The white privilege of Josie Long Great to see Peterson continuing to speak out about this “Evil flourishes when good men step aside.” A lesson some of my colleagues on the Father Ted musical could do with learning. You might want to just listen to it because with visuals it’s a bit too reminiscent of
The way Stonewall keep digging is very funny. No wonder gender ideology activists have tried so hard to avoid debate. I haven't seen Nancy Kelley interviewed since she made a total plank of herself on Women's Hour.
I think Gilead is probably a big funder of L and G (but maybe not T so much) because it seems to be a large producer of drugs to treat HIV. However, there's no doubt that the whole trans agenda is driven by big pharma, biotech and the transgender surgery industries. There's a very good book by Jennifer Jacquet, newly published, called The Playbook; How to Deny Science, Sell Lies, and Make a Killing in the Corporate World which explains exactly how the tobacco, oil, chemical and other large industries operate. The transgender industry seems to operate in the same way. A real eye-opener!
“Research suggests that children as young as 2 recognise their trans identity. Yet, many nurseries and schools teach a binary understanding of pre-assigned gender.”
Sounds pretty clear to me, Stonewall. Too late to squirm out of it now, you bunch of anti-women, anti-children to$$ers.
What this tells me is that big pharma operates just like the tobacco industry did. Target children. Persuade them to socially transition when they're tiny and, within a few years, they'll be customers for puberty blockers. In another few years, it's cross sex hormones and they're yours for life.
Indeed. And how they sold opioids. Doctors all on side and prescribing like billyo. Some of the same people who did the 'advice and analysis' for that are doing it for this. Vaping now targets children and is almost completely beyond the reach of any regulator.
UK Home Secretary Priti Patel used to do PR for big tobacco. Isn't influence lovely?
What I found most interesting about the Andrew Doyle video is his statement that Stonewall are unwilling to appear in order to debate anything. WHO ARE THESE PEOPLE? And considering the apparently limitless avenues of funding they receive, I wonder if we are looking at some kind of Mafia group. Indeed - it's worse than the Mafia who at least had an obsession with appearing decent and legitimate.
"What differentiates from, and in a certain sense contrasts the spirit and organization of the Mafia with banditry is the fact that the Mafia...never or almost never sets itself against the law, [or] directly proposes to break the law or protest against its ordinances, as is the case with the bandit in popular myth; but on the contrary presents itself as concerned with order and of course formal respect for the law."
S.F. Romano, quoted in Catanzaro, Men of Respect, p. 24.
Never heard any such thing. In Sicily, the Mafia has regularly murdered those who oppose it or who resist it in any way. In the U.S., the Mafia has and continues to engage in murder, drug trafficking, human trafficking, money laundering, etc. This book sounds like a whitewashing of mobsters.
I got that quote from “Government of the Shadows: Parapolitics and Criminal Sovereignty” edited by Eric Wilson that is concerned about the blurred boundaries between the law and organised crime. The point I was trying to make is that the Mafia – though murderous – is indeed very keen and even pedantic about maintaining a respectable image. And that is what separates them from cryptic organisations like Stonewall who don’t even need to bother about a respectable image since they operate totally behind closed doors – and yet with the full support of the establishment which itself is coming increasingly to resemble a criminal organisation. The Wilson book I referred to above begins with a paradoxical motto: “Law is the respectable face of crime”. Indeed.
Interesting motto, and one I can at least partially agree with.
The respectable image is what I don't understand. The Mafia in the U.S. never attempted to have a respectable image, though now they are to be found in many so-called legitimate enterprises (gotta do something with all those ill-gotten gains). My favorite Mafia story was in a book written by an FBI agent who was undercover. He was in the mobster's home and watched the man in question change a baby's diaper then proceed to make himself a sandwich, no hand-washing required! I don't think the agent found that respectable!
I apologise for any misunderstanding and probably shouldn't have mentioned that bit about "respectability". The point I was trying to make is that this shady Stonewall bunch seem to be acting like a Mafia but whereas you know the actual Mafia are indeed criminal, this Stonewall bunch can pose as the "proper", establishment backed - and indeed "respectable" people. Those acting outside the law frequently do less damage than those acting, technically within the law.
Just bought you 16 coffees, Graham. My pal here in Dublin is still to come up with the balance of the €200 (€100 paid previously) he promised but I am still chasing him. Unlike us he didn't go to Plunkett College in Whitehall, the bum.
