I see Boy George is on Twitter again saying Trans in prisons are not a threat to women. Obviously using women's issues to drum up support for his new music. Shameless sell out.
He can wear full clown make-up with a spinning bow tie if he wants. It makes no difference to his crime or the lack of remorse or an apology to his victim since. I have no idea why he's still in the public eye.
That does jog the memory for a quote that often appears about that song. Seems apt.
"The song is about the terrible fear of alienation that people have, the fear of standing up for one thing. It's about trying to suck up to everybody. Basically, if you aren't true, if you don't act like you feel, then you get Karma-justice, that's nature's way of paying you back."
You can play clips to them showing that they themselves said it and they'll still deny it. It is the most deceitful movement I have ever come across. Which is, I believe, one of the reasons why they are so successful. Most people don't believe anyone would lie to them openly right in their face. Twisting the truth a bit, leaving out a bit - yes, that's what we expect. Outright lies with a straight face - nah. We kinda make ourselves believe that we can somehow spot lies. Which we can't...
Makes you wonder why governments etc are still falling for it !! Just don't want to admit they were wrong and even apologise for the real damage they've caused to real people as well as the fear and worry they've put the rest of us through !!
I watched several women tell a news reporter that it was the Democrats who rioted at the Capitol one year ago. If it wasn't the Democrats, it was antifa or BLM. You are so right, you can show people video, and they will stick with their magical thinking in spite of any evidence. It's called psychosis and it's widespread in the U.S.
Typical of liars !! The evidence that the TRAS penned all this in the first place is overwhelming!! Does this denial by some mean they're on the run at last ? We live in hope 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
Interesting how these government agencies are only consulting with trans organisations on policy, and/or organisations which are trans’ captured. I am currently engaged with the Christchurch City Council (NZ) about their inclusion of male-sexed persons in the women-only session at the new Linwood Pool, and I have also discovered that they only consulted with ‘rainbow’ groups and women’s groups that are trans’ captured about this ‘inclusion’. To date, no male-sexed persons have gone along to the women-only session, in spite of insisting that they should be included (which is a good thing for the women who go along to it), but I’m trying to nip it in the bud before any turn up there.
Maybe true for the English speaking world. Outside, I am afraid that women wouldn't turn up in huge numbers. They would think the whole thing too outlandish to even think about it. And I mean, to most people the idea that anyone could even THINK about men being allowed into women's changing spaces would seem a bit, well, lunatic. And this is probably how this got to be a thing in English speaking countries in the first place.
Oh geez watching that young Tom get buried by hilarious and intelligent women was the highlight of my day yesterday. I feel bad for him, but not really.
Seeing a bunch of self obsessed people wishing for a Communist revolution is amusing. They are all products of neoliberal Capitalism and its exploitation of each and every aspect and property of human beings. They are the personified commodification of the even the most private aspects of us. They are the petty bourgois attempt to escape the grim reality of neoliberal Capitalism by the means of neoliberal Capitalism. Oh, the irony of them wishing for a Communist revolution.
It’s HILARIOUS isn’t it!? They have no bloody idea. It’s a bit like a game of Robin Hood to them. What they know about actual communism probably wouldn’t fill the back of a matchbox. Their views seem to be based around unrealistic ideals, which isn’t quite how it works out…
I listened to Lisa Mackenzie interviewed by Emma Barnett on Woman's Hour yesterday (BBC Sounds). She did not state clearly why gender critical women object to gender self-ID, nor did she mention by name any gender-critical campaigning groups like Fair Play For Women, A Woman's Place UK, etc. She made a lot about "Civil Service impartiality" which is a wonderful principle, but I was disappointed that Ms Mackenzie did not become much MORE PARTIAL in favour of our GC views! Wasted opportunity! Difficult, I know, in a public forum with all the nonsense in Scotland.....
Just finished Mars’ video. Excellent! Logical trans people’s voices are so important in this debate when it comes to this ideology being forced onto children. Mars reframes the usual tropes perfectly.
What's with 'Lady' Katy Montgomerie? Is that the new way of writing 'she/her'? I can't believe Katy is actually the daughter of a duke, marquis or earl. He can't be.
