Via @IanGee2020. I still find it dizzying that people pretend to believe these chaps are women. HOW WILL YOU LIVE THIS DOWN, JON RONSON? Ash Sarkar getting nervous Person who thinks men should be allowed into women’s spaces doesn’t like the word ‘groomer'.
Hey you, Ash Sarkar. It’s bad enough that kids are mostly abused by those known to them, so instead of working to increase safeguarding — you support giving free rein to umpteen opportunistic paedophiles. Thanks for adding to the already near-unbearable trauma kids already endure.
She's confused and incoherent again and I wonder how she still has a job pushing this crap. Her inability to grasp CSE and CSA, inability to realise what grooming is and who groomers are is disturbing. There was a case in the news only recently where a 13/14 year old girl was raped and impregnated by a man known to the family who had adopted a 'trans' identity.
Yes, I saw that. How terrifying must that have been for the young girl? Being raped by a 'woman'? Psychic horror piled onto physical and emotional trauma. This ideology has the capacity to inflict endless new ways to suffer.
I wish those like Ash would try to understand just for a moment the impact on that young girl and on her life. There was some discussion over her not being able to describe or understand what had happened as abuse. Well when you describe men as women what bloody chance did she have, of course she didn't have the words, they've all been tipped upside down and mean the total opposite thanks to Ash and the be nice at all costs gender brigade.
And all media who described that as a woman making the girl pregnant, how the hell did that happen, it's physically impossible. It's not consensual ffs, so it's rape because how can you consent to your own abuse.
Ash Sarker, 'golden girl', at the Guardian . So good to listen to Hadley Freeman on Woman’s Hour yesterday. So interesting to hear more details of Hadley's experiences at the Guardian. Apparently after visits from the lobbying group "All about Trans', 2 of Hadley Freeman's previously written articles were 'condemned'.......by staff at the Guardian, as it was decided the articles were transphobic'.
I don't think Ash Sarkar, etc, is going to reflect with empathy on the impact children being sexually abused by men identifying as woman makes on the child. Children aren't part of the narrative, so neither is their safety. Regarding the WiiSpa incident, when a man exposed his genitals to a young girl, Laurie Penny didn't focus on what the man was doing with his dick, and certainly not on why a dick was in this space to begin with, or how the girl he exposed himself too had been affected. She - sorry, they, was more concerned that the girl was staring, and how rude it was to stare. Don't notice the children or what happens to them, there's only room for the member of one vulnerable group, the most marginalised one.
As with all the men and compliant women who help to put women and girls in danger and pretend there is no danger, Sturgeon, for example. I want every one of them to be obliged to explain their denial and their actions. Let's hear them come up with a compelling argument for defending allowing biological men in spaces intended for women and girls, not them. Whether it's changing room, swimming pools, hospital wards, the Girlguiding association or prisons. Not the usual bullshit rhetoric or 'transwomen are women' incantation, but a coherent and convincing argument.
No quoting of misleading statistics about how many trans people attempt suicide or are constantly discriminated against.
It's essentially what women are being asked to do. Close your eyes, look away, whatever. Except it's not so easy because the owner of the dick is going to do his best to ensure you see it.
She has a job pushing this crap because the rich upper classes want her to. I don't know if she genuinely believes she's "literally a communist" but she's a useful idiot for the rich, pushing their talking points while shutting out actual left-wingers, and that can be quite lucrative. She and Owen Jones behaved disgracefully to leading members of the RMT a while back and tried to discredit them and call them all sorts of names, right when the trade unions needed public support. It's an uphill battle for us "old left" when this is what the media classes have claiming to represent us.
Yeah, unfortunately it's not either/or-- children who've been abused by those known to them are then at much higher risk of being abused by sexual predators in general, who are always on the lookout for potential victims, meaning the vulnerable... and what makes children the most vulnerable of all is having already been abused. Which predators specialize in detecting.
And they must be cheering and laughing to see bloody Ash Sarkar pointing everyone in the opposite direction and carrying on with her mass disinformation campaign. She takes deliberate naivety to new levels of stupidity. Like she gives a flying fuck, she really is clueless.
