Didn’t meant to get this personal but here goes… I had same surgery but tbh my breasts were trying to kill me so a no brainer really.. but here’s the thing, they don’t tell you that by cutting across the chest they cut every nerve ending. You are numb. I have as much feeling on my shins as my breasts (new fake jobbies) but numb. That is a pretty big area. The loss of this was devastating for me. Luckily I have a sort of muscle memory.. don’t think I need to say more on that 😳but those poor girls break my heart. 😢the surgery is absolutely brutal. How those surgeons look in the mirror is beyond me. Monsters.
That’s true and when women aren’t getting needed health services how does Government justify it? If I was a kid I would struggle against Drs advice. What is absolutely certain is that a mastectomy would never make me a man or feel like a man. The whole idea is completely absurd.
Oh I meant that’s true about the nerve damage. My surgeries etc never made me feel less of a woman. The constant abuse, insults and oppression reminds me daily 😃. Fortunately I sincerely don’t care and am far to busy to worry about what’s in other people’s heads. Which is the key, I think, concentrate on reality and facts. These people can’t or won’t. Leave them to it as long as they don’t impede the progress of women. Waste our time, resources or life which is misogynists ultimate goal. Always. It’s a pathological infantile need in them. Well the pathetic and insecure ones who can’t take responsibility pull their own weight or meet their own needs let alone anyone else’s and cling to and control women as Mothers, the whole Madonna and whore complex they have is really dehumanising and sick, so needy and pathetic are they. Women don’t need to tolerate these dipshits. Says much about them and absolutely nothing to do with women or our reality. They really are criminal and embarrassing to do this to women and children.
Ness, I remember a detransitioner's account of top surgery having left her with ONLY a mix of numbness and pain. To the extent that she asked her lover to never touch her chest area.
Monsters indeed, these surgeons, and all the TRAs and 'ally' people who guide girls toward believing that variations of 'top surgery' are a must-have.
Yet young women who fall into the gender cult are indoctrinated into believing that there are just two options for them: wear a binder (with its associated varieties of pain, restriction, damage) or cut their breasts off. No other paths – eg accepting themselves – are considered possible. Thought is curtailed. (Obviously different circumstances for you, from the sound of it! Sympathies to you.)
I seem to recall there was a NYT piece about 3-4 years ago interviewing women who'd had bad experience of mastectomies, lifting the lid on their having not been told any of the realities in advance about the kinds of losses they could/would experience. I could try to find a link.
The NYT article was 'After Mastectomies, an Unexpected Blow: Numb New Breasts', from 29 January 2017. I don't subscribe so can't re-read to be reminded of what it does/doesn't cover, but recall it to have been pretty hard-hitting about the unethical yet typical practice of not informing potential mastectomy patients (women...) about the realities of the various losses mastectomies cause. Women recounted what had happened to them.
IIRC there was however no mention of the cosmetic, fad-driven mastectomies of 'top surgery'. Perhaps because the NYT would never wish to be seen to be casting illuminating doubts around such vaunted findings of true self.
Shocking, isn't it. In contrast, there's been high-profile coverage in British media today of unethical mutilation of puppies because of a fashion for cropping the ears of certain breeds, and described by the BBC in those terms: 'mutilation' due to unthinking 'fashion'.
Where's any comparable objection over these last years to the unethical mutlilation and harm carried out on so many adolescent girls (and boys, in smaller numbers) because of unthinking fashion? Harms which in most cases surely have far more serious consequences to the human fashion victim – erm, 'patient'?
Having a mastectomy or a hysterectomy for genuine medical reasons is a hard, hard decision. When one's body part is literally destroying one's general health, literally killing a person - the decision is not a choice. Even knowing the long term, permanent side effects, the choice is not a real one: likely death or more than even chance of life.
Too many women have years, decades of hell with conditions that only women experience and rarely get the right care and help needed. They have to fight to get the right help. And yet young girls like this who announce they are not female, who deny their biological sex, who have a mental delusion, are getting needless surgeries like this.
This is why surgeries like these shown make me so very angry.
No one should ever have such an operation for a mere "wish". These girls are not "non-binary". They are indulging in self harm and the medical profession who aided, abetted and encouraged should be jailed for abuse and harm. They have broken the first rule....
so sorry you had to go through that, this must be really hard for you. I'm betting the issues you had after op was not taken as seriously as any issues they have. 'you've got to expect ...' as in you've got to expect constant pain, you've got to expect it feels like dislocating your joints and resetting them would fix this but don't you dare your evil and causing us work. As opposed to you feel disabled come in and we'll chop it off. Completely twisted the meaning of taking mental health seriously this is not just confined to TG issues.
Debilitating and dehumanising...a woman’s lot.😜 It’s really all done along with the targeting, smearing and MANipulation to keep us out of public life and control of our labour, money and resources to benefit men. It was not so long ago that the expectation we would or could die, along with our children, due to disease , made us “expendable” I suppose So I guess improvement just shines a light on the existing issues but I’m always fascinated and horrified by the (now) obvious depravity of it all. Being erased, lied to and gaslit out of reality ones whole life is pretty oppressive. That’s why I sympathise with women and their children put into impossible situations still, primarily. Post surgical and lifetime wounds remain but don’t bear dwelling upon. Especially now good meals can be ordered in! Carpe diem and all that. We can still work toward progress and our rights rather than allow regress while we have our minds and aren’t silenced.
