The TWAW mantra has certainly created a whole generation of deluded TIMs. Even if you've had extensive cosmetic surgery, most people can still tell. If that hurts your feelings, then take it up with your allies who keep lying to you and enabling the mass delusions. Being able to distinguish male and female is an evolutionary survival tactic, it is not transphobic or hateful. In fact at the end of that exchange we can clearly see who is being hateful.
In London we've just had the hearing to see if there was a sufficient case to go to judicial review (refused). They kept talking about TW who are undistinguishable from women. ??? Like Who? Name me one.
I’m so cheered up by the wonderful pile on to Elijah Wood for agreeing with some American comic who was slating Caitlin Jenner’s stance on transwomen in sport. Everyone is calling out gender ideology because sport is the one arena where it’s obvious to everyone that men are not and will never be women.
did you happen to catch the survey below the Caitlin Jenner video on TMZ? 35k respondents, 77% opposed to men in women's sports. That's pretty typical of these surveys, I saw one on Jake Shield's twitter (mma athlete) and it was 5000k respondents, 80 percent against men in women's sports. This is something the public is pretty united on, encouragingly. I think the fact that this is BRUCE JENNER, athlete extroardinaire, means something to people...both of these poles by male athletes and both show the public supports female only women's sports.
I'm struggling to get my head round the anger at the bi dude. By definition, any guy that doesn't have a problem with your dick when it comes to having sex, is gay or bi.
Was he going to wait till he was getting banged <I>then</i> call him a f****t? What exactly was his endgame?
He wanted his date to be in total disbelief that he was trans because in his head he’s a convincing woman. So when the guy said he knew and that he was ok because he’s bi, that wasn’t enough validation because he wants straight men to believe he’s a woman.
Yep. The Man-Who-Thinks-He’s-A-Woman is irate with his lovely male date, whom he already kissed, because this MWTHAW is seriously mentally ill and in selective denial that he is actually male... a gay male who likes to dress as a woman. He obviously is not really looking for love...he’s looking for those to support his delusions. OR ELSE. Ooooh what ta catch! 😬😜🤡
It is terrifying what they are teaching in Medical Schools. The BMJ has even had to do an editorial reminding the medical profession that biological sex exists, is not the same as “gender” and is rather important to safe practice and research. The UK, or England at any rate, seems to be the last bastion of sanity in the Anglosphere, desperately holding the fort against the woke horde determined to drag us all into the abyss of unreason.
thanks - checked it out - very good response from maya, highlighting how important it is to have clear/accurate data about biological sex (and clearly separate from gender). datasets can easily get corrupted in the collection/recording stage - but if the initial questions/questionnaires are unclear or ill-defined in regards to biological sex and gender becoming confused, then it makes analysis almost impossible for data analysts - who create reports to inform gov or medical policies. i'm not sure if historians of statistics exist - but it would be useful to know when the definitions (of sex and gender) changed/became contaminated - and how that effected change in government, medical and academic policies.
Reminds me of 'The Better Half: On the genetic superiority of women' (2020) book written by a male doctor in his 50s (Sharon Moalem) who describes the blatant sexist teachings he was subjected to at the med school he attended in the 80s at a top US university, with the male teachers blaming the X chromosome for all the physical ills that men suffer, teaching he shows is completely unscientific and wrong. The de-sexing of medical terminology today is just the 21st century's version of denying the significance - and superior genetic strengths - of the X chromosome.
The AGP problem isn’t dismissed. Most people commenting admit, when asked, that they have not read the book and are basing their understanding on part of one sentence that has been taken out of context.
I can understand why transwidows have taken offence at the wording of that sentence and I think Stock is guilty of a bit of hyperbole herself there.
If those few words were all she had to say about AGP there would be a problem. However, those few words are not even about AGP; they are an opinion about how Gender Critical people tend to talk about AGP. Not how transwidows talk about AGP, although I really do understand why transwidows would be shocked, upset and feel undermined.
I find it hard to believe that Stock intended to trivialise the suffering of transwidows or the contributions that they have made to awareness and understanding of AGP.
There is an interesting review of the book on Unherd:
A real clown school... how about a gender neutral ant (name). These true believers have way too much free time on their hands, to come up with this nonsense. Note that the field has been trying to adopt phylocode (rational naming)... but fuck that of course... when you can make an ideological statement. https://www.bbc.co.uk/newsround/57006348
i'm not really sure what sam smith has to do with 'gender-neutral' ants (photographs of both ants and sam smith included with the 'pronouns')- this is one really confusing news story for kids.
