Thank God for people like her. Love and support to the victim 💘. Horrifying story and totally preventable .What more will it take to stop this madness ?😭🤮💔
Especially the denial, sanctioned by official policy! Atrocious. But they didn't even say there wasn't a "man". but a "male". Biology-denial is even worse coming from the NHS. Hopefully this will be picked up in the media.
Bishops in Ireland were always at that. The Church had a name for it - denying that a priest in your parish had raped a child wasn't lying because you were speaking with "mental reservations".
Just read a letter of apology from Brighton & Sussex University Hospitals Trust to a rape survivor who'd written asking for female medic to examine her breasts, published as an example of "transphobia" (with her details including rape reference deleted).
Long institutional apology letter made a complete hash of critical terms: referring to "same gender" (instead of "same sex"), "assigned gender at birth" (instead of "assigned sex at birth"), and "natal gender" (natal sex).
Same hospital trust recently introduced cringeworthy gender-neutral language for midwives: "pregnant people" (term "women" no longer allowed).
You'd think they might have grasped the difference between sex and gender by now.
I think they deliberately use "gender" as that would still cover transwomen. Veneer of allowing choice, but actually not. Same as the poster I saw in my hospital earlier this month, whereby they would try to accommodate any request for a clinician of the "same gender" (cardiology - you have to strip to your waist). I really think it is deliberate. So you think you're allowed to request a female clinician, but actually you're not.
Mind you, my oncologist, breast surgeon and the radiographer who did my echo are all men. As far as I can tell there is only one female consultant oncologist and no breast surgeon. So it would potentially be difficult to request a female. In my experience they have all been very respectful and there is always a chaperone, though I have sometimes wondered about the motivation to specialise in a female area (breast surgeon, gynaecologist...) if you are a man. There is clearly a need for more women to be appointed... and I gladly change oncologist if I could (different story).
My doctor's surgeries (in both Greenwich, then Sydenham) both had a policy of only having female nurses for smear tests.
I'm not against men involved in such branches of medicine but women should still have a choice. I remember once having to wait over a week to see a woman doctor at my surgery because I felt more comfortable about it. When I turned up, a young man was sitting in her office. The doctor explained that he was a medical student on training. I politely told her that I did not wait that long to see a woman doctor so that I would have to display my intimate parts in front of a male student. The young man left without fuss. This was back in the happy pre GRA days.
My son is a first year medical student and at his recent first placement at a GP surgery, the very first patient the doctor saw needed a prostate exam! Imagine if that had been a woman medical student...
Need for more women specialists, absolutely. Greatest shortage is of female surgeons. Apparently male surgeons generally known for gung ho attitude & brutality: regard bodies as meat. Maybe necessary to cope with carving them up?
Yes, but had forgotten a lot of it so thanks for link: just re-read it. Pretty shocking. Seems to reflect so many things: male bias in medicine generally with male as "default human" & women as inferior version of males. ("Invisible Women" by Caroline Criado Perez has large section on missing medical data on women's health, due eg to exclusion of women from medical trials due to effects of menstrual cycle -- which should be explored, not shunned).
Plus male bias in hospital hierarchies demanding newly qualified Drs work 80-hour weeks, excludes women with family responsibilities not shared by (male) partners. And so on. What really comes across from article is that women surgeons seem better than men.
But fortunately not so much in the UK, or population would not be 51% female: with overall 2% difference between sexes not all accounted for by greater female longevity. Female foeticide more endemic to India, China & Asian countries with resulting M:F population imbalance.
Can be confirmed very early in gestation now without even looking at a screen. Approximately 10 weeks gestation, one blood sample from the expectant mother can identify HER sex (of course XX) and that of the foetus. I think it is quite recent this can be done but its amazing it can be....no possibility of "assigning" a sex randomly doing that.
It was always going to be a problem giving people the "right to be who they are" when that "right" is contingent on suppressing others' rights to maintain that from their perspective a person isn't necessarily "who he says he is" or who he wishes to be perceived to be. The obvious case is the man who despite having all his male tackle insists on defining himself as a lesbian. And sure, it's his right to do so til he's blue in the face, but it'll never be a "human right" to insist others have to buy the delusion, and act as if it was reality. Then we get the outlandish absurdity that actual lesbians who exclusively are sexually attracted to women with women's bodies, may not reject this person from their circle of intimate acquaintances on the grounds he is not one of theirs, without exposing themselves to the charge of bigotry. We arrive in fact at a dictatorship of perception, answering to a T the bizarre and ridiculous situation described in Andersens fable "The Emperor's New Clothes". A child could have and would have pointed out the man in that hospital ward, but a ludicrous policy of denial means that the adults "can't see" a man anywhere, and so can't acknowledge that a rape could have occurred. This celebration of organized self-deception can't go on. It's got to stop before everyone is driven insane.