That 6 months on HRT (consistently misnamed because these hormones are not 'replacing' men's naturally occurring hormones) thread WAS funny -- even if it shouldn't have been.
And I don't think these dudes are taking the creams or gels (a much better way for women to get estrogen if they need it). They're taking oral estrogen which is very hard on the liver. And I can't imagine how much booze they drink to think they look one iota different.
I noticed many months ago that suddenly MSM were talking about women's menopause problems, and wondered in my paranoid way whether we were being groomed to expect a rise in demand for oestrogen.
They are, but pharmaceutical suppliers and Govt gaslighting Women saying there’s no shortage according to Caroline Criado Perez’s latest blog. Men’s Money trumps Womens’s actual medical and safety needs as usual.
Well, yeah, definitely. She's got to be expelled from the LGBTQ+ community supporters and beneficiaries society because she expressed an opinion on men potentially intruding into women's spaces? Not that it's needed, but it emphasises the disconnect between LGB and the T. The latter doesn't belong there. Just like trans women don't belong in lesbian dating pools. Being lesbian or gay is a sexual orientation or identity not a gender identity. The 'queering' of homosexuality to fit in colonisers is not acceptable, it's highly objectionable.
It's a sub! First on Reddit (before the Great Purge of anyone and everyone who declined to kiss the trans-ring), now in exile on Saidit. (Unfortunately the latter platform is also a haven for conspiracy theorists convinced that Jews/the Illuminati/lizard people/Jewish Illuminati lizard people secretly run the world, but they steer clear of our little corner of it).
She cares only about her career. When the debacle over JKR being accused of transphobia, despite not saying anything transphobic, Watson and co quickly wanted to disassociate themselves from the woman who enabled them to become multimillionaires.
But Watson has really gone for it, attacking JK and making herself a poster girl for trans activism, including praising Mermaids and donating money to them. Things aren't looking good for that organisation right now, and let's hope it gets far worse over the coming months. What's Watson going to do then? Claim it's more evidence of rampant transphobia and risk her credibility and career?
This does have similarities with the Jimmy Savile scandal. He wasn't really a charity fundraiser, or an employee of Broadmoor hospital, just as most of the men claiming to be transsexual aren't, like Savile they are predatory men, some are paedophiles, who are taking advantage of an opportunity that's been handed over to them with no regard for the effect it would have on women and children. But now they know, some probably always knew, but they're going to allow it to continue anyway.
As an aging woman, I don't usually like to insult other aging women, but she really is an old bag. I had a friend who bought into that Satanic Panic crap, obviously a friend whose bullshit meter was broken.
NOw we know Emma Watson is on the board of Balenciaga new questions arise. The men in this company are beyond disgusting and disreputable so is it possible she knew nothing about what they were involved in? She’s a graduate so must be familiar with how basic research is done.
It's great that Sheffield has seen off Eddie Izzard. Let's not forget though, that in the same constituency (Sheffield Central), the Green Party has suspended its parliamentary candidate for making gendercritical comments (including one about Izzard's use of female toilets). Alison Teal was a hardworking councillor, and a leader of the Sheffield Tree campaign, for which she risked imprisonment. She has been hounded by transgenderists for speaking out.
Diane Ehrensaft listing examples of "gender messages" could just as easily be listing common traits associated with autism. Tearing off clothes or hair accessories, not because the kid somehow already knows which sex stereotype those things belong to and wants to reject them, but because the texture is uncomfortable and sets off their sensory issues. I did all those things! I was just a normal kid with Asperger's Syndrome. All I needed was talking therapy and ed psych support, she'd have had me sterilised, for fuck's sake. And, let's not forget, autism spectrum conditions are hereditary, making it a (probably unintentional) eugenics campaign against us. Scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds, they say.
Old commies mainly. Us old leftists who are sick of the neoliberal takeover of all our campaigns and groups. For their part they call us all terfs and tankies and Stalinists and class reductionists and whatever else. We never changed, they just decided they wanted to call themselves left and thought the actually existing socialists were an inconvenience to them doing that.
