Great to see just how much Stonewall et alia cares about children. No-one is trying to prevent or talk ADULTS out of " transitioning" if that's what they really want ,as long as they've thought it through although I don't think it should be paid for by the cash strapped NHS. Children ,on the other hand ,need protection from indoctrination by this damaging cult ,and therefore therapy and " watchful waiting " is the best course of action for them
That's NOT " conversion therapy" , it's protecting children from lifelong irreversible damage and regret.!! Transitioning children to validate an adult agenda is pure evil any way you look at it.! 👎😭 Thank you , Graham,for this post ♥️
RE. tantrum-like angry toddler poop threats -- so, in addition to metaphorically shitting on women, they have descended from metaphor to literal excrement. A new twist on the various toys being thrown from the pram. As for "Parsley", please please let this be his comeuppance. More than a slap on the wrist, an apology, a donation. Dolores Umbrage's snitch brigade could take lessons from this Master Snitch. He needs to be carried off into the woods by incensed centaurs. As for paedophilic men who identify as toddlers -- aren't they included under the "trans" umbrella? And finally, OJ, that puberty-blocked little man. A regular Malfoy.
It is one view that Mr. Parsley returned to Twitter for one reason only. That is, to 'play the victim' and as a result have some degree of peculiar personal action in terms of gaining sympathy in some way. (From whom, I am unsure - perhaps his legion of worshipping acolytes... or Owen Jones)
Well, I would perhaps proffer that his latest 'ill-advised' Tweet to JK Rowling may well result in a certain degree of 'action' of another kind. That which may involve an official communication from 'chambers'.
Saying you hold an opinion isn’t defamatory in Scotland. It cost Stuart Campbell nearly quarter of a million quid to find that out when he sued Kezia Dugdale.
She may get a retraction by the threat of legal action because fighting a defamation case against a billionaire will leave you destroyed irrespective of the outcome.
But you guys would be against the suppression of speech by billionaires yeah?
I don’t know quite what kind of legal expert you are, but a number of actual ones (including at least one Scottish QC) were on JKR’s timeline pointing out that it’s unlikely ManAtBusstop’s wording avoids the tort.
And you’re of course wrong about the “billionaire” thing: a sign of your deep research no doubt. As is well-documented, JKR made herself a billionaire (from poverty) by her own creative efforts, and a millionaire by her own generosity & refusal to dodge taxes.
But maybe you could let us know at what income level you think it’s OK to be subjected to baseless accusations of being a danger to children?
And where your income stands in relation to that line?
It's not clear that Alison Bailey understands that in Scotland (not England) comments that are found by the court to be defamatory still have the defence of fair comment. Kezia Dugdale's comments about Campbell, saying he was “someone who spouts hatred and homophobia towards others” was found defamatory but defendable as fair comment.
As ever there's a bunch of subtlety and context that would feed into any judgement but I don't think any of this is understood or in consideration by 99% of the people passing judgement right now.
Hey, happy to modify my comments to say multi millionaire or dollar billionaire if that helps but the general principle still stands. She has access to resources that mean you can use the court system to suppress speech you don't like.
FWIW I don't think she's that vindictive. We'll see.
You have neglected to supply us with the precise income level above which you think people should be subject to baseless accusations of endangering children without recourse to legal protection.
And no: I wasn’t referring to Alison Bailey, though I’m looking forward to the court case at the end of the month.
Alison Bailey is on twitter incorrectly saying commentary isn't a defence in a defamation action.
You don't need to editorialise your question (baseless accusations!) but I think that access to the legal system should be equitable and the punishments for misuse proportionate to the a persons wealth to raise the stakes for anyone bringing a frivolous lawsuit.
What damage do you think Paisley has done to Rowling's repuation and what losses has she suffered because of his tweet?
Is he a significant opinion maker wreaking widespread damage or just ManAtBusstop?
You think saying a children’s author is a danger to children is fair comment? For the defence to apply: (1) the statement must be a comment and not an assertion of fact; (2) it must make sufficient reference to facts which were true and on which the comment could be based; and (3) it must be fair. Prefacing a libellous statement with ‘I think this’ doesn’t protect you otherwise it would be a free for all!