Furthermore this travesty of just about every decent law and ethic demonstrates why the promises that GR reform will still honour the precepts for single sex spaces based on sex as a protected characteristic enshrined in the Equality Act won't be worth the paper they're written on, because you won't be able to claim a single sex space has been breached if you can't identify the breacher as not being a woman.
Exactly. And that's why already, legally single sex spaces eg women's Rape Crisis Centres cannot be legally enforced.
As a result, traumatised women are not getting the support they need because men, dressed as men but claiming to be "women", cannot be asked for a GRC or refused admission to female rape survivor groups.
I am currrently rereading Diana Johnstone's book about Hillary Clinton and the use liberals have made of the phrase "human rights" to do despicable deeds. This usage predates the rise of transgenderism and TRAs knew a handy label that would make the wishy-washy types succumb utterly to their ideology.
I'm increasingly tempted to think it's not madness, but very deliberate: planned to give men maximum licence for sexual offending without consequences.
(Rape has been virtually legalised in UK: women report only one in six sexual assaults to police; of those only 6% are prosecuted, with 1.3% resulting in convictions.)
US space communications engineer & entrepreneur Martin ("Martine") Rothblatt trained as a lawyer to propose all this at a conference (name forgotten, sorry) in 1992: still unfolding as planned. His net worth $303m.
Got two of his books (on Know Thy Enemy basis) not yet read but already know a lot about one "From Transgender to Transhuman". YouTube videos show Rothblatt's delusional ideas about living for ever via spare parts surgery, plus fallback immortality by downloading AI "consciousness" into robotic talking head (with ghastly representation of his wife).
Clearly knows nothing about Buddhism, which wd regard the "consciousness" download as conditioned egoic programmes... what OBSCURES consciousness.
These rich, powerful, delusional men have far too much influence in shaping cultural narratives, impacting on everyone's lives.
You have a strong stomach! I unfortunately will not outlive Rothblatt (when creeps die, I use it as an excuse to open a bottle of bubbly), but I am completely confident he will become food for soil organisms as all of us do.
These men are psychotic and in a sane world everyone would recognize that.
Yes. Refusal to accept death won't save him from it. Trouble is he seems to be highly intelligent & accomplished: but going after delusional ideas. The AI threat to us all is not least it has a proven anti-female bias.
Firstly, so as not to upset those who are on the ASD spectrum, I have ASD in my family and have loved those with ASD, and know that some who have this are also helping us all, feeling as strongly as we do in regard to how wrong Transworld is. It is my belief that Martin Rothblatt may well have Aspergers, on an alarming level. His mind in some areas is that of a genius, he invented a drug which, although it will never cure his daughter, will continue to allow her to live a normal life, so long as she takes her medication. But I've seen it written in some articles about him that he is hopelessly 'lost' when it comes to the simplest aspects of life, I believe it might have been his wife who said it, but don't quote me on that. He's already, as I'm sure many know, built a robot head of his wife, that speaks with her voice. There are many with ASD, those who suffer severely with it, who think entirely differently to many of we neuro-typicals....and yes, we absolutely do need the Asperger minds for they are often the very ones who are deeply creative, be it in music/art/health/science/dance/etc., forging ahead with those minds that never stop working. They too also often struggle with the simplest things in life though, just as he does.....
His mind, sadly, is way beyond beneficial to humans now, as he's crossed over into Seriously Fecking Scary. He will continue to do whatever he wants, will never listen to others who can see the bigger picture...and the danger...of what he is doing, planning...
He will attract similar ASD minds to him, even faster now via the internet, which has given a voice to those with ASD, glohbally, but worryingly, to those who choose to do bad things with the often incredible minds they're born with. They won't listen, and the more people try to stop them, the harder they'll fight to do what they want. They don't have any 'brakes', so to speak, don't understand 'barriers' or 'safeguarding', wanting a world where all are free to do whatsoever they want, where they want, with whom they want...
They do not have empathy, cannot read the facial expressions of others, and usually just do whatever they want with no thought for anyone else. This is not done maliciously, in most cases, but it's due to the pathways in their brains which lead to the Empathy Section, being blocked. Thus, they just make a decision and that's it, no other thought involved of where that decision will lead, who it will damage/upset, or, at worst, kill/maim.
TMS Therapy opens up those blocked pathways, which John speaks of, above. He has Aspergers. At present, TMS therapy does not keep those pathways open forever, BUT, years down the line, John, who used to make the flaming guitars for KISS, going on to have his own luxury car business, he finds making decisions VERY hard, where once, he had no problem at all, because now, his mind worries about how his decisions will affect those who work for him, his family, and his friends. Before TMS he just made a decision without any thought for others, with no view of 'the bigger picture'.
TMS therapy does NOT take away the deeply creative skills which so many with ASD are born with.
OH, that Martin Rothblatt could have this therapy....