It would be ahem ... interesting... if a titled tw insisted on keeping his heritage due to lineage while insisting he's a woman and having a female title. No doubt it'd be framed as a women's rights issue.
I wonder if any future self ID laws passed in the UK will include exceptions like this. Would Churchs that only accept males as priests be required to accept Transmen? What are the odds that the first woman to become a Catholic priest will have a penis?
Speaking of which: Switzerland just recently introduced Self ID. Of course, completely under the radar. There was no prior public debate, which is highly unusual in Switzerland. Also, I don't know of any referendum on the issue - and the Swiss pretty much vote on anything. https://www.nzz.ch/schweiz/wie-viele-geschlechter-sollen-es-sein-ld.1662440
Yeah, knew that was coming. I'm surprised there haven't been more stories about Trans rights conflicting with religions rights.
Shouldn't there be stories of Churches refusing to marry, say, a trans man and a cis woman on the grounds that they don't perform same sex weddings?
Admittedly I wouldn't be surprised to find that these laws have religious exemptions built in to prevent just this sort if thing. People care when it's religious feelings at stake but not womens...
Totally. Just as the church will approve of gay marriage for men long before they credit women with any rights. Brazil is a great example; gay marriage is legal and I'm not sure if women's reproductive rights are legal now, but they weren't when gay marriage was legalized.
Do you know if the ruling applies to employees, businesses, or both? Could a baker in the employ of a bakery that supports gay marriage refuse to decorate a cake with a pro gay marriage message?
I kept going back and forth on the issue. I asked myself, if I was a baker tasked with baking a cake with the message "support tradition marriage" on it, could I do it? If I couldn't, should my employer be able to fire me?
As long as the message isn't illegal (but even then imagine a world where decorating a cake with the words 'Woman: Adult Human Female' fell into the category of hate speech) do I have a duty to be impartial in the delivery of my services?
The problematic thing is that this decision extends to businesses, not so much to people. This now enables corporations to withold access to contraceptives or abortions to their employees on corporate sponsored health insurances, if the owners think it is against their religious beliefs. In essence, it enables business owners to force their religious beliefs on their employees on the legal fiction that a company has a right to religious freedom and freedom of speech. Whereas individuals still have no basic protection against compelled speech.
OK, I thought it was about US Supreme Court decisions. In which case, Hobby Lobby is exactly about that. If you were speaking of Britain, this wouldn't apply, because people have NHS coverage anyways.
If the bakery/baker had been asked to decorate the cake with the line 'Ashers Supports Gay Marriage' then it'd be an open and shut case for me, but 'Support Gay Marriage' is a bit like 'Happy Birthday' on a cake. No one expects the decorator of a cake, or the baker, or the owner of the bakery to really give two shits about how happy a birthday the recipient of the cake has. No one thinks the baker of the cake is personally wishing the birthday boy/girl/man/women a happy one, it's just business.
My worry is that this ruling can be used by advertisers and publishers to flatout refuse a contract from GC groups to put up billboards or to print fliers or leaflets or books on the grounds that it's against their values even if the GC group is paying up front.
From a certain point of view it makes sense, but I think there's a case that a certain amount of impartiality should be expected from individuals and business, just like we expect from universities and government offices. If I was a baker who was asked to bake a cake with the words 'Trans Women Are Women' on it I could see myself doing it, but asked if I believed it I'd say no. I suppose if my employer asked me to publicly state that 'Trans Women Are Women' I'd have to draw the line there as the words would be coming out of my mouth.
I see Boy George is on Twitter again saying Trans in prisons are not a threat to women. Obviously using women's issues to drum up support for his new music. Shameless sell out.
Male convicted for beating a male escort says males are not a threat to women.
Male who wears make-up, no less.
He can wear full clown make-up with a spinning bow tie if he wants. It makes no difference to his crime or the lack of remorse or an apology to his victim since. I have no idea why he's still in the public eye.
He's a man without conviction
That does jog the memory for a quote that often appears about that song. Seems apt.
"The song is about the terrible fear of alienation that people have, the fear of standing up for one thing. It's about trying to suck up to everybody. Basically, if you aren't true, if you don't act like you feel, then you get Karma-justice, that's nature's way of paying you back."
