Oh dear, disputes between people dedicated to getting it right and telling others how to do the same, but it's still not happening, it's still not good enough. They'll eat themselves if they continue this way.
Even for those who are prepared to care, is it really worth it? Getting the etiquette right for everyone is obviously less straightforward than it should be. But trying lets them know they are being thought about, and that's the vital part
Men are all too often not good-looking, but these wankers take their lack of good looks to a new level! When you don't have any lips, lipstick doesn't help!
I do too, although it's tempered by all the handmaiding she's done on this issue. I'm not holding my breath to see if this incident will make the slightest difference to her views.
That effin t-shirt has made me see red. They say they are not trying to erase women? They say they are the ones being erased by women. Really? REALLY?!
That poor cult-captured mutilated girl -- obviously still in pain. Curled in on herself, in more ways than one. Such a victim. The world around her from top to bottom, no matter where she turned, told her there was nothing wrong with this. The sign behind her is telling her that she is just 'being herself'. Lied to -- right until the very end.
Thanks for sharing that - the comments on that FB article might be as encouraging news as I've heard for a long time. As you say, the vast majority are GC or otherwise anti-Stonewall. People are getting sick of it, and even more importantly, having the guts to say so publicly 💪💪💪.
Worth a spot in the next Good News supplement JL? 😀
I’m voting @TonyPhatt’s sarcastic tweet response to the picayune, arcane, ever-evolving ‘trans’ pronoun demands — WINNER of almost forever. His spot-on response re. 'can't-win-no-matter-how-hard-she-trys' Jameel Jamil's unpopular suggestion that people make their pronouns more explicit :
“Yes. It’s entirely unreasonable to make demands and then expect everyone else to go along with them”. A perfectly delicious confection of a tweet.
"You are from your father the Devil, and you wish to do the desires of your father.+ That one was a murderer when he began,+ and he did not stand fast in the truth, because truth is not in him. When he speaks the lie, he speaks according to his own disposition, because he is a liar and the father of the lie"
Hard to believe that the Welsh Government claims they're somehow "protecting " children by indoctrinating them into Woke ideology and lying to them that sex is " assigned " at birth , This is gross !! They are just as much a disgrace as the Scottish Government Hope more and more parents join this fight. 🙏 THEY are the real protectors of children. So glad my children and grandchildren are grown up .💔😭👎😈
Me too! Started on Saturday & have done little else since. Initially found the online convos a bit odd to read but 600+ pages in I'm utterly captured 🖤
I just discovered a YouTube channel called Jalida Vines, with absolutely wrenching testimony about her detransition.
Thanks to Petal, who let me know that the photos in my memoir don't come through on kindle. Anyone who cannot afford the book and would like excerpts can find 3 at womenarehuman.com in the Books/Media section, and further, if you cannot afford the book, you can contact me on the form at my blog. If you are in the US, I can send you a review copy, no charge. You'd obviously have to give me your mailing address.
Ute Heggen, author, In the Curated Woods, True Tales of a Grass Widow (iuniverse, 2022)
Your Substack just gets better and better Graham, I have trouble keeping up with the multitude of events and issues that hit on a daily basis - and I try to keep tabs on what's going on in other countries too. But it's too much sometimes to follow everything, but you have a neat way of summarising and commenting (pithy as ever) and just putting it in front of us. I recycle some of your material (and gcnews.substack.com ) as screenshots which I use as mini-pixels for some of the GC art that I'm making with appropriated images. I'm a UK artist in real life, but can't afford any more trauma (or loss of work) by speaking out publicly incase others identify our trans champion child and threaten a deeper estrangement with our daughter (if that were possible). My wife has suffered terribly through this and we're learning slowly how to live with the fallout. The screenshot art I make and upload helps bring readers to my "pinned" substack story We Used To Have A Daughter; about the grooming, indoctrination and radicalisation of our daughter who has estranged us now for 4 years. I write about the cult that keeps her captive and the grief and trauma it's cost us, her loving parents. I'm also trying to reach out to men, because they're just not getting it, are they. Our daughter now has a magnificent new gender identity built on the back of OUR erasure, and my substack is the living proof for any politician or lawmaker who dares to peep behind the curtain, that we (as her parents) are the living proof that YOU were right, that Helen Joyce is right, that Sue Evans was right, that Dr Az is right, Jo Bartosch, Simon Edge, and all the best writers and thinkers involved in the pushback ARE RIGHT. I'm guilty of conversion therapy because I "didn't immediately affirm" our daughters new identity. Well fuck me, what a world we live in. I can't even call out the people who abused our daughter, so I have to write about it and make images, true to my authentic self, instead dentonyogacarter.substack.com
"A girl without a dick is like an angel without wings" - quite apart from being jaw-droppingly misogynistic - way to prove us wrong about the religious cult angle 😳
Coincidence? Coppola tried (and fails miserably) to trans Enid Blyton's George - a tomboy, within 24 hours of The Lionesses winning a key football match? Maybe, but it seemed a very strange response, particularly when TRA's were already fuming that young women should even be allowed to play soccer and not be transed. I noted in earlier threads that I could envisage Coppola screaming at the telly throughout the game on the Sunday that all 22 players and subs should have been transed, on the grounds that most, if not all, would have been tomboys in adolescence.
