change vocabulary, and rules and make us obey and send is death threat if we refuse to conform.
Now, in our meeting, we have more and more spies who are trying to attend to our zoom meeting. Sometimes, they are dumb enough to let their pronoun when they are pretending to be one of us 🙄🤡.
But.
I don't like to treat people just because of what they are and I'm happy, whatever desagrement we can have about other subject, to hear trans voices like Debbie Hayton, Blaire White, Buck Angel etc. Just because we are agree about the reality of sex. And those voices are to rare to not be listen.
But (again), we can't praise them and let them have the priority in that debate. Because, exactly like "feminist" men, about women's issues, they are more respected and use as tool to erase our voices by others (media etc.)
My solution is: we all have the right and the duty to talk about the subject of reality of sex. AALL of us. But we don't have to work in the same organisation or the same way.
Questions: what's Arty Morty's real name? How did he become the head of LGB Alliance Canada? How does he function in that capacity? Who funds Gender Dysphoria Alliance? Which services do they provide? How do they provide these services? Why was Buck Angels picture removed from the 'Leadership Board' array? How does Buck Angel, a pornographer who sells sex aids on Twitter, provide 'leadership' for this organization? Since you praised Buck Angel as 'grounded', do you approve of her selling a cartoon rendering of her genitals on a t-shirt, using the same Twitter page on which she discusses health care for gender-confused children? How is that representative of her 'groundedness'?
Regarding TRA tactics, are you referring to rape/death/assault threats, doxxing and cancelling? Are you referring to trolling? Aaron Terrell floated the idea that I was a psyop, under the control of Morgane Oger and Olivia Maynard. That is a TRA tactic.The only people who have employed TRA tactics here are you, Aaron Kimberly and Aaron Terrell. I will be sure to continue to discuss these matters honestly and forthrightly.
Hi Graham, Thank you for all you have done and do.
Thank you for peaking me years before this came knocking on my door and ripping a hole in my family.
Thank you for 'The Mess We're In" and introducing me to guests like Stella O'Malley, whose tireless, selfless work and the organisations she set up (Genspect, Gender Dysphoria Support Network etc) have saved my sanity and given me and my family a lifeline when there had only been a void and silence.
Thank you for introducing me to the Gender Dysphoria Alliance, without who I would have no idea what my daughter is going to be facing in the coming years and how I can support her through it, if she lets me, or what might have led her to make the choices she has made.
And, seemingly controversially, I thank Buck Angel, because without the candid videos about what it is like to live with a trans mans body and medicalisation, I wouldn't have known to talk to my daughter about vaginal atrophy and taking care of herself, because there was one else talking about it or giving a shit about the real life consequences of these actions.
And while I am being controversial, I also thank you for giving Debbie Hayton space to talk about AGP. While girls and young women have been rocketing through the GI Clinics in recent years, we are now seeing more and more boys and young men doing the same, if we don't try and understand why they are feeling this way about themselves, then we will lose them, we will have failed them and we will have failed the women that they may go on to harm because we closed the door too soon.
I thank you for giving a platform to and celebrating the dozens of strong, powerful, vocal women that are leading us in the fight, those that have stuck their heads above the parapet and lost jobs, income, status, those that are harassed and bullied still, for holding the line.
But mostly I thank you for recognising you have skin in the game too. Many men seem to have taken the opposite approach "nothing to do with us, it's a women's problem", it isn't, and you see that, so thank you.
So here is to 2022, perhaps my anxiety and heart sick pain will allow me more than a few hours sleep at night, maybe I will wake up one day without a giant gnawing knot in my stomach, whatever it brings, I'm glad we are in this fight together, with good people putting their shoulder to the wheel by our sides.
The positivity of Mess has kept me going in what has been a rather bleak year fighting my own little battle with this ideology. Thank you everyone on here for the contribution you make. Happy New Year and here's to Terfing in '22 🥂😘
Oh, shit, and happy New Year!
“I have to continue because it’s the right thing to do, and if I didn’t do it, I’d go insane with guilt. I don’t want what happened to Jazz Jennings and Keira Bell to happen to a single other child. That’s a crucial fight in which we all deserve a voice. I won’t be driven out of it by people who enjoy causing chaos and pain because they’re unhappy.”
Perfectly put, Graham.