Very good 👏
So now TWAW is not said by trans & tras! like they never said you can change sex!
there is no foundation for this ideology so it has no stable doctrines!
You can play clips to them showing that they themselves said it and they'll still deny it. It is the most deceitful movement I have ever come across. Which is, I believe, one of the reasons why they are so successful. Most people don't believe anyone would lie to them openly right in their face. Twisting the truth a bit, leaving out a bit - yes, that's what we expect. Outright lies with a straight face - nah. We kinda make ourselves believe that we can somehow spot lies. Which we can't...
Makes you wonder why governments etc are still falling for it !! Just don't want to admit they were wrong and even apologise for the real damage they've caused to real people as well as the fear and worry they've put the rest of us through !!
I watched several women tell a news reporter that it was the Democrats who rioted at the Capitol one year ago. If it wasn't the Democrats, it was antifa or BLM. You are so right, you can show people video, and they will stick with their magical thinking in spite of any evidence. It's called psychosis and it's widespread in the U.S.
Typical of liars !! The evidence that the TRAS penned all this in the first place is overwhelming!! Does this denial by some mean they're on the run at last ? We live in hope 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
Interesting how these government agencies are only consulting with trans organisations on policy, and/or organisations which are trans’ captured. I am currently engaged with the Christchurch City Council (NZ) about their inclusion of male-sexed persons in the women-only session at the new Linwood Pool, and I have also discovered that they only consulted with ‘rainbow’ groups and women’s groups that are trans’ captured about this ‘inclusion’. To date, no male-sexed persons have gone along to the women-only session, in spite of insisting that they should be included (which is a good thing for the women who go along to it), but I’m trying to nip it in the bud before any turn up there.
Scollor have form on this too - they only consult captured groups dependent on them for funding
ScotGov !
Maybe true for the English speaking world. Outside, I am afraid that women wouldn't turn up in huge numbers. They would think the whole thing too outlandish to even think about it. And I mean, to most people the idea that anyone could even THINK about men being allowed into women's changing spaces would seem a bit, well, lunatic. And this is probably how this got to be a thing in English speaking countries in the first place.
I love Kids in the Hall. Shamefully underrated sketch show.
Also among the best intro tunes. Up there with Ted!
I see professional gaslighter Montgomerie is still at it. TWAW is only said by GC people? Pulled that one out of our arses did we? Ffs.
They still swing that one out, either as a final squawk or before the terf smear.
Thank you for these Digests - invaluable!
I really like them too! Very useful to share and... peak!
Good work Emma Hilton and Moley!
Thanks!
Oh geez watching that young Tom get buried by hilarious and intelligent women was the highlight of my day yesterday. I feel bad for him, but not really.
When can we look forward to Glinner's Gettr?
Seeing a bunch of self obsessed people wishing for a Communist revolution is amusing. They are all products of neoliberal Capitalism and its exploitation of each and every aspect and property of human beings. They are the personified commodification of the even the most private aspects of us. They are the petty bourgois attempt to escape the grim reality of neoliberal Capitalism by the means of neoliberal Capitalism. Oh, the irony of them wishing for a Communist revolution.
It’s HILARIOUS isn’t it!? They have no bloody idea. It’s a bit like a game of Robin Hood to them. What they know about actual communism probably wouldn’t fill the back of a matchbox. Their views seem to be based around unrealistic ideals, which isn’t quite how it works out…
Nutty Monty at it again, eh....No longer knows what truth/lies are any longer....all blurred into total insanity.
The Kids in the Hall! I used to go see the taping of the show. They were so fun!
I listened to Lisa Mackenzie interviewed by Emma Barnett on Woman's Hour yesterday (BBC Sounds). She did not state clearly why gender critical women object to gender self-ID, nor did she mention by name any gender-critical campaigning groups like Fair Play For Women, A Woman's Place UK, etc. She made a lot about "Civil Service impartiality" which is a wonderful principle, but I was disappointed that Ms Mackenzie did not become much MORE PARTIAL in favour of our GC views! Wasted opportunity! Difficult, I know, in a public forum with all the nonsense in Scotland.....