It breaks my heart to hear you say you think your breasts were trying to kill you! Allopathic doctors work wonders when there’s trauma and reconstruction needed, but this trans stuff seems like the proverb about when you carry a hammer, eventually everything starts looking like a nail. The number one vocation of psychopaths here in the U.S.A. is surgeon, so it’s no wonder we keep having these mass medical scandals. They really don’t know as much about health as they lead us to believe, and if we were just more aware of this perhaps we wouldn’t be so inclined to heed their advice? Sorry for your loss, and thank you for sharing.
(Long post, you may need alcohol and a sleeping bag)
I spoke to a surgeon who performs such surgery, a while back now, after his medical partner, also such a surgeon, had posted a photo of a T Shirt with mastectomy scars on it, (!!!) saying he was selling them for £20 each, as a bit of 'fun' for his patients, pre-op, and that a % would go to Mermaids. I believe it was posted on Instagram, but @ripxnutmeg has the details, as it was on their page that I found it.
I was incensed. I rang The Welbeck Clinic, where they operated from and went doolallytat, eventually being phoned back by the surgeon partner of The T Shirt Seller surgeon..(keeping names out of this).
He professed to know NOTHING about these T Shirts and indeed, he sounded incredulous and very angry, telling me he'd sort it out immediately.
We then had a very long conversation with me asking him how the hell they could both do this to young women, most of whom were nowhere near old enough to know what they wanted in life, and who had healthy bodies, with no physical reason to have their breasts removed.
He tried to argue that all their patients had been carefully vetted by The NHS for a LONG time, to ensure they were psychologically OK to go ahead with the surgery, and that their patients were very happy with the results given.
He also told me that a 17 yr old friend of his daughter, had committed suicide because she felt she was trans. I asked him how well he knew his daughter's friend, and that many young people become very depressed for all sorts of reasons these days, suicides having many layers of problems for each person involved, many leaving no understanding of why they end their lives. He did concede that perhaps there were other issues involved in her death, which he knew nothing about. I was so angry with him though, for seemingly, to me, using her death to try to justify what he was doing.
I also asked him if he'd known, at a very young age, when he was a teenager, what he wanted to be in life, what he wanted his life to be...and if it (and he) had turned out the way he'd imagined. He went quiet. I explained that even in my early 20s I had no 'plan' for my life, no idea where life was taking me...or how I felt about myself. He declined to answer this question...So, I explained that doing such surgery to healthy bodies of young people, SO YOUNG that they've not even started to even 'live' yet, SO caught up in the global indoctrination of Being Trans, of being told their unhappiness/depression was purely down to being 'born in the wrong body' was beyond wrong, beyond forgiveness, in my book. And to make vast sums of MONEY from it too, well that made it all SO much worse.
I worked in Harley Street for several surgeons, when I was younger, heart/eyes, so speaking to surgeons doesn't phase me...I don't see them as some kind of 'gods', or superior beings.
We spoke, a LOT, about Autism, and I pointed out that many of their patients probably had ASD, which meant they were doing this to young people with, often, severe mental health problems, desperate to try anything to make themselves feel better, to stop their anxiety/fear/feelings of being 'alien' in their bodies, 'alien' in this world...they believing all they were reading on the internet, watching the videos, listening to their schoolteachers, seeing documentaries/films on TV too.
As the conversation went on and I got angrier, he became more subdued and I sensed that perhaps doubt was kicking in inside him, that perhaps I was raising issues he'd not thought much about, or, possibly had, but had buried them deep down.
I felt he was fuming with his partner, and the post with the T shirts WAS removed very shortly after. His partner's still out there, with his 'look at ME!' posts, thinking he's God's Gift to this kind of surgery, (in my view).
When I ended the conversation saying that soon, Ithis would become the biggest medical negligence scandal the world has ever seen, he went even quieter.
I sincerely hope they all get sued, to the moon and back, all these surgeons, for what they've done/are doing to so many women...and whilst I know that some of these women WILL be happier for what they've had done, I believe many will not, often left in despair, not even voicing that despair, for many with ASD find talking difficult, emotions difficult, let alone being able to tell other doctors how they may be feeling...and of course, Transworld Bullies bully the de-transitioners so badly that I expect many are even too terrified to talk online about this, and that the fear which is so magnified for many with ASD, thus, keeps them silent.
Having also seen a lady who'd had double mastectomies, due to cancer, when I worked for a cardiologist, fitting her 24 hour ECG, seeing her scars, feeling her pain, it makes me even more angry that this is a cult being pushed upon so many young girls, in particular, whilst unscrupulous surgeons, with no respect for women who have had to have their breasts removed, to save them from cancer, line up to line their pockets out of the misery/confusion/fear of young women, now indoctrinated from infants, (!!!) to question their sex, by teachers (!!!), by parents (!!!), by doctors (!!!), and now, in the case of the sick SNP Govt, by politicians too (!!!), to also have to cope, when older, with horrific porn, and I can see why it's affecting so many young women so badly, making them want to opt out of being women.
Yes, 'The Mess We're In', to use the title of Graham's video discussions....and The Mess has never been so deep, nor so dark.
Huge thanks to Graham and those who help him, for revealing The Truth, for opening this dark, sinister world right up and blowing it all into the open.
with your connections do you know if are their any disabled 'rights' people (not necessarily charities) who haven't been captured by the transtrend? because a lot of disabled children/young people receive experimental 'treatments' (that might not have been entirely thought through).
Check out r/freedthenips for an entire subreddit dedicated to posting photos after this surgery (including one person who says “don’t wait for a cosmetic surgeon- I got an orthopedic surgeon to do mine!” 😳)
Warning: there are graphic photos of more nipple-less, breastless, scarred female bodies.