So Coppola remains a sort of enigma, wrapped in a mouldy cheese sandwich. Ostensibly she identifies herself as a left-leaning economist, though I doubt the (real) British Left appreciate her banking past, let alone her TRA credentials. On the other side is that forthright demand to be seen as a TRA extremist.
And should we be surprised? The GC side? That's just debate, researched books, public meetings, essays, coffee mornings, knitting, artwork, protest demos. No way would that be exciting. Not when you can be on the TRA side with its constant issuing of death-and-rape threats, cancel culture, anti-science rhetoric, liaison with modern police, rewriting history and literature...
In her defence though, it should be said that if the TRA cause didn't exist, Coppola would likely have been drawn to something else with a similar vocabulary. The 9/11 'Troofers' share a lot with the TRA's, as do the Lunar Landing Hoax proponents, The Sandy Hook conspiracy theorists inspired by Alex Jones, the JFK 'grassy knoll' bunch, Pearl Harbour as a 'false flag' operation...the list is endless. But the language employed is identical and if she hadn't adopted the TRA/incel perspective, I'm sure something else would have appealed to her.
What isn't quite clear is why Frances demanded her image be removed from the list of receipts on an earlier Glinner posting. Not when her visage is plastered all over the Web in the first place.
It is though clear that Frances Coppola is positioning herself as being one of the UK's leading TRA extremists. Others seem to be trying to get away from any association with the 'cause' as rapidly-as-possible. Owen Jones for instance is trying frantically to immerse himself in economic issues, but is hamstrung by his excessive use of the 'block' button against women. Monty has been working for the GC cause for over-a-year now (the call for 'debate' was a deliberate low blow against the TRA's). Prior has probably always been a double-agent. And Jolyon? Well his attack on leftist Nick Cohen just as Cohen had launched into the Tories (again) places his allegiances in doubt.
Into that vacuum only India Willoughby and Coppola are actively working for the TRA cause. Harris is busted flush. Willoughby makes every effort to come over as bonkers. The Scottish Actor has disappeared for-the-moment.
Coppola, despite a recent hiccup with the TRA mob, might just be contemplating promoting herself as the nation's leading TRA extremist. That Tweet, inside a day of The Lionesses beating Germany might have come over as crass and ill-judged. But I reckon that was her application form.
'enby is infantalizing' but 'non-binary' is not. Hahahahahahahaha! Good one.
Oh dear, disputes between people dedicated to getting it right and telling others how to do the same, but it's still not happening, it's still not good enough. They'll eat themselves if they continue this way.
not bothered?
That's the sad thing - they don't realise that NOBODY CARES if they're non-binary, enby, NB or any other made-up label.
Even for those who are prepared to care, is it really worth it? Getting the etiquette right for everyone is obviously less straightforward than it should be. But trying lets them know they are being thought about, and that's the vital part
Chase - pay your bills, like all other adults.
And man up ffs!
Adult enough to consent to irreversible surgery but not adult enough to take personal responsibility for own finances.
The ‘girl’ with the dick must be 50 if he’s a day!
Men are all too often not good-looking, but these wankers take their lack of good looks to a new level! When you don't have any lips, lipstick doesn't help!
He looks a lot like the Netflix guy, the one who has a porno tatt on his arm.
that's him!
He's definitely no girl, and I'm sure he can take that with as much ease as he takes the piss.
Poor Jameela getting out pioused.
Pure entertainment
It is entertaining, although I do feel a tiny amount of guilt at mocking a not terribly bright person.
Live by the tweet
Die by the tweet
Come back with your tweet or on it
Sow the likes, reap the ratio
And verily I say into you, let ey who is without sin cast the first tweet
Wisdom of the ages.
