I am unsure which is worse - bullshitting the populace via his excruciating TV and radio drivel or lying to his own individual constituents on their ow doorsteps?
I would have also become emotional if anyone from Labour had bothered to visit me in my safe Labour seat. The stress of dealing with gaslighting, and the effect it had on my job (I left it), the lack of response from my MP, and the incredulity at what people like Nandy (paedophiles in women's prisons!) and Rayner ('saving a seaa for Lily Madigan!) and the rest who signed that LGBT pledge calling us a hate group. The bullying of Labour women in CLPs. The venom against Rosie Duffield and not a dicky-bird from Starmer. That takes a toll.
And Lammy? He's partly responsible for this shitshow, via the Gender Recognition Act. Has no guts to ever let a chink of doubt that pretending men could ever be women was not a good idea; has unintended (but if you read Hansard, predicted consequences). So he lies. Arrogant man.
I really feel for women who have been emotionally abused and coercively controlled. If it feels like this for me, what must it be like for them?
I will probably never vote Labour again. They should be challenging Govt. policies on prisons, NHS wards and schools, yet they collude, and they say they'd go even further. Bastards.
Interesting that he can cry at the drop of a hat, gets to anger quickly, but it’s always for himself. In my experience those who tend to get to the top (workplace, organisations etc) are narcissists and everything they do is for themselves. It’s rare to find someone who’s principled and actually works for the greater good.
I would have ranked Lammy as one of my favourite politicians until last week. I'm watching in horror as men (and some women) I admired fall to the genderwoo - Talcum X, Jolyon Maugham, Peter Jukes, Billy Bragg, Keir Starmer, David Lammy, Nick Thomas Symonds - then there's all the men that keep schtum. It's hard not to conclude that the left hates women.
Glinner, you need to make it clear that the Dawn Butler statements that allegedly upset the constituent were not the ones about "people being born with no sex". That particular episode of madness came after the Dec 2019 election. In the run up to the election, Butler attacked single sex spaces enshrined under the Equalities Act and said that there was “no way [that] spaces will be permitted to discriminate against trans people”. This caused confusion, as the Labour Party manifesto had promised to retain single sex based exemptions. Labour subsequently stated that “Our commitment to reforming the Gender Recognition Act, to introduce self-declaration for transgender people, is undimmed. Labour will amend the Equality Act 2010 to ensure it protects trans people by changing the protected characteristic of ‘gender assignment’ to ‘gender identity’ and removing other outdated language such as ‘transsexual’. The Equality Act will continue to allow for separate and single-sex services, providing that such treatment by a provider is justified, but no spaces will be permitted to discriminate against trans people.” The fear your interviewee encountered was real, just for other reasons, and actually far more serious ones than the batshit "born without sex" comment Butler came out with post election. Had Labour been elected, we would have been facing some real attacks on the integrity of the Equality Act, and the enshrined in law right to single sex spaces.
In a world unrecognisable from the mid-80s our politicians stay resolutely the same. Back in 1986, with the campaign to decriminalise gays in Ireland gathering pace, Dublin's Lord Mayor Bertie Ahern told the voters "I have never met a homosexual", though everyone in political circles knew his top advisor and best friend was gay. Ahern went on to be the most successful Prime Minister in Irish history.
The only thing i find unbelievable is that Lammy is in anyway shape or form 'a good politician'. He like many many others is in it for what his ego needs and often gets - he ticks the box of being black but as for being Trevor Phillips he aint nowhere near.
Tottenham CLP has a really strong GC contingent - great that you have caught up with the Labour Womens' Declaration. Knowing this, I was particularly surprised by DL's recent comments.
It is bad enough that Labour down south is taking the position that it has, but SNP MPs are taking a similar position as NS has thrown women under the bus re the Scottish Act. I emailed my MP asking that she ask questions on behalf of women in the area, naming 12 women who have approached me (as a Community Councillor). He response was she is following the party line and that means only asking questions for transwomen and transmen. I asked how many transwomen/men had contacted her l and her response was none.
So this MP is prepared to ask questions on behalf of people who have not approached her, but not on behalf of constituents who have. Thus is not the first time we have had this response from her. If only I could find enough people to put in a vote of no confidence. Unfortunately there are few women in the area who are members of the SNP...
So we have seen both faces of Lammy.
I am unsure which is worse - bullshitting the populace via his excruciating TV and radio drivel or lying to his own individual constituents on their ow doorsteps?