I think it’d count, he’s made clear that his statement represents an opinion. He’s detailed the facts that lead him to that opinion and it’s of public interest.
Whether it’s a fair comment would be arguable as would whether the facts hold water, that she’s promoting someone who advocates trans conversion therapy.
I would say from a non-expert perspective Paisley’s statements are a lot more guarded than those of Dugdale about Campbell, which found for the defendant in the original trial and appeal.
Whatever fyffes is up to here (and he being a reader of Dominic Cummings I doubt it's a gender agenda) I think pointing out that there's an essential difference between saying "in my opinion JK Rowling is a danger to children" and saying "JK Rowling is a danger to children", is important, since an opinion you can pick up anywhere including your own navel, whereas saying abruptly "JK Rowling is a danger to children" implies or at least suggests that you might have some evidence of that. (Which Paisley of course doesn't have.) I'm not a lawyer either so that's only my opinion that the second case would be much closer to libel.
Not that I wouldn't be as delighted as anyone to see the toad grilled in court, but I get jittery when I feel a lynching mood rising whoever the intended victim. It's after all what Paisley does all the time.
So you admit you're here to throw shit? Just because you've paid a small amount of money you think that gives you licence to act like this?
Rattled my cage? Nope. What a patronising way to engage, which you are clearly not here to do. You bore me. When I see your name, like clockwork, it leads me to skimming what you write, as like always, it's nasty. Like the subjects of this post, I am bored with the lot of you and how you interact with others. You labour your points endlessly. We get it.
Who are you to determine what I think or what I find contentious? Is that it? Is it all about desperately, needily trying to be contentious with you? You troll, argue and slap down others and I wonder if you act like this in real life too. You are pitiable.
Life is short mate, try to value your time, leave others alone, try not to continually pick fights and find holes in arguments where there are none.
If anyone is guilty of oppressive behaviour/suppression of speech, it’s Ribbons MacBusstop, who uses the police as his personal harassment squad against women standing up for women and girls rights and the importance of safeguarding measures.
I don’t think there was anything written on those bedsheets that qualifies as standing up for women and girls rights and the importance of safeguarding measures.
The most surprising thing about those photos is that people in them hadn’t cut holes in the sheets and put them on their heads.
Re: the saddest thread. What I find shocking - and depressing - is just how many of them there are. All these confused, lonely, porn-addled young men are now hellbent on dismantling women’s rights. To protect their new identities. And I bet half of them are coders and most are able to spend 24/7 on the internet whipping up the illusion that they represent majority opinion (they definitely do not).
True. My friend's autistic and extremely weird husband is now trans and he was a coder for many years. I'm sure he suddenly realised his transness at 33 from being on the Internet all damn day supposedly "working"... as she slogs it as a midwife
Green Party canvasser - pleasant woman - knocked on my door at the W/end. Said yes I did have a question: what is a woman. Watched the blush spread over her face. Said if I want the candidate - a bloke - will come & explain it to me. I wondered aloud how he would know, if she & I didn’t.
She then said this is about trans rights. I pointed out that it’s about women’s existence & rights: the science & the law. The Greens used to be the party that believed in science. She began “The science is that gender...” and I’m sorry to say I laughed aloud.
I might have been a bit too scornful, but it’s tough not to.
Good for you. I would do the same but I've never seen a canvasser for years ,not at my door at least.!! Nowadays ,I have posters in my window which proclaim " Woman = Adult Human Female ",along with others about single sex spaces etc, so if there are any canvassers in the area ,they might be put off !!
So am I! Outside of biology, (Gender refers to groups and populations, not individuals) science says nothing that I am aware of on 'gender' in the same way that science says nothing about 'The Ether', because it doesn't exist.
I can live without the tooth fairy and the gender demon but I love the idea of a soul. Don’t know what it is or where it is but I am sure I have one somewhere.
Well, I’m sure she went away thinking I was horribly hostile. If my ankles & knees hadn’t been so painful I’d have maybe put a bit more effort in to talking to her.
And today I get a flyer from the candidate. Absolutely crammed with photos. He doesn’t seem to know any women though, as there are none in any of the pics...