Ah, I do see what you mean, feel a bit mean now
I do too, although it's tempered by all the handmaiding she's done on this issue. I'm not holding my breath to see if this incident will make the slightest difference to her views.
That effin t-shirt has made me see red. They say they are not trying to erase women? They say they are the ones being erased by women. Really? REALLY?!
That poor cult-captured mutilated girl -- obviously still in pain. Curled in on herself, in more ways than one. Such a victim. The world around her from top to bottom, no matter where she turned, told her there was nothing wrong with this. The sign behind her is telling her that she is just 'being herself'. Lied to -- right until the very end.
Yes, #YoungGCWomenUnite is getting lively. Saw quite a few posts today.
More young women coming forward who have suddenly opened their eyes. Plenty of supportive comments from older GC women.
Also, for those who missed Stonewall's post on FB https://www.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=pfbid0VQ7er4SUntoBphpr3qMuRCBQxzRhh6hj3BWosXMbzrzW8t2J8gbdDZ1dyi4rkkRSl&id=18933990398&_rdr - the comments are so great. I've read 145 of them so far and about 142 of these are having a go at Stonewall. It makes for brilliant reading.
Thanks for sharing that - the comments on that FB article might be as encouraging news as I've heard for a long time. As you say, the vast majority are GC or otherwise anti-Stonewall. People are getting sick of it, and even more importantly, having the guts to say so publicly 💪💪💪.
Worth a spot in the next Good News supplement JL? 😀
JL writes the good news supplement :)
Thank you, corrected! 😊
I’m voting @TonyPhatt’s sarcastic tweet response to the picayune, arcane, ever-evolving ‘trans’ pronoun demands — WINNER of almost forever. His spot-on response re. 'can't-win-no-matter-how-hard-she-trys' Jameel Jamil's unpopular suggestion that people make their pronouns more explicit :
“Yes. It’s entirely unreasonable to make demands and then expect everyone else to go along with them”. A perfectly delicious confection of a tweet.
He is very good. I follow him on Twitter.
I did too.
The Strangio tweet was a real tweet, but sensibly deleted later.
It was good for a giggle though
A 'girl' with a dick is not like any angel in any way - with or without wings. Hmmm. Wait. Wasn't there a really really bad angel with wings?
A girl with a dick and an angel with wings are both imaginary creatures
Yep Satan the father of the lie.
"You are from your father the Devil, and you wish to do the desires of your father.+ That one was a murderer when he began,+ and he did not stand fast in the truth, because truth is not in him. When he speaks the lie, he speaks according to his own disposition, because he is a liar and the father of the lie"
John 8:44
Hard to believe that the Welsh Government claims they're somehow "protecting " children by indoctrinating them into Woke ideology and lying to them that sex is " assigned " at birth , This is gross !! They are just as much a disgrace as the Scottish Government Hope more and more parents join this fight. 🙏 THEY are the real protectors of children. So glad my children and grandchildren are grown up .💔😭👎😈
Just started reading JK Rowling's latest novel ( The Ink Black Heart ).❤️👏👍
Me too! Started on Saturday & have done little else since. Initially found the online convos a bit odd to read but 600+ pages in I'm utterly captured 🖤
So am I 👍👏
I just discovered a YouTube channel called Jalida Vines, with absolutely wrenching testimony about her detransition.
Thanks to Petal, who let me know that the photos in my memoir don't come through on kindle. Anyone who cannot afford the book and would like excerpts can find 3 at womenarehuman.com in the Books/Media section, and further, if you cannot afford the book, you can contact me on the form at my blog. If you are in the US, I can send you a review copy, no charge. You'd obviously have to give me your mailing address.
