This is one of the most frightening articles I have ever read. I cannot understand why our freedom of speech and freedom of expression has been so eroded that it has come to the point where the majority of voters, tax payers, and the general populace, have become thought criminals. Here is my point: Think about what thought is. Many academics believe that a great deal of thought is subvocal speech. In other words, you speak to your own mind using the language you speak with your mouth. you speak inside your mind to yourself without using your mouth and vocal cords to openly speak the words. If you are unable to speak those thoughts through fear of the law then you have lost the freedom to speak your mind, freedom of speech. If you are unable to write what you want to write for fear of the law you have lost the freedom of expression. In the book 1984 by George Orwell, Winston Smith lost even the ability to speak the truth. Never let the police or politicians tell you that 2+2=5. Never bow to a lie. Never let others lies be law above the truth. I do not know what words caused PC Laura Daily to react but, whatever it was, I believe the police should keep their noses out of policing thought, language, and expression, unless it libels a person or issues a direct threat to a named individual. There was a time when we were free, but now the tail wagging the dog is all powerful. Be careful but be prepared to act in favour of freedom
Such a hugely disturbing story this one. I sincerely hope she's able to sue everyone in Police Scotland who needs to be sued over this...and then some! I'd be happy, like many others, to contribute to a crowdfunder for her.
Why anyone voted for The SNP when they know they want Self ID, have included men in the meaning of 'women' (!!GRRRBIMBAMBOFFGRRRR!!), have a bloke running a rape centre, have Little Miss Mhairi spouting "but your toilet at home is gender neutral' whilst walking round in a T Shirt with 'you can pee next to me' on it, I've NO idea...and I've not even mentioned Humza 'AllWomenWILLObeyME' Yusuf yet.....
I mean, there are a lot of answers to this, but the big one is that there's no-one else to vote for. The Tories are a hard sell in Scotland (although I sucked it up and voted for them in the recent elections, b/c no choice), Labour are lost in the political wilderness and also fond of men in dresses over women (they stood one in my constituency), the LibDems are men's rights all the way and the Greens are just the SNP under another name. The SNP also throw money at people- hundreds of thousands of NHS workers got a bonus and a raise, they upped the student loan threshold for repayment to put money in the pockets of everyone with a loan 1998 and after... it goes on. Many of their supporters are pro-independence men in the central belt who don't care about women in the slightest. Bottom line is, until Labour start caring about working class issues again instead of obsessing over idpol, the SNP will have Scotland.
Most if not all who voted SNP are like myself. Independenistas. I want Scotland to be an Independent democratic country. The SNP is the only party able to deliver this.
It doesn't stop people engaging in democratic politics ie agitating , campaigning and demonstrating for women's rights.
Labour is a social imperialist party and has served to con the workers draining away their anger.
Please keep us posted as to useful ways we can help her and push back on this issue (inside and outside of Scotland).
I am not in Scotland, but I do want to make sure she has help paying for good legal representation.
(Also, if I'm being overly honest: seeing this happen in Scotland, of all places, has really truly astonished me. The Scots are the absolute last people I'd have thought would sit by while police on a power trip threaten them and their freedom of speech and thought are taken away.)
Nicola Sturgeon is doing handstands and juggling with fire to get the EU to recognise Scotland as an independent nation. Recently her parliament enacted several laws which aim to punish those who dare to oppose hers, and the EU's, Draconian laws on freedom of speech, especially against transgender, scottish citizens, and illegal immigrants
Having been a supporter of independence for Scotland for well over 40 years, I have to say, I now think that we (women and girls) are safer in Scotland while it is still part of the UK. There is no party in Scotland that can be trusted with governing a newly independent country. Think Brexit under the Tories when you think independence under SNP.
my firm belief is in cases like this the laws are in consideration and some TRA deep pocket comes along and says, include trans folks in that and well float you some dough, cause one thing these uber privileged ruling caste mostly white males do seem to have PLENTY of is money to buy their way into all these laws and governing orgs. What seems to be happening across the world is really sad though, it looks like a trend of driving western democracies to the right just on basis of people not trusting the 'woke' anymore or people who bring that line of thinking to the table...in the US in particular though most voters are independent, we have no centrist representation.