If Owen Jones had a brain, the question he would be asking is why does Twitter allow and enable pornography, full stop. It's crazy the extent to which the American tech companies have normalised the presence of pornography.
I'm sorry this is probably a stupid question... but are OWEN JONES & BILLY BRAGG aware that children and young people are being used as pawns for gender identity ideology, which has been around for about 15 minutes, Are they aware that children and young people are being EXPERIMENTED on with puberty blockers and affirming them to believe they're something they can never be, Are they aware of the Dangers of wrong sex hormones on young girls as highlighted by Elaine Miller? Are they aware that having 'GENDER DYSPHORIA' does not make a man a woman, in fact its a mental health condition that requires proper treatment and care. Are they aware of clusters of friends 'RESEARCHING' online about 'Trans' and coming to the conclusion they must also be 'Trans', its called the Barnham Effect/Forer effect, for e.g. Have you ever felt trapped? or Have you ever felt like you don't quite fit in? Then you must be 'Trans'. Mix that with teenage victim culture after spending 8 hours a day everyday online. Its 'called SOCIAL CONTAGION'.
Are they aware of the heart-breaking testimonies of 'DETRANSITIONERS' who were all 'Trans' until they weren't. If genders a social construct then what the hells the cross sex hormones for?? Are they aware that this is the 'Stanley Milgrim Experiment' on Children??? This is one of the biggest Medical Scandals of all time and to anyone in positions of influence and power; YOU EITHER KNOW OR YOU SHOULD KNOW.
To Owen Jones, Billy Bragg & Stonewall ; Get down from your Big Horse and Stop playing politics with this issue.
For all these young lives being corrupted by far too much free online porn, reddit & Tumblr groomers who worship judith butlers queer theory. Just remember in the human brain, the pre-frontal cortex is still developing until 25-30 years old.
The internet is an abyss, don't stare at it to long, You're living in a digital dream world, come back to reality
Well, there's a coincidence! Whenever I get "be kind" from someone I challenge them to go on Twitter, search "she/her" and see how many anime picture profiles they can click on before they find porn. I recently asked the same question under one of OJ's Youtube videos and it was deleted within a hour...
Jones is SUCH a liar. I've never seen a porny GC man account. But I've seen porn on countless trans accounts. Of themselves, of other people and of cartoon furries.
It's another thing they've redefined. That people can't seem to see the obvious connection between pornified clothing, pornified postures, porn names, porn characters, porn terms, porn descriptors, porn images, porn acts, porn cultures and erm actual porn is truly mysterious. Everything and nothing is porn, it's just their human rights. Oh and being ever so 'emancipated' and 'living their true self'. And degradation. But not. But don't mention sex.
It’s often confronting reading the stuff on this site but after the conversion therapy news Twitter seemed full to the brim of TRAs screaming about torturing children. It took me a while to grasp what they were referring to. Making the assertion that others ‘must like torturing children then’. Leaping to that conclusion based on nothing. Having to join in with a pile on. I couldn’t quite believe it and had to stop reading. It is typical of their leaping to the most outrageous thing they can claim. Do they know what the word means? Any concept? There is no logical thread to that and I am losing patience for how they scweam and scweam without thinking about what they are saying and the impact it has on those they claim to speak for. Anyone and any topic can be drawn in to be used as collateral. The more sensitive the better. Are they sent a daily script, or is it that they see a Tweet and that’s it, that’s their thought on a subject? Where is the balancing or evaluation of ideas or evidence? Where is the caution? Nope, straight to the flamethrower. And constant bloody threats.
How are the TRAs more Daily Heil than the Daily Heil now? They throw accusations like this around and using exactly the same words so carelessly and by rote. Always hyperbole, always the most extreme, always the most hard done by. Interacting by threatening to get their way. Is it algorithms that like the shock factor and are they aware they do this? They don't seem that outraged about actual child abuse, but very keen to accuse people who aren't doing it of 'child torture'. Sitting behind keyboards losing their collective shit. If they thought about what that phrase meant for a second they wouldn't be freely throwing it as an insult to those not wanting children to have surgery, take hormones and make life-changing decisions based on dysphoria that they are being told they must have as they like the 'wrong' colour and don't fit in some very rigorously enforced gender stereotypes.