Americans "did not prefer" a cartoon over a white woman. Hillary Clinton won by 3,000,000 votes. That said, I hope you understand she would have continued Obama's policy of replacing sex with gender identity and put scum on the Supreme Court that would have supported this ideology.
I really disagree. I've read his book and it's full of compassion for men and women. Sure he occasionally says something stupid on Twitter but who doesn't? His lectures on storytelling are wonderful, and you can see by how he addresses his students (many of them women, in the lecture I saw) that he makes no distinction in how he talks to him. He just tries to engage and persuade.
Team Peterson that's me! Probably one of the few men braver then you Graham. He had to swim in the disgusting PC swamp that is Trudeau's Canada and nearly went under. Thank God he didn't. Love how he annoys the Silly Billy lefties. Is it any wonder the Trans and Stonewall freak shows ran rings around lefty women for so long ....
Thanks, I honestly have never paid that much attention to him because to be blunt he radiates a really strange vibe that I find difficult to get past. I don't want to judge him based on the selective quotes of his opponents, but I can respect your opinion as you obviously have been taking note.
I don't think Jordan Peterson or anyone else should be talking about other people's "unhealthy body types." Thin people are prey to certain cancers -- does that make them unhealthy? I see people with big bags under their eyes, deep lines in their faces, blotchy skin; should I be commenting publicly on the state of their health?
We don’t have to like sinister men such as Peterson, and I don’t appreciate being pressured to do so. No derogatory names were used here, just his own words and actions being analyzed, and that’s an unfeminine activity to engage in. This is a man’s newsletter, not a feminist one, so we’ve apparently expressed more than the allowed criticism of this particular individual. Good to know that he’s so well liked here. Are jerks like Tezzy still roaming these comment threads, I wonder?
say as much as you like! I just don't agree with the points that have already been made. I've read his books and watched his lectures to come to this conclusion. We differ on him. That's all.
Well said. Incel pandering garbage is an apt description, so thank you. Latest clip of him that I happened to view recently had him classifying “order” as masculine and “chaos” as (of course) feminine. 🤮🤬
I just don’t get why people esteem JP. He’s right about things that are so obvious to be right about, and all I can think of is: and? Other than that, his ideas just seem like the intellectualized sexism I’ve heard my whole life. It’s the same as the religious sexism- they dress it up, but it comes down to woman= inferior.
Plus, he is a terrible speaker and writer! It’s gobbledegook!
Finally, both he and Megan Murphy took a stand against that hate speech law in Canada. Megan lost everything, was ignored by the renegade intellectuals, and had to start over. JP was lauded as a brave hero, was interviewed by Rogan and Sam Harris, and became very wealthy, even though Murphy is WAY smarter than he is. There is no better illustration of how much more power men have than women.
Maybe that’s unfair if me, because GL has sacrificed so much for speaking out. Maybe it’s just a result of speaking against your enemies v. Speaking against your friends.
I don’t think you’re being unfair at all. The real world consequences for women are usually worse than for men, unpleasant though the consequences are for individual men like GL. Your example of Murphy and Peterson is spot on.
Joe Rogan caught him up on the “equality of outcome” Peterson’s always complaining that the mythical “Left” is seeking to enforce, and pointed out that his idea of enforced monogamy is a situation of enforced equality of outcome. The look on his face was priceless! People like him have far too much time on their hands, and they tend to use it formulating baseless theories that they have the platform and “authority” to spread far and wide, without ever having to vet them first with intelligent, reasoned debate. His incessant incel pandering is insufferable. I didn’t understand the Criswell reference about the visual format of his video until I followed the link, but it seems like it’s an accurate description! I’m not sure that I always agree with the statement, “The enemy of my enemy is my friend.” With Peterson, the saying, “A broken clock is right twice a day” is likely more applicable. I don’t care to admire him at all.
Agreeing with Trump about not replacing sex with gender identity does not make me a fan of Trump. One can certainly see how a person's attitudes are foul while agreeing with him on one or two points.
Yes to free speech, but that doesn't mean we have to like the shit that comes out of men's mouths.
Unfortunately ,many women ARE responsible for this attempted erasure of women and THEY should be ashamed !! Jordan Peterson has a wife and daughter ,both of whom he mentions often. Matt Walsh gets criticised by women in the same way !!
Not a troll. I pay Graham money I could easily spend on other things. I am just someone who isn't a deluded lefty (I was for about six months when I was 18 I will admit).