You're kinder than I am; I think he's a bloody idiot. I used to credit most people with intelligence, but intelligence is more than cunning or shrewdness. Intelligence is the ability to put together actions with consequences, learning to transcend one's culture and society, etc. There are literally holes in people's brains who were not well-nurtured; the empathy center coincides with the ability to imagine consequences. I think Ashley Montagu calculated that about 5 percent of the people in any society are actually able to see beyond their society, and that they have more in common with other like-minded people across the globe than with their fellow citizens.
Imagine the horror. In the seeming sanctuary of a hospital ward, you are raped. By a "woman". Then your reality is denied and lied about. It's the stuff of nightmares. And we still have captured health "professionals" on Twitter insisting that the rapist is actually a "woman". This is another peak moment for the British public. These moments all add up, and then "suddenly" -- the whole shoddy movement falls apart. But it will have left a trail of broken bodies and psyches, heroes, heroines, and cowards.
This is where the UN Convention on Human Rights trumps any other legislation and regulations/policies. Transwomen have the right to present as women but they have the responsibility to stop themselves from using that privelege to rape others. NHS staff have no right to protect the perpetrator of a serious crime. If they do, they and the managers should be charged with enabling a crime to take place or as accomplices to the crime of rape. As should police officers who have been involved in the disbelief. That would soon stop this nonsense once and for all because everyone putting nonsensical policies in place would know they could be jailed and lose their jobs and lives as they know them.
But the UN 2006 Yogyakarta Principles on Transgender Rights -- agreed by 30+ human rights groups at an international conference -- forgot the existence of women when framing these "human rights". A British lawyer involved in drafting Yogykarta has since apologised for their failure in 2006 to think through the implications for women's rights, as "human" rights too. A bit too late.
CEDAW beats Yogykarta as it defines women by sex and has a bearing on this. So yes, trans people have rights but if you apply CEDAW, the police and NHS staff were in the wrong. It is down to the interpretation of human rights law and which conventions the GB government has signed up to. Overarching UN Conventions tend to have precedence.
I believe the UK is still signed up to the European Convention on Human Rights, but the current Tory government has been trying to get out of ECHR for years as part of Brexit, proposing to replace it by a UK Bill of Human Rights.
Which bit of CEDAW do you think would apply to the hospital rape case? I looked through it as summarised on Wikipedia, & it looked like Resolutions 1325 & 1280 might cover it: "Demand security forces and systems to protect women and girls from gender-based violence".
"Gender-based" has become rather an anachronistic descriptor of sex-based violence: but peculiarly apt in this case being due to bad / misapplied legislation concerning "gender identity".
One qualification: The original police officers may just as likely have been deceived by the hospital managment as the public are. There must be more evidence that they are involved in a cover-up than we see here. This more looks like the first investigation was sloppy because police initially believed hospital staff over the victim. We could speculate whether this has to do with police's general reluctance to believe rape victims. This is quite an issue in itself. But the brief info here does not indicate that police intentionally were complicit in the cover-up.
It looks like another case for crowdfunding, a very important one as it underlines TRA-specified use of dishonest coerced language as key to the whole deception, based on housing a male in what should be a protected single sex women's space. Plus incoherent, biased legislation. So lots of issues in one case.
Ben Cooper is making mincemeat of hapless CGD defendants as Maya Forstater's barrister, in her current Employment Appeals Tribunal. He'd be a great person for the hospital case.
I never thought there were any advantages to living in the Empire until Meghan Murphy said she envied our free speech laws. Here you bring a civil lawsuit on contingency; if you can convince a lawyer that there is a case, she will take it. And considering the victim's post-trauma reaction, she has a case.
“This speech, alone, should destroy the gender movement in the UK,” and yet it won’t. Because each of these cases is an unfortunate aberration. And it doesn’t matter how many unfortunate aberrations there are or how many victims, because they’re only women, not “women,” and we have not yet reached an unacceptable number of women-victims. We may never determine an unacceptable number because no matter how many, when the perpetrators are the MOST oppressed group, they must be the priority now and forever. Move along. Nothing to see here.
I am afraid this will work for some more time to come. But it won't work forever. Not even the Catholic Church managed to keep its crimes against children covered up forever. There will unfortunately be many more victims before this madness stops. But stop it will - and we should bring up how the Catholic Church managed to cover up how its priests raped childrend by the thousands for decades as often as we can. A lot of people will see the parallel - because it's there.
Baroness Nicholson is a brave woman to have taken this on, an effective one and a clear & persuasive speaker. But she has been forced to withdraw her proposed amendment to this bad legislation: opposed by mainly male peers.
Its real effects will be those on the public, via print & social media.
I think you are absolutely right. If you were wrong, we should see energetic responses in our so-called "civilized" countries to do something about the huge numbers of women murdered, assaulted, raped. Just another day in the U.S., life as usual.
The madness, because it is precisely what this dangerously idiotic situation ' is, must be challenged and persued until it fades into a whimper.-- no sound, no sight, no threat to vulnerable people.