One young woman says “got the choppy toppy this afternoon,” and posts a photo from the same day as the surgery, which is pretty stomach-turning. Who even took this photo of her? It looks like it was taken in the hospital!
Also, “choppy toppy?” Why do these young women take this so lightly?
They are dealing with a profound mental illness, but surgeons think “yeah okay this is no big deal…”
Adding: they are dealing with a profound mental illness which causes them to fail to understand the gravity of their decision. To me, anyone who says “choppy toppy” about removing their breasts and nipples is not capable of giving informed consent.
There’s a surgeon performing these mutilations on young woman, who uses the phrase ‘Yeet the teet’. A surgeon. A so called professional. I hope when this blows up she gets the arse sued off her.
I can recall during treatment for breast cancer that discussions over lumpectomy and mastectomy really didn’t even register with me. It was a matter of my life which surgeons and specialists were expert in, not I. I had breastfed which is there function,I recall thinking, all my children and gave not a second thought to the way it would look. All of this unnecessary cosmetic mutilation and then the gross misrepresentations and erasure of womanhood and our biological and material reality are beyond insulting and grotesque, really. As if there aren’t important rights we have that are not achieved yet to fight for while men focus on sex and tits one way or another. It’s puerile.
So, this is the image of the new 'free' market money spinner to end all 'gender' free markets. Except it isn't free, but loaded with misogynistic lies , the highest cost for woman.
They don’t give a stuff about women and children it all about them.Everything centres men. What is sad that the oppression and internalised misogyny of so many people, who should know better, is so obvious. Idiots in charge, so what’s new? You have to be a sell out idiot to allow yourself to be so complicit and “climb the ladder” controlled by the most unpleasant men who’ve bullied and manipulated every other man. A female enabler is a truly pathetic creature to be pitied with her oppression and Stockholm syndrome writ large all over her. Wasting time on the ignorant is a debateable exercise given life is for the living and enjoying. Men attached to their privilege , notions of superiority and patriarchy will make messes wherever they are. But more noteworthy women than I have reserved a special place in hell for their female enablers.
Isnt all this woman hating entrenched within society structures? Patriarchal, constructed norms favouring powerful males, now including males who demand to be named as female---- some sweep is this in the name of takeover----
It’s gone on forever not even powerful males benefit from our labour but now we don’t die so much there are consequences to their bullshit treatment using us and then our children against us. It’s all about our time labour and money and estrange us all from one another for “use”. They would rather blame women and crash the world than admit their mistakes and pay us what’s owed. So...so be it. They’re killing us all slowly anyway.
This is a complete repudiation of the female sex. It is a slap in the face to the mothers who gave these individuals life and a perfect body. Shame, for shame!
Every area in which I have had necessary surgery is numb to some degree due to the nerves being cut, even after years of healing.
The idea of doing it deliberately and expecting it to be celebrated is indicative of some sort of dysfunction. One's body functions better as it is. Your anatomy doesn't care if you like it: it just IS.
One of the lessons of growing up is to accept the hand you're dealt. Accepting that fact is hard enough when what you've been dealt invites sexual harassment and judgmental comments (too short, too tall, too fat, too thin, bad tits, bad legs, ugly, etc...)
Expecting others to accept these alterations as good or appealing is bizarrely unrealistic.
I don’t understand these kids taking on the risk of permanent nerve damage and the potential for lifelong pain at surgical sites, just for a cosmetic effect. Not to mention the always-present risk of death from anesthesia or post-surgical infections. I don’t always love my body but as the book says, it is me, not something separate to me that I can carve into another shape that will temporarily please me or attract approval from online peers.
I know, and I find tattoos really unattractive, so it’s sad to me that most men and women my age have them…I suppose I can deal with a small tattoo somewhere, but full sleeves etc. are just a dealbreaker for me in terms of attraction. It doesn’t matter how otherwise attractive a man or woman is, if he or she has full sleeves or otherwise extremely noticeable, large, visible tattoos, I am instantly no longer attracted. I’m sure I’m not the only person who feels this way, and it’s not on purpose, and I hope not from prejudice…I can’t help it. It just looks so unattractive to me. Usually the artwork is not great, and the ink fades. And I think a lot of people my age now regret having gotten these huge tattoos in their youth.
It’s not even rebellious or nonconformist, either. Not if everyone is getting them. It’s actually more nonconformist not to have tattoos these days. And can you imagine being an 80-year-old woman with full sleeve tattoos? Just…blech. If it ever were cool, it won’t be then.
This new trend of removing healthy body parts is approximately 1000x worse.
years ago i had a large dragon tat where i was thumped numb (dv) - which i had done as part of a coping strategy - not to be attractive (+ repulsive to men who take the book of revelations seriously)- and i don't regret it. some women who have been abused by men who claim 'ownership', have freedom tats when they get away.
there really is too much societal pressure on young women (teenagers/twenties) to have surgery to look 'better'/different and transform to something else, to buy and be a consumer of 'beautification' -to be 'feminine' with fillers/botox/nose jobs/boob jobs/labial stuff etc.and if y women do not appear feminine to the doctoring judges (by not putting the consumer effort in and buying surgerical enhancements) they will be judged 'masculine' or 'trans'. and suitable cases for treatments - mad treatments like lobotomies/lechtomy till eighties (uk) if incarcerated (16+)- that destroy the mind (still ect that erases memories/stops memorising ability and long term druggings to block remembering/memorising abilities). it's not so much 'do no harm' from the profession, as 'damned if you do damned if you don't' for women.