Please Karl. You often insult and use phrases like 'deluded lefty' or 'lefty women' and compare this to some thoughts you once had in your younger years when in college. It doesn't help this substack or any of us. You seem to have some bored days when you pick like this and then get offensive in the same way when challenged. Use intelligence, knowledge and wit to convince others if you have to, but please stop resorting to the same wearied insults. You are wrong on the political affiliations of many you insult here and it's a distraction from learning, understanding and figuring out how to stop the march of genderology.
Totally disagree with you. I think Jordan Peterson's an important voice in this debate ,on the Gender Critical side. I love listening to him ,on this issue at least .
For some reason the ‘like’ button isn’t working on my phone or I would have clicked one re your comment. The younger son of a friend of mine turned his life around after reading Jordan’s ‘12 lessons for life’ book. When Jordan P tears up when he mentions the young men he has helped ‘save’ from a life of pointless moping and sponging off their parents/welfare/partner he is genuine. And truthful.
Re: the "like" button not working-- don't know whether this applies to accessing substack by phone (I always use a desktop), but refreshing the page seems to work for me. Maybe give that a try (if you haven't already).
Yes FreeToBeYou&me - it only happens on my phone too so am using my iMac instead now. Funny though, I find on the phone the 'like' button works sometimes (maybe 20% ) and not others. Thanks again.
👏 You certainly have, and done well to warn others about this individual’s game. Just because he speaks up on the right side about free speech and transgenderism, doesn’t mean that he’s not a misogynist. I don’t care to admire him at all on a professional or personal front.
No need to apologize for being emotive. Our brains do not work if they are not connected to our emotions (my god, I've seen that over and over again in my life with people who have high IQs and the intellectual ability of a cat turd), and this is one of the huge problems of men. And, no, it is not good to align ourselves with misogynists even if they are right on a few points.
For women, if we’re not emotional “enough,” we’ll have problems, too. Writing is a skill I don’t have, as I prefer to communicate with feeling, and that’s not so welcome in general. Do keep at it, as practice makes perfect!
Well ,I would join forces with the devil himself to defeat this evil movement ,but the devil of course will be on their side !! No room for purity politics when we're fighting for our very existence as WOMEN.
Maybe not ,but I was just trying to make the point about purity politics. We all disagree on lots of issues but on this issue we need to stand together. There's too much infighting among some GC people,which really only helps the tras.x
No one here was engaging in anything of the kind. I refuse to celebrate manipulative, delusional persons just because they agree with me on one or two issues. JP is bad news. Fact. Nothing “purity politics” about it. That claim is quite like the narcissistic manipulation of “whataboutery,” and only functions to silence those saying it, who are almost always calling for accountability. I’m a survivor of childhood sexual abuse while nice White, white-collared individuals with their fancy-pants advanced education committed literally hundreds of felonies in the 2 1/2 years they held me hostage while covering up for my religiously psychotic birth mother and facilitating my sexual abuse.
Group narcissism is real, and is far more damaging to the population at large than individual narcissistic people. Civilized people are quite sick, and I encourage everyone to take a good hard look at its institutions and reduce their codependency with them. Consider this thread an invitation to do that. I’m not “GC” and think it’s an unfortunate term. For me, accountability wins over popularity ANY day!
Thank you!!! I've been trying to articulate what it is about him that is so irritating. I was appalled when I saw his reference to women as 'chaos' and men as 'order'. AS IF! Talk about a man being utterly clueless about women's lived experiences. Especially in women's relationships with men. It's a testament to how deeply enmeshed we are in a patriarchal paradigm. Men get away with murder, rape, entire wars against the population and WOMEN are chaos???
The way Stonewall keep digging is very funny. No wonder gender ideology activists have tried so hard to avoid debate. I haven't seen Nancy Kelley interviewed since she made a total plank of herself on Women's Hour.
I think Gilead is probably a big funder of L and G (but maybe not T so much) because it seems to be a large producer of drugs to treat HIV. However, there's no doubt that the whole trans agenda is driven by big pharma, biotech and the transgender surgery industries. There's a very good book by Jennifer Jacquet, newly published, called The Playbook; How to Deny Science, Sell Lies, and Make a Killing in the Corporate World which explains exactly how the tobacco, oil, chemical and other large industries operate. The transgender industry seems to operate in the same way. A real eye-opener!