What a great summation! I too am a long-time radical leftist and I don't accept that these flabby liberals and progressives are left or even know what left is. Let's see, they support Nazism, pedophilia, censorship, and everything else under the sun we associate with fascism. They took over our local peace and justice centers and sent me an email asking me to sign a petition supporting the FBI! Unfuckingbelievable. No consciousness, no critical analysis, no empathy, just weapons-grade moral superiority, another spot-on term I got from a commenter on here (Ewen, I think).
I love the phrase Scratch a liberal, a fascist bleeds, so damn much I'm going to put it on a card and tape it to the back of my car.
It's so sad that all all these dudes are taking cross sex hormones that used to be available via postal order in the back of porn mags instead of getting the years of counselling they need.
Are these men aff their heids (as we’d say in Scotland)? They look exactly the same after six months on HRT except for the odd head tilt and shocking hair style!
Woo, woo, people of Sheffield. You know a woman when you see one. Pity the rest of the Labour Party doesn’t.
I like to think the woman in denim speaking to Eddie Izzard is pointing and saying, 'The Gents are over there'.
Hey you, Ash Sarkar. It’s bad enough that kids are mostly abused by those known to them, so instead of working to increase safeguarding — you support giving free rein to umpteen opportunistic paedophiles. Thanks for adding to the already near-unbearable trauma kids already endure.
She's confused and incoherent again and I wonder how she still has a job pushing this crap. Her inability to grasp CSE and CSA, inability to realise what grooming is and who groomers are is disturbing. There was a case in the news only recently where a 13/14 year old girl was raped and impregnated by a man known to the family who had adopted a 'trans' identity.
Yes, I saw that. How terrifying must that have been for the young girl? Being raped by a 'woman'? Psychic horror piled onto physical and emotional trauma. This ideology has the capacity to inflict endless new ways to suffer.
I wish those like Ash would try to understand just for a moment the impact on that young girl and on her life. There was some discussion over her not being able to describe or understand what had happened as abuse. Well when you describe men as women what bloody chance did she have, of course she didn't have the words, they've all been tipped upside down and mean the total opposite thanks to Ash and the be nice at all costs gender brigade.
And all media who described that as a woman making the girl pregnant, how the hell did that happen, it's physically impossible. It's not consensual ffs, so it's rape because how can you consent to your own abuse.
Ash Sarker, 'golden girl', at the Guardian . So good to listen to Hadley Freeman on Woman’s Hour yesterday. So interesting to hear more details of Hadley's experiences at the Guardian. Apparently after visits from the lobbying group "All about Trans', 2 of Hadley Freeman's previously written articles were 'condemned'.......by staff at the Guardian, as it was decided the articles were transphobic'.
I don't think Ash Sarkar, etc, is going to reflect with empathy on the impact children being sexually abused by men identifying as woman makes on the child. Children aren't part of the narrative, so neither is their safety. Regarding the WiiSpa incident, when a man exposed his genitals to a young girl, Laurie Penny didn't focus on what the man was doing with his dick, and certainly not on why a dick was in this space to begin with, or how the girl he exposed himself too had been affected. She - sorry, they, was more concerned that the girl was staring, and how rude it was to stare. Don't notice the children or what happens to them, there's only room for the member of one vulnerable group, the most marginalised one.
As with all the men and compliant women who help to put women and girls in danger and pretend there is no danger, Sturgeon, for example. I want every one of them to be obliged to explain their denial and their actions. Let's hear them come up with a compelling argument for defending allowing biological men in spaces intended for women and girls, not them. Whether it's changing room, swimming pools, hospital wards, the Girlguiding association or prisons. Not the usual bullshit rhetoric or 'transwomen are women' incantation, but a coherent and convincing argument.
No quoting of misleading statistics about how many trans people attempt suicide or are constantly discriminated against.
If you see a dick in the ladies' loo, just close your eyes and think of England.
It's essentially what women are being asked to do. Close your eyes, look away, whatever. Except it's not so easy because the owner of the dick is going to do his best to ensure you see it.