I don't understand why you are astonished that this took place in Scotland. It is us who have a law that states: A person is a member of a group defined by reference to transgender identity if the person is—
Which means that drag "artists" have more rights under hate crime legislation than me... This Act would be funny if it was part of a TV show or film. Unfortunately, it has become our reality.
I know how easy it is to be arrested for a hate crime - it happened to my partner following a falling out with an Indian landlord who has a flat in our close. A month later the Police huckle my partner to a police station in the next county on a charge of racism - allegedly calling this Indian man "a f*****g Paki". I was there at the time of the alledged incident and it didn't happen. The one effing and blinding was the accuser...My partner was brought home with a warning to keep his mouth shut when about this individual. I now have to answer the door...
I'm not in Scotland either but it's like watching a tsunami coming. It's a masterclass on how to tear apart left wing political movements while destroying all progress.
Must be a slow day at the cop shop when cells are reserved for GC Twitter users. I mean really?
I'm having trouble finding it but wasn't there a recent article (possibly related to university level discourse) that women should not be harassed and intimidated by questioning gender identity ideology? House of Lords peer spoke out too? Was I dreaming? 😁
Obviously I don't know what the tweet was and if it was GC or not but the idea of thought-police was supposed to be an Orwellian warning, not a recommended framework for actual police conduct. Blimey.
It makes me think that it was probably milquetoast, if someone came to my door or called saying you are under investigation for transphobic tweets I'd literally have to say 'which one' on what platform...cause like most people here I tick all the boxes. Before I left twitter I was getting reported every other day by someone in Germany because they passed that statute. (Emily Goreyskanky lives in germany and has umpteen websites devoted to this so is probably behind the passage of that statuted and the organizing of these folks to make sure that everyone who possibly violates it gets reported...the police are not looking for these people, the TRA are literally scanning posts probably with search terms looking for people to report. I imagine the police are probably sick of it cause what an utter waste of police resources. Except of course the LGBT police folks, they probably love it.
Surely all actual criminal activity has been so effectively managed since the police have time to bully people like this... No? Then get back to genuine police work instead of wasting police resources on the enforcement of a non-scientific ideology that’s funded by Big Pharma.
I read that several times - it's so hard to think this is happening here. Well, ok, north of the border. We obviously need to let Marion know we are all here and ready to help. Don't know how to do that but I imagine someone somewhere will tell her. Bloody awful to even think this but it may be just the test case we need.
Seems very dubious police procedure to ring a citizen up with intimidating threats of arrest and incarceration without even specifying on what charge other than some fully banal empty accusation of homo and trans phobic tweets. The Harry Miller case demonstrated that these procedures usually are because of some busybody who has the luxury of being able to hide behind anonymity with nothing better to do than persecute anyone they discover on Twitter saying something they don't like, and usually completely non criminal. But just because it's been reported it has to be investigated and registered as non criminal hate episode. This police officer to me seems pretty incompetent or else she has an axe to grind.
The worst thing about this case, in my view? Police are targetting a woman with TWO AUTISTIC SONS, who is fighting 'for the safety and dignity of women and girls and for my vulnerable twinnies.'
She must know from maternal knowledge, in ways that others don't yet fully grasp, the several ways in which autistic kids are especially vulnerable to the pied piper of gender BS. The reasons why a whopping 35-40% of under-18s funneled to Tavi GIDS are on the autism spectrum (David Bell).
Damn them. All of them who push and enforce this monstrous crap. Can't believe this has happened to her.
I would also like to help this woman if I could. Orwell's 1984 immediately springs to mind, I agree with you Z3r0. We have hope that the madness is being exposed, then reports such as this sending us back into the abyss.
This really sounds like a stalking issue to me. It seems very personal, very vindictive, especially the threats to her potentially losing custody of her children. Whether it's Daly herself or someone using her as a proxy. Very frightening. If there's a need for a legal costs crowdfunder I'll support it.