“Research suggests that children as young as 2 recognise their trans identity. Yet, many nurseries and schools teach a binary understanding of pre-assigned gender.”
Sounds pretty clear to me, Stonewall. Too late to squirm out of it now, you bunch of anti-women, anti-children to$$ers.
What this tells me is that big pharma operates just like the tobacco industry did. Target children. Persuade them to socially transition when they're tiny and, within a few years, they'll be customers for puberty blockers. In another few years, it's cross sex hormones and they're yours for life.
Indeed. And how they sold opioids. Doctors all on side and prescribing like billyo. Some of the same people who did the 'advice and analysis' for that are doing it for this. Vaping now targets children and is almost completely beyond the reach of any regulator.
UK Home Secretary Priti Patel used to do PR for big tobacco. Isn't influence lovely?
What I found most interesting about the Andrew Doyle video is his statement that Stonewall are unwilling to appear in order to debate anything. WHO ARE THESE PEOPLE? And considering the apparently limitless avenues of funding they receive, I wonder if we are looking at some kind of Mafia group. Indeed - it's worse than the Mafia who at least had an obsession with appearing decent and legitimate.
Wow, the U.S. Mafia never tried to appear decent!
"What differentiates from, and in a certain sense contrasts the spirit and organization of the Mafia with banditry is the fact that the Mafia...never or almost never sets itself against the law, [or] directly proposes to break the law or protest against its ordinances, as is the case with the bandit in popular myth; but on the contrary presents itself as concerned with order and of course formal respect for the law."
S.F. Romano, quoted in Catanzaro, Men of Respect, p. 24.
Never heard any such thing. In Sicily, the Mafia has regularly murdered those who oppose it or who resist it in any way. In the U.S., the Mafia has and continues to engage in murder, drug trafficking, human trafficking, money laundering, etc. This book sounds like a whitewashing of mobsters.
I got that quote from “Government of the Shadows: Parapolitics and Criminal Sovereignty” edited by Eric Wilson that is concerned about the blurred boundaries between the law and organised crime. The point I was trying to make is that the Mafia – though murderous – is indeed very keen and even pedantic about maintaining a respectable image. And that is what separates them from cryptic organisations like Stonewall who don’t even need to bother about a respectable image since they operate totally behind closed doors – and yet with the full support of the establishment which itself is coming increasingly to resemble a criminal organisation. The Wilson book I referred to above begins with a paradoxical motto: “Law is the respectable face of crime”. Indeed.
Interesting motto, and one I can at least partially agree with.
The respectable image is what I don't understand. The Mafia in the U.S. never attempted to have a respectable image, though now they are to be found in many so-called legitimate enterprises (gotta do something with all those ill-gotten gains). My favorite Mafia story was in a book written by an FBI agent who was undercover. He was in the mobster's home and watched the man in question change a baby's diaper then proceed to make himself a sandwich, no hand-washing required! I don't think the agent found that respectable!
I apologise for any misunderstanding and probably shouldn't have mentioned that bit about "respectability". The point I was trying to make is that this shady Stonewall bunch seem to be acting like a Mafia but whereas you know the actual Mafia are indeed criminal, this Stonewall bunch can pose as the "proper", establishment backed - and indeed "respectable" people. Those acting outside the law frequently do less damage than those acting, technically within the law.
Brits are familiar with the perfidy of Peter Tatchell; American parachutists, not so much.
Just bought you 16 coffees, Graham. My pal here in Dublin is still to come up with the balance of the €200 (€100 paid previously) he promised but I am still chasing him. Unlike us he didn't go to Plunkett College in Whitehall, the bum.
Americans "did not prefer" a cartoon over a white woman. Hillary Clinton won by 3,000,000 votes. That said, I hope you understand she would have continued Obama's policy of replacing sex with gender identity and put scum on the Supreme Court that would have supported this ideology.
Well she’s been quite terfy.
https://www.them.us/story/hillary-clinton-clarifies-transgender-women-comments
I have seen no examples of that.
I really disagree. I've read his book and it's full of compassion for men and women. Sure he occasionally says something stupid on Twitter but who doesn't? His lectures on storytelling are wonderful, and you can see by how he addresses his students (many of them women, in the lecture I saw) that he makes no distinction in how he talks to him. He just tries to engage and persuade.
to them, rather
Team Peterson that's me! Probably one of the few men braver then you Graham. He had to swim in the disgusting PC swamp that is Trudeau's Canada and nearly went under. Thank God he didn't. Love how he annoys the Silly Billy lefties. Is it any wonder the Trans and Stonewall freak shows ran rings around lefty women for so long ....