This seems to be a fetish for them – they are not the most abused, they are not the most murdered and while they are selfishly screaming for attention others that need help are being ignored.
I've noticed TRAs use a lot of psychological projection. Eg Accusing women of reducing people to their biological role while simultaneously asking us to call ourselves uterus havers, birthing people and menstruators.
And saying GCs want everyone to stick to strict gender boxes when it's them who worship rigid stereotypes.
So when they accuse us of wanting to harm children, it's their way of letting us know that THEY DO.
Yes ,they just become incandescent with rage and throw massive tantrums when they don't get their way 100%. Nobody else matters at all to them ! The narcissism and sheer selfishness becomes more obvious every day !!
Reporting back from the gender wars on twitter - that NHS guy saying he was going to flout the new guidance has locked their account. People are now seriously "taking the piss" about the tantrums going on. Tom Coates is also still hiding.
Hi Graham, not too sure about returning to Twitter - possibly you're well out of it. It's a 250-character shouting match between tribes, scoring points over each other before everyone retreats back to their echo chambers.
As JKR pointed out, it has no nuance. And as Helen Joyce recently said, engaging with TRAs on it is a waste of energy and there are better ways to influence policy - and public opinion. Like this substack, for example :-) And a majority of the public aren't on Twitter anyway.
To be fair to Billy Bragg, he is right about male on male violence. More men are killed by men than women killed by men. However, what he and many people that use the same argument seem to miss entirely is that the male on female violence is a tiny, tiny, tiny bit more one sided than the male on male violence.
But what is his point? That we should ignore single-sex spaces becuase men are victims of male violence too? That men need single sex spaces from women??! It does depend though on how violence is defined. With regards to physical violence then male on male violence is higher than male on female violence. However it is still men undertaking the violence and it actually adds weight to the need for greater safeguarding for women and children who are not as physically strong and less able to defend themselves. But how about sexual violence? How about psychological violence? I would argue that women are more often the victims of these types of violence.
It was some rather unnecessary 'whataboutery' I felt. He didn't need to mention it in my view, and if he did, then he shouldn't have opened the argument with it. It was deflection in a sense, or misdirection.
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Great to see just how much Stonewall et alia cares about children. No-one is trying to prevent or talk ADULTS out of " transitioning" if that's what they really want ,as long as they've thought it through although I don't think it should be paid for by the cash strapped NHS. Children ,on the other hand ,need protection from indoctrination by this damaging cult ,and therefore therapy and " watchful waiting " is the best course of action for them
That's NOT " conversion therapy" , it's protecting children from lifelong irreversible damage and regret.!! Transitioning children to validate an adult agenda is pure evil any way you look at it.! 👎😭 Thank you , Graham,for this post ♥️
Yes just my thoughts. In fact transitioning IS conversion therapy when you think it through.
Absolutely. It's not rocket science !!
RE. tantrum-like angry toddler poop threats -- so, in addition to metaphorically shitting on women, they have descended from metaphor to literal excrement. A new twist on the various toys being thrown from the pram. As for "Parsley", please please let this be his comeuppance. More than a slap on the wrist, an apology, a donation. Dolores Umbrage's snitch brigade could take lessons from this Master Snitch. He needs to be carried off into the woods by incensed centaurs. As for paedophilic men who identify as toddlers -- aren't they included under the "trans" umbrella? And finally, OJ, that puberty-blocked little man. A regular Malfoy.
It is one view that Mr. Parsley returned to Twitter for one reason only. That is, to 'play the victim' and as a result have some degree of peculiar personal action in terms of gaining sympathy in some way. (From whom, I am unsure - perhaps his legion of worshipping acolytes... or Owen Jones)
Well, I would perhaps proffer that his latest 'ill-advised' Tweet to JK Rowling may well result in a certain degree of 'action' of another kind. That which may involve an official communication from 'chambers'.
Yes, I think that "ill-advised" is his undoing. Aw, too bad.
Agreed!
If you are a Twitter user, you may be familiar with my 'famous' meme of a tardigrade playing (literally) the world's smallest violin...