We are living through a time that's going to be significant in 21st century history.
No matter what those caught up in this (pharma and bs 'charity' funded/politicised) cult will say today, we are the lone voices who will be proven good.
We are the ones who are standing up for women, lesbians, gay men, mental health, society.
I liken this trans tragedy to the early 20th century chemical castration of gay men or womens' underground abortions.
The creeps and narcs who jumped on the WooWooTrain (for themselves, of course) are equally complicit, but even worse because they don't even care and are fuelling more mentally ill youths into this irreparable body destruction.
Also. I won't be here for a while (broke), but I've loved chatting to and joking with you evil terfs. Awesome company, and great to know there is a resistance of feisty, opinionated and sharp (mostly) women here. It's great to know there are people like you about.
And Graham, what a noble thing to do, but please also consider writing again. Your comedy work has been proven to outlast decades of insipid rubbish. TV needs you.
I can't write that without sounding like a right brown-nose. But it's honest.
This is just so depressing! And now with this scotgov thing saying kids as young as 4 are to be confirmed as the "gender" they choose without the parents knowledge. Is it a coincidence that the SNP have got into bed with the greens whose deputy leader is 1. Canadian and 2. Trans. 🤔
Indeed, I fear for the madness which has taken hold of this woke infested lot; a cult, no longer being able to stop the drug filled flow of of toxcicity.
Those of us who see through this dangerous fix must keep challenging, talking, writing, shouting! Loudly and succinctly.
Unfortunately' the media BBC, the press etc, who should be challenging this vicious happening, are turning away; so called political correctness to the extreme.
Children being forced onto the path of massive deception, whilst this money spinning cult spins ahead. Yes, the SNP and Greens are way way off beam--- they seek to increase their popularity! At the cost of young lives.
I saw this article when it was first published but was unsure of the way Trans was used in the comment.
A person of mystery tho.Aa tried tae get info on her at the time. Beyond being born in Canada and attending uni...zilch. Found this tae be exceedinly odd. 🥴
In Canada it's easy to hide your birth sex, and if things go the way I think they're going, it'll be the same here soon. All Womens shortlists will be filled with TW and male enbys. Lorna says "as a proud transwoman" so I think that says it all.
Oh my god, this is heartbreaking. I learned that breast reductions carried enormous risk and discomfort, so to see this mutilation being encouraged/celebrated in young females is just awful. I am so sorry for these people.
We’ve fostered a culture in medicine where it is very difficult to challenge decisions made by Consultants. I had a blistering row, many years ago, with an Orthopaedic surgeon about the ethics of leg lengthening surgery. A surgery that is necessary in childhood for best results. Children of short stature give all kinds of reasons for wanting it, from wanting to be an Air Steward to simply wanting to ‘feel’ taller. Where limb function is not improved, there is very little ethical justification but much risk and it comes down purely to a Surgeons willingness to perform the surgery.
Medical ethics and the qualifications, experience and suitability of members of medical ethics boards needs a serious overhaul. The current system is not fit for purpose and aesthetic surgery, as seen here, needs far stricter ethical oversight and far more psychiatric input.
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i wish your research surprised me, but the profession has been growing the market for sometime - which maybe why the gra happened, because there is not enough money to be made if an individual has 2 years to think about all the surgeries they could have- and will keep having to remain 'attractive'. so a fast track process has been legistrated for - for maximum profits. capitalist growth based economics is of course totally unsustainable - and just leads to unnecessary destruction of the once healhy 'consumer'.
have you sent this (and any similar researched links) to the lgb alliance, because your research seems to show a concerted effort to marketise distress and push unethical treatments on children/y adults who might be unable to defend themselves when they are judged to be 'trans', and they may be struggling with the possibility that they are homosexual/bisexual.
The first marketwatch link was gone, but the second worked. Isn't it amazing how capitalists can write about horrors in such a neutral (some might say dead) tone?
Nice to see #IStandWithGlinner trending on Twitter. Of course there’s criticism from the usual suspects, but also lovely anecdotes from some people of how kind and helpful he’s been to them.
Didn’t meant to get this personal but here goes… I had same surgery but tbh my breasts were trying to kill me so a no brainer really.. but here’s the thing, they don’t tell you that by cutting across the chest they cut every nerve ending. You are numb. I have as much feeling on my shins as my breasts (new fake jobbies) but numb. That is a pretty big area. The loss of this was devastating for me. Luckily I have a sort of muscle memory.. don’t think I need to say more on that 😳but those poor girls break my heart. 😢the surgery is absolutely brutal. How those surgeons look in the mirror is beyond me. Monsters.
I’m so sorry to hear that
Thank you
That’s true and when women aren’t getting needed health services how does Government justify it? If I was a kid I would struggle against Drs advice. What is absolutely certain is that a mastectomy would never make me a man or feel like a man. The whole idea is completely absurd.
Oh I meant that’s true about the nerve damage. My surgeries etc never made me feel less of a woman. The constant abuse, insults and oppression reminds me daily 😃. Fortunately I sincerely don’t care and am far to busy to worry about what’s in other people’s heads. Which is the key, I think, concentrate on reality and facts. These people can’t or won’t. Leave them to it as long as they don’t impede the progress of women. Waste our time, resources or life which is misogynists ultimate goal. Always. It’s a pathological infantile need in them. Well the pathetic and insecure ones who can’t take responsibility pull their own weight or meet their own needs let alone anyone else’s and cling to and control women as Mothers, the whole Madonna and whore complex they have is really dehumanising and sick, so needy and pathetic are they. Women don’t need to tolerate these dipshits. Says much about them and absolutely nothing to do with women or our reality. They really are criminal and embarrassing to do this to women and children.