I must add that this man is actually from En Marche, which is basically on the side of the woke movement, not too loudly, not too openly _ but they're a side that would never go to face the woke movement. Never before today because they know that there is an election within a year and that, apart from a crazy bunch of dangerous and stupid people, nobody, and I insist, nobody, whatever their religion or political stance, will accept that their family be subjected to such an outrageous, unnatural and destructive option _ gender-neutral nouns... That is forever No!!! Should he do that, the Gilets Jaunes are back in the streets straight away and En Marche's fate for 2022 is sealed! Nobody with a minimum of mental sanity will go cast a vote for En Marche, even in the first round if they happen to do that. I dare think this subject is strong enough in France that they will never try to force it on us even if we have the misfortune to see them reelected.
This is one of the most frightening articles I have ever read. I cannot understand why our freedom of speech and freedom of expression has been so eroded that it has come to the point where the majority of voters, tax payers, and the general populace, have become thought criminals. Here is my point: Think about what thought is. Many academics believe that a great deal of thought is subvocal speech. In other words, you speak to your own mind using the language you speak with your mouth. you speak inside your mind to yourself without using your mouth and vocal cords to openly speak the words. If you are unable to speak those thoughts through fear of the law then you have lost the freedom to speak your mind, freedom of speech. If you are unable to write what you want to write for fear of the law you have lost the freedom of expression. In the book 1984 by George Orwell, Winston Smith lost even the ability to speak the truth. Never let the police or politicians tell you that 2+2=5. Never bow to a lie. Never let others lies be law above the truth. I do not know what words caused PC Laura Daily to react but, whatever it was, I believe the police should keep their noses out of policing thought, language, and expression, unless it libels a person or issues a direct threat to a named individual. There was a time when we were free, but now the tail wagging the dog is all powerful. Be careful but be prepared to act in favour of freedom
The tactics used by gender enforcers are exactly the same as domestic abusers and to pretty much the same end.
Totally agree. It is frightening and manipulative to the extreme the tactics that are being used by gendernazi's
very profound.
How can we help? This poor woman must be terrified. This is insane
Surely the burden of proof should be on the accuser. I wonder why there's been no further response from that cop
Such a hugely disturbing story this one. I sincerely hope she's able to sue everyone in Police Scotland who needs to be sued over this...and then some! I'd be happy, like many others, to contribute to a crowdfunder for her.
Meanwhile, here's a disturbing thread on The SNP, scroll down and down and down: https://twitter.com/FananaBana/status/1389915279019450371
Why anyone voted for The SNP when they know they want Self ID, have included men in the meaning of 'women' (!!GRRRBIMBAMBOFFGRRRR!!), have a bloke running a rape centre, have Little Miss Mhairi spouting "but your toilet at home is gender neutral' whilst walking round in a T Shirt with 'you can pee next to me' on it, I've NO idea...and I've not even mentioned Humza 'AllWomenWILLObeyME' Yusuf yet.....
I mean, there are a lot of answers to this, but the big one is that there's no-one else to vote for. The Tories are a hard sell in Scotland (although I sucked it up and voted for them in the recent elections, b/c no choice), Labour are lost in the political wilderness and also fond of men in dresses over women (they stood one in my constituency), the LibDems are men's rights all the way and the Greens are just the SNP under another name. The SNP also throw money at people- hundreds of thousands of NHS workers got a bonus and a raise, they upped the student loan threshold for repayment to put money in the pockets of everyone with a loan 1998 and after... it goes on. Many of their supporters are pro-independence men in the central belt who don't care about women in the slightest. Bottom line is, until Labour start caring about working class issues again instead of obsessing over idpol, the SNP will have Scotland.
Most if not all who voted SNP are like myself. Independenistas. I want Scotland to be an Independent democratic country. The SNP is the only party able to deliver this.
It doesn't stop people engaging in democratic politics ie agitating , campaigning and demonstrating for women's rights.
Labour is a social imperialist party and has served to con the workers draining away their anger.