Thank you and Happy New Year! I’ll be proud to keep fighting with you in 2022
Late yesterday afternoon I had a lengthy conversation with my GP on this very topic. (No, I'm not transitioning!) You, of course, put it all so much better, so I'll be sending this along to her. "First-world problem," indeed. Thanks as always for the clarity and the writing.
AGP men and their apologists, in the end, can do nothing but distort and detract. You just can’t see it, and you never will. And that’s fine. But one thing that would really really help this coalition is for you to stop these pleas/exhortations/whatever. It is genuinely the most harmful thing you can do. I KNOW you think you are trying to help, but it is having the opposite effect. Please hear this. #women.every.single.time. KJK
'We need the quieter voices.' That's a stfu if ever I saw one. Hayton helped usher in school guidelines to let kids use whatever toilet they feel they id with; he is no ally.
I guess I'm one of the sadists that will never play pretend for any mentally ill man or woman with gender dysphoria or middle class malaise - too fucken bad. #NEVERSurrender
It's being 'nice' 'kind' 'reasonable' and moderate that's brought this shit about to pass! Why do you think people were relieved to hear me 'sperg tf out? Because we're sick of tip toeing around the mentally ill. #GlovesOff yes, it's a broad church. Yes, we need every ally. NO, we do not have to fangirl on mentally ill men who are smirking all the while as they get their validation by speaking endlessly about themselves and how THEY see feminism. Bit like yourself, bro. Great work, outstanding, and I take loadsy things under advisement. However, the day I take advice from a man about feminism is the day the sun rises over Western Ireland.
Top o' the year to you! #NEVERKowtow #Itriedaskingnicely
This is not about you, Stella, Arty, Debbie or Aaron. This is about safeguarding. The women you describe as 'sadists' are the women who understand safeguarding.
Undoubtedly people are being mean to your mates but that's not the point. For as long as you continue to frame this as people being mean to your mates, and fail to address the safeguarding issues, you are also a safeguarding risk.
If it wasn't for this site the rights of women and the safeguarding of children would have been eroded much more than they already have. There would have been opposition to gender identity ideology but without this site it wouldn't have had anything like the same focus, cohesion or reached nearly as many people.
A Happy New Year to Graham and everyone here.
If we win, we win. The stakes could not be higher, and “losing the nuance” of Debbie Hayton and Artie seems a price well worth paying. (Of course, wish them no personal or professional harm, all the best and so on, but yeah, don’t need them or their opinions as “allies”.)
Humans can't change sex so Aaron isn't "a natal woman who has transitioned". She's a woman. A good New Years Resolution would be wean ourselves off kowtowing to these gender ideology nostrums.
Happy New Year Graham. Some of the very bravest voices are the ones who are attacked by both sides. Thanks for all you do. Thanks to Debbie, Aaron, Miranda, Stella and everyone who is getting abuse for standing up to this nonsense. We're cutting through. Let's hope for more progress in 2022.
Blimey, just joined on here & if Twitter is heavy weight boxing, this is bare knuckle fighting! I'm not going to comment on this piece because I don't fancy the bloodlust right now but I do hope you have a good new year Graham & that however we achieve it we get women & girls the right to change, love, win, achieve in their own single sex class...without males invading everything..
Peace, Love & Confidence to all GCers in 2022.
While I have no doubt that these individuals do wish to protect children, there is no internal consistency in their arguments. It is real trans good, the not real bad. Every dysphoric young person will see themselves as real trans. While same may grow out of it, others will fall for the gender woo and take hormones and have surgeries two or three years later than they otherwise would. What is the difference between ppl like Contrapoints thinking they are real women and these others are troons? None . People are acting as walking billboards for medical transition. Saying it made their lives better despite the horrendous complications...even promoting it in porn and on t-shirts saying Tranny AF. Kids see through this stuff. The focus on here lately seems to be on the promotion of true trans and on attacking women who attack back when they didn't start the fight. Comparing feminists to TRA for criticising more 'nuanced' TRAs is not a great look Graham. You are losing your way. 'Nuanced' seems to be the gaslighter's word of choice lately. Just listen to James Max. If you find yourself using it, you should probably stop and think about why you are using it at all.
Hello Graham ! Happy New Year and thank you for your work.