Thank you for being so courageous Ness N,your honesty leaves its mark---
Ness, I remember a detransitioner's account of top surgery having left her with ONLY a mix of numbness and pain. To the extent that she asked her lover to never touch her chest area.
Monsters indeed, these surgeons, and all the TRAs and 'ally' people who guide girls toward believing that variations of 'top surgery' are a must-have.
Yet young women who fall into the gender cult are indoctrinated into believing that there are just two options for them: wear a binder (with its associated varieties of pain, restriction, damage) or cut their breasts off. No other paths – eg accepting themselves – are considered possible. Thought is curtailed. (Obviously different circumstances for you, from the sound of it! Sympathies to you.)
I seem to recall there was a NYT piece about 3-4 years ago interviewing women who'd had bad experience of mastectomies, lifting the lid on their having not been told any of the realities in advance about the kinds of losses they could/would experience. I could try to find a link.
Thank you, they really are lied to
The NYT article was 'After Mastectomies, an Unexpected Blow: Numb New Breasts', from 29 January 2017. I don't subscribe so can't re-read to be reminded of what it does/doesn't cover, but recall it to have been pretty hard-hitting about the unethical yet typical practice of not informing potential mastectomy patients (women...) about the realities of the various losses mastectomies cause. Women recounted what had happened to them.
IIRC there was however no mention of the cosmetic, fad-driven mastectomies of 'top surgery'. Perhaps because the NYT would never wish to be seen to be casting illuminating doubts around such vaunted findings of true self.
wow. I can't believe they don't tell people this. What is going on with our health practitioners?
Shocking, isn't it. In contrast, there's been high-profile coverage in British media today of unethical mutilation of puppies because of a fashion for cropping the ears of certain breeds, and described by the BBC in those terms: 'mutilation' due to unthinking 'fashion'.
Where's any comparable objection over these last years to the unethical mutlilation and harm carried out on so many adolescent girls (and boys, in smaller numbers) because of unthinking fashion? Harms which in most cases surely have far more serious consequences to the human fashion victim – erm, 'patient'?
😢😢😢😢there just aren’t words….
Having a mastectomy or a hysterectomy for genuine medical reasons is a hard, hard decision. When one's body part is literally destroying one's general health, literally killing a person - the decision is not a choice. Even knowing the long term, permanent side effects, the choice is not a real one: likely death or more than even chance of life.
Too many women have years, decades of hell with conditions that only women experience and rarely get the right care and help needed. They have to fight to get the right help. And yet young girls like this who announce they are not female, who deny their biological sex, who have a mental delusion, are getting needless surgeries like this.
This is why surgeries like these shown make me so very angry.
No one should ever have such an operation for a mere "wish". These girls are not "non-binary". They are indulging in self harm and the medical profession who aided, abetted and encouraged should be jailed for abuse and harm. They have broken the first rule....
Do No Harm.
so sorry you had to go through that, this must be really hard for you. I'm betting the issues you had after op was not taken as seriously as any issues they have. 'you've got to expect ...' as in you've got to expect constant pain, you've got to expect it feels like dislocating your joints and resetting them would fix this but don't you dare your evil and causing us work. As opposed to you feel disabled come in and we'll chop it off. Completely twisted the meaning of taking mental health seriously this is not just confined to TG issues.
Debilitating and dehumanising...a woman’s lot.😜 It’s really all done along with the targeting, smearing and MANipulation to keep us out of public life and control of our labour, money and resources to benefit men. It was not so long ago that the expectation we would or could die, along with our children, due to disease , made us “expendable” I suppose So I guess improvement just shines a light on the existing issues but I’m always fascinated and horrified by the (now) obvious depravity of it all. Being erased, lied to and gaslit out of reality ones whole life is pretty oppressive. That’s why I sympathise with women and their children put into impossible situations still, primarily. Post surgical and lifetime wounds remain but don’t bear dwelling upon. Especially now good meals can be ordered in! Carpe diem and all that. We can still work toward progress and our rights rather than allow regress while we have our minds and aren’t silenced.
I had surgery to remove a submaxillary glad from the right side of my neck about 30 years ago and I have yet to regain any feeling from it.
It breaks my heart to hear you say you think your breasts were trying to kill you! Allopathic doctors work wonders when there’s trauma and reconstruction needed, but this trans stuff seems like the proverb about when you carry a hammer, eventually everything starts looking like a nail. The number one vocation of psychopaths here in the U.S.A. is surgeon, so it’s no wonder we keep having these mass medical scandals. They really don’t know as much about health as they lead us to believe, and if we were just more aware of this perhaps we wouldn’t be so inclined to heed their advice? Sorry for your loss, and thank you for sharing.
I get this but personally prefer to frame it now as having “LAUGHED my tit(s) off”
(Long post, you may need alcohol and a sleeping bag)
I spoke to a surgeon who performs such surgery, a while back now, after his medical partner, also such a surgeon, had posted a photo of a T Shirt with mastectomy scars on it, (!!!) saying he was selling them for £20 each, as a bit of 'fun' for his patients, pre-op, and that a % would go to Mermaids. I believe it was posted on Instagram, but @ripxnutmeg has the details, as it was on their page that I found it.
I was incensed. I rang The Welbeck Clinic, where they operated from and went doolallytat, eventually being phoned back by the surgeon partner of The T Shirt Seller surgeon..(keeping names out of this).