That text tête-à-tête was like a puppy love romance gone wrong 😂
If any TIM believes men "don't know" then they're not the full ticket. I say "if" because who knows what the hell they believe, right? I suspect they don't believe half the shit they espouse but if they *do* genuinely believe it, we all know why.
It's the incessant infantilisation and false compliments they receive in their online echo chambers 😜 I'm sure it pops up on everyone's timeline intermittently for comedic reasons. You know the drill: "You go, queen!" "Sooo pretty in that dress!" "Wow! You look FINE, girlfriend!"
Julia Long is a woman you can trust with your rights. She's an incredible asset to every last one of us and lives by her words. A fiercely intelligent woman who is rather unapologetic in recognising and naming male violence and the systems that uphold it. When most of us were blissfully sleeping under rocks Julia was highlighting the danger of this existential fight we see before us.
Over the last few years Julia has received the most destructive horizontal fire from other lesbian academics and media luvvies. Often accusing her fearlessness in naming men as men as being unkind and unnecessary. Just last week one such academic included a targeted attack in her newly published book.
Julia has always stood in the way of the creeping erosion of our rights and I wanted to give her the opportunity to answer those critics.
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Hi Graham, I wondered of you might put a stronger warning on a Tweet like the one of the trans women masturbating out in the open in women’s restrooms.
I know you have a warning, but sometimes you can be a bit hyperbolic (no offense), so I just thought it might be written material which might make me not want to be eating while reading it.
I didn’t really check the linked Tweet of the feminist who shared it (I don’t know if she warned about the video content either- I can’t remember and don’t want to click on it again). I still didn’t get it, and clicked on the man’s Tweet, documenting this self-made illicit pornography.
I actually did get sick to my stomach. It was triggering in the literal sense of the word (of my PTSD). I can handle written content- though it’s probably not good for me, I feel I need to know (and I’m a radfem, so I’ve been abreast of this for quite some time, and follow radfem goings on, and am not about to let PTSD change that; in fact, it helped me solidify my radical feminist beliefs and alliance). But the videos were too much for me.
So I thought I’d ask for a bit of a stronger warning.
On a related note, I don’t know why everyone on here isn’t discussing THAT. It is, in my opinion, by far the most outrageous news item on here (yes I know the dismissal of sex in medicine has far-reaching consequences, mainly for women...I guess the dozens of videos of trans women masturbating in women’s restrooms is just so much more viscerally disturbing).
When “we just want to pee” becomes “we fetishized women’s bathrooms and locker rooms, and we just want to jizz in front of you and your daughters, in your space, while filming the whole thing.”
That women haven’t said anything when encountering these trans sex offenders in our spaces says a lot about what women don’t say, and also a lot about her climate of fear among women regarding this issue.
These videos should be sent to law enforcement, and also, to every politician or institution that has ever said “trans women are women.”
i deliberately didnt want to follow up the story and look, so i didnt. however we know what happened on mixed sex wards in hospitals (mucky men making sex-messes, and the rest) so regulations were put in place about the year 2000 for single sex wards- and yet it all slacked off (with pressure from TIMs?)
I didn't even bother to look, therefore didn't comment here, because I have just seen so much of this stuff that I don't need to see any more to understand what the problem is.
Good idea about clear, unambiguous "trigger warnings".
It is very important that everyone does become aware of exactly how depraved these men are but with care not to cause unnecessary distress.
There was something very relevant to this behaviour in a video by Sasha Ayad and Stella O'Malley on their YouTube Channel "Gender: A Wider Lens":
AUTOGYNEPHILIC MEN GET AROUSED WHEN WOMEN ARE DISGUSTED BY THEM
The key part of it is when one person's erotic fixation gets thrust upon another person, because that's part of their sexual predilection, and that's when it gets into very, very, I don't know, "unfortunate waters".
Where there could be some men who are determined to make you part of their erotic play, because that's what's turning them on. And so they, they need other people.
For example, like you know some people can get, especially men can get, turned on by the woman's horror and disgust and they're literally, that's part of the erotic kind of, uh, uh, yeah, desire.
They want people to be disgusted. They want people to look away in disgust. And so you become part of their sexual play.
"It's important to be "approachable by both women, birthing people and the staff is really, really important. Working with people from different working groups making sure you're apart of that multi disciplinary and inter disciplinary is really, really crucial."
thanks - an article about biological women slipped through the editors at the guardian at the weekend without the usual gendered amendments - about the peri/menopause. the peri/menopause is a female transition that can take ten years - so why all the rush for other 'transitions'?