It is for possible occasions such as this, it was made. 😉
Haha, I have seen it. So very microscopic. It's not "famous", it's famous!
Tiny poem for Moley's tiny violin lol 🤣
Moley made a violin
so tiny no-one hears,
for all the little tardigrades
that mock those put-on tears.
Fab!! Thanks!
I saw a few playing the violin, but the complaints were, the tears of laughter washed them away. Never mind 😊
Love that one - it's the best ☺️
Saying you hold an opinion isn’t defamatory in Scotland. It cost Stuart Campbell nearly quarter of a million quid to find that out when he sued Kezia Dugdale.
She may get a retraction by the threat of legal action because fighting a defamation case against a billionaire will leave you destroyed irrespective of the outcome.
But you guys would be against the suppression of speech by billionaires yeah?
I don’t know quite what kind of legal expert you are, but a number of actual ones (including at least one Scottish QC) were on JKR’s timeline pointing out that it’s unlikely ManAtBusstop’s wording avoids the tort.
And you’re of course wrong about the “billionaire” thing: a sign of your deep research no doubt. As is well-documented, JKR made herself a billionaire (from poverty) by her own creative efforts, and a millionaire by her own generosity & refusal to dodge taxes.
But maybe you could let us know at what income level you think it’s OK to be subjected to baseless accusations of being a danger to children?
And where your income stands in relation to that line?
It's not clear that Alison Bailey understands that in Scotland (not England) comments that are found by the court to be defamatory still have the defence of fair comment. Kezia Dugdale's comments about Campbell, saying he was “someone who spouts hatred and homophobia towards others” was found defamatory but defendable as fair comment.
As ever there's a bunch of subtlety and context that would feed into any judgement but I don't think any of this is understood or in consideration by 99% of the people passing judgement right now.
Hey, happy to modify my comments to say multi millionaire or dollar billionaire if that helps but the general principle still stands. She has access to resources that mean you can use the court system to suppress speech you don't like.
FWIW I don't think she's that vindictive. We'll see.
You have neglected to supply us with the precise income level above which you think people should be subject to baseless accusations of endangering children without recourse to legal protection.
And no: I wasn’t referring to Alison Bailey, though I’m looking forward to the court case at the end of the month.
Alison Bailey is on twitter incorrectly saying commentary isn't a defence in a defamation action.
You don't need to editorialise your question (baseless accusations!) but I think that access to the legal system should be equitable and the punishments for misuse proportionate to the a persons wealth to raise the stakes for anyone bringing a frivolous lawsuit.
What damage do you think Paisley has done to Rowling's repuation and what losses has she suffered because of his tweet?
Is he a significant opinion maker wreaking widespread damage or just ManAtBusstop?
You think saying a children’s author is a danger to children is fair comment? For the defence to apply: (1) the statement must be a comment and not an assertion of fact; (2) it must make sufficient reference to facts which were true and on which the comment could be based; and (3) it must be fair. Prefacing a libellous statement with ‘I think this’ doesn’t protect you otherwise it would be a free for all!
And 4, of public interest.
I think it’d count, he’s made clear that his statement represents an opinion. He’s detailed the facts that lead him to that opinion and it’s of public interest.
Whether it’s a fair comment would be arguable as would whether the facts hold water, that she’s promoting someone who advocates trans conversion therapy.
I would say from a non-expert perspective Paisley’s statements are a lot more guarded than those of Dugdale about Campbell, which found for the defendant in the original trial and appeal.
Why oh why are you here? What do get out of spamming like this?
Whatever fyffes is up to here (and he being a reader of Dominic Cummings I doubt it's a gender agenda) I think pointing out that there's an essential difference between saying "in my opinion JK Rowling is a danger to children" and saying "JK Rowling is a danger to children", is important, since an opinion you can pick up anywhere including your own navel, whereas saying abruptly "JK Rowling is a danger to children" implies or at least suggests that you might have some evidence of that. (Which Paisley of course doesn't have.) I'm not a lawyer either so that's only my opinion that the second case would be much closer to libel.
Not that I wouldn't be as delighted as anyone to see the toad grilled in court, but I get jittery when I feel a lynching mood rising whoever the intended victim. It's after all what Paisley does all the time.