I was thinking about this issue: how can we deal or treat our "trans allies"?
(I have the same reflexion about men in feminism)
It's problematic for femalist (I'm a member of WHRC in my country) because we know if we open too much the door, it will happen what happenned before: trans zelot will find an other way to destroy our very little and fragile organisation by using the tool of unicorn of Troy.
First came the shy and kind, then more of them, then louder, then those who want to change vocabulary, and rules and make us obey and send is death threat if we refuse to conform.
Now, in our meeting, we have more and more spies who are trying to attend to our zoom meeting. Sometimes, they are dumb enough to let their pronoun when they are pretending to be one of us 🙄🤡.
But.
I don't like to treat people just because of what they are and I'm happy, whatever desagrement we can have about other subject, to hear trans voices like Debbie Hayton, Blaire White, Buck Angel etc. Just because we are agree about the reality of sex. And those voices are to rare to not be listen.
But (again), we can't praise them and let them have the priority in that debate. Because, exactly like "feminist" men, about women's issues, they are more respected and use as tool to erase our voices by others (media etc.)
My solution is: we all have the right and the duty to talk about the subject of reality of sex. AALL of us. But we don't have to work in the same organisation or the same way.
Stay safe. Read you soon.
Questions: what's Arty Morty's real name? How did he become the head of LGB Alliance Canada? How does he function in that capacity? Who funds Gender Dysphoria Alliance? Which services do they provide? How do they provide these services? Why was Buck Angels picture removed from the 'Leadership Board' array? How does Buck Angel, a pornographer who sells sex aids on Twitter, provide 'leadership' for this organization? Since you praised Buck Angel as 'grounded', do you approve of her selling a cartoon rendering of her genitals on a t-shirt, using the same Twitter page on which she discusses health care for gender-confused children? How is that representative of her 'groundedness'?
Regarding TRA tactics, are you referring to rape/death/assault threats, doxxing and cancelling? Are you referring to trolling? Aaron Terrell floated the idea that I was a psyop, under the control of Morgane Oger and Olivia Maynard. That is a TRA tactic.The only people who have employed TRA tactics here are you, Aaron Kimberly and Aaron Terrell. I will be sure to continue to discuss these matters honestly and forthrightly.
Hi Graham, Thank you for all you have done and do.
Thank you for peaking me years before this came knocking on my door and ripping a hole in my family.
Thank you for 'The Mess We're In" and introducing me to guests like Stella O'Malley, whose tireless, selfless work and the organisations she set up (Genspect, Gender Dysphoria Support Network etc) have saved my sanity and given me and my family a lifeline when there had only been a void and silence.
Thank you for introducing me to the Gender Dysphoria Alliance, without who I would have no idea what my daughter is going to be facing in the coming years and how I can support her through it, if she lets me, or what might have led her to make the choices she has made.
And, seemingly controversially, I thank Buck Angel, because without the candid videos about what it is like to live with a trans mans body and medicalisation, I wouldn't have known to talk to my daughter about vaginal atrophy and taking care of herself, because there was one else talking about it or giving a shit about the real life consequences of these actions.
And while I am being controversial, I also thank you for giving Debbie Hayton space to talk about AGP. While girls and young women have been rocketing through the GI Clinics in recent years, we are now seeing more and more boys and young men doing the same, if we don't try and understand why they are feeling this way about themselves, then we will lose them, we will have failed them and we will have failed the women that they may go on to harm because we closed the door too soon.
I thank you for giving a platform to and celebrating the dozens of strong, powerful, vocal women that are leading us in the fight, those that have stuck their heads above the parapet and lost jobs, income, status, those that are harassed and bullied still, for holding the line.
But mostly I thank you for recognising you have skin in the game too. Many men seem to have taken the opposite approach "nothing to do with us, it's a women's problem", it isn't, and you see that, so thank you.
So here is to 2022, perhaps my anxiety and heart sick pain will allow me more than a few hours sleep at night, maybe I will wake up one day without a giant gnawing knot in my stomach, whatever it brings, I'm glad we are in this fight together, with good people putting their shoulder to the wheel by our sides.
The positivity of Mess has kept me going in what has been a rather bleak year fighting my own little battle with this ideology. Thank you everyone on here for the contribution you make. Happy New Year and here's to Terfing in '22 🥂😘