Stop trying so hard Karl, it's a bit obvious.
Perhaps I am a bit didactic when dealing with slow learners, Tea-Rex. I never had any teacher training unfortunately. I will try and improve my ways.
You know that line about "setting aside differences to work together".
You seem to have interpreted that as meaning everyone else should be tolerant of yours while you insult theirs.
I have a simple rule on moderation, social media should focus a lot less on beliefs and a lot more on behaviour. Yours stinks, sort yourself out.
I just skip his comments, it's a lot more relaxing. His glaring racism made me ill.
I was replying to awful attacks on Dr Peterson. Lefty types can dish it out but.... Anyway Tea-Rex who is the one hiding behind a fake identity?
Let's agree to disagree :)
I don't mind disagreeing but when someone keeps saying the same dumb shit, stick a fork in me.
The idolatry of Peterson amongst MRAs is problematic, I don't know whether he's done anything to clarify his position on that or disown their views.
Thanks, I honestly have never paid that much attention to him because to be blunt he radiates a really strange vibe that I find difficult to get past. I don't want to judge him based on the selective quotes of his opponents, but I can respect your opinion as you obviously have been taking note.
That strange vibe struck me when I watched one of his videos. He seemed creepy and pompous and overly serious.
I don't think Jordan Peterson or anyone else should be talking about other people's "unhealthy body types." Thin people are prey to certain cancers -- does that make them unhealthy? I see people with big bags under their eyes, deep lines in their faces, blotchy skin; should I be commenting publicly on the state of their health?
We don’t have to like sinister men such as Peterson, and I don’t appreciate being pressured to do so. No derogatory names were used here, just his own words and actions being analyzed, and that’s an unfeminine activity to engage in. This is a man’s newsletter, not a feminist one, so we’ve apparently expressed more than the allowed criticism of this particular individual. Good to know that he’s so well liked here. Are jerks like Tezzy still roaming these comment threads, I wonder?
say as much as you like! I just don't agree with the points that have already been made. I've read his books and watched his lectures to come to this conclusion. We differ on him. That's all.
Well said. Incel pandering garbage is an apt description, so thank you. Latest clip of him that I happened to view recently had him classifying “order” as masculine and “chaos” as (of course) feminine. 🤮🤬
I just don’t get why people esteem JP. He’s right about things that are so obvious to be right about, and all I can think of is: and? Other than that, his ideas just seem like the intellectualized sexism I’ve heard my whole life. It’s the same as the religious sexism- they dress it up, but it comes down to woman= inferior.
Plus, he is a terrible speaker and writer! It’s gobbledegook!
Finally, both he and Megan Murphy took a stand against that hate speech law in Canada. Megan lost everything, was ignored by the renegade intellectuals, and had to start over. JP was lauded as a brave hero, was interviewed by Rogan and Sam Harris, and became very wealthy, even though Murphy is WAY smarter than he is. There is no better illustration of how much more power men have than women.
Maybe that’s unfair if me, because GL has sacrificed so much for speaking out. Maybe it’s just a result of speaking against your enemies v. Speaking against your friends.
I don’t think you’re being unfair at all. The real world consequences for women are usually worse than for men, unpleasant though the consequences are for individual men like GL. Your example of Murphy and Peterson is spot on.
Joe Rogan caught him up on the “equality of outcome” Peterson’s always complaining that the mythical “Left” is seeking to enforce, and pointed out that his idea of enforced monogamy is a situation of enforced equality of outcome. The look on his face was priceless! People like him have far too much time on their hands, and they tend to use it formulating baseless theories that they have the platform and “authority” to spread far and wide, without ever having to vet them first with intelligent, reasoned debate. His incessant incel pandering is insufferable. I didn’t understand the Criswell reference about the visual format of his video until I followed the link, but it seems like it’s an accurate description! I’m not sure that I always agree with the statement, “The enemy of my enemy is my friend.” With Peterson, the saying, “A broken clock is right twice a day” is likely more applicable. I don’t care to admire him at all.
In agreement with you on all points, including the zombie scenario!
Agreeing with Trump about not replacing sex with gender identity does not make me a fan of Trump. One can certainly see how a person's attitudes are foul while agreeing with him on one or two points.