Just getting my money’s worth. The point I’m making is probably one of the least contentious things I’ve posted. Why’s this rattled your cage
So you admit you're here to throw shit? Just because you've paid a small amount of money you think that gives you licence to act like this?
Rattled my cage? Nope. What a patronising way to engage, which you are clearly not here to do. You bore me. When I see your name, like clockwork, it leads me to skimming what you write, as like always, it's nasty. Like the subjects of this post, I am bored with the lot of you and how you interact with others. You labour your points endlessly. We get it.
Who are you to determine what I think or what I find contentious? Is that it? Is it all about desperately, needily trying to be contentious with you? You troll, argue and slap down others and I wonder if you act like this in real life too. You are pitiable.
Life is short mate, try to value your time, leave others alone, try not to continually pick fights and find holes in arguments where there are none.
Fyffes arguments are holier than a bible made of Swiss cheese! ✝️ 🧀
The funny thing is Graham keeps thanking me for the money! I’m obviously doing something right 😎
If anyone is guilty of oppressive behaviour/suppression of speech, it’s Ribbons MacBusstop, who uses the police as his personal harassment squad against women standing up for women and girls rights and the importance of safeguarding measures.
I don’t think there was anything written on those bedsheets that qualifies as standing up for women and girls rights and the importance of safeguarding measures.
The most surprising thing about those photos is that people in them hadn’t cut holes in the sheets and put them on their heads.
lol, groomer deflection as always
Re: the saddest thread. What I find shocking - and depressing - is just how many of them there are. All these confused, lonely, porn-addled young men are now hellbent on dismantling women’s rights. To protect their new identities. And I bet half of them are coders and most are able to spend 24/7 on the internet whipping up the illusion that they represent majority opinion (they definitely do not).
True. My friend's autistic and extremely weird husband is now trans and he was a coder for many years. I'm sure he suddenly realised his transness at 33 from being on the Internet all damn day supposedly "working"... as she slogs it as a midwife
Green Party canvasser - pleasant woman - knocked on my door at the W/end. Said yes I did have a question: what is a woman. Watched the blush spread over her face. Said if I want the candidate - a bloke - will come & explain it to me. I wondered aloud how he would know, if she & I didn’t.
She then said this is about trans rights. I pointed out that it’s about women’s existence & rights: the science & the law. The Greens used to be the party that believed in science. She began “The science is that gender...” and I’m sorry to say I laughed aloud.
I might have been a bit too scornful, but it’s tough not to.
Good for you. I would do the same but I've never seen a canvasser for years ,not at my door at least.!! Nowadays ,I have posters in my window which proclaim " Woman = Adult Human Female ",along with others about single sex spaces etc, so if there are any canvassers in the area ,they might be put off !!
Our area is going to be hard-fought.
I’d usually be out canvassing myself but I’m waiting to hear from the candidate of the party I support.
I have no poster up as yet: lure them in...!
So am I! Outside of biology, (Gender refers to groups and populations, not individuals) science says nothing that I am aware of on 'gender' in the same way that science says nothing about 'The Ether', because it doesn't exist.
The soul, the tooth fairy...
I can live without the tooth fairy and the gender demon but I love the idea of a soul. Don’t know what it is or where it is but I am sure I have one somewhere.
Well, I’m sure she went away thinking I was horribly hostile. If my ankles & knees hadn’t been so painful I’d have maybe put a bit more effort in to talking to her.
I had more to say!
And today I get a flyer from the candidate. Absolutely crammed with photos. He doesn’t seem to know any women though, as there are none in any of the pics...
If Owen Jones had a brain, the question he would be asking is why does Twitter allow and enable pornography, full stop. It's crazy the extent to which the American tech companies have normalised the presence of pornography.
She needs to sue and make it very public - hes needs to be wetting his knickers.