He professed to know NOTHING about these T Shirts and indeed, he sounded incredulous and very angry, telling me he'd sort it out immediately.
We then had a very long conversation with me asking him how the hell they could both do this to young women, most of whom were nowhere near old enough to know what they wanted in life, and who had healthy bodies, with no physical reason to have their breasts removed.
He tried to argue that all their patients had been carefully vetted by The NHS for a LONG time, to ensure they were psychologically OK to go ahead with the surgery, and that their patients were very happy with the results given.
He also told me that a 17 yr old friend of his daughter, had committed suicide because she felt she was trans. I asked him how well he knew his daughter's friend, and that many young people become very depressed for all sorts of reasons these days, suicides having many layers of problems for each person involved, many leaving no understanding of why they end their lives. He did concede that perhaps there were other issues involved in her death, which he knew nothing about. I was so angry with him though, for seemingly, to me, using her death to try to justify what he was doing.
I also asked him if he'd known, at a very young age, when he was a teenager, what he wanted to be in life, what he wanted his life to be...and if it (and he) had turned out the way he'd imagined. He went quiet. I explained that even in my early 20s I had no 'plan' for my life, no idea where life was taking me...or how I felt about myself. He declined to answer this question...So, I explained that doing such surgery to healthy bodies of young people, SO YOUNG that they've not even started to even 'live' yet, SO caught up in the global indoctrination of Being Trans, of being told their unhappiness/depression was purely down to being 'born in the wrong body' was beyond wrong, beyond forgiveness, in my book. And to make vast sums of MONEY from it too, well that made it all SO much worse.
I worked in Harley Street for several surgeons, when I was younger, heart/eyes, so speaking to surgeons doesn't phase me...I don't see them as some kind of 'gods', or superior beings.
We spoke, a LOT, about Autism, and I pointed out that many of their patients probably had ASD, which meant they were doing this to young people with, often, severe mental health problems, desperate to try anything to make themselves feel better, to stop their anxiety/fear/feelings of being 'alien' in their bodies, 'alien' in this world...they believing all they were reading on the internet, watching the videos, listening to their schoolteachers, seeing documentaries/films on TV too.
As the conversation went on and I got angrier, he became more subdued and I sensed that perhaps doubt was kicking in inside him, that perhaps I was raising issues he'd not thought much about, or, possibly had, but had buried them deep down.
I felt he was fuming with his partner, and the post with the T shirts WAS removed very shortly after. His partner's still out there, with his 'look at ME!' posts, thinking he's God's Gift to this kind of surgery, (in my view).
When I ended the conversation saying that soon, Ithis would become the biggest medical negligence scandal the world has ever seen, he went even quieter.
I sincerely hope they all get sued, to the moon and back, all these surgeons, for what they've done/are doing to so many women...and whilst I know that some of these women WILL be happier for what they've had done, I believe many will not, often left in despair, not even voicing that despair, for many with ASD find talking difficult, emotions difficult, let alone being able to tell other doctors how they may be feeling...and of course, Transworld Bullies bully the de-transitioners so badly that I expect many are even too terrified to talk online about this, and that the fear which is so magnified for many with ASD, thus, keeps them silent.
Having also seen a lady who'd had double mastectomies, due to cancer, when I worked for a cardiologist, fitting her 24 hour ECG, seeing her scars, feeling her pain, it makes me even more angry that this is a cult being pushed upon so many young girls, in particular, whilst unscrupulous surgeons, with no respect for women who have had to have their breasts removed, to save them from cancer, line up to line their pockets out of the misery/confusion/fear of young women, now indoctrinated from infants, (!!!) to question their sex, by teachers (!!!), by parents (!!!), by doctors (!!!), and now, in the case of the sick SNP Govt, by politicians too (!!!), to also have to cope, when older, with horrific porn, and I can see why it's affecting so many young women so badly, making them want to opt out of being women.
Yes, 'The Mess We're In', to use the title of Graham's video discussions....and The Mess has never been so deep, nor so dark.
Huge thanks to Graham and those who help him, for revealing The Truth, for opening this dark, sinister world right up and blowing it all into the open.
Brilliant summation thank you
Well done for getting in there too, that must have taken courage even with your employment history.
with your connections do you know if are their any disabled 'rights' people (not necessarily charities) who haven't been captured by the transtrend? because a lot of disabled children/young people receive experimental 'treatments' (that might not have been entirely thought through).
My heart breaks for these women. To anyone “hate-reading”: you are perfect as you are.
WTF happened to 'First do no harm'
No, no, first MAKE LOTS OF MONEY! Speaketh someone whom the surgeons butchered.
what exactly do the ethics committee do? how can they let this happen to teenagers/young women? what is wrong with these top-notch decision makers?
Check out r/freedthenips for an entire subreddit dedicated to posting photos after this surgery (including one person who says “don’t wait for a cosmetic surgeon- I got an orthopedic surgeon to do mine!” 😳)
Warning: there are graphic photos of more nipple-less, breastless, scarred female bodies.
One young woman says “got the choppy toppy this afternoon,” and posts a photo from the same day as the surgery, which is pretty stomach-turning. Who even took this photo of her? It looks like it was taken in the hospital!
Also, “choppy toppy?” Why do these young women take this so lightly?
They are dealing with a profound mental illness, but surgeons think “yeah okay this is no big deal…”
Adding: they are dealing with a profound mental illness which causes them to fail to understand the gravity of their decision. To me, anyone who says “choppy toppy” about removing their breasts and nipples is not capable of giving informed consent.