This is now in the Telegraph. That poor woman. I can almost imagine nothing worse than being gaslit like this. The misogyny is disgusting. There is nothing they will not do to protect evil men.
This is horrific. I fear with all the other horrors in the world right now it won't get the right level of press attention that would make the public realise what is going on. The Mail have an article on it but call it 'trans rape' which confuses what it is, it is rape pure and simple. IPSO needs to be targeted next - the only reason papers like the Mail obfuscate these things is because of the IPSO guidelines. More people would understand what was happening if the papers could report it using plain English. Who regulates the regulator?
As mentioned before, this will be a nightmare very soon in Germany. Under the Self ID bill just about to be passed in German parliament, "misgendering" someone will soon be a fineable offense. This puts any journalist and medium at risk who want to cover crimes such as this.
I think it might be important to call up the nearest consulate and tell them you will no longer be visiting Germany. I am thinking of doing this in regards to Canada.
"Don't you see that the whole aim of Newspeak is to narrow the range of thought? In the end we shall make thoughtcrime literally impossible, because there will be no words in which to express it."
Even with policing of pronouns, there are ways of disowning them: like "she" said. They will have to police punctuation too. And then we'll find another way around it.
I listened to the wonderful Baroness Fox after Baroness Nicholson. Alas I hadn’t realised that was the result, another amendment withdrawn. What the hell.
Apparently this is very common. It's not a bad thing. It gets matters on record and means that they can be raised again, whereas if the motion is voted down, they cannot.
Claire Fox was a pain in the neck as a doggedly libertarian contributor to BBC Radio 4 "Moral Maze", writing on "Spiked", etc: in her role as founder etc of the so-called "Institute of Ideas". But she turned up trumps speaking for Amendment BZ2A on the Crime, Prisons etc Bill, for single sex women's prisons: a very good & fact-filled speech compared with ignorant hot air from opposing peers. (Also had to be withdrawn.)
She is tough & tenacious. So good to hear that Baroness Fox has done it again in support of Baroness Nicholson's proposed amendment.
There are a few criminal offences that the Police should be investigating here, and after arrests and interviews and witness statements, should then be sending to the CPS to consider charges. Indeed if those investigations don't occur, the victim has grounds to sue her Police Force and conceivably have them investigated for being an accessory/perverting the course of justice.
The criminal offences are (in England & Wales);
1) Obstructing Police in the course of an investigation - Section 89(2) Police Act 1996 (maximum sentence - 1 month imprisonment and/or fine)
2) Perverting the Course of Justice - Common Law offence - maximum sentence life imprisonment/unlimited fine
3) Aiding & abetting an offender - section 4 Criminal Law Act 1967 - maximum sentence 14 years imprisonment
4) Malfeasance in office - Common Law - maximum sentence - life imprisonment
Some of the above require DPP approval for prosecutions, but I wouldn't see that as being a problem in this case.
No. Not in such a case. A victim is required. If the Police choose not to proceed and the victim does, with a private prosecution, the CPS can apply to pick-up the case. If it chooses to subsequently drop it, a Judicial Review may conclude that there was insufficient cause...whereupon the Police and CPS run into both further criminal complaints and civil writs. This one, though we only have Baroness Nicholson's brief account, seems clear; that there is sufficient evidence to at least initiate an investigation and likely some arrests. After that it would be down to the CPS. The CCTV evidence would make it very difficult for the CPS to drop the case, and even harder for the DPP to recommend the same.
Thank God for people like her. Love and support to the victim 💘. Horrifying story and totally preventable .What more will it take to stop this madness ?😭🤮💔
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Especially the denial, sanctioned by official policy! Atrocious. But they didn't even say there wasn't a "man". but a "male". Biology-denial is even worse coming from the NHS. Hopefully this will be picked up in the media.
Bishops in Ireland were always at that. The Church had a name for it - denying that a priest in your parish had raped a child wasn't lying because you were speaking with "mental reservations".
When a lie isn't a lie. When a "woman" isn't a woman. When a rape isn't a rape.
Just read a letter of apology from Brighton & Sussex University Hospitals Trust to a rape survivor who'd written asking for female medic to examine her breasts, published as an example of "transphobia" (with her details including rape reference deleted).
Long institutional apology letter made a complete hash of critical terms: referring to "same gender" (instead of "same sex"), "assigned gender at birth" (instead of "assigned sex at birth"), and "natal gender" (natal sex).
Same hospital trust recently introduced cringeworthy gender-neutral language for midwives: "pregnant people" (term "women" no longer allowed).
You'd think they might have grasped the difference between sex and gender by now.
And they did not undertake to honour her request.
I think they deliberately use "gender" as that would still cover transwomen. Veneer of allowing choice, but actually not. Same as the poster I saw in my hospital earlier this month, whereby they would try to accommodate any request for a clinician of the "same gender" (cardiology - you have to strip to your waist). I really think it is deliberate. So you think you're allowed to request a female clinician, but actually you're not.