She has a job pushing this crap because the rich upper classes want her to. I don't know if she genuinely believes she's "literally a communist" but she's a useful idiot for the rich, pushing their talking points while shutting out actual left-wingers, and that can be quite lucrative. She and Owen Jones behaved disgracefully to leading members of the RMT a while back and tried to discredit them and call them all sorts of names, right when the trade unions needed public support. It's an uphill battle for us "old left" when this is what the media classes have claiming to represent us.
Yes it's only fair that abusers not known to children have a fair chance. Come on!!!!!? #cantlook
Yeah, unfortunately it's not either/or-- children who've been abused by those known to them are then at much higher risk of being abused by sexual predators in general, who are always on the lookout for potential victims, meaning the vulnerable... and what makes children the most vulnerable of all is having already been abused. Which predators specialize in detecting.
And they must be cheering and laughing to see bloody Ash Sarkar pointing everyone in the opposite direction and carrying on with her mass disinformation campaign. She takes deliberate naivety to new levels of stupidity. Like she gives a flying fuck, she really is clueless.
Precisely!
That 6 months on HRT (consistently misnamed because these hormones are not 'replacing' men's naturally occurring hormones) thread WAS funny -- even if it shouldn't have been.
“O, wad some Power the giftie gie us
To see oursels as others see us!
It wad frae monie a blunder free us,
An' foolish notion.”
Quite right, it shouldn't be called HRT for those men, they are taking cross-sex hormones.
Haven't they caused a shortage for women in menopause - seriously I believe so.
I read that there was a shortage of HRT in gel form some time ago, I don't know if that's still the situation.
And I don't think these dudes are taking the creams or gels (a much better way for women to get estrogen if they need it). They're taking oral estrogen which is very hard on the liver. And I can't imagine how much booze they drink to think they look one iota different.
I noticed many months ago that suddenly MSM were talking about women's menopause problems, and wondered in my paranoid way whether we were being groomed to expect a rise in demand for oestrogen.
They are, but pharmaceutical suppliers and Govt gaslighting Women saying there’s no shortage according to Caroline Criado Perez’s latest blog. Men’s Money trumps Womens’s actual medical and safety needs as usual.
No, it shouldn't because it isn't. Men taking oestrogen aren't replacing falling levels of it.
Well this homo loves Kim Woodburn even more now!
https://www.gaytimes.co.uk/life/kim-woodburn-condemned-by-lgbtq-community-for-anti-trans-stance/
Well, yeah, definitely. She's got to be expelled from the LGBTQ+ community supporters and beneficiaries society because she expressed an opinion on men potentially intruding into women's spaces? Not that it's needed, but it emphasises the disconnect between LGB and the T. The latter doesn't belong there. Just like trans women don't belong in lesbian dating pools. Being lesbian or gay is a sexual orientation or identity not a gender identity. The 'queering' of homosexuality to fit in colonisers is not acceptable, it's highly objectionable.
#DropTheT
LGBDropTheT: my home away from home! <3
Is that a site?
It's a sub! First on Reddit (before the Great Purge of anyone and everyone who declined to kiss the trans-ring), now in exile on Saidit. (Unfortunately the latter platform is also a haven for conspiracy theorists convinced that Jews/the Illuminati/lizard people/Jewish Illuminati lizard people secretly run the world, but they steer clear of our little corner of it).
https://saidit.net/s/LGBDropTheT/
You (and your delightful wit) are welcome to stop by anytime, KFP :)
Oh wow thanks ha! Just had a look, and a bit overwhelming! Any smaller DropTheT Discords?
"He’s obviously hoping his New York theatre run is a huge disaster so he can hurry back to help her out."
😄 🤣
i won’t watch emma watson again. shes like a jimmy saville sympathiser. Hopefully producers will feel the same soon.
She cares only about her career. When the debacle over JKR being accused of transphobia, despite not saying anything transphobic, Watson and co quickly wanted to disassociate themselves from the woman who enabled them to become multimillionaires.
But Watson has really gone for it, attacking JK and making herself a poster girl for trans activism, including praising Mermaids and donating money to them. Things aren't looking good for that organisation right now, and let's hope it gets far worse over the coming months. What's Watson going to do then? Claim it's more evidence of rampant transphobia and risk her credibility and career?