I'm sorry this is probably a stupid question... but are OWEN JONES & BILLY BRAGG aware that children and young people are being used as pawns for gender identity ideology, which has been around for about 15 minutes, Are they aware that children and young people are being EXPERIMENTED on with puberty blockers and affirming them to believe they're something they can never be, Are they aware of the Dangers of wrong sex hormones on young girls as highlighted by Elaine Miller? Are they aware that having 'GENDER DYSPHORIA' does not make a man a woman, in fact its a mental health condition that requires proper treatment and care. Are they aware of clusters of friends 'RESEARCHING' online about 'Trans' and coming to the conclusion they must also be 'Trans', its called the Barnham Effect/Forer effect, for e.g. Have you ever felt trapped? or Have you ever felt like you don't quite fit in? Then you must be 'Trans'. Mix that with teenage victim culture after spending 8 hours a day everyday online. Its 'called SOCIAL CONTAGION'.
Are they aware of the heart-breaking testimonies of 'DETRANSITIONERS' who were all 'Trans' until they weren't. If genders a social construct then what the hells the cross sex hormones for?? Are they aware that this is the 'Stanley Milgrim Experiment' on Children??? This is one of the biggest Medical Scandals of all time and to anyone in positions of influence and power; YOU EITHER KNOW OR YOU SHOULD KNOW.
To Owen Jones, Billy Bragg & Stonewall ; Get down from your Big Horse and Stop playing politics with this issue.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzIz-WvkzpM
Its so frustrating that I cannot get this message through to people!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FatDNajKnhs
PAWNS!
I fear you are right 😢
For all these young lives being corrupted by far too much free online porn, reddit & Tumblr groomers who worship judith butlers queer theory. Just remember in the human brain, the pre-frontal cortex is still developing until 25-30 years old.
The internet is an abyss, don't stare at it to long, You're living in a digital dream world, come back to reality
Well, there's a coincidence! Whenever I get "be kind" from someone I challenge them to go on Twitter, search "she/her" and see how many anime picture profiles they can click on before they find porn. I recently asked the same question under one of OJ's Youtube videos and it was deleted within a hour...
Yep. Furry sex cartoons and hypersexualised anime girls with giant tits getting bukkake'd... that's what I see during my foray into trans twitter
Jones is SUCH a liar. I've never seen a porny GC man account. But I've seen porn on countless trans accounts. Of themselves, of other people and of cartoon furries.
Whenever JKR posts something specifically for parents to show children, you’ll find TRAs posting porn on the thread.
It's another thing they've redefined. That people can't seem to see the obvious connection between pornified clothing, pornified postures, porn names, porn characters, porn terms, porn descriptors, porn images, porn acts, porn cultures and erm actual porn is truly mysterious. Everything and nothing is porn, it's just their human rights. Oh and being ever so 'emancipated' and 'living their true self'. And degradation. But not. But don't mention sex.
Schrödinger's porn - suitable, in fact essential, for kid's storytime.
It’s often confronting reading the stuff on this site but after the conversion therapy news Twitter seemed full to the brim of TRAs screaming about torturing children. It took me a while to grasp what they were referring to. Making the assertion that others ‘must like torturing children then’. Leaping to that conclusion based on nothing. Having to join in with a pile on. I couldn’t quite believe it and had to stop reading. It is typical of their leaping to the most outrageous thing they can claim. Do they know what the word means? Any concept? There is no logical thread to that and I am losing patience for how they scweam and scweam without thinking about what they are saying and the impact it has on those they claim to speak for. Anyone and any topic can be drawn in to be used as collateral. The more sensitive the better. Are they sent a daily script, or is it that they see a Tweet and that’s it, that’s their thought on a subject? Where is the balancing or evaluation of ideas or evidence? Where is the caution? Nope, straight to the flamethrower. And constant bloody threats.
How are the TRAs more Daily Heil than the Daily Heil now? They throw accusations like this around and using exactly the same words so carelessly and by rote. Always hyperbole, always the most extreme, always the most hard done by. Interacting by threatening to get their way. Is it algorithms that like the shock factor and are they aware they do this? They don't seem that outraged about actual child abuse, but very keen to accuse people who aren't doing it of 'child torture'. Sitting behind keyboards losing their collective shit. If they thought about what that phrase meant for a second they wouldn't be freely throwing it as an insult to those not wanting children to have surgery, take hormones and make life-changing decisions based on dysphoria that they are being told they must have as they like the 'wrong' colour and don't fit in some very rigorously enforced gender stereotypes.