Scream! No you jist ma reaction.🤬
Mind you, my oncologist, breast surgeon and the radiographer who did my echo are all men. As far as I can tell there is only one female consultant oncologist and no breast surgeon. So it would potentially be difficult to request a female. In my experience they have all been very respectful and there is always a chaperone, though I have sometimes wondered about the motivation to specialise in a female area (breast surgeon, gynaecologist...) if you are a man. There is clearly a need for more women to be appointed... and I gladly change oncologist if I could (different story).
My doctor's surgeries (in both Greenwich, then Sydenham) both had a policy of only having female nurses for smear tests.
I'm not against men involved in such branches of medicine but women should still have a choice. I remember once having to wait over a week to see a woman doctor at my surgery because I felt more comfortable about it. When I turned up, a young man was sitting in her office. The doctor explained that he was a medical student on training. I politely told her that I did not wait that long to see a woman doctor so that I would have to display my intimate parts in front of a male student. The young man left without fuss. This was back in the happy pre GRA days.
My son is a first year medical student and at his recent first placement at a GP surgery, the very first patient the doctor saw needed a prostate exam! Imagine if that had been a woman medical student...
Our female GP did my husbands prostate examination. No fuss on either side but then my husband was always quite at ease with women in any situation.
Need for more women specialists, absolutely. Greatest shortage is of female surgeons. Apparently male surgeons generally known for gung ho attitude & brutality: regard bodies as meat. Maybe necessary to cope with carving them up?
Yes. Did you see this article a couple of months back: https://www.theguardian.com/society/2022/jan/04/women-more-likely-die-operation-male-surgeon-study (I'm sharing the Guardian link because of free access but The Times covered it too).
Yes, but had forgotten a lot of it so thanks for link: just re-read it. Pretty shocking. Seems to reflect so many things: male bias in medicine generally with male as "default human" & women as inferior version of males. ("Invisible Women" by Caroline Criado Perez has large section on missing medical data on women's health, due eg to exclusion of women from medical trials due to effects of menstrual cycle -- which should be explored, not shunned).
Plus male bias in hospital hierarchies demanding newly qualified Drs work 80-hour weeks, excludes women with family responsibilities not shared by (male) partners. And so on. What really comes across from article is that women surgeons seem better than men.
Not even 'assigned' but 'observable' at birth or even prior to birth
Eminently observable prior to birth! Hence abortion of female foetuses. 😟
But fortunately not so much in the UK, or population would not be 51% female: with overall 2% difference between sexes not all accounted for by greater female longevity. Female foeticide more endemic to India, China & Asian countries with resulting M:F population imbalance.
I have read that there are so many women murdered the world over that males now make up the majority worldwide.
Can be confirmed very early in gestation now without even looking at a screen. Approximately 10 weeks gestation, one blood sample from the expectant mother can identify HER sex (of course XX) and that of the foetus. I think it is quite recent this can be done but its amazing it can be....no possibility of "assigning" a sex randomly doing that.
Furthermore, THAT test could identify those foetuses who do have a DSD *very* early on. Long before it usually gets found out.
I notice that this is a regular mix up too by our American friends.
https://mobile.twitter.com/Womans_Place_UK/status/1204513886315122688
Thanks for giving the link I should have given! (Very difficult on a phone)
Can be even earlier - 10 weeks now. Blood test from mother can provide the evidence of her sex and that of the foetus.
It was always going to be a problem giving people the "right to be who they are" when that "right" is contingent on suppressing others' rights to maintain that from their perspective a person isn't necessarily "who he says he is" or who he wishes to be perceived to be. The obvious case is the man who despite having all his male tackle insists on defining himself as a lesbian. And sure, it's his right to do so til he's blue in the face, but it'll never be a "human right" to insist others have to buy the delusion, and act as if it was reality. Then we get the outlandish absurdity that actual lesbians who exclusively are sexually attracted to women with women's bodies, may not reject this person from their circle of intimate acquaintances on the grounds he is not one of theirs, without exposing themselves to the charge of bigotry. We arrive in fact at a dictatorship of perception, answering to a T the bizarre and ridiculous situation described in Andersens fable "The Emperor's New Clothes". A child could have and would have pointed out the man in that hospital ward, but a ludicrous policy of denial means that the adults "can't see" a man anywhere, and so can't acknowledge that a rape could have occurred. This celebration of organized self-deception can't go on. It's got to stop before everyone is driven insane.
Furthermore this travesty of just about every decent law and ethic demonstrates why the promises that GR reform will still honour the precepts for single sex spaces based on sex as a protected characteristic enshrined in the Equality Act won't be worth the paper they're written on, because you won't be able to claim a single sex space has been breached if you can't identify the breacher as not being a woman.
Exactly. And that's why already, legally single sex spaces eg women's Rape Crisis Centres cannot be legally enforced.