There’s a surgeon performing these mutilations on young woman, who uses the phrase ‘Yeet the teet’. A surgeon. A so called professional. I hope when this blows up she gets the arse sued off her.
I can recall during treatment for breast cancer that discussions over lumpectomy and mastectomy really didn’t even register with me. It was a matter of my life which surgeons and specialists were expert in, not I. I had breastfed which is there function,I recall thinking, all my children and gave not a second thought to the way it would look. All of this unnecessary cosmetic mutilation and then the gross misrepresentations and erasure of womanhood and our biological and material reality are beyond insulting and grotesque, really. As if there aren’t important rights we have that are not achieved yet to fight for while men focus on sex and tits one way or another. It’s puerile.
So, this is the image of the new 'free' market money spinner to end all 'gender' free markets. Except it isn't free, but loaded with misogynistic lies , the highest cost for woman.
They don’t give a stuff about women and children it all about them.Everything centres men. What is sad that the oppression and internalised misogyny of so many people, who should know better, is so obvious. Idiots in charge, so what’s new? You have to be a sell out idiot to allow yourself to be so complicit and “climb the ladder” controlled by the most unpleasant men who’ve bullied and manipulated every other man. A female enabler is a truly pathetic creature to be pitied with her oppression and Stockholm syndrome writ large all over her. Wasting time on the ignorant is a debateable exercise given life is for the living and enjoying. Men attached to their privilege , notions of superiority and patriarchy will make messes wherever they are. But more noteworthy women than I have reserved a special place in hell for their female enablers.
Isnt all this woman hating entrenched within society structures? Patriarchal, constructed norms favouring powerful males, now including males who demand to be named as female---- some sweep is this in the name of takeover----
It’s gone on forever not even powerful males benefit from our labour but now we don’t die so much there are consequences to their bullshit treatment using us and then our children against us. It’s all about our time labour and money and estrange us all from one another for “use”. They would rather blame women and crash the world than admit their mistakes and pay us what’s owed. So...so be it. They’re killing us all slowly anyway.
This is a complete repudiation of the female sex. It is a slap in the face to the mothers who gave these individuals life and a perfect body. Shame, for shame!
Every area in which I have had necessary surgery is numb to some degree due to the nerves being cut, even after years of healing.
The idea of doing it deliberately and expecting it to be celebrated is indicative of some sort of dysfunction. One's body functions better as it is. Your anatomy doesn't care if you like it: it just IS.
One of the lessons of growing up is to accept the hand you're dealt. Accepting that fact is hard enough when what you've been dealt invites sexual harassment and judgmental comments (too short, too tall, too fat, too thin, bad tits, bad legs, ugly, etc...)
Expecting others to accept these alterations as good or appealing is bizarrely unrealistic.
I don’t understand these kids taking on the risk of permanent nerve damage and the potential for lifelong pain at surgical sites, just for a cosmetic effect. Not to mention the always-present risk of death from anesthesia or post-surgical infections. I don’t always love my body but as the book says, it is me, not something separate to me that I can carve into another shape that will temporarily please me or attract approval from online peers.
they may be strong arm persuaded that it is the right thing to do.
I know, and I find tattoos really unattractive, so it’s sad to me that most men and women my age have them…I suppose I can deal with a small tattoo somewhere, but full sleeves etc. are just a dealbreaker for me in terms of attraction. It doesn’t matter how otherwise attractive a man or woman is, if he or she has full sleeves or otherwise extremely noticeable, large, visible tattoos, I am instantly no longer attracted. I’m sure I’m not the only person who feels this way, and it’s not on purpose, and I hope not from prejudice…I can’t help it. It just looks so unattractive to me. Usually the artwork is not great, and the ink fades. And I think a lot of people my age now regret having gotten these huge tattoos in their youth.
It’s not even rebellious or nonconformist, either. Not if everyone is getting them. It’s actually more nonconformist not to have tattoos these days. And can you imagine being an 80-year-old woman with full sleeve tattoos? Just…blech. If it ever were cool, it won’t be then.
This new trend of removing healthy body parts is approximately 1000x worse.
years ago i had a large dragon tat where i was thumped numb (dv) - which i had done as part of a coping strategy - not to be attractive (+ repulsive to men who take the book of revelations seriously)- and i don't regret it. some women who have been abused by men who claim 'ownership', have freedom tats when they get away.
there really is too much societal pressure on young women (teenagers/twenties) to have surgery to look 'better'/different and transform to something else, to buy and be a consumer of 'beautification' -to be 'feminine' with fillers/botox/nose jobs/boob jobs/labial stuff etc.and if y women do not appear feminine to the doctoring judges (by not putting the consumer effort in and buying surgerical enhancements) they will be judged 'masculine' or 'trans'. and suitable cases for treatments - mad treatments like lobotomies/lechtomy till eighties (uk) if incarcerated (16+)- that destroy the mind (still ect that erases memories/stops memorising ability and long term druggings to block remembering/memorising abilities). it's not so much 'do no harm' from the profession, as 'damned if you do damned if you don't' for women.
Tragic.
We are living through a time that's going to be significant in 21st century history.
No matter what those caught up in this (pharma and bs 'charity' funded/politicised) cult will say today, we are the lone voices who will be proven good.
We are the ones who are standing up for women, lesbians, gay men, mental health, society.
I liken this trans tragedy to the early 20th century chemical castration of gay men or womens' underground abortions.