Ute Heggen, author, In the Curated Woods, True Tales of a Grass Widow (iuniverse, 2022)
uteheggengrasswidow.wordpress.com
Your Substack just gets better and better Graham, I have trouble keeping up with the multitude of events and issues that hit on a daily basis - and I try to keep tabs on what's going on in other countries too. But it's too much sometimes to follow everything, but you have a neat way of summarising and commenting (pithy as ever) and just putting it in front of us. I recycle some of your material (and gcnews.substack.com ) as screenshots which I use as mini-pixels for some of the GC art that I'm making with appropriated images. I'm a UK artist in real life, but can't afford any more trauma (or loss of work) by speaking out publicly incase others identify our trans champion child and threaten a deeper estrangement with our daughter (if that were possible). My wife has suffered terribly through this and we're learning slowly how to live with the fallout. The screenshot art I make and upload helps bring readers to my "pinned" substack story We Used To Have A Daughter; about the grooming, indoctrination and radicalisation of our daughter who has estranged us now for 4 years. I write about the cult that keeps her captive and the grief and trauma it's cost us, her loving parents. I'm also trying to reach out to men, because they're just not getting it, are they. Our daughter now has a magnificent new gender identity built on the back of OUR erasure, and my substack is the living proof for any politician or lawmaker who dares to peep behind the curtain, that we (as her parents) are the living proof that YOU were right, that Helen Joyce is right, that Sue Evans was right, that Dr Az is right, Jo Bartosch, Simon Edge, and all the best writers and thinkers involved in the pushback ARE RIGHT. I'm guilty of conversion therapy because I "didn't immediately affirm" our daughters new identity. Well fuck me, what a world we live in. I can't even call out the people who abused our daughter, so I have to write about it and make images, true to my authentic self, instead dentonyogacarter.substack.com
"A girl without a dick is like an angel without wings" - quite apart from being jaw-droppingly misogynistic - way to prove us wrong about the religious cult angle 😳
Timing is of course, everything. Frances Coppola's infamous 'transing tomboys' Twitter thread (https://twitter.com/Frances_Coppola/status/1554044572724068352?cxt=HHwWgIC8pcTTiZErAAAA) was issued on Monday 1st August.
Just the night before - Sunday 31st July, The Lionesses beat Germany 2-1 at Wembley Stadium to be crowned Women's European Football Champions.
Only 6 weeks before, Lesbians United had launched its 'Save The Tomboys' campaign across selected US cities (https://www.feministcurrent.com/2022/06/15/whats-current-lesbians-united-fights-back-against-gender-ideology-homophobia-with-save-the-tomboys-campaign/) in an effort to oppose the homophobic-led policies of 'transing' tomboys.
Coincidence? Coppola tried (and fails miserably) to trans Enid Blyton's George - a tomboy, within 24 hours of The Lionesses winning a key football match? Maybe, but it seemed a very strange response, particularly when TRA's were already fuming that young women should even be allowed to play soccer and not be transed. I noted in earlier threads that I could envisage Coppola screaming at the telly throughout the game on the Sunday that all 22 players and subs should have been transed, on the grounds that most, if not all, would have been tomboys in adolescence.
So Coppola remains a sort of enigma, wrapped in a mouldy cheese sandwich. Ostensibly she identifies herself as a left-leaning economist, though I doubt the (real) British Left appreciate her banking past, let alone her TRA credentials. On the other side is that forthright demand to be seen as a TRA extremist.
And should we be surprised? The GC side? That's just debate, researched books, public meetings, essays, coffee mornings, knitting, artwork, protest demos. No way would that be exciting. Not when you can be on the TRA side with its constant issuing of death-and-rape threats, cancel culture, anti-science rhetoric, liaison with modern police, rewriting history and literature...
In her defence though, it should be said that if the TRA cause didn't exist, Coppola would likely have been drawn to something else with a similar vocabulary. The 9/11 'Troofers' share a lot with the TRA's, as do the Lunar Landing Hoax proponents, The Sandy Hook conspiracy theorists inspired by Alex Jones, the JFK 'grassy knoll' bunch, Pearl Harbour as a 'false flag' operation...the list is endless. But the language employed is identical and if she hadn't adopted the TRA/incel perspective, I'm sure something else would have appealed to her.
What isn't quite clear is why Frances demanded her image be removed from the list of receipts on an earlier Glinner posting. Not when her visage is plastered all over the Web in the first place.
It is though clear that Frances Coppola is positioning herself as being one of the UK's leading TRA extremists. Others seem to be trying to get away from any association with the 'cause' as rapidly-as-possible. Owen Jones for instance is trying frantically to immerse himself in economic issues, but is hamstrung by his excessive use of the 'block' button against women. Monty has been working for the GC cause for over-a-year now (the call for 'debate' was a deliberate low blow against the TRA's). Prior has probably always been a double-agent. And Jolyon? Well his attack on leftist Nick Cohen just as Cohen had launched into the Tories (again) places his allegiances in doubt.
Into that vacuum only India Willoughby and Coppola are actively working for the TRA cause. Harris is busted flush. Willoughby makes every effort to come over as bonkers. The Scottish Actor has disappeared for-the-moment.
Coppola, despite a recent hiccup with the TRA mob, might just be contemplating promoting herself as the nation's leading TRA extremist. That Tweet, inside a day of The Lionesses beating Germany might have come over as crass and ill-judged. But I reckon that was her application form.