Please keep us posted as to useful ways we can help her and push back on this issue (inside and outside of Scotland).
I am not in Scotland, but I do want to make sure she has help paying for good legal representation.
(Also, if I'm being overly honest: seeing this happen in Scotland, of all places, has really truly astonished me. The Scots are the absolute last people I'd have thought would sit by while police on a power trip threaten them and their freedom of speech and thought are taken away.)
Not in Scotland either, but I would contribute to a fund to pay legal fees. This is absolutely disgusting.
Nicola Sturgeon is doing handstands and juggling with fire to get the EU to recognise Scotland as an independent nation. Recently her parliament enacted several laws which aim to punish those who dare to oppose hers, and the EU's, Draconian laws on freedom of speech, especially against transgender, scottish citizens, and illegal immigrants
This explains why I'm seeing increasing amounts of Scots saying independence can't come at this price. Thanks for the expanded insight
That is GREAT to hear. and it appears as if France is giving the TRA movement a firm middle finger too.
Well all I can say to those who say "Indy can't come at this price" is indy can't wait. No reason why both issues can't be fought for in tandem.
Having been a supporter of independence for Scotland for well over 40 years, I have to say, I now think that we (women and girls) are safer in Scotland while it is still part of the UK. There is no party in Scotland that can be trusted with governing a newly independent country. Think Brexit under the Tories when you think independence under SNP.
Really? Then aa suggest that tgey haven't understood the reasons why Scotland needs her Independence.
my firm belief is in cases like this the laws are in consideration and some TRA deep pocket comes along and says, include trans folks in that and well float you some dough, cause one thing these uber privileged ruling caste mostly white males do seem to have PLENTY of is money to buy their way into all these laws and governing orgs. What seems to be happening across the world is really sad though, it looks like a trend of driving western democracies to the right just on basis of people not trusting the 'woke' anymore or people who bring that line of thinking to the table...in the US in particular though most voters are independent, we have no centrist representation.
Yes, me too, happy to help and, like you, I can't believe the Scots let that happen.
I don't understand why you are astonished that this took place in Scotland. It is us who have a law that states: A person is a member of a group defined by reference to transgender identity if the person is—
(a)a female-to-male transgender person,
(b)a male-to-female transgender person,
(c)a non-binary person,
(d)a person who cross-dresses,
https://www.legislation.gov.uk/asp/2021/14/section/11/enacted
Which means that drag "artists" have more rights under hate crime legislation than me... This Act would be funny if it was part of a TV show or film. Unfortunately, it has become our reality.
I know how easy it is to be arrested for a hate crime - it happened to my partner following a falling out with an Indian landlord who has a flat in our close. A month later the Police huckle my partner to a police station in the next county on a charge of racism - allegedly calling this Indian man "a f*****g Paki". I was there at the time of the alledged incident and it didn't happen. The one effing and blinding was the accuser...My partner was brought home with a warning to keep his mouth shut when about this individual. I now have to answer the door...
I'm not in Scotland either but it's like watching a tsunami coming. It's a masterclass on how to tear apart left wing political movements while destroying all progress.
Must be a slow day at the cop shop when cells are reserved for GC Twitter users. I mean really?
I'm having trouble finding it but wasn't there a recent article (possibly related to university level discourse) that women should not be harassed and intimidated by questioning gender identity ideology? House of Lords peer spoke out too? Was I dreaming? 😁
Obviously I don't know what the tweet was and if it was GC or not but the idea of thought-police was supposed to be an Orwellian warning, not a recommended framework for actual police conduct. Blimey.
Here you go... xx
'Women must be heard on transgender identity, says new equalities chief
New head of equalities watchdog says law has to protect the right to express a belief'
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/women-must-be-heard-on-transgender-identity-says-new-equalities-chief-kqttljxmd
Thanks for that. ❤️👍
It makes me think that it was probably milquetoast, if someone came to my door or called saying you are under investigation for transphobic tweets I'd literally have to say 'which one' on what platform...cause like most people here I tick all the boxes. Before I left twitter I was getting reported every other day by someone in Germany because they passed that statute. (Emily Goreyskanky lives in germany and has umpteen websites devoted to this so is probably behind the passage of that statuted and the organizing of these folks to make sure that everyone who possibly violates it gets reported...the police are not looking for these people, the TRA are literally scanning posts probably with search terms looking for people to report. I imagine the police are probably sick of it cause what an utter waste of police resources. Except of course the LGBT police folks, they probably love it.