This seems to be a fetish for them – they are not the most abused, they are not the most murdered and while they are selfishly screaming for attention others that need help are being ignored.
I've noticed TRAs use a lot of psychological projection. Eg Accusing women of reducing people to their biological role while simultaneously asking us to call ourselves uterus havers, birthing people and menstruators.
And saying GCs want everyone to stick to strict gender boxes when it's them who worship rigid stereotypes.
So when they accuse us of wanting to harm children, it's their way of letting us know that THEY DO.
Yes ,they just become incandescent with rage and throw massive tantrums when they don't get their way 100%. Nobody else matters at all to them ! The narcissism and sheer selfishness becomes more obvious every day !!
Reporting back from the gender wars on twitter - that NHS guy saying he was going to flout the new guidance has locked their account. People are now seriously "taking the piss" about the tantrums going on. Tom Coates is also still hiding.
Have a limerick about him:
There was a mean fellow called Coates,
who couldn't read through all his notes.
He looked really lame
when he missed Lampert's name,
so we chased him round twitter with quotes!
Jesus! Colin Montgomerie was definitely an emo boy! The maths add up and his juvenile taste for horrible metalcore. Make complete sense! Hahahahah
*makes.
So now autopedephilia is hitting the courts - I’m sure this is just the beginning though.. https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/child-abuse-images-dress-clothes-23468534
Hi Graham, not too sure about returning to Twitter - possibly you're well out of it. It's a 250-character shouting match between tribes, scoring points over each other before everyone retreats back to their echo chambers.
As JKR pointed out, it has no nuance. And as Helen Joyce recently said, engaging with TRAs on it is a waste of energy and there are better ways to influence policy - and public opinion. Like this substack, for example :-) And a majority of the public aren't on Twitter anyway.
To be fair to Billy Bragg, he is right about male on male violence. More men are killed by men than women killed by men. However, what he and many people that use the same argument seem to miss entirely is that the male on female violence is a tiny, tiny, tiny bit more one sided than the male on male violence.
But what is his point? That we should ignore single-sex spaces becuase men are victims of male violence too? That men need single sex spaces from women??! It does depend though on how violence is defined. With regards to physical violence then male on male violence is higher than male on female violence. However it is still men undertaking the violence and it actually adds weight to the need for greater safeguarding for women and children who are not as physically strong and less able to defend themselves. But how about sexual violence? How about psychological violence? I would argue that women are more often the victims of these types of violence.
It was some rather unnecessary 'whataboutery' I felt. He didn't need to mention it in my view, and if he did, then he shouldn't have opened the argument with it. It was deflection in a sense, or misdirection.
Was a caring man when I wrote this tune / Misogynistic now and a bit of a loon / People ask on twitter “am I still that working class man?” / I block them straight away / Because I can
They loved me then as I love ME still / Used to put me on a pedestal / Now ask “what happened Bill?” / I don't feel bad about letting them know / They’re **** terfs and I’m off to my chateau
I don't want to change my mind / I'm not looking at the facts now / I'm looking the other way / I don't want to change my mind / I'm not looking at the facts now / I'm looking the other way
I hate the words they write to me / I close my eyes so I can’t see / The broken women they can’t mend / The children who just need a friend
I saw two famous stars last night / I pissed on them ‘cause they were only terfy shite / It’s right to piss on those who dare / Question me that I should care
I don't want to change my mind / I'm not looking at the facts now / I'm looking the other way / I just cannot change my mind / I am really in too deep now / So I'm looking the other way
Looking the other way / Looking the other way / Looking the / Looking the / Looking the other way / Fingers in ears la la la la la la (fade)
Well done! Excellent! Send it to him! Ha!
Thanks Moley. Perhaps Mr Menno could use it. Can you send it to Graham. I'm sure it would give him a laugh.
I'm sure he will see it here!
I eagerly await Billy’s stop male on male violence campaign and protest song.
I just want to change the world
I am looking for new men land
You looking for new men land too
We’re living in the trans rights bubble
We’re trying to tweet our way our of trouble
And my American friends know just what to do
They’ll make constant death threats and say they’ll rape you too
I blame the Turtles. An influence bad. Where are Back to the Planet when you need them?