The creeps and narcs who jumped on the WooWooTrain (for themselves, of course) are equally complicit, but even worse because they don't even care and are fuelling more mentally ill youths into this irreparable body destruction.
Also. I won't be here for a while (broke), but I've loved chatting to and joking with you evil terfs. Awesome company, and great to know there is a resistance of feisty, opinionated and sharp (mostly) women here. It's great to know there are people like you about.
And Graham, what a noble thing to do, but please also consider writing again. Your comedy work has been proven to outlast decades of insipid rubbish. TV needs you.
I can't write that without sounding like a right brown-nose. But it's honest.
Nah, you're right. I'm missing a good new sitcom from Graham too.
Keep yourself well Mr Bot :-)
I am so beyond horrified…I don’t really have words. Except that those surgeons should be in prison. We must stop this.
This is just so depressing! And now with this scotgov thing saying kids as young as 4 are to be confirmed as the "gender" they choose without the parents knowledge. Is it a coincidence that the SNP have got into bed with the greens whose deputy leader is 1. Canadian and 2. Trans. 🤔
Indeed, I fear for the madness which has taken hold of this woke infested lot; a cult, no longer being able to stop the drug filled flow of of toxcicity.
Those of us who see through this dangerous fix must keep challenging, talking, writing, shouting! Loudly and succinctly.
Unfortunately' the media BBC, the press etc, who should be challenging this vicious happening, are turning away; so called political correctness to the extreme.
Children being forced onto the path of massive deception, whilst this money spinning cult spins ahead. Yes, the SNP and Greens are way way off beam--- they seek to increase their popularity! At the cost of young lives.
By Trans do you mean a supporter of trans ideology?
https://www.thenational.scot/news/17819807.lorna-slater-green-co-leader-gets-bizarre-outed-trans-threat/
I saw this article when it was first published but was unsure of the way Trans was used in the comment.
A person of mystery tho.Aa tried tae get info on her at the time. Beyond being born in Canada and attending uni...zilch. Found this tae be exceedinly odd. 🥴
In Canada it's easy to hide your birth sex, and if things go the way I think they're going, it'll be the same here soon. All Womens shortlists will be filled with TW and male enbys. Lorna says "as a proud transwoman" so I think that says it all.
Oh my god, this is heartbreaking. I learned that breast reductions carried enormous risk and discomfort, so to see this mutilation being encouraged/celebrated in young females is just awful. I am so sorry for these people.
We’ve fostered a culture in medicine where it is very difficult to challenge decisions made by Consultants. I had a blistering row, many years ago, with an Orthopaedic surgeon about the ethics of leg lengthening surgery. A surgery that is necessary in childhood for best results. Children of short stature give all kinds of reasons for wanting it, from wanting to be an Air Steward to simply wanting to ‘feel’ taller. Where limb function is not improved, there is very little ethical justification but much risk and it comes down purely to a Surgeons willingness to perform the surgery.
Medical ethics and the qualifications, experience and suitability of members of medical ethics boards needs a serious overhaul. The current system is not fit for purpose and aesthetic surgery, as seen here, needs far stricter ethical oversight and far more psychiatric input.
There’s a mini series now! It’s really good. I think they used the actual trial transcript for the trial scene. it’s really realistic.
££££££ plain greed.
Sex Reassignment Surgery Market Share Current and Future Industry Trends, 2021-2026
"Sex reassignment surgeries are projected to witness exponential growth in the coming years owing to favorable government policies and rising number of cases where people are opting for sex change surgeries globally."
https://www.marketwatch.com/press-release/sex-reassignment-surgery-market-share-current-
and-future-industry-trends-2021-2026-2021-07-30?tesla=y
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The U.S. sex reassignment surgery market size was valued at USD 267.0 million in 2019 and is expected to expand at a compound annual growth rate (CAGR) of 14.4% from 2020 to 2027. The rising incidences of gender dysphoria and the increasing number of people deciding for gender confirmation surgeries are expected to boost market growth over the forecast period. Sex reassignment surgeries are performed by a multispecialty staff that usually involves board-certified or licensed plastic surgeons. The objective of surgical procedure is to give transgender individuals the functional abilities and physical appearance of the gender they align their emotional and psychological identity with. It includes procedures such as facial feminization surgery, transfeminine bottom surgery, transfeminine top surgery, transmasculine top surgery, facial masculinization surgery, and transmasculine bottom surgery.
https://www.gminsights.com/industry-analysis/sex-reassignment-surgery-market
https://www.marketwatch.com/press-release/sex-reassignment-surgery-market-share-current-and-future-industry-trends-2021-2026-2021-07-30?tesla=y
i wish your research surprised me, but the profession has been growing the market for sometime - which maybe why the gra happened, because there is not enough money to be made if an individual has 2 years to think about all the surgeries they could have- and will keep having to remain 'attractive'. so a fast track process has been legistrated for - for maximum profits. capitalist growth based economics is of course totally unsustainable - and just leads to unnecessary destruction of the once healhy 'consumer'.
have you sent this (and any similar researched links) to the lgb alliance, because your research seems to show a concerted effort to marketise distress and push unethical treatments on children/y adults who might be unable to defend themselves when they are judged to be 'trans', and they may be struggling with the possibility that they are homosexual/bisexual.
The first marketwatch link was gone, but the second worked. Isn't it amazing how capitalists can write about horrors in such a neutral (some might say dead) tone?
Nice to see #IStandWithGlinner trending on Twitter. Of course there’s criticism from the usual suspects, but also lovely anecdotes from some people of how kind and helpful he’s been to them.