Just finished Mars’ video. Excellent! Logical trans people’s voices are so important in this debate when it comes to this ideology being forced onto children. Mars reframes the usual tropes perfectly.
What's with 'Lady' Katy Montgomerie? Is that the new way of writing 'she/her'? I can't believe Katy is actually the daughter of a duke, marquis or earl. He can't be.
No idea. But in this case he'd keep his full inheritance rights linked to male lineage. Speaking of privilege...
It would be ahem ... interesting... if a titled tw insisted on keeping his heritage due to lineage while insisting he's a woman and having a female title. No doubt it'd be framed as a women's rights issue.
I wonder if any future self ID laws passed in the UK will include exceptions like this. Would Churchs that only accept males as priests be required to accept Transmen? What are the odds that the first woman to become a Catholic priest will have a penis?
There is a man in Belgium who is trying to become a nun. I kid you not. The Catholic Church isn't having it. So far.
Speaking of which: Switzerland just recently introduced Self ID. Of course, completely under the radar. There was no prior public debate, which is highly unusual in Switzerland. Also, I don't know of any referendum on the issue - and the Swiss pretty much vote on anything. https://www.nzz.ch/schweiz/wie-viele-geschlechter-sollen-es-sein-ld.1662440
Yeah, knew that was coming. I'm surprised there haven't been more stories about Trans rights conflicting with religions rights.
Shouldn't there be stories of Churches refusing to marry, say, a trans man and a cis woman on the grounds that they don't perform same sex weddings?
Admittedly I wouldn't be surprised to find that these laws have religious exemptions built in to prevent just this sort if thing. People care when it's religious feelings at stake but not womens...
With self ID, "trans identifying" people would be as privileged as religious institutions are. Would be fun to see how that plays out.
Totally. Just as the church will approve of gay marriage for men long before they credit women with any rights. Brazil is a great example; gay marriage is legal and I'm not sure if women's reproductive rights are legal now, but they weren't when gay marriage was legalized.
Do you know if the ruling applies to employees, businesses, or both? Could a baker in the employ of a bakery that supports gay marriage refuse to decorate a cake with a pro gay marriage message?
I kept going back and forth on the issue. I asked myself, if I was a baker tasked with baking a cake with the message "support tradition marriage" on it, could I do it? If I couldn't, should my employer be able to fire me?
As long as the message isn't illegal (but even then imagine a world where decorating a cake with the words 'Woman: Adult Human Female' fell into the category of hate speech) do I have a duty to be impartial in the delivery of my services?
The problematic thing is that this decision extends to businesses, not so much to people. This now enables corporations to withold access to contraceptives or abortions to their employees on corporate sponsored health insurances, if the owners think it is against their religious beliefs. In essence, it enables business owners to force their religious beliefs on their employees on the legal fiction that a company has a right to religious freedom and freedom of speech. Whereas individuals still have no basic protection against compelled speech.
Typing quickly but I doubt it would apply to contraceptive or abortion access. Just compelled speech.
OK, I thought it was about US Supreme Court decisions. In which case, Hobby Lobby is exactly about that. If you were speaking of Britain, this wouldn't apply, because people have NHS coverage anyways.
If the bakery/baker had been asked to decorate the cake with the line 'Ashers Supports Gay Marriage' then it'd be an open and shut case for me, but 'Support Gay Marriage' is a bit like 'Happy Birthday' on a cake. No one expects the decorator of a cake, or the baker, or the owner of the bakery to really give two shits about how happy a birthday the recipient of the cake has. No one thinks the baker of the cake is personally wishing the birthday boy/girl/man/women a happy one, it's just business.
My worry is that this ruling can be used by advertisers and publishers to flatout refuse a contract from GC groups to put up billboards or to print fliers or leaflets or books on the grounds that it's against their values even if the GC group is paying up front.
From a certain point of view it makes sense, but I think there's a case that a certain amount of impartiality should be expected from individuals and business, just like we expect from universities and government offices. If I was a baker who was asked to bake a cake with the words 'Trans Women Are Women' on it I could see myself doing it, but asked if I believed it I'd say no. I suppose if my employer asked me to publicly state that 'Trans Women Are Women' I'd have to draw the line there as the words would be coming out of my mouth.