This does have similarities with the Jimmy Savile scandal. He wasn't really a charity fundraiser, or an employee of Broadmoor hospital, just as most of the men claiming to be transsexual aren't, like Savile they are predatory men, some are paedophiles, who are taking advantage of an opportunity that's been handed over to them with no regard for the effect it would have on women and children. But now they know, some probably always knew, but they're going to allow it to continue anyway.
No-one:
Diane Ehrensaft: *sings* I believe in angels, something trans in every kid I see...
Seriously, batshit just hit a new low.
Gimme Gimme Gimme (A Biological Man After Midnight).
Man: I Feel Like A Woman
As an aging woman, I don't usually like to insult other aging women, but she really is an old bag. I had a friend who bought into that Satanic Panic crap, obviously a friend whose bullshit meter was broken.
She's a T-Bag. 😄
I feel very sick after having voted for Abtisan Mohamed to read her comment calling out transphobia during the campaign.
These politicians never own up to their support of men ‘becoming’ women during the campaigns, only after securing our votes.
With Eddie Izzard playing Sherlock Holmes, and Emma Watson being, well Emma Watson - they make the worst 'Holmes & Watson' ever! 😁
NOw we know Emma Watson is on the board of Balenciaga new questions arise. The men in this company are beyond disgusting and disreputable so is it possible she knew nothing about what they were involved in? She’s a graduate so must be familiar with how basic research is done.
It's great that Sheffield has seen off Eddie Izzard. Let's not forget though, that in the same constituency (Sheffield Central), the Green Party has suspended its parliamentary candidate for making gendercritical comments (including one about Izzard's use of female toilets). Alison Teal was a hardworking councillor, and a leader of the Sheffield Tree campaign, for which she risked imprisonment. She has been hounded by transgenderists for speaking out.
Diane Ehrensaft listing examples of "gender messages" could just as easily be listing common traits associated with autism. Tearing off clothes or hair accessories, not because the kid somehow already knows which sex stereotype those things belong to and wants to reject them, but because the texture is uncomfortable and sets off their sensory issues. I did all those things! I was just a normal kid with Asperger's Syndrome. All I needed was talking therapy and ed psych support, she'd have had me sterilised, for fuck's sake. And, let's not forget, autism spectrum conditions are hereditary, making it a (probably unintentional) eugenics campaign against us. Scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds, they say.
I don't know who says that, but it's spot on!
Old commies mainly. Us old leftists who are sick of the neoliberal takeover of all our campaigns and groups. For their part they call us all terfs and tankies and Stalinists and class reductionists and whatever else. We never changed, they just decided they wanted to call themselves left and thought the actually existing socialists were an inconvenience to them doing that.
What a great summation! I too am a long-time radical leftist and I don't accept that these flabby liberals and progressives are left or even know what left is. Let's see, they support Nazism, pedophilia, censorship, and everything else under the sun we associate with fascism. They took over our local peace and justice centers and sent me an email asking me to sign a petition supporting the FBI! Unfuckingbelievable. No consciousness, no critical analysis, no empathy, just weapons-grade moral superiority, another spot-on term I got from a commenter on here (Ewen, I think).
I love the phrase Scratch a liberal, a fascist bleeds, so damn much I'm going to put it on a card and tape it to the back of my car.
It's so sad that all all these dudes are taking cross sex hormones that used to be available via postal order in the back of porn mags instead of getting the years of counselling they need.
@Graham Linehan Here is a 2016 tweet from the Samaritans about 'trans' people and suicide.
https://mobile.twitter.com/samaritans/status/774283915636805632
Are these men aff their heids (as we’d say in Scotland)? They look exactly the same after six months on HRT except for the odd head tilt and shocking hair style!
Woo, woo, people of Sheffield. You know a woman when you see one. Pity the rest of the Labour Party doesn’t.
They look no different! Take away the wig/longer hair and nail polish - same man.
I'm Ash Sarkar, here's a statistic completely unrelated to the issue to suit my agenda.