As a result, traumatised women are not getting the support they need because men, dressed as men but claiming to be "women", cannot be asked for a GRC or refused admission to female rape survivor groups.
I am currrently rereading Diana Johnstone's book about Hillary Clinton and the use liberals have made of the phrase "human rights" to do despicable deeds. This usage predates the rise of transgenderism and TRAs knew a handy label that would make the wishy-washy types succumb utterly to their ideology.
Thanks, I’ll check it out.
I'm increasingly tempted to think it's not madness, but very deliberate: planned to give men maximum licence for sexual offending without consequences.
(Rape has been virtually legalised in UK: women report only one in six sexual assaults to police; of those only 6% are prosecuted, with 1.3% resulting in convictions.)
US space communications engineer & entrepreneur Martin ("Martine") Rothblatt trained as a lawyer to propose all this at a conference (name forgotten, sorry) in 1992: still unfolding as planned. His net worth $303m.
And he's one of the "poor" dudes promoting this crap.
Got two of his books (on Know Thy Enemy basis) not yet read but already know a lot about one "From Transgender to Transhuman". YouTube videos show Rothblatt's delusional ideas about living for ever via spare parts surgery, plus fallback immortality by downloading AI "consciousness" into robotic talking head (with ghastly representation of his wife).
Clearly knows nothing about Buddhism, which wd regard the "consciousness" download as conditioned egoic programmes... what OBSCURES consciousness.
These rich, powerful, delusional men have far too much influence in shaping cultural narratives, impacting on everyone's lives.
You have a strong stomach! I unfortunately will not outlive Rothblatt (when creeps die, I use it as an excuse to open a bottle of bubbly), but I am completely confident he will become food for soil organisms as all of us do.
These men are psychotic and in a sane world everyone would recognize that.
Yes. Refusal to accept death won't save him from it. Trouble is he seems to be highly intelligent & accomplished: but going after delusional ideas. The AI threat to us all is not least it has a proven anti-female bias.
John Taylor Robison: 'My TMS Magic' https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=John++Aspergers+TMS+magic Important to watch to understand rest of my post below.
Firstly, so as not to upset those who are on the ASD spectrum, I have ASD in my family and have loved those with ASD, and know that some who have this are also helping us all, feeling as strongly as we do in regard to how wrong Transworld is. It is my belief that Martin Rothblatt may well have Aspergers, on an alarming level. His mind in some areas is that of a genius, he invented a drug which, although it will never cure his daughter, will continue to allow her to live a normal life, so long as she takes her medication. But I've seen it written in some articles about him that he is hopelessly 'lost' when it comes to the simplest aspects of life, I believe it might have been his wife who said it, but don't quote me on that. He's already, as I'm sure many know, built a robot head of his wife, that speaks with her voice. There are many with ASD, those who suffer severely with it, who think entirely differently to many of we neuro-typicals....and yes, we absolutely do need the Asperger minds for they are often the very ones who are deeply creative, be it in music/art/health/science/dance/etc., forging ahead with those minds that never stop working. They too also often struggle with the simplest things in life though, just as he does.....
His mind, sadly, is way beyond beneficial to humans now, as he's crossed over into Seriously Fecking Scary. He will continue to do whatever he wants, will never listen to others who can see the bigger picture...and the danger...of what he is doing, planning...
He will attract similar ASD minds to him, even faster now via the internet, which has given a voice to those with ASD, glohbally, but worryingly, to those who choose to do bad things with the often incredible minds they're born with. They won't listen, and the more people try to stop them, the harder they'll fight to do what they want. They don't have any 'brakes', so to speak, don't understand 'barriers' or 'safeguarding', wanting a world where all are free to do whatsoever they want, where they want, with whom they want...
They do not have empathy, cannot read the facial expressions of others, and usually just do whatever they want with no thought for anyone else. This is not done maliciously, in most cases, but it's due to the pathways in their brains which lead to the Empathy Section, being blocked. Thus, they just make a decision and that's it, no other thought involved of where that decision will lead, who it will damage/upset, or, at worst, kill/maim.
TMS Therapy opens up those blocked pathways, which John speaks of, above. He has Aspergers. At present, TMS therapy does not keep those pathways open forever, BUT, years down the line, John, who used to make the flaming guitars for KISS, going on to have his own luxury car business, he finds making decisions VERY hard, where once, he had no problem at all, because now, his mind worries about how his decisions will affect those who work for him, his family, and his friends. Before TMS he just made a decision without any thought for others, with no view of 'the bigger picture'.
TMS therapy does NOT take away the deeply creative skills which so many with ASD are born with.
OH, that Martin Rothblatt could have this therapy....