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I would have also become emotional if anyone from Labour had bothered to visit me in my safe Labour seat. The stress of dealing with gaslighting, and the effect it had on my job (I left it), the lack of response from my MP, and the incredulity at what people like Nandy (paedophiles in women's prisons!) and Rayner ('saving a seaa for Lily Madigan!) and the rest who signed that LGBT pledge calling us a hate group. The bullying of Labour women in CLPs. The venom against Rosie Duffield and not a dicky-bird from Starmer. That takes a toll.
And Lammy? He's partly responsible for this shitshow, via the Gender Recognition Act. Has no guts to ever let a chink of doubt that pretending men could ever be women was not a good idea; has unintended (but if you read Hansard, predicted consequences). So he lies. Arrogant man.
I really feel for women who have been emotionally abused and coercively controlled. If it feels like this for me, what must it be like for them?
I will probably never vote Labour again. They should be challenging Govt. policies on prisons, NHS wards and schools, yet they collude, and they say they'd go even further. Bastards.
Interesting that he can cry at the drop of a hat, gets to anger quickly, but it’s always for himself. In my experience those who tend to get to the top (workplace, organisations etc) are narcissists and everything they do is for themselves. It’s rare to find someone who’s principled and actually works for the greater good.
Politicians - one after another - are saying such ridiculous things that it makes me wonder - How much money is a stake, and from whom?
Off topic, but an Interesting typo in this article in the Guardian today:
"The sports guidance concludes that female-only sport is bothl awful and necessary to guarantee the fair and safe inclusion of women. "
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2021/oct/05/who-is-included-views-report-on-transgender-participation-in-sport
I would have ranked Lammy as one of my favourite politicians until last week. I'm watching in horror as men (and some women) I admired fall to the genderwoo - Talcum X, Jolyon Maugham, Peter Jukes, Billy Bragg, Keir Starmer, David Lammy, Nick Thomas Symonds - then there's all the men that keep schtum. It's hard not to conclude that the left hates women.
Glinner, you need to make it clear that the Dawn Butler statements that allegedly upset the constituent were not the ones about "people being born with no sex". That particular episode of madness came after the Dec 2019 election. In the run up to the election, Butler attacked single sex spaces enshrined under the Equalities Act and said that there was “no way [that] spaces will be permitted to discriminate against trans people”. This caused confusion, as the Labour Party manifesto had promised to retain single sex based exemptions. Labour subsequently stated that “Our commitment to reforming the Gender Recognition Act, to introduce self-declaration for transgender people, is undimmed. Labour will amend the Equality Act 2010 to ensure it protects trans people by changing the protected characteristic of ‘gender assignment’ to ‘gender identity’ and removing other outdated language such as ‘transsexual’. The Equality Act will continue to allow for separate and single-sex services, providing that such treatment by a provider is justified, but no spaces will be permitted to discriminate against trans people.” The fear your interviewee encountered was real, just for other reasons, and actually far more serious ones than the batshit "born without sex" comment Butler came out with post election. Had Labour been elected, we would have been facing some real attacks on the integrity of the Equality Act, and the enshrined in law right to single sex spaces.
Women’s rights are a wind sock issue. If the prevailing wind is TWAW that’s who the politicians will back.
In a world unrecognisable from the mid-80s our politicians stay resolutely the same. Back in 1986, with the campaign to decriminalise gays in Ireland gathering pace, Dublin's Lord Mayor Bertie Ahern told the voters "I have never met a homosexual", though everyone in political circles knew his top advisor and best friend was gay. Ahern went on to be the most successful Prime Minister in Irish history.
I realise I forgot to thank these women for speaking out so openly about this. Thank you.
The only thing i find unbelievable is that Lammy is in anyway shape or form 'a good politician'. He like many many others is in it for what his ego needs and often gets - he ticks the box of being black but as for being Trevor Phillips he aint nowhere near.
Tottenham CLP has a really strong GC contingent - great that you have caught up with the Labour Womens' Declaration. Knowing this, I was particularly surprised by DL's recent comments.
It is bad enough that Labour down south is taking the position that it has, but SNP MPs are taking a similar position as NS has thrown women under the bus re the Scottish Act. I emailed my MP asking that she ask questions on behalf of women in the area, naming 12 women who have approached me (as a Community Councillor). He response was she is following the party line and that means only asking questions for transwomen and transmen. I asked how many transwomen/men had contacted her l and her response was none.
So this MP is prepared to ask questions on behalf of people who have not approached her, but not on behalf of constituents who have. Thus is not the first time we have had this response from her. If only I could find enough people to put in a vote of no confidence. Unfortunately there are few women in the area who are members of the SNP...
Lammy is the author of the Gender Recognition Act 2004. He's the man at the root of all the problems today.
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