Surely all actual criminal activity has been so effectively managed since the police have time to bully people like this... No? Then get back to genuine police work instead of wasting police resources on the enforcement of a non-scientific ideology that’s funded by Big Pharma.
A question I have is, how can we help Marion Millar?
Message from Joanne Cherry, who knows about the case and says she's keeping a close eye on it:
https://twitter.com/joannaccherry/status/1396124580004171781
She’s a woman and vulnerable Mother alone Fair game for “them”. They’ll be all in on a witch hunt.
I read that several times - it's so hard to think this is happening here. Well, ok, north of the border. We obviously need to let Marion know we are all here and ready to help. Don't know how to do that but I imagine someone somewhere will tell her. Bloody awful to even think this but it may be just the test case we need.
Seems very dubious police procedure to ring a citizen up with intimidating threats of arrest and incarceration without even specifying on what charge other than some fully banal empty accusation of homo and trans phobic tweets. The Harry Miller case demonstrated that these procedures usually are because of some busybody who has the luxury of being able to hide behind anonymity with nothing better to do than persecute anyone they discover on Twitter saying something they don't like, and usually completely non criminal. But just because it's been reported it has to be investigated and registered as non criminal hate episode. This police officer to me seems pretty incompetent or else she has an axe to grind.
Definitely. I advise she tells her solicitor as the copper is a proud LGBT advocate it's impossible for her to be impartial.
In fact, I bet if her brief does some digging on the dodgy copper(s) they'll have previous form for this carry-on.
Never trust a copper, as they say 😉
The worst thing about this case, in my view? Police are targetting a woman with TWO AUTISTIC SONS, who is fighting 'for the safety and dignity of women and girls and for my vulnerable twinnies.'
She must know from maternal knowledge, in ways that others don't yet fully grasp, the several ways in which autistic kids are especially vulnerable to the pied piper of gender BS. The reasons why a whopping 35-40% of under-18s funneled to Tavi GIDS are on the autism spectrum (David Bell).
Damn them. All of them who push and enforce this monstrous crap. Can't believe this has happened to her.
Daly should know better then, shouldn't she? Cotton ceiling and all that.
I would also like to help this woman if I could. Orwell's 1984 immediately springs to mind, I agree with you Z3r0. We have hope that the madness is being exposed, then reports such as this sending us back into the abyss.
This really sounds like a stalking issue to me. It seems very personal, very vindictive, especially the threats to her potentially losing custody of her children. Whether it's Daly herself or someone using her as a proxy. Very frightening. If there's a need for a legal costs crowdfunder I'll support it.
went to send this to brandon showalter at the christian post (he does all the writing on this stuff and found this, more evidence of pushback https://www.christianpost.com/news/france-bans-gender-neutral-wording-in-schools-warns-of-harms-to-french-language.html
comment from someone on that threas Jared Clark
1 day ago
I must add that this man is actually from En Marche, which is basically on the side of the woke movement, not too loudly, not too openly _ but they're a side that would never go to face the woke movement. Never before today because they know that there is an election within a year and that, apart from a crazy bunch of dangerous and stupid people, nobody, and I insist, nobody, whatever their religion or political stance, will accept that their family be subjected to such an outrageous, unnatural and destructive option _ gender-neutral nouns... That is forever No!!! Should he do that, the Gilets Jaunes are back in the streets straight away and En Marche's fate for 2022 is sealed! Nobody with a minimum of mental sanity will go cast a vote for En Marche, even in the first round if they happen to do that. I dare think this subject is strong enough in France that they will never try to force it on us even if we have the misfortune to see them reelected.