Slings and Arrows is brilliant. Thanks for the reminder, I will watch the whole thing again. James - I envy you the experience of viewing for the first time.
This is one of the best articles I have ever seen on the subject. It is well worth reading ALL of the links in the article. I am truly in awe of people who can bring this information to us in such an astute way
Why do doctors and pharma sell gender reassignment treatments and not explicit sex change treatment. Is it because it easier to push a cure to change gender, rather than something real like sex, which is a promise even couldn’t deliver on. I think we should force them to change the wording from gender to sex and see how quickly they backtrack.
Pharma and Doctors will sell you anything they can make money off. I think we should force them to change the wording from ‘Gender Reassignment Surgery’ to “Fetishistic Medical Mutilation”. For males we could call it “Penis removal & creation of gaping body cavity wound that in no way resembles an actual vagina”. For women we could call it “Boobs sliced off to prove your not a butch lesbian, which you probably are.” (This way, no one would end up disappointed.). The entire “Gender Reassignment” Industry is a money-grubbing farce, exploiting children, the mentally ill, the gullible, and those who trust the psychiatric Industry waaay too much. It is used by criminals to establish new identities and erase their histories, and much more. Yes ALL the wording needs to change to reflect the vile butchery that GRA really is. No doctor should be physically harming/ removing healthy body parts from ANYONE, but especially never children nor persons suffering from mental distress...this needs to be made ILLEGAL!!
I have seen a few authors expand GRS to "Genital Reconstruction Surgery", which gives a better idea that it involves scalpels rather than a magic wand.
The TWAW mantra has certainly created a whole generation of deluded TIMs. Even if you've had extensive cosmetic surgery, most people can still tell. If that hurts your feelings, then take it up with your allies who keep lying to you and enabling the mass delusions. Being able to distinguish male and female is an evolutionary survival tactic, it is not transphobic or hateful. In fact at the end of that exchange we can clearly see who is being hateful.
In London we've just had the hearing to see if there was a sufficient case to go to judicial review (refused). They kept talking about TW who are undistinguishable from women. ??? Like Who? Name me one.
I’m so cheered up by the wonderful pile on to Elijah Wood for agreeing with some American comic who was slating Caitlin Jenner’s stance on transwomen in sport. Everyone is calling out gender ideology because sport is the one arena where it’s obvious to everyone that men are not and will never be women.
did you happen to catch the survey below the Caitlin Jenner video on TMZ? 35k respondents, 77% opposed to men in women's sports. That's pretty typical of these surveys, I saw one on Jake Shield's twitter (mma athlete) and it was 5000k respondents, 80 percent against men in women's sports. This is something the public is pretty united on, encouragingly. I think the fact that this is BRUCE JENNER, athlete extroardinaire, means something to people...both of these poles by male athletes and both show the public supports female only women's sports.
I'm struggling to get my head round the anger at the bi dude. By definition, any guy that doesn't have a problem with your dick when it comes to having sex, is gay or bi.
Was he going to wait till he was getting banged <I>then</i> call him a f****t? What exactly was his endgame?
He wanted his date to be in total disbelief that he was trans because in his head he’s a convincing woman. So when the guy said he knew and that he was ok because he’s bi, that wasn’t enough validation because he wants straight men to believe he’s a woman.
Yep. The Man-Who-Thinks-He’s-A-Woman is irate with his lovely male date, whom he already kissed, because this MWTHAW is seriously mentally ill and in selective denial that he is actually male... a gay male who likes to dress as a woman. He obviously is not really looking for love...he’s looking for those to support his delusions. OR ELSE. Ooooh what ta catch! 😬😜🤡
MWTHAW lol yep sounds like the whole thing is a fetish. their whole lives are a fetish.
It is terrifying what they are teaching in Medical Schools. The BMJ has even had to do an editorial reminding the medical profession that biological sex exists, is not the same as “gender” and is rather important to safe practice and research. The UK, or England at any rate, seems to be the last bastion of sanity in the Anglosphere, desperately holding the fort against the woke horde determined to drag us all into the abyss of unreason.
do you havea link to the bmj editorial?
Full text archived here: https://archive.is/UilTE
The Rapid Responses are also worth a read and are not behind a pay wall (unlike the main article):
https://www.bmj.com/content/372/bmj.n735/rapid-responses
thanks - checked it out - very good response from maya, highlighting how important it is to have clear/accurate data about biological sex (and clearly separate from gender). datasets can easily get corrupted in the collection/recording stage - but if the initial questions/questionnaires are unclear or ill-defined in regards to biological sex and gender becoming confused, then it makes analysis almost impossible for data analysts - who create reports to inform gov or medical policies. i'm not sure if historians of statistics exist - but it would be useful to know when the definitions (of sex and gender) changed/became contaminated - and how that effected change in government, medical and academic policies.
Reminds me of 'The Better Half: On the genetic superiority of women' (2020) book written by a male doctor in his 50s (Sharon Moalem) who describes the blatant sexist teachings he was subjected to at the med school he attended in the 80s at a top US university, with the male teachers blaming the X chromosome for all the physical ills that men suffer, teaching he shows is completely unscientific and wrong. The de-sexing of medical terminology today is just the 21st century's version of denying the significance - and superior genetic strengths - of the X chromosome.
I was just about to buy Kathleen Stock’s new book. It’s disappointing to see the AGP problem is dismissed in it.
🤔
I’ll probably still buy it. Seems like required easing at this point.
The AGP problem isn’t dismissed. Most people commenting admit, when asked, that they have not read the book and are basing their understanding on part of one sentence that has been taken out of context.
I can understand why transwidows have taken offence at the wording of that sentence and I think Stock is guilty of a bit of hyperbole herself there.
If those few words were all she had to say about AGP there would be a problem. However, those few words are not even about AGP; they are an opinion about how Gender Critical people tend to talk about AGP. Not how transwidows talk about AGP, although I really do understand why transwidows would be shocked, upset and feel undermined.
I find it hard to believe that Stock intended to trivialise the suffering of transwidows or the contributions that they have made to awareness and understanding of AGP.
There is an interesting review of the book on Unherd:
“Nobody wins the Gender Wars”
https://unherd.com/2021/05/nobody-wins-the-gender-wars/
A real clown school... how about a gender neutral ant (name). These true believers have way too much free time on their hands, to come up with this nonsense. Note that the field has been trying to adopt phylocode (rational naming)... but fuck that of course... when you can make an ideological statement. https://www.bbc.co.uk/newsround/57006348
i'm not really sure what sam smith has to do with 'gender-neutral' ants (photographs of both ants and sam smith included with the 'pronouns')- this is one really confusing news story for kids.
That text tête-à-tête was like a puppy love romance gone wrong 😂
If any TIM believes men "don't know" then they're not the full ticket. I say "if" because who knows what the hell they believe, right? I suspect they don't believe half the shit they espouse but if they *do* genuinely believe it, we all know why.
It's the incessant infantilisation and false compliments they receive in their online echo chambers 😜 I'm sure it pops up on everyone's timeline intermittently for comedic reasons. You know the drill: "You go, queen!" "Sooo pretty in that dress!" "Wow! You look FINE, girlfriend!"
Shit like that.
Before it's deleted....Joss sings on Twitter. Close your eyes & all you can hear is a tone deaf bloke. Delusional on every level.
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Over the last few years Julia has received the most destructive horizontal fire from other lesbian academics and media luvvies. Often accusing her fearlessness in naming men as men as being unkind and unnecessary. Just last week one such academic included a targeted attack in her newly published book.
Julia has always stood in the way of the creeping erosion of our rights and I wanted to give her the opportunity to answer those critics.
You might not be a lesbian, a separatist or a feminist, I'm none of those three, but if you care just one tiny iota about women's rights you'd be a fool not to listen to what Julia has to say.
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Hi Graham, I wondered of you might put a stronger warning on a Tweet like the one of the trans women masturbating out in the open in women’s restrooms.
I know you have a warning, but sometimes you can be a bit hyperbolic (no offense), so I just thought it might be written material which might make me not want to be eating while reading it.
I didn’t really check the linked Tweet of the feminist who shared it (I don’t know if she warned about the video content either- I can’t remember and don’t want to click on it again). I still didn’t get it, and clicked on the man’s Tweet, documenting this self-made illicit pornography.
I actually did get sick to my stomach. It was triggering in the literal sense of the word (of my PTSD). I can handle written content- though it’s probably not good for me, I feel I need to know (and I’m a radfem, so I’ve been abreast of this for quite some time, and follow radfem goings on, and am not about to let PTSD change that; in fact, it helped me solidify my radical feminist beliefs and alliance). But the videos were too much for me.
So I thought I’d ask for a bit of a stronger warning.
On a related note, I don’t know why everyone on here isn’t discussing THAT. It is, in my opinion, by far the most outrageous news item on here (yes I know the dismissal of sex in medicine has far-reaching consequences, mainly for women...I guess the dozens of videos of trans women masturbating in women’s restrooms is just so much more viscerally disturbing).
When “we just want to pee” becomes “we fetishized women’s bathrooms and locker rooms, and we just want to jizz in front of you and your daughters, in your space, while filming the whole thing.”
That women haven’t said anything when encountering these trans sex offenders in our spaces says a lot about what women don’t say, and also a lot about her climate of fear among women regarding this issue.
These videos should be sent to law enforcement, and also, to every politician or institution that has ever said “trans women are women.”
i deliberately didnt want to follow up the story and look, so i didnt. however we know what happened on mixed sex wards in hospitals (mucky men making sex-messes, and the rest) so regulations were put in place about the year 2000 for single sex wards- and yet it all slacked off (with pressure from TIMs?)
Please forgive phone-caused typos...wish I could edit!
I didn't even bother to look, therefore didn't comment here, because I have just seen so much of this stuff that I don't need to see any more to understand what the problem is.
Good idea about clear, unambiguous "trigger warnings".
It is very important that everyone does become aware of exactly how depraved these men are but with care not to cause unnecessary distress.
There was something very relevant to this behaviour in a video by Sasha Ayad and Stella O'Malley on their YouTube Channel "Gender: A Wider Lens":
AUTOGYNEPHILIC MEN GET AROUSED WHEN WOMEN ARE DISGUSTED BY THEM
Gender - A Wider Lens
EPISODE 20 - Gender Dysphoria in Boys: Part 1
23 April 2021
https://youtu.be/OruMEMgxhY8?t=953
15:53
The key part of it is when one person's erotic fixation gets thrust upon another person, because that's part of their sexual predilection, and that's when it gets into very, very, I don't know, "unfortunate waters".
Where there could be some men who are determined to make you part of their erotic play, because that's what's turning them on. And so they, they need other people.
For example, like you know some people can get, especially men can get, turned on by the woman's horror and disgust and they're literally, that's part of the erotic kind of, uh, uh, yeah, desire.
They want people to be disgusted. They want people to look away in disgust. And so you become part of their sexual play.
Stella O'Malley
Psychotherapist
===================
please sign this petition for reporting child porn on twitter, this is by a woman named Eliza who is helping with the John Doe case suing twitter for not removing image of his violation https://www.change.org/p/twitter-inc-make-reporting-child-sexual-abuse-material-a-two-step-process-on-twitter
From: @NHSEastEngland (!!!!!!!!!!!)
"It's important to be "approachable by both women, birthing people and the staff is really, really important. Working with people from different working groups making sure you're apart of that multi disciplinary and inter disciplinary is really, really crucial."
https://twitter.com/NHSEastEngland/status/1389970738933870594?fbclid=IwAR0ZpCWysg10Zx4ksRQRFlWmfbVeIyjRcGRQLJnMOsfxc2Jo9Mvm0r9eCPU
thanks - an article about biological women slipped through the editors at the guardian at the weekend without the usual gendered amendments - about the peri/menopause. the peri/menopause is a female transition that can take ten years - so why all the rush for other 'transitions'?
Slings and Arrows is brilliant. Thanks for the reminder, I will watch the whole thing again. James - I envy you the experience of viewing for the first time.
Agreed!
This is one of the best articles I have ever seen on the subject. It is well worth reading ALL of the links in the article. I am truly in awe of people who can bring this information to us in such an astute way
Why do doctors and pharma sell gender reassignment treatments and not explicit sex change treatment. Is it because it easier to push a cure to change gender, rather than something real like sex, which is a promise even couldn’t deliver on. I think we should force them to change the wording from gender to sex and see how quickly they backtrack.
Pharma and Doctors will sell you anything they can make money off. I think we should force them to change the wording from ‘Gender Reassignment Surgery’ to “Fetishistic Medical Mutilation”. For males we could call it “Penis removal & creation of gaping body cavity wound that in no way resembles an actual vagina”. For women we could call it “Boobs sliced off to prove your not a butch lesbian, which you probably are.” (This way, no one would end up disappointed.). The entire “Gender Reassignment” Industry is a money-grubbing farce, exploiting children, the mentally ill, the gullible, and those who trust the psychiatric Industry waaay too much. It is used by criminals to establish new identities and erase their histories, and much more. Yes ALL the wording needs to change to reflect the vile butchery that GRA really is. No doctor should be physically harming/ removing healthy body parts from ANYONE, but especially never children nor persons suffering from mental distress...this needs to be made ILLEGAL!!
I have seen a few authors expand GRS to "Genital Reconstruction Surgery", which gives a better idea that it involves scalpels rather than a magic wand.