You're kinder than I am; I think he's a bloody idiot. I used to credit most people with intelligence, but intelligence is more than cunning or shrewdness. Intelligence is the ability to put together actions with consequences, learning to transcend one's culture and society, etc. There are literally holes in people's brains who were not well-nurtured; the empathy center coincides with the ability to imagine consequences. I think Ashley Montagu calculated that about 5 percent of the people in any society are actually able to see beyond their society, and that they have more in common with other like-minded people across the globe than with their fellow citizens.
Brilliant woman
She is. We should cherish her - she seems indomitable. And she has been very kind to me.
Imagine the horror. In the seeming sanctuary of a hospital ward, you are raped. By a "woman". Then your reality is denied and lied about. It's the stuff of nightmares. And we still have captured health "professionals" on Twitter insisting that the rapist is actually a "woman". This is another peak moment for the British public. These moments all add up, and then "suddenly" -- the whole shoddy movement falls apart. But it will have left a trail of broken bodies and psyches, heroes, heroines, and cowards.
Let's hope
Sex, Lies, and Videotape. Rapes, Lies, and CCTV.
This is where the UN Convention on Human Rights trumps any other legislation and regulations/policies. Transwomen have the right to present as women but they have the responsibility to stop themselves from using that privelege to rape others. NHS staff have no right to protect the perpetrator of a serious crime. If they do, they and the managers should be charged with enabling a crime to take place or as accomplices to the crime of rape. As should police officers who have been involved in the disbelief. That would soon stop this nonsense once and for all because everyone putting nonsensical policies in place would know they could be jailed and lose their jobs and lives as they know them.
But the UN 2006 Yogyakarta Principles on Transgender Rights -- agreed by 30+ human rights groups at an international conference -- forgot the existence of women when framing these "human rights". A British lawyer involved in drafting Yogykarta has since apologised for their failure in 2006 to think through the implications for women's rights, as "human" rights too. A bit too late.
CEDAW beats Yogykarta as it defines women by sex and has a bearing on this. So yes, trans people have rights but if you apply CEDAW, the police and NHS staff were in the wrong. It is down to the interpretation of human rights law and which conventions the GB government has signed up to. Overarching UN Conventions tend to have precedence.
I believe the UK is still signed up to the European Convention on Human Rights, but the current Tory government has been trying to get out of ECHR for years as part of Brexit, proposing to replace it by a UK Bill of Human Rights.
Which bit of CEDAW do you think would apply to the hospital rape case? I looked through it as summarised on Wikipedia, & it looked like Resolutions 1325 & 1280 might cover it: "Demand security forces and systems to protect women and girls from gender-based violence".
"Gender-based" has become rather an anachronistic descriptor of sex-based violence: but peculiarly apt in this case being due to bad / misapplied legislation concerning "gender identity".
Oh, whoops! Forgot those pesky women!
One qualification: The original police officers may just as likely have been deceived by the hospital managment as the public are. There must be more evidence that they are involved in a cover-up than we see here. This more looks like the first investigation was sloppy because police initially believed hospital staff over the victim. We could speculate whether this has to do with police's general reluctance to believe rape victims. This is quite an issue in itself. But the brief info here does not indicate that police intentionally were complicit in the cover-up.
In the U.S., the hospital could be charged with criminal conspiracy to cover up a crime; you could also bring a civil lawsuit against the hospital.
It looks like another case for crowdfunding, a very important one as it underlines TRA-specified use of dishonest coerced language as key to the whole deception, based on housing a male in what should be a protected single sex women's space. Plus incoherent, biased legislation. So lots of issues in one case.
Ben Cooper is making mincemeat of hapless CGD defendants as Maya Forstater's barrister, in her current Employment Appeals Tribunal. He'd be a great person for the hospital case.
I never thought there were any advantages to living in the Empire until Meghan Murphy said she envied our free speech laws. Here you bring a civil lawsuit on contingency; if you can convince a lawyer that there is a case, she will take it. And considering the victim's post-trauma reaction, she has a case.
“This speech, alone, should destroy the gender movement in the UK,” and yet it won’t. Because each of these cases is an unfortunate aberration. And it doesn’t matter how many unfortunate aberrations there are or how many victims, because they’re only women, not “women,” and we have not yet reached an unacceptable number of women-victims. We may never determine an unacceptable number because no matter how many, when the perpetrators are the MOST oppressed group, they must be the priority now and forever. Move along. Nothing to see here.
One is too many!!
I am afraid this will work for some more time to come. But it won't work forever. Not even the Catholic Church managed to keep its crimes against children covered up forever. There will unfortunately be many more victims before this madness stops. But stop it will - and we should bring up how the Catholic Church managed to cover up how its priests raped childrend by the thousands for decades as often as we can. A lot of people will see the parallel - because it's there.
We have to make it hurt financially. The more law suits we can launch the sooner it will be over.
Baroness Nicholson is a brave woman to have taken this on, an effective one and a clear & persuasive speaker. But she has been forced to withdraw her proposed amendment to this bad legislation: opposed by mainly male peers.
Its real effects will be those on the public, via print & social media.