Yes to free speech, but that doesn't mean we have to like the shit that comes out of men's mouths.
Unfortunately ,many women ARE responsible for this attempted erasure of women and THEY should be ashamed !! Jordan Peterson has a wife and daughter ,both of whom he mentions often. Matt Walsh gets criticised by women in the same way !!
This is great stuff Alice. Much better than 'Father Ted' even. Why not pitch to Channel 4 for a show of your own?
Not a troll. I pay Graham money I could easily spend on other things. I am just someone who isn't a deluded lefty (I was for about six months when I was 18 I will admit).
Please Karl. You often insult and use phrases like 'deluded lefty' or 'lefty women' and compare this to some thoughts you once had in your younger years when in college. It doesn't help this substack or any of us. You seem to have some bored days when you pick like this and then get offensive in the same way when challenged. Use intelligence, knowledge and wit to convince others if you have to, but please stop resorting to the same wearied insults. You are wrong on the political affiliations of many you insult here and it's a distraction from learning, understanding and figuring out how to stop the march of genderology.
Totally disagree with you. I think Jordan Peterson's an important voice in this debate ,on the Gender Critical side. I love listening to him ,on this issue at least .
For some reason the ‘like’ button isn’t working on my phone or I would have clicked one re your comment. The younger son of a friend of mine turned his life around after reading Jordan’s ‘12 lessons for life’ book. When Jordan P tears up when he mentions the young men he has helped ‘save’ from a life of pointless moping and sponging off their parents/welfare/partner he is genuine. And truthful.
Re: the "like" button not working-- don't know whether this applies to accessing substack by phone (I always use a desktop), but refreshing the page seems to work for me. Maybe give that a try (if you haven't already).
Yes FreeToBeYou&me - it only happens on my phone too so am using my iMac instead now. Funny though, I find on the phone the 'like' button works sometimes (maybe 20% ) and not others. Thanks again.
👍👏❤️
Thanks Susan! You are great too 👏😘
👏 You certainly have, and done well to warn others about this individual’s game. Just because he speaks up on the right side about free speech and transgenderism, doesn’t mean that he’s not a misogynist. I don’t care to admire him at all on a professional or personal front.
No need to apologize for being emotive. Our brains do not work if they are not connected to our emotions (my god, I've seen that over and over again in my life with people who have high IQs and the intellectual ability of a cat turd), and this is one of the huge problems of men. And, no, it is not good to align ourselves with misogynists even if they are right on a few points.
For women, if we’re not emotional “enough,” we’ll have problems, too. Writing is a skill I don’t have, as I prefer to communicate with feeling, and that’s not so welcome in general. Do keep at it, as practice makes perfect!
Well ,I would join forces with the devil himself to defeat this evil movement ,but the devil of course will be on their side !! No room for purity politics when we're fighting for our very existence as WOMEN.
That isn’t wise.
Maybe not ,but I was just trying to make the point about purity politics. We all disagree on lots of issues but on this issue we need to stand together. There's too much infighting among some GC people,which really only helps the tras.x
No one here was engaging in anything of the kind. I refuse to celebrate manipulative, delusional persons just because they agree with me on one or two issues. JP is bad news. Fact. Nothing “purity politics” about it. That claim is quite like the narcissistic manipulation of “whataboutery,” and only functions to silence those saying it, who are almost always calling for accountability. I’m a survivor of childhood sexual abuse while nice White, white-collared individuals with their fancy-pants advanced education committed literally hundreds of felonies in the 2 1/2 years they held me hostage while covering up for my religiously psychotic birth mother and facilitating my sexual abuse.
Group narcissism is real, and is far more damaging to the population at large than individual narcissistic people. Civilized people are quite sick, and I encourage everyone to take a good hard look at its institutions and reduce their codependency with them. Consider this thread an invitation to do that. I’m not “GC” and think it’s an unfortunate term. For me, accountability wins over popularity ANY day!
Somehow Alice I get the impression that you don't like him... no one is perfect.
Grand. We will agree to differ. Best wishes.
Thank you!!! I've been trying to articulate what it is about him that is so irritating. I was appalled when I saw his reference to women as 'chaos' and men as 'order'. AS IF! Talk about a man being utterly clueless about women's lived experiences. Especially in women's relationships with men. It's a testament to how deeply enmeshed we are in a patriarchal paradigm. Men get away with murder, rape, entire wars against the population and WOMEN are chaos???