It is on the record at least and it was good to see it picked up by some of the media
I think you are absolutely right. If you were wrong, we should see energetic responses in our so-called "civilized" countries to do something about the huge numbers of women murdered, assaulted, raped. Just another day in the U.S., life as usual.
She's so lovely.
Her crystal clear harrowing testimony
Thank god for this amazing woman.
The madness, because it is precisely what this dangerously idiotic situation ' is, must be challenged and persued until it fades into a whimper.-- no sound, no sight, no threat to vulnerable people.
Thankyou you bright intelligent woman!
This is now in the Telegraph. That poor woman. I can almost imagine nothing worse than being gaslit like this. The misogyny is disgusting. There is nothing they will not do to protect evil men.
https://web.archive.org/web/20220317203204/https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/03/17/hospital-told-police-patient-not-raped-alleged-attacker-transgender/
Well done, Baroness. Medics, ironically, are not scientists.
Absolutely amazing woman!
Holy- effing-Toledo, that was powerful!
This is horrific. I fear with all the other horrors in the world right now it won't get the right level of press attention that would make the public realise what is going on. The Mail have an article on it but call it 'trans rape' which confuses what it is, it is rape pure and simple. IPSO needs to be targeted next - the only reason papers like the Mail obfuscate these things is because of the IPSO guidelines. More people would understand what was happening if the papers could report it using plain English. Who regulates the regulator?
As mentioned before, this will be a nightmare very soon in Germany. Under the Self ID bill just about to be passed in German parliament, "misgendering" someone will soon be a fineable offense. This puts any journalist and medium at risk who want to cover crimes such as this.
"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command" 1984, by George Orwell
Very sorry to hear this. I will never knowingly mis-sex someone. That's Germany off my holiday list and I do so love the Mosel and the Rheingau.
I think it might be important to call up the nearest consulate and tell them you will no longer be visiting Germany. I am thinking of doing this in regards to Canada.
Good idea
"Don't you see that the whole aim of Newspeak is to narrow the range of thought? In the end we shall make thoughtcrime literally impossible, because there will be no words in which to express it."
George Orwell, "1984"
And people don't believe fascism is just around the corner! I find controlling people's thoughts and speech extremely fascistic.
Even with policing of pronouns, there are ways of disowning them: like "she" said. They will have to police punctuation too. And then we'll find another way around it.
Yes, for example by saying "her penis" which makes it crystal clear.
Salt of the earth, that woman.
Finest Sheila to draw air!
Feeling so disappointed that the extremely eloquent and dignified Baronness Nicholson was obliged to withdraw her amendment.
I listened to the wonderful Baroness Fox after Baroness Nicholson. Alas I hadn’t realised that was the result, another amendment withdrawn. What the hell.
Shame on HOL BOOOOOOO
Apparently this is very common. It's not a bad thing. It gets matters on record and means that they can be raised again, whereas if the motion is voted down, they cannot.
Baroness Fox..."wonderful" whit?
Claire Fox was a pain in the neck as a doggedly libertarian contributor to BBC Radio 4 "Moral Maze", writing on "Spiked", etc: in her role as founder etc of the so-called "Institute of Ideas". But she turned up trumps speaking for Amendment BZ2A on the Crime, Prisons etc Bill, for single sex women's prisons: a very good & fact-filled speech compared with ignorant hot air from opposing peers. (Also had to be withdrawn.)
She is tough & tenacious. So good to hear that Baroness Fox has done it again in support of Baroness Nicholson's proposed amendment.
There are a few criminal offences that the Police should be investigating here, and after arrests and interviews and witness statements, should then be sending to the CPS to consider charges. Indeed if those investigations don't occur, the victim has grounds to sue her Police Force and conceivably have them investigated for being an accessory/perverting the course of justice.
The criminal offences are (in England & Wales);
1) Obstructing Police in the course of an investigation - Section 89(2) Police Act 1996 (maximum sentence - 1 month imprisonment and/or fine)
2) Perverting the Course of Justice - Common Law offence - maximum sentence life imprisonment/unlimited fine
3) Aiding & abetting an offender - section 4 Criminal Law Act 1967 - maximum sentence 14 years imprisonment
4) Malfeasance in office - Common Law - maximum sentence - life imprisonment
Some of the above require DPP approval for prosecutions, but I wouldn't see that as being a problem in this case.
No. Not in such a case. A victim is required. If the Police choose not to proceed and the victim does, with a private prosecution, the CPS can apply to pick-up the case. If it chooses to subsequently drop it, a Judicial Review may conclude that there was insufficient cause...whereupon the Police and CPS run into both further criminal complaints and civil writs. This one, though we only have Baroness Nicholson's brief account, seems clear; that there is sufficient evidence to at least initiate an investigation and likely some arrests. After that it would be down to the CPS. The CCTV evidence would make it very difficult for the CPS to drop the case, and even harder for the